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Touc Pro 2 going to mobile version of web pages -why???

I love my TP2 (vodafone version) but if I go to any site that has a mobile version it redirects me to that even though I want to see the full version. It is driving me mad.
BBC.co.uk redirects to bbc.co.uk/mobile
telegraph.co.uk redirects to m.telegraph.co.uk
Are others having this problem. I seemed to stop it yesterday after I tried changing the user agent string to a mozilla one but then it has gone back to the original user agent now after I rebooted the phone.

Try using skyfire for your browsing needs it has never done me wrong just dont visit any sites that are too personal like bank accounts and the like, ive benn told its not secure. there should also be a setting that lets you identify your handset as a desktop computer using opera. but ive had that same issue with a reset where i have to go in and set it again. Also just got netfront 3.5 and I havent had too much time with it but its a unique experience .

It has something to do with the browser. Thd symbian OS browser is the same.

Thanks for the tips but Skyfire is OK but nowhere near the browsing an screen quality experience of Opera.
My Experia didnt do this so it is only a setting somewhere but not sure what?

Are you navigating to sites by opening the "Internet" tab on TF3D and entering the URL into the search box at the top of the screen? If you do that, Google picks it up and returns you mobile versions of all the sites. If I put "bbc.co.uk" in there, a page of results comes up, and the first one is "bbc.co.uk/mobile".
To navigate to a page properly, open the "Internet" tab as normal but then click on the great big "launch browser" button (with a picture of the earth). Then select the address box at the top of the screen and enter your URL here instead.
Is that any better?

Nope I am not doing that as I have disabled TF3D because I hate it, but thats another story.
No I am not referring to the search page results and following pages that google formats, I am talking about typing plane old pages into Opera after launching opera from the programs menu.

don't have TP2 yet, but in my FUze opera -> menu -> settings -> display -> uncheck mobile view. that should do it. I'm still getting the hang of opera after using skyfire in the Kaiser.

Yes that is already unchecked too.

I believe that the BBC checks what browser you are using and then directs you to the page it thinks you want to see.
At the bottom of their home page there is a preferences link. Tells you to bookmark the version you are happiest to see.
Guess the Telegraph does the same. That would explain why setting your browser to say it is mozilla gave you the usual BBC page.
No idea on a long term fix except to bookmark! They are getting too clever for their own good!!!

The bbc and others take you to the crappy mobile site even if you dont want it. It drives me mad.

Have you tried going to the URL opera:config in opera and changing the settings there. I don't know if it will overwrite on soft reset but under user prefs there is a Custom User-Agent setting.
You could look at changing that perhaps?
Might be something with spoof useragent ID?
I fould this:
1 = Opera (default user agent string of Opera)
2 = Mozilla
3 = Internet Explorer
4 = Mozilla, Opera not mentioned
5 = Internet Explorer, Opera not mentioned
but that is probably not the whole story!!!
I have changed the max number of open tabs on this page to 4 from 2. following advice from someone here. That worked fine

Yes I make the changes that fix the problem then when I soft reset they go back to the old settings. I reckon it is because it is a Vodafone rom because it always sets it back to a Vodafone user agent string.

Strange, I make the changes in the editor and nothing happens but then I located the opera.ini file that the editor should edit in the \windows\opera folder and I edited it with a text editor in windows then uploaded the edited file. Nothing changed until I rebooted and then it was fine.

I changed my user-agent string to a standard Mozilla one and this has fixed my problem for some sites including the one I wanted to fix the mostbut not the telegraph.co.uk one. They must use something else. Need to play a bit more.

Download Opera Beta 9.7
Works great for me. No re-direction to mobile sites what so ever. There is an option in the settings of beta version to turn mobile view on/off. By default it's OFF.

When I install 9.7 beta on my vodafone TP2 and run it, it hangs and I have to reboot the device.

Sorted!!!!!
Don't you hate it when something so simple doesn't work!
OK, Tested BBC and telegraph after a reset and they both work.
Not my solution entirely but it came from here on the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470001
Thank you gtrab.
The issue was that the config tool with opera was not saving the configuration properly so after a reset my opera:config seemed to be going back to an old version. One that I had hacked and broken!!!! ( I have no idea why that one saved and other ones didn't
Solution was to use total commander to get hold of the windows/opera9/opera.ini file and edit this on my computer before replacing back into the opera9 folder
I have gone back to the vodafone useragent
Custom User-Agent=Vodafone/1.0/HTC_Touch_Pro2/1.14.161.5 (50207) Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
Default Spoof UserAgent
Spoof UserAgent ID=1
And it seems the important one
UAProf URL Enabled=0
Now I am getting the web pages as I see them on the desktop. Horah!!!!

Oh awesome thankyou. I searched everywhere for an answer but you found it. I will go and give it a try.

Internet Explorer + Save Logins

Hi there,
is it true that it's simple a fake that the IE mobile on WP7 can save passwords/logins?
I can't achieve this with the browser, no way. When i google this feature i also found nothing. No people missing nor people confirm such a feature.
The reason why i think the IE mobile should do so i is explained in the link under enabling/disabling cookies : [sry but i'm not allowed to post links, would be nice if you google "Change privacy and other browser settings" and hit the first link]
Anybody who can explain me that?
thx
KG

I'd guess it's talking more about websites like forums that 'save passwords' with a checkbox like 'remember me' or 'keep me logged in'. I don't think it's going to prompt to save your passwords like Firefox does.

Well this seems sad but true. In this case the description is misleading at all. Anyway this should be a main feature of a mobile browser nowadays. And Opera Mobile/Mini which achieve this by now are WIP

I expect this soon as well.
Hopefully it will come in the January update package.

Moving to general.
~~Tito~~

I have a couple of forums added to my Favourites on my Omnia 7 . I am automatically logged in when I go to those particular sites .

ICS Browser

Has anyone managed to get the stock ICS browser working on 2.3?
tried ICS for a while, and loved the system but had to give it up for the lack of app support so far. Really missing the integrated approach of the browser, and how it synced bookmarks etc.
I know about ChromeMarks but not really the same. Done a search and found some topics of people trying on different devices but wondering if anybody got it on S2?
Failing that, what browser do you recommend as best for syncing between mobile and desktop?

I use Opera on my desktop, and Opera Mobile on my phone, and I use the build on "Opera Link" to sync bookmarks it works well.
But I suppose you use Google Chrome on your desktop so Opera Mobile isn't an option for you.

fair comment as I do use chrome. however may start looking at other options seen as four years in and google still not bothered with this feature.

IE9 = Rubbish?

Maybe its just me, but using this takes me back to the early 00's with WAP connections, Take the mobile twitter site, its a text based affair with no graphics unlike iOS and android who display it like there mobile apps, same with various websites I load, the look like they did on my old Nokia 7210 I had back in 2002 where as Safari on iOS and the Android web browser look basically the same as they would on a computer. What the reason for this?

The short version is, web developers (at least, the ones for those companies) suck. They're testing for expecific browsers, rather than testing for browser capabilities. IE9 Mobile is actually better than the browser on most of the older Android phones (a lot of phones still ship with 2.3 brand new, and many older ones never even *got* 2.3). However, because the user-agent string it sends doesn't identify itself as a WebKit browser, or some such piss-poor shortcut test, the site send incredibly dumbed-down web code as its fall-back to "I don't even know what this is" mode.
Note that many other sites *do* correctly identify the WP7 browser... just not all of them. Also, some will give different experiences depending on the site; for example, m.facebook.com has a very different UI from touch.facebook.com.
As for sites looking like they do in the desktop, if you want that, put the browser in Desktop mode (it's under Settings, which apparently people never bother to check...) That will cause the browser to send a user-agent string that closely approximates the one used by desktop IE. Websites which use that to identify the browser will therefore send the desktop site code.

The problem is many sites are not recognising it as a smart phone and are displaying a barebone mobile website designed for feature phones rather than smart phones.

It's the fault of the web site developers and not the browser itself. The iOS and android browsers are actually rubbish because of the latest webkit exploit and the fact that within them you still can't easily change the user agent settings.

GoodDayToDie said:
The short version is, web developers (at least, the ones for those companies) suck. They're testing for expecific browsers, rather than testing for browser capabilities. IE9 Mobile is actually better than the browser on most of the older Android phones (a lot of phones still ship with 2.3 brand new, and many older ones never even *got* 2.3). However, because the user-agent string it sends doesn't identify itself as a WebKit browser, or some such piss-poor shortcut test, the site send incredibly dumbed-down web code as its fall-back to "I don't even know what this is" mode.
Note that many other sites *do* correctly identify the WP7 browser... just not all of them. Also, some will give different experiences depending on the site; for example, m.facebook.com has a very different UI from touch.facebook.com.
As for sites looking like they do in the desktop, if you want that, put the browser in Desktop mode (it's under Settings, which apparently people never bother to check...) That will cause the browser to send a user-agent string that closely approximates the one used by desktop IE. Websites which use that to identify the browser will therefore send the desktop site code.
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Totally agree here too. I was speaking with Yelp about being able to view their mobile site through IE9 and WP and for their site to just recognize that it's IE9 and they said they have no plans to make changes to their website to accommodate WP.
This basically means, not until they see it worth their time/effort. Which is lame, cause, really, how hard is it to test for it and then display the mobile site if it's IE9? Why alienate customers, even if it's a small (yet growing) segment?

For me, its not working.
yesterday i had to visit Utorrent's remote control (remote.utorrent.com) to do some changes to my torrents, But unforunately i couldn't pass the "Touch to fill the proggress bar" antispam feature. "Move mouse" for PC.
I tried it with both desktop view and mobile view. no good.
I think developers need to pay some love for WP7 and make a good browser for it
I'd like to see firefox but they didn't make it. Yet ..
The problem is many sites are not recognising it as a smart phone and are displaying a barebone mobile website designed for feature phones rather than smart phones.
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Happened to me alot, Sometimes i get "Your browser is too old/unsupported" error and guess what? They refuse to show the website for me

Why don't we have an opera browser? I would definitely use that.

I find IE9 to be good. Yes, its not the best and its not comparable to others but it does a decent job.
The problem is with developers. Dev's try a lot to customize their apps for specific browsers and in turn make it difficult for non-popular browsers.
That is one reason HTML5 is being so looked upon. Everybody needs a common non-plugin solution to have a consistent web experience, which is already supported by IE9 of WP7

Have you guys checked out the HTML 5 Browser Speed Tests:
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/
There are some really good HTML 5 tests there that shows the speed of the IE9 browser running those HTML 5 pages. Sure, they are pages created by Microsoft but it still makes me wonder why the android browser and iPhone browser are really poor at loading up these pages.

slugger09 said:
Take the mobile twitter site, its a text based affair with no graphics unlike iOS and android who display it like there mobile apps
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Twitter have fixed it.

Tone_ said:
Twitter have fixed it.
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Yeah, it was temporary.
Took them long enough, some tech writers jumped right into the IE9/WP7 bashing, even though it was on Twitter end
That also pretty much sums up and ends this thread.

[Q] Search in a web browser like in desktop Chrome?

Anyone who uses Chrome on their PC will know what I mean when I say is there any Android browser that allows you to search different websites from the navigation bar? For instance in desktop Chrome if you want to search youtube for Lady Gaga you just type in "youtube.com Lady Gaga". Is there any Android web browser with that kind of functionality? Android Chrome doesn't seem to do it.
Thanks for any help.

liquidmetalrob said:
Anyone who uses Chrome on their PC will know what I mean when I say is there any Android browser that allows you to search different websites from the navigation bar? For instance in desktop Chrome if you want to search youtube for Lady Gaga you just type in "youtube.com Lady Gaga". Is there any Android web browser with that kind of functionality? Android Chrome doesn't seem to do it.
Thanks for any help.
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I use the stock browser and Chrome in that way with no problems. I think, there is something wrong with your settings.

I just reinstalled Chrome on my phone and typed in "youtube.com Lady Gaga" and it didn't work, it just searched on Google. Is there a setting you have to turn on?

As far as I know, the mobile version is fairly new and didn't see any options to enable it. Desktop chrome came with it already functional. The only mobile variation I found was using Firefox w/ the youtube add-on. Which sucks because I hate Firefox.

I love the dolphin browser you should try that one not sure what you are trying to do.
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liquidmetalrob said:
I just reinstalled Chrome on my phone and typed in "youtube.com Lady Gaga" and it didn't work, it just searched on Google. Is there a setting you have to turn on?
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In Chrome on desktop, you can / have to go to options / search settings and set up these shortcuts (if not already present). I've only just started with new Android device - I assume there is a similar place to set such on handheld. e.g. On my desktop, type 'w' 'p' '<space>' auto-changes the address line to 'search wikipedia' (or like wording). I assume you see the same on your desktop when you type 'youtube.com', as per your message.
If nothing else, you can do '"lady gaga" site:youtube.com", in the mean time.