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HD2 Android ROM subforum

A very good morning to all admins and mods!
As new ROMs and builds of Android for HD2 keep popping up, I think there is a need for a subforum for Android ROMs within Android for HD2 section so as to not mix all general threads with the ROM threads.
thanks for reading!

Perhaps Android HD2 Q&A and HD2 Android Roms within the main hd2 section?
Sounds ok tbh - but then what about winmo roms (that often come with someone else's android) designed to solely run android versus android builds? where do you draw the line?

The winmo ROMs should stay in the winmo ROM thread logically IMHO.
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Yeah, but if you see some rom makers - like Energy and Chucky I think have posted 'android focused' Roms in the android section
so it has got a bit confusing tbh.

chvvkumar said:
A very good morning to all admins and mods!
As new ROMs and builds of Android for HD2 keep popping up, I think there is a need for a subforum for Android ROMs within Android for HD2 section so as to not mix all general threads with the ROM threads.
thanks for reading!
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Hopefully with the markers, the forum can stay organized. If there's a specific thread that needs to be moved/deleted/better organized, feel free to ping me or another moderator.

i posted this but i wanted it to be more visable
I would like to suggest not just a Q&A thread but a subsection dedicated to this.
The reason why is because to many random questions that have been answered before I being posted in the main section. I value all the members that we have but id like to see the forum's being used more productively.
I noticed in the Q&A thread a lot of peoples questions had been skipped over. I believe this is do to the number of post that get added to this thread at any one time.
I think that if we had a sub-section just for questions less flaming would go on. Also there wouldnt be a need for double post as these topics would have their own thread. I believe it would make the mods life easier to control all the unneed post without having to drop the ban hammer.
also there is a lot of information in the other threads that are about android. I think that needs to be highlighted so that the dev's dont have to deal with the I'm knew to android questions.
I have put a lot of thought into this and I would just like for us to get along.
mskip or joshkoss or dharvey would you please consider this Idea.
If anyone else supports this idea please say so. I did not give this post its own thread because I felt I would be adding to the problems of random uneeded threads. I also tried not to call anyone out so please dont be offended.

I like the idea. Let us see if anyone else like it too.
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idea
The logic in this idea is sound.
Can't argue
//sent from my froyo hd2

Disappointed on your decision to make a Sony Xperia Z forum before Asus PadFone 2

A dedicated Sony Xperia Z forum before Asus PadFone 2? I'm disappointed for the first time in XDA. There have been a LOT of requests for a separate forum for our lovely device that is already out in many parts of the world. And now you make a forum for a device that isn't even out yet!

Harboe said:
A dedicated Sony Xperia Z forum before Asus PadFone 2? I'm disappointed for the first time in XDA. There have been a LOT of requests for a separate forum for our lovely device that is already out in many parts of the world. And now you make a forum for a device that isn't even out yet!
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The PadFone is very expensive for what it is, and has failed to capture the interests of developers. The Xperia Z already has developer interest. We add devices based on development potential, and as of yet we've not seen anyone who is in a position to develop that is interested.

You seem to forget that this site is for developers, does not matter how many 'normal' users have a device its all down to the amount of developers that are interested in developing for a device

Pleaseeeeee create subforum
I got the phone from ebay US nd loving it without rooting nd custom rom
But trust me Asus rocks but why the moderators are being unfair for this super hero
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You guys can read reasons why its not created yet, here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2105207
Go through that thread.. you will understand..
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Guessing none of the mods are getting one and then there is no need to make a forum. From the request thread this have been much more sought for that the Sony. Ohh well.

Harboe said:
Guessing none of the mods are getting one and then there is no need to make a forum. From the request thread this have been much more sought for that the Sony. Ohh well.
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The PadFone series has had a recurring issue of not attracting developer attention, due to being more expensive than other similar products.
There has been no real developer interest that I'm aware of. That's why there's no forum.

and these?
http://www.modaco.com/forum/689-asus-padfone-2/
Please
Do not think it's that difficult to create a forum for padfone own 2, no industrial and other amounts, but there is interest!
And with your help, and creating a forum of their own, surely that would give him a push ...
And just to be specific, tablet + phone 700E. is cheaper to buy a phone and a tablet separately ...
thanks
regards

DjBastard said:
and these?
http://www.modaco.com/forum/689-asus-padfone-2/
Please
Do not think it's that difficult to create a forum for padfone own 2, no industrial and other amounts, but there is interest!
And with your help, and creating a forum of their own, surely that would give him a push ...
And just to be specific, tablet + phone 700E. is cheaper to buy a phone and a tablet separately ...
thanks
regards
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Tbh I got a nexus 10 and phone for much less than 700 EUR...
I looked at the looked forum, seems a dead device... There are 6 threads. But if we add a device, mods must be assigned, and various other things done. As such, we don't add nearly as many niche devices as users would like.
I am afraid you've not really showed interest - do you have, for example, an established CM maintainer who has got source built CM running? These are the kinds of things that show developer interest

Asus padfone 2 subforum please!
Asus padfone 2 subforum please!

+1 for sub forum

+ 100000 sub forum padfone 2
That would greatly help the devs will be encouraged to get roms, etc and assume it would help to sell more ....

+1 for adding subforum

Guys, you don't need to be asking for a forum for the Padfone 2 because;
1) This is the wrong thread to be requesting a forum be added for it. The relevant thread is stickied at the top of this very forum AND
2) One of the admins has already explained that a forum won't be added unless there's proof of strong development for this device.
If, as already suggested, there was an established CM maintainer who has got CM running on this device, then that would likely greatly increase your chances of having a forum created.
Also, don't say that the Padfone 2 will get more developers once it has a forum because that's a load of rubbish. The device is what intrigues/entices the developers. NOT whether there's is a specific sub-forum or not.
There is a Miscellaneous Android Development forum which is perfect for your needs as you can post any development for the Padfone over there.

In facebook there is a portuguese group for this device! Guess how many of the people there actually develop something?
In 1500 people... 0 roms, themes, or whatever! So yes, i am quiet happy that they opened the forum for XPeria Z

is not expensive if u think that u get a phone and a table i buy mine and belive me is fantastic!

UP!

Some of you just don't get it. You're not getting the forum for the same reason I'm not getting a forum for the Kyocera Rise (except I'm not demanding one like I have some natural right to it). Do any of you have any evidence of custom ROM's, development, etc. for the Padfone?

dibblebill said:
Some of you just don't get it. You're not getting the forum for the same reason I'm not getting a forum for the Kyocera Rise (except I'm not demanding one like I have some natural right to it). Do any of you have any evidence of custom ROM's, development, etc. for the Padfone?
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I think there are some evidences, take a look:
root: http://www.modaco.com/topic/360416-superboot-padfone-2-root-solution/
cwm: http://www.modaco.com/topic/360432-r1-customised-recovery-image-for-the-asus-padfone-2/
deodexed rom: http://www.modaco.com/topic/360444-deodexed-wwe-rom-for-the-padfone-2/
"custom rom": http://www.modaco.com/topic/360458-pre-mcr-wwe-rom-for-the-padfone-2/
Finally the guy who is making this come true is a XDA member since 2003, his nick is PaulOBrien
do you need some more?

rafael_mfr said:
Finally the guy who is making this come true is a XDA member since 2003, his nick is PaulOBrien
do you need some more?
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Yes. If it's just Paul you can easily use modaco as it's his forum.
Guys stop crying in here. XDA is a developers site.
If you really want to have a subforum then start developing for it.
That's the only way you'll get a dedicated forum. Constantly making +1 posts in here isn't helpful.
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A request to the admins

Now that the T-Mobile SGS3 has 2 different variants, could we possibly make a SGH-T999 forum aside from all the other variants? I believe it might help with clutter and potential user issues because of flashing SGS3 LTE modems on non-LTE or T999V, etc devices.
Just a request.
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re: seperate threads
mike.r.olson said:
Now that the T-Mobile SGS3 has 2 different variants, could we possibly make a SGH-T999 forum aside from all the other variants? I believe it might help with clutter and potential user issues because of flashing SGS3 LTE modems on non-LTE or T999V, etc devices.
Just a request.
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I think you forgot about the main problem here, besides all the variants you mentioned
there are the all those AOKP/AOSP/CM and ported roms which already have their own
thread "T-Mobile S III Original Android Develoment" where these roms above belong.
Now about 50% of the "Tmobile Galaxy S III Android Development" thread is full of the AOKP/AOSP/CM
roms instead of only having the Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean 4.11/4.1.2 based stock or custom roms in it.
This causes a lot of confusion for many people in these threads and sometimes it's difficult to even tell which is which
unless the OP makes it very clear in his opening post stating that "This is a AOKP Rom" or even better letting people
know that "This is NOT a Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean based rom" so no one would flash it by error.

I think everything is as it should be to be honest. The 3 models of the T999, are virtually identical, and ROMS and Recoveries and kernels are pretty much compatible across the board. The only things thay should be avoided are modems and full firmwares.
As far as the CM and AOKP type ROMs in the development area, many probably do belong there. As far as I am aware tge original development forum is for anything built from source or from scratch.
Im betting most of the roms in question were simply modified in the exact same sense that the TouchWiz roms have been.
In the end its up to the mods, but I think for now the current layout is fine, and splitting it up even more woukd only cause more work and more problems. Id bet that everyone would still wind up right here for everything they need.
Thats just how I see it anyway.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I think everything is as it should be to be honest. The 3 models of the T999, are virtually identical, and ROMS and Recoveries and kernels are pretty much compatible across the board. The only things thay should be avoided are modems and full firmwares.
As far as the CM and AOKP type ROMs in the development area, many probably do belong there. As far as I am aware tge original development forum is for anything built from source or from scratch.
Im betting most of the roms in question were simply modified in the exact same sense that the TouchWiz roms have been.
In the end its up to the mods, but I think for now the current layout is fine, and splitting it up even more woukd only cause more work and more problems. Id bet that everyone would still wind up right here for everything they need.
Thats just how I see it anyway.
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I forgot to add that the problem (in my personal opinion) which I described is not exclusive to this this Tmobile
Galaxy T999 S3 forum, but the same problem also exists in the new Tmobile Galaxy M919 S4 forum too.
I am surprised that none of the moderators caught on to it yet. I know from experience that the moderators
here are not too kind about anyone starting new threads in the wrong location or forum...

Dont take them as being unkind. They are simply doing their job and enforcing the rules.
I have worked with some of them, and trust me, they can be some if the most helpful and knowledgeable people on here. There are very good reasons behind each one getting selected to become a mod. (And being an a$$ to folks is not one of the reasons).
That said, I did want to conceed one point. Though I do believe most of the threads in development do beling there, it does get cluttered pretty easily. For those who have been around for a while its probably not so bad, but to someone new to the forum, I can see how it could become difficult to find something that fits specific needs. I could see splitting that into two or three sub forums as helpful (one for stock based and one or two for CM and AOKP types). It could keep things a little cleaner that way.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Dont take them as being unkind. They are simply doing their job and enforcing the rules.
I have worked with some of them, and trust me, they can be some if the most helpful and knowledgeable people on here. There are very good reasons behind each one getting selected to become a mod. (And being an a$$ to folks is not one of the reasons).
That said, I did want to conceed one point. Though I do believe most of the threads in development do beling there, it does get cluttered pretty easily. For those who have been around for a while its probably not so bad, but to someone new to the forum, I can see how it could become difficult to find something that fits specific needs. I could see splitting that into two or three sub forums as helpful (one for stock based and one or two for CM and AOKP types). It could keep things a little cleaner that way.
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I meant no disrespect to any of the moderators, but I've been caught making new threads where they didn't belong a couple times myself.
A long time ago when I first started here in xda I made a new thread in the Samsung AT&T Captivate forum and
I was promptly shown the exit door.
I hellraised/ported some rom successfully, tested it to be sure it worked properly then created a new thread in the same
forum as all the Samsung Touchwiz Captivate custom and stock roms were located and one of the moderators promptly
closed the thread as he should have.
At the time I did not think I done anything wrong and could not fully understand the reason why my thread was closed.
Now I see the reason and it's a very good reason, I just hope that one of these days soon there will be some kind
of segregation of the touchwiz custom roms and ported and aokp/aosp/cm roms in these xda forums and threads.
I really believe that about one third of all the issues, problems and errors a lot of new users here are having have
to do with flashing these cm/aokp/aosp roms not knowing that these roms don't come with all the features and the
bells and whistles which the touchwiz roms have, on top of that, issues which the the devs have yet to resolve.
Not to mention, especially here in the S3 Tmobile forum flashing those roms means no wifi calling at all.
Another example, have you ever seen or heard about an "error 7" which was not the result of someone
flashing one of those roms then trying to flash back to a Samsung Touchwiz rom?
New or fairly new users here when scrolling thru the Samsung touchwiz S3 custom roms thread are not aware of these things
and without really knowing what they are doing they end up flashing one of those roms thinking it's just another custom rom.
If those roms were in their own forums it would make everything here in xda go a lot smoother and easier not only for the new
users but for everyone else including the developers.

Misterjunky said:
I think you forgot about the main problem here, besides all the variants you mentioned
there are the all those AOKP/AOSP/CM and ported roms which already have their own
thread "T-Mobile S III Original Android Develoment" where these roms above belong.
Now about 50% of the "Tmobile Galaxy S III Android Development" thread is full of the AOKP/AOSP/CM
roms instead of only having the Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean 4.11/4.1.2 based stock or custom roms in it.
This causes a lot of confusion for many people in these threads and sometimes it's difficult to even tell which is which
unless the OP makes it very clear in his opening post stating that "This is a AOKP Rom" or even better letting people
know that "This is NOT a Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean based rom" so no one would flash it by error.
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Regular development is NOT only Touchwiz ROMs. Original Development is only for ROMs where the actual poster is the developer that wrote 1000's of lines of code or part of the team that did. ALL AOSP, CM, AOKP, MIUI, PA clones go in regular development.
And to the OP as long as the ROMs are compatible and do not cause hard bricks then there is no reason for separate sections.

kennyglass123 said:
Regular development is NOT only Touchwiz ROMs. Original Development is only for ROMs where the actual poster is the developer that wrote 1000's of lines of code or part of the team that did. ALL AOSP, CM, AOKP, MIUI, PA clones go in regular development.
And to the OP as long as the ROMs are compatible and do not cause hard bricks then there is no reason for separate sections.
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No wonder I started seeing a lot of roms that were posted in Original Android Development moved to Android development. It was kinda shock for me...
Only thing for people with the new T999L not flashing a T999 firmware, radio, odin. Is to make the threads known that is not for them.
And believe me we are going to see a lot of new threads people having problems. If they want to go back to odin stock or flashing the wrong firmware. Even if the threads are indicating that are not compatible they will still do it..... Half the people wont read and understand what their doing before doing it. They will only know that they have a Tmobile GS3 and that it.

gypsy214 said:
No wonder I started seeing a lot of roms that were posted in Original Android Development moved to Android development. It was kinda shock for me...
Only thing for people with the new T999L not flashing a T999 firmware, radio, odin. Is to make the threads known that is not for them.
And believe me we are going to see a lot of new threads people having problems. If they want to go back to odin stock or flashing the wrong firmware. Even if the threads are indicating that are not compatible they will still do it..... Half the people wont read and understand what their doing before doing it. They will only know that they have a Tmobile GS3 and that it.
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You mean like all the CDMA users flashing international ROMs in spite of the capital letter warning in both sticky sections? This is a developers' forum and not a support site. We cannot idiot-proof every section or the whole site will be convoluted with hundreds of subforums in which most will still not read. Most sites only have one forum per device. This site is very well organized compared to those. Add an L onto another subsection and most will still not read. We have many devices on XDA that work just like this, compatible ROMs and they have to flash correct modem and firmware.

kennyglass123 said:
You mean like all the CDMA users flashing international ROMs in spite of the capital letter warning in both sticky sections? This is a developers' forum and not a support site. We cannot idiot-proof every section or the whole site will be convoluted with hundreds of subforums in which most will still not read. Most sites only have one forum per device. This site is very well organized compared to those. Add an L onto another subsection and most will still not read. We have many devices on XDA that work just like this, compatible ROMs and they have to flash correct modem and firmware.
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Completely 100% agree. We already hold the hand of these people more then needed. This isn't a support site where people come to ask for help, its a dev forum but no one treats it that way anymore. The forum is laid out very very well. I've been on many android sites and get fed up by the layout quickly, and lack of care for users and such.
T-Mobile SGS III

DocHoliday77 said:
I think everything is as it should be to be honest. The 3 models of the T999, are virtually identical, and ROMS and Recoveries and kernels are pretty much compatible across the board. The only things thay should be avoided are modems and full firmwares.
As far as the CM and AOKP type ROMs in the development area, many probably do belong there. As far as I am aware tge original development forum is for anything built from source or from scratch.
Im betting most of the roms in question were simply modified in the exact same sense that the TouchWiz roms have been.
In the end its up to the mods, but I think for now the current layout is fine, and splitting it up even more woukd only cause more work and more problems. Id bet that everyone would still wind up right here for everything they need.
Thats just how I see it anyway.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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DocHoliday77 said:
Dont take them as being unkind. They are simply doing their job and enforcing the rules.
I have worked with some of them, and trust me, they can be some if the most helpful and knowledgeable people on here. There are very good reasons behind each one getting selected to become a mod. (And being an a$$ to folks is not one of the reasons).
That said, I did want to conceed one point. Though I do believe most of the threads in development do beling there, it does get cluttered pretty easily. For those who have been around for a while its probably not so bad, but to someone new to the forum, I can see how it could become difficult to find something that fits specific needs. I could see splitting that into two or three sub forums as helpful (one for stock based and one or two for CM and AOKP types). It could keep things a little cleaner that way.
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kennyglass123 said:
You mean like all the CDMA users flashing international ROMs in spite of the capital letter warning in both sticky sections? This is a developers' forum and not a support site. We cannot idiot-proof every section or the whole site will be convoluted with hundreds of subforums in which most will still not read. Most sites only have one forum per device. This site is very well organized compared to those. Add an L onto another subsection and most will still not read. We have many devices on XDA that work just like this, compatible ROMs and they have to flash correct modem and firmware.
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All of these :good:

has anyone setup a public cm repository yet?

I remember the Nook Color had a large community effort behind it here on XDA to get CM working on it before it was official... Sounds like several of us are working on the SM-T210/SM-T210R independently... Wondering if anyone has setup a git or anything that everyone can pitch in and get CM off the ground?
If not... Ill start one... though I cannot promise to throw large numbers of hours at it.

i am waiting for the cm10 and android 4.2.2
i need the new multiple user feature...
all my phones got the cm ....i sell the tab 2 and bought a tab 3 ....
cant belive that nobody is modding a cm mod for this one ;(
i ask for it in the cyanogenmod forum .... but no answer

combustiblemonkey said:
I remember the Nook Color had a large community effort behind it here on XDA to get CM working on it before it was official... Sounds like several of us are working on the SM-T210/SM-T210R independently... Wondering if anyone has setup a git or anything that everyone can pitch in and get CM off the ground?
If not... Ill start one... though I cannot promise to throw large numbers of hours at it.
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You must be kidding me look at the general forum and development forum you can clearly see that they are working hard on it to get it working
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safariking said:
You must be kidding me look at the general forum and development forum you can clearly see that they are working hard on it to get it working
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why in general ? .... this is the 7.0 developing forum

glotzkowski said:
why in general ? .... this is the 7.0 developing forum
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This belongs in a question thread, not a development thread. Any questions (or planning type) thread does not belong in the development section. Once something is actually developed, it can be moved to the development section.

gr8nole said:
This belongs in a question thread, not a development thread. Any questions (or planning type) thread does not belong in the development section. Once something is actually developed, it can be moved to the development section.
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You should look at the nook color development forum's history as referenced before making these sweeping statements.

Well, there IS a sticky thread reading "If you did't create it, it probably doesn't belong here" - we might argue about what create means but anyhow...
There are 3 threads on CM-Development:
This is the most active one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473201
These have already been there at the time of your post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495487
Did't you actually post in one of these already? Well it doesn't matter, there are a few repos, one for the kernel:
https://github.com/kumajaya/android_kernel_samsung_lt02
and modules:
https://github.com/kumajaya/android_kernel_samsung_lt02_modules
And for the device-specific files:
https://github.com/TeamRegular/android_device_samsung_lt02wifi
https://github.com/TeamRegular/android_vendor_samsung_lt02wifi
(those are not yet buildable but more complete)
and mine:
https://github.com/kaibutsu/android_device_samsung_lt02wifi
(which is buildable but far from complete)
I hope this helps. I'd like to use the TeamRegular-Repo, but I don't really understand what was done there, so I set up my own - to be synced with the other one at some point.
As far as the other models are concerned, I don't know about them but since their hardware is completely different, I don't think setting up a repo for all three makes sense...

whats the difference between G3 Android Development &G3 Original Android Development

whats the difference between G3 Android Development &G3 Original Android Development
both have roms i wonder whats the difference

from http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development
LG G3 Original Android Development
Welcome to the LG G3 original development forum. This forum is used to find or discuss original development on the LG G3 phone, including ROMs, kernels, rooting, mods and more.
This is an original development forum, which differs from the LG G3 Development forum in that discussion and items in this forum are for mostly original development on the LG G3, where the regular development forum is for modifications to stock tools where there has not been significant change. For more details on Original vs Regular Development forums, see this post on our Portal.
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and from http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development
LG G3 Android Development
Welcome to the LG G3 development forum. This forum is used to find or discuss development on the LG G3 phone, including ROMs, kernels, rooting, mods and more.
This is a development forum, which differs from the LG G3 Original Development forum in that discussion and items in this forum are for derivatives of stock ROMS, kernels or other materials, and the Original Development forum includes new work which is mostly original. For more details on Original vs Regular Development forums, see this post on our Portal.
Before posting in this section you must be a Senior Member, which essentially means that you have a few posts under your belt to show that you are familiar with XDA's rules. To be promoted to a Senior Member, participate on the forum answering others' questions or asking (legitimate) questions. We have this rule to keep the noise to a minimum - and ask you to give a little back in order to get help from our hard-working developers.
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