I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
t3tr1s_ said:
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
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Knox isn't really for T-mobile to detect root/custom firmware but for Samsung warranty. A fair amount of people on here have stated that they still sent their phones in to Sammy for warranty and they still got their phones fixed. T-mobile really only look for cracked screens, water damage and that the phone powers on and boots up. Not to say you'll never have an issue but i would say it's not really that big of a deal to trip the Knox counter. Especially if you bought the insurance like Asurion. I don't think they even care if your rooted and ROM'd
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
t3tr1s_ said:
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
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On the old 4.3 firmware yes you can root with Root De La Vega and not trip the Knox counter but once you put ANY custom recovery it will trip the counter. Now on the OTA 4.4.2 that was released on Wednesday, the only 2 current ways to root (TWRP or Philz CWM) will trip the Knox counter no matter what. So until something comes out like an updated ROOT De La Vega, there's no way to even root without tripping the Knox counter.
Also from what i read, RDLV isn't being developed anymore so unless they decide to do something with it for the all the 4.4.2 releases hitting phones these days there may not be anything for a bit to root without tripping knox.
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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That is true for 4.3 but so far you can't on 4.4 from everything I have seen. Do you now of a way to not trip knox on 4.4?
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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Did I miss something? Is there a way to Root 4.4.2 without tripping Knox? I don't care I've tripped Knox the first night i had my N3 but I didn't think there was a way. Kningo and RDLV i thought borked the phones and caused bootloops.
My t-mobile store says that if you root your phone then it voids your warranty, so obviously they won't allow me to upgrade... So I know they check for it.. How is it you guys have stores where they don't seem to care?
Hi Friends,
I just got a T-Mobile Note 3, that came with Firmware: NB4 (Android 4.4.2).
Can anyone confirm that they were able to Root and then use Region Lock Away to SIM Unlock their phone to use on other Carriers? I would like to use mine on AT&T?
If not possible, what did you do? Can I downgrade via a Custom ROM and then use it? Does installing Custom Recoveries STILL trip the Knox counter? Is there any way around it?
Thank you so much for your quick help!
ProFragger said:
Hi Friends,
I just got a T-Mobile Note 3, that came with Firmware: NB4 (Android 4.4.2).
Can anyone confirm that they were able to Root and then use Region Lock Away to SIM Unlock their phone to use on other Carriers? I would like to use mine on AT&T?
If not possible, what did you do? Can I downgrade via a Custom ROM and then use it? Does installing Custom Recoveries STILL trip the Knox counter? Is there any way around it?
Thank you so much for your quick help!
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I was able to root with Chainfire's AutoRoot, and then I used his RegionLock Away app to unlock it as well, so yes, it does work. Just follow the instructions carefully.
The method I used tripped Knox, but I don't know if there may be another method now that doesn't trip it.
ProFragger said:
Hi Friends,
I just got a T-Mobile Note 3, that came with Firmware: NB4 (Android 4.4.2).
Can anyone confirm that they were able to Root and then use Region Lock Away to SIM Unlock their phone to use on other Carriers? I would like to use mine on AT&T?
If not possible, what did you do? Can I downgrade via a Custom ROM and then use it? Does installing Custom Recoveries STILL trip the Knox counter? Is there any way around it?
Thank you so much for your quick help!
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I don't know of any way to downgrade your firmware but towelroot came out the other day that should work with our phone that claims to not trip Knox. I believe it works on the NE6 (latest) firmware. As for Region Lock Away, check the website to see if it has compatibility issues with NE6.
Techngro said:
I was able to root with Chainfire's AutoRoot, and then I used his RegionLock Away app to unlock it as well, so yes, it does work. Just follow the instructions carefully.
The method I used tripped Knox, but I don't know if there may be another method now that doesn't trip it.
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phil.culler said:
I don't know of any way to downgrade your firmware but towelroot came out the other day that should work with our phone that claims to not trip Knox. I believe it works on the NE6 (latest) firmware. As for Region Lock Away, check the website to see if it has compatibility issues with NE6.
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Thank you for your responses guys, I *think* the Firmeware I have is "NB4"... does that sound like a valid release?
And Techngro, could you confirm that you have "NB4" or 4.4.2 and Region Lock Away still worked?
I have been on Sprint N3 for a while, with last ROM installed 6 months ago, just Stock Rooted, Odined. I assume there is still NO WAY to install custom ROMs and Recoveries without tripping Knox?
Thanks again guys!
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Thank you for your responses guys, I *think* the Firmeware I have is "NB4"... does that sound like a valid release?
And Techngro, could you confirm that you have "NB4" or 4.4.2 and Region Lock Away still worked?
I have been on Sprint N3 for a while, with last ROM installed 6 months ago, just Stock Rooted, Odined. I assume there is still NO WAY to install custom ROMs and Recoveries without tripping Knox?
Thanks again guys!
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when I was on nb4 I was unable to use region lock away and have it carrier unlock. things may have changed, but you will have to trip Knox if you want a root method for nb4. towelroot works on ne6 without tripping Knox, but again BBB unsure if region lock away has compatibility issues.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
noobtoob said:
when I was on nb4 I was unable to use region lock away and have it carrier unlock. things may have changed, but you will have to trip Knox if you want a root method for nb4. towelroot works on ne6 without tripping Knox, but again BBB unsure if region lock away has compatibility issues.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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Thanks for chiming in bud!
I guess, the most important thing to me is getting that SIM unlocked since I want to use it on the ATT network.
The Knox trip seems inevitable to me as well, since I really want to enjoy my Note 3 with all the ROMs and Themes out there, Sammy won't honor my warranty anyway, since I bought my phone from Craigslist...
So can anyone confirm or negate, if getting the SIM unlock via NB4 is possible? If so, how did they exactly do it?
If not, and I have Custom Recovery installed, can I just jump to ANY older ROM and basically get the Region Lock to work?
Thanks again!
Once on the 4.4 bootloader, you cannot roll back. You can definitely just use cf autoroot, and try out region lock away. It will trip Knox, but if inevitable, might as well take the plunge now and give it a try.
Or, upgrade firmware to ne6, use towel root, try region lock away. This way you keep Knox in tact and can report back.
But why do you need region away? Is the phone not paid off? If it is, just get unlock code from t-mobile. Mine only took 2 days.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
noobtoob said:
Once on the 4.4 bootloader, you cannot roll back. You can definitely just use cf autoroot, and try out region lock away. It will trip Knox, but if inevitable, might as well take the plunge now and give it a try.
Or, upgrade firmware to ne6, use towel root, try region lock away. This way you keep Knox in tact and can report back.
But why do you need region away? Is the phone not paid off? If it is, just get unlock code from t-mobile. Mine only took 2 days.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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Thanks for the very helpful advice there, bud.
Let me see if I understand these correctly:
1. No way to NOT trip Knox on NB4 and Root
2. To root without Knox I have to take a Firmware update to NE4 then do TowelRoot
3. Even if I have the Knox 0x0, there is NO WAY on the T-Mobile Note 3 to install and use Custom ROMs, Recoveries, Themes, and/or Kernels, correct? Because I thought ATT allowed that via Safe Strap?
I bought my Tmo N3 from Craigslist, probably never gonna have anyone honor a warranty on it - Sammy or Tmo. I am not a Tmo customer and wanna use the Tmo N3 on an ATT Prepaid MVNO, like Straight Talk.
That's why I need the Region Lock Away or SIM Unlock to work...
ProFragger said:
Thanks for the very helpful advice there, bud.
Let me see if I understand these correctly:
1. No way to NOT trip Knox on NB4 and Root
2. To root without Knox I have to take a Firmware update to NE4 then do TowelRoot
3. Even if I have the Knox 0x0, there is NO WAY on the T-Mobile Note 3 to install and use Custom ROMs, Recoveries, Themes, and/or Kernels, correct? Because I thought ATT allowed that via Safe Strap?
I bought my Tmo N3 from Craigslist, probably never gonna have anyone honor a warranty on it - Sammy or Tmo. I am not a Tmo customer and wanna use the Tmo N3 on an ATT Prepaid MVNO, like Straight Talk.
That's why I need the Region Lock Away or SIM Unlock to work...
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correct. if you came from jb to nb4 release, then you could've retained root through a work around method without tripping Knox.
but... since you are already on nb4 with Knox 0x0, there is no root method that doesn't trip it.
also correct that you can upgrade firmware through ne6 and use towel root without tripping Knox.
lastly, if your phone is paid off though, whether you have service or not through t mobile, they can provide you with the unlock code, because the phone is in fact paid for. unless it is not, then I can see the reason for region lock away.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
noobtoob said:
correct. if you came from jb to nb4 release, then you could've retained root through a work around method without tripping Knox.
but... since you are already on nb4 with Knox 0x0, there is no root method that doesn't trip it.
also correct that you can upgrade firmware through ne6 and use towel root without tripping Knox.
lastly, if your phone is paid off though, whether you have service or not through t mobile, they can provide you with the unlock code, because the phone is in fact paid for. unless it is not, then I can see the reason for region lock away.
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Again, thank you for the great response bud!
Another root method I heard *may* work without the Knox trip is the Kingo Root... any thoughts?
Can you (or anyone else reading this) confirm, that if I wanted to install Custom ROMs and Themes on this phone, there is NO WAY I can do that without tripping Knox?
Lastly, I think if you are not a Tmo customer in some capacity or another, they just will not give you the code, I think... So I need the Region Lock Away ...
ProFragger said:
Again, thank you for the great response bud!
Another root method I heard *may* work without the Knox trip is the Kingo Root... any thoughts?
Can you (or anyone else reading this) confirm, that if I wanted to install Custom ROMs and Themes on this phone, there is NO WAY I can do that without tripping Knox?
Lastly, I think if you are not a Tmo customer in some capacity or another, they just will not give you the code, I think... So I need the Region Lock Away ...
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Kingo root only works on 4.3. will not work on your current firmware.
Give T-Mobile a call first, you just may get it.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
noobtoob said:
Kingo root only works on 4.3. will not work on your current firmware.
Give T-Mobile a call first, you just may get it.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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Thanks much bud!
Has anyone else had success with Region Lock Away on NB4? If so, what was your Root Method?
Thanks!
ProFragger said:
Thanks much bud!
Has anyone else had success with Region Lock Away on NB4? If so, what was your Root Method?
Thanks!
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Sorry for the long response time. Yes, I believe I was on NB4 when I rooted and unlocked, but I don't remember for sure. I know I am currently on NB4 though.
noobtoob said:
Once on the 4.4 bootloader, you cannot roll back. You can definitely just use cf autoroot, and try out region lock away. It will trip Knox, but if inevitable, might as well take the plunge now and give it a try.
Or, upgrade firmware to ne6, use towel root, try region lock away. This way you keep Knox in tact and can report back.
But why do you need region away? Is the phone not paid off? If it is, just get unlock code from t-mobile. Mine only took 2 days.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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What exactly do you mean by getting an unlock code from tmobile?? For about the past month I've been in Arkansas and i swear all they have is [email protected] towers and Verizon. I'm basically using my edge network the whole time which doesn't suffice. Is this unlock code something that let's you pick up off the other towers or would I need to go another route?!
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Anonymous777 said:
What exactly do you mean by getting an unlock code from tmobile?? For about the past month I've been in Arkansas and i swear all they have is [email protected] towers and Verizon. I'm basically using my edge network the whole time which doesn't suffice. Is this unlock code something that let's you pick up off the other towers or would I need to go another route?!
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This whole thread is about SIM unlocking the T-Mobile note 3 to use on another carriers network. The T-mobile note 3 is able to pretty much use any GSM carriers sim card (i.e. AT&T, Straight Talk, AIO/Cricket Wireless...) if you receive your unlock code: either through t-mobile themselves (by having a paid off phone), by using the region lock away by @Chainfire (may not work on all firmwares), or purchasing an unlock code from one of the websites that offer sim card unlocking. Once unlocked you can get one of the pre-paid sims (like AIO or Straight talk) for $10 and use AT&T towers, or just completely switch carriers.
This is in no way shape or form speaking about using root on these phones with an unlocked bootloader, which seems to confuse most people. I know you didn't ask this, just wanted to put it out there for anyone else who may be confused.
Okay that makes sense, thanks man!
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Just picked up a new Note 3 and root is required to run an app that is critical to me.
I was just about to root and then call and cancel my insurance.. then I started noticing threads where people have claimed root on 4.4.2 without tripping the Knox flag.
This is a new phone, never before rooted. I do own Mobile Oden Pro and Triangle away and am willing to purchase other apps if needed.
Either way this phone will be rooted but I would like to keep my insurance warranty if possible.
Thanks
Edit.. custom recovery would be an added bonus not is not needed.
re: rooting
Rich3077 said:
Just picked up a new Note 3 and root is required to run an app that is critical to me.
I was just about to root and then call and cancel my insurance.. then I started noticing threads where people have claimed root on 4.4.2 without tripping the Knox flag.
This is a new phone, never before rooted. I do own Mobile Oden Pro and Triangle away and am willing to purchase other apps if needed.
Either way this phone will be rooted but I would like to keep my insurance warranty if possible.
Thanks
Edit.. custom recovery would be an added bonus not is not needed.
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If your baseband is NB4 or NE6 you can use "Towelroot" for rooting
otherwise if your baseband is NF1 or NF4 Towelroot will not work.
Towelroot will not trip knox.
If you flash any custom recovery knox will get triggered
but so far no one lost their warranty due to triggering knox.
Without custom recovery you will not be able to flash any
custom roms.
Good luck!
Rich3077 said:
Just picked up a new Note 3 and root is required to run an app that is critical to me.
I was just about to root and then call and cancel my insurance.. then I started noticing threads where people have claimed root on 4.4.2 without tripping the Knox flag.
This is a new phone, never before rooted. I do own Mobile Oden Pro and Triangle away and am willing to purchase other apps if needed.
Either way this phone will be rooted but I would like to keep my insurance warranty if possible.
Thanks
Edit.. custom recovery would be an added bonus not is not needed.
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You can use your insurance even with knox tripping. It only voids your samsung warranty, not your insurance. Just an fyi.
Sent from my leanKernel 3.4 powered stock 4.4.2 (NF4) SM-N900T
my friend tmobile insurance doesnt care if you have knox trip off
either way you pay one 175 for a new note or screen fix we so i dont matter if you damage the phone or the system
Thanks towelroot worked great with my NB4 baseband..and my needed app works great as well.
Rich3077 said:
Just picked up a new Note 3 and root is required to run an app that is critical to me.
I was just about to root and then call and cancel my insurance.. then I started noticing threads where people have claimed root on 4.4.2 without tripping the Knox flag.
This is a new phone, never before rooted. I do own Mobile Oden Pro and Triangle away and am willing to purchase other apps if needed.
Either way this phone will be rooted but I would like to keep my insurance warranty if possible.
Thanks
Edit.. custom recovery would be an added bonus not is not needed.
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Just use The EffortLess Way to root NF4 without tripping KNOX!
Sooo, I'm not entirely new to XDA, I know I should search for things and I have been, if you know a thread that may help, please post and point me in the right direction, thanks.
I just learned about KNOX (Haven't paid samsung much attention in the past year) and wanted to know; is there any way I can root, and install a custom rom/recovery without tripping KNOX?
Or is there a way for me to still use T-Mobile's insurance with a KNOX count of 0x1? I want to move to Android L as soon as it's fully released (or a little after for bugs to move away). Thanks.
devilsmarch said:
Sooo, I'm not entirely new to XDA, I know I should search for things and I have been, if you know a thread that may help, please post and point me in the right direction, thanks.
I just learned about KNOX (Haven't paid samsung much attention in the past year) and wanted to know; is there any way I can root, and install a custom rom/recovery without tripping KNOX?
Or is there a way for me to still use T-Mobile's insurance with a KNOX count of 0x1? I want to move to Android L as soon as it's fully released (or a little after for bugs to move away). Thanks.
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If you want to flash a custom ROM, there is no need to root at all. If you already have a KNOX bootloader (MK2, NB4, and NH7) flashing custom ROMs WILL trip the KNOX counter. No way to get around it. I think you can root MK2 and NB4 without tripping KNOX, but I'm not sure about NH7. Look up towelroot. If you decide the KNOX counter doesn't really matter, CF-Auto Root works for all versions flawlessly.
If, by some strange chance, you are still on the 4.2.2 (MDL or MDB) bootloader, you can pretty much do whatever you want because KNOX wasn't yet implemented on those bootloaders; Triangle Away is all you'd need to return the device to 100% official status. That app only resets the flash counter; it does nothing to the KNOX warranty flag. That can't be reset.
As far as using insurance with an 0x1 counter... chances are it will go through. The reports are mixed; some people haven't had a problem while others have gotten busted.
Good afternoon,
Hey you guys, just got my note 4 and looking to root. It is at the latest version nk2. Can I use the chainfire autoroot for this version.. It looked like the previous version was the one listed on their site.. Just figured I would check here first before just diving right in..
Thanks.
Yes
still trips knox ?
It def trips knox... So I would use the old version to root the nk2 then right... Just to clarify... Sorry just wanted to make sure..
sorry im a noob to the sgn4. is there a way to root without tripping knox ?
Nomad397 said:
sorry im a noob to the sgn4. is there a way to root without tripping knox ?
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No, there is not.. You want root, you trip KNOX. KNOX is designed to let IT and corporate admin techs know that your device is no longer secure and may have been compromised. That way they can decide to allow it on the corporate network or not.