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Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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The stock rom is probably what you want to stay on for stability. if you want really cool customization and tweaks go with a custom rom, but remember if you are on a custom rom you cant take OTA updates from google.
I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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You have to remember that the majority of people probably dont want a phone which they can customise in any which way that they want. Google need to cater for the masses and create an OS that is at least relatively simple.
Individuals on forums such as these however, feel differently and love the chance for customization. The developers working on after market ROMS create those options and customizations for people that really want them. And their ROMS are based on the source code provided by Google and their many employees - so nothing is lost in that sense.
This is what I think any way!
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Are they all "better"? No. Do they offer more features/customization? Yes. Do these features/customization often break something that already works? Yes.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Sometimes it's only one "dev" kanging code.
Regardless, we have some VERY talented devs here. And it's not like they are creating android from scratch, they are using the code that Google has open sourced, so all of the custom roms are essentially STOCK + unique features not part of AOSP. This also makes them not as stable as stock android, pick your poison
That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
its mostly about the tweaks that Google didn't put in .. all roms are the same to me since they all base off 4.0.x unless someone builds a sense or Touchwiz rom.
The only thing that makes roms different is the feature list and kernel
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--GNex-- said:
That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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It's all very easy once you do it a few times. Customization is awesome. Like the full screen mod getting rid of the softkeys so anything that your doing (game, videos, etc) that keeps the softkeys there, will now be full screen without the softkeys. Just little things like that plus much more than make custom roms better than stock.
RogerPodacter said:
I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Many people want different things, that's why there are custom roms
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So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Of course there are way more people on stock than rom flashers. People like my mom got the phone to use it, not to flash ROMs.
When people said 'it's a developer phone', it doesn't mean the phone is not suitable for daily use or only developers know how to use it. On the contrary, it's a phone that showcases how the latest OS SHOULD look and feel like. It serves as a reference point to how developers should design their apps.
Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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The thing with all product discussion forums is, people will only post/seeking help if they ran into problems. (Will you go to a Samsung forum and start a thread with 'my TV/camera is working as intended?' ) So these forums are always filled with error reports/complaints. Sometimes it's hard to see if it's really error by design or just the unlucky few with defective devices.
XDA makes it even more complicated because this is a modding community. Half of the complaints are probably just human errors - bad flash, wrong radio, incompatible apps the list goes on...
Long answer short, you DON'T have to mod your phone to reap all its benefits. You are not missing out things if you don't want to customize it.
I completly agree, thats why I also started this thread. I was talking with some people about it. Its nice to customize, but do i need these small things with the possibility to get issues
Are you on Stock ?
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Brother man its all about what you want and love. I could nit would not run stock. I have way more fun with custom roms. But to each there own. I must say, I would never have my mother run a custom from. First I would be her tech support, next its not what she needs. But you keep having fun with what you need / do.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
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I was actually talking about bugs in stock. Its much quicker to fix them in custom roms since the fix will be rolled out in a few days, but we'd be waiting months to get the same fix from google in an update.
Sure new bugs from custom roms may appear too from the new additions. But its still all the stock code base anyway...
ROMs are usually the result of tweaking, prodding, removal to enhance the phone's ability to function. Some things aren't necessary, and some things can be made to cater to a specific user. Obviously, google cannot cater to individual needs, but that's why so many ROMs exist, you can found out what you like and stick to it!
That's why I switched to android from my iPhone 4s. I love messing with my phone, and android is the platform that encourages this
As most users on XDA, I've got a rooted device that I want to use a custom ROM on, and there are so many choices it makes choosing a ROM very difficult.
And it is all a matter of preference, depending what included features (included Gapps, default launcher, notification options, etc) or what base it is built from (CM10, AOSP, AOKP, etc) everyone has their own preference.
I created this public spreadsheet, but I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs. It has really taken off since I originally created it.
http://goo.gl/U8a0E
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android.
Thanks everyone who makes updates to the sheet. I would also like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable ROMs that meet our individual needs.
And, as the Google Doc can be viewed by ANYONE, must get permission on google account to edit.
My personal "Must Haves":
- T9 Dialer (avoid having to install separate dialer app)
- Customizable Notification drop down for Additional Toggles (this has replaced the need for Widgetsoid2 since I can have the Flashlight and Wifi AP here.)
- Reboot and Reboot to Recovery in Power Menu (Mostly Reboot as a minimum as I sometimes forget to turn it back on if I Poweroff)
- Battery Percentage in Status Bar (The logo itself is no where near specific enough for my needs, and I now prefer the circle style)
NOVEMBER 24, 2012 UPDATE: Personally I've switched over to Paranoid Android 2.99.3 (beta 3), it doesn't have my personal must haves yet, but I'm sure it will, currently I'd rather have 4.2 and lose a few features, than be running 4.1.2, it is one of the first roms with customizations to be released on AOSP 4.2, so until it is 3.x it could have some bugs.
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I've tried a few ROMs on my Unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus and am still trying to find the ROM that has all the features I want. And is the most stable with those features.
I just created this public spreadsheet, mostly for my own use so it is very basic at the moment. But I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Like I said, it is very empty right now and is completely open to others who want to make changes to it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android, and I haven't even included it on the Google Spreadsheet yet as I still haven't tried it.
I would like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable and fast versions of what CM10 can't do yet, isn't stable enough to use yet, or may never do in some cases.
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This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
HwyXingFrog said:
Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
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Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
So, after all of that, and the spreadsheet getting updated by users pretty nicely, it looks like there is a functional enough CM10 (from the +Google page) v1.8 that is stable enough for me to start using as a daily driver for at least a few days.
I'll be using Gapps-b as I need Picasa sync to be working.
Damn! That's great work, well done! Keeping this up to date will be the hardest part but if you manage it you will help the Galaxy Nexus community a lot! I'll try to help. Keep up the good work.
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I agree, I didn't put the battery life on there, all roms except the Nightlies like to advertise "Good" battery life anyway.
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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You could leave the public version as is, but add a "revised" version (editable only by you) that weeds out any egregious and obvious inaccuracies.
Oops misread.
I started one of these back in the day for the droid Eris. You should be able to leave it public, you can always see and revert changes.
Can we get a column for cdma vs GSM?
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Thanks for sharing man! Im using xenonhd ad my first custom ROM band its fine
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So, overall, I definitely accomplished what I wanted to do with the Google Doc, everyone has been awesome with their updates to it.
But, for myself, the Doc is basically useless as soon as I found CM10 v1.8 on the +Google page, which is basically a very stable nightly (although it isn't), it is exactly what I wanted....
It's very stable, gives me all the features I have as my "Bare Minimum"
- Toggles in notification screen
- Battery Percentage in Status bar
- Reboot options in shutdown menu
I ended up in the exact same state after trying numerous custom roms on my HTC Desire and Motorola Atrix previously, always just ending up with CyanogenMod7.
And I happened to just fall onto the +Google post with v1.8 while compiling the Google Doc. Was about to download 1.3 then 1.8 was posted and I'm LOVING it.
And as long as I stick to CM10, I shouldn't have to wipe my data, I'm tired of doing all my Titanium Restores (as I don't have the paid version).
Again, thanks everyone for updating the Google Doc, and as I've made it public, anyone should be able to update it and keep it updated for other people out there that want to use custom roms. And if anyone ever needs to revert anything that really breaks it, all you have to do is log in with your google account.
I really hope it helps some people find the ROM they want to use for their specific needs. And it would be nice to see more of these for different devices, especially for devices not officially supported by CyanogenMod. I may have to get one started for my Motorola Atrix 4G.
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
Great work. Should always be maintained and help users what they really want.
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Bayint Naung said:
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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Speaking of that, does anyone know what document viewer the stock Nexus uses, and if there is an Play App, or APK I can install on CM10 that is the same.
I have Documents to Go, but I'm wondering what the Stock nexus one is.
I've added this to the spreadsheet as CM10 not having one, so if we know which app the Stock has I can put that on the spreadsheet.
Thanks.
i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
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Xda is just an outlet where people choose to post roms.
To check on the latest status of roms, you need to open the threads and read the OP. You also need to spend at least ten minutes reading each thread, That will tell you how stable each rom is and what kind of results people are having.
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Actually that would be a great idea. It would help out the entire community.
Right now the way things exist, you pretty much have to read through an entire rom thread to determine the benefits/bugs of any given rom.
You could, for example, start a list for any particular rom.. read the entire thread, then make your own thread detailing current known bugs and post it in the same forum. Then the OP of the rom thread could post your link in the first post making it easy for everyone to find.
That would serve two purposes - you would learn the information you're seeking and also become an instantly appreciated contributor to the site.
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I'm surprised the rom developers dont already have a system in place, though. The scope of the projects are presumably gargantuan collaborative works. i kind of assumed that they must have some sort of a bug tracking thing that they use between them. That bug tracking thing is what i've been venturing to find. There are a ton of user-specific bugs that I have no problem digging through the forums and figuring out myself, but what i'd love to see with roms is a list of "this is what we know isnt working yet. dont talk to us about this. we are working on it." or at the very least, "when you flash this rom, if you would like to help, run this command and upload the output HERE so we can fix some bugs we know about".
I'm coming from a linux world and it is very disconcerting to me to flash a rom, encounter a bug/error, and not be able to look at any sort of an error message or do anything to fix the problem except reboot/wipe/reflash and hope for the best. thats a very windows-y mentality to the whole thing, and i feel like if we're running linux on the phones we should be able to get a bit more involved in fixing our own problems a bit better too.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, i'd like to help and i have no clue where to even begin. with archlinux theres a beginners guide but with these roms its more of a "watch this youtube video and follow this tutorial but god help you if anyone thinks you are complaining about what people are doing for you for FREE".
EDIT: I found CM10's issue tracker, but there isnt anything specific for the GS3 there. The flicker and picasa sync issues arent even mentioned. Obviously Paranoid Android and Kang will have the same bugs as CM10, but im assuming that they'll have their own bugs introduced after they add in their own features and such.
ok.
ingenious247 said:
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
i have a question
ingenious247 said:
Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
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i've downloaded the CWM pro and the TB pro. i was wondering what exact ROMS i can use. There is also the difficulty of understanding which rom is exactly which. Is there a way to view the Change log? i'm a super noob. i'm really sorry.
Changelogs won't do you much good.
I recommend flashing everything through CWM (make sure you have 6.0.1.2 Touch - in my signature if not). I wouldn't use ROM Manager at all. Having automated tools is great, but learning how to do it yourself is even better. Plus, if you break something, knowning what you are doing makes it easier to fix. Automated tools hurt more than they help.
As for roms, your options pretty much are as follows:
CyanogenMod: AOSP, the closest thing we have to the stock Google firmware.
AOKP: Pretty much CyanogenMod with some extra options. Nothing extraordinary about those extra options, just some nice things like center clock, swagger toggles, and unicorns.
MIUI: iPhone look for Android.
ParanoidAndroid: Scalable - for tablets (imo).
Then you have the neverending amount of customized stock (TouchWiz) roms.
They are all under constant development. If you want "stable", stay on your stock firmware. All of the roms listed above are stable enough to use as a daily driver. They all have threads in the two Dev forums. But if you don't know what to pick, use CyanogenMod.
I still think ROM Manager is a great tool, it's how I started years ago and I still managed to learn what I needed to over time flashing manually
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I recently upgraded from 4.1.2 (12/2/12 release) to 4.2.1 (1/26/13 release). My phone is buggy as hell and I am getting a lot of error messages because I did not do a full wipe. I am going to do a full wipe but cannot see any reason to stick with 4.2.1... Fast charging is gone, I dont really like the way the toggles are laid out, less lockscreen target icons, etc... there is nothing on this update that really makes me want to keep it.
Can anyone give their opinion on 4.2.1 vs 4.1.2? I enjoyed the 4.1.2 build and found it to be very stable (thats why I kept it so long) but if 4.2.1 is faster, more stable, better battery life etc I would prolly consider trying it after the wipe.
So what are your experiences between these two? why should I go with one over the other? Does anyone have tasks latest build of 4.1.2 (+gapps) or have a suggestion for another rom (I wouldn't be apposed to trying something new!)
Important:
battery life
stability
performance
Functionality
lockscreen targets (lol)
Fast charge option was definitely nice to have as well!
Not important:
Unicorn bootscreen animation
Thanks in advance for everyone's input! :highfive:
stability and functionality are key things.
for instance, bluetooth streaming is finnicky unless you mess with it on CM10.1, seemingly fine on CM10.
bleeding edge generally means that you're leveraging stability and functionality for new features.
i'm still on 4.1.2 (ParanoidKangDroid) and enjoying the experience here. if you're not experiencing any issues, i would say stick it out until you're ready to move forward and the bugs have been identified and ironed out by early adopters.
Anybody else? I would really appreciate some input
My phone is buggy as hell and I need to flash something whether it be 2.1 or 1.2.
Does anyone have the last 4.1.2 build by task? Will I get flamed for asking on the development thread?
Sorry for all of the questions I just need some answers/direction
the green man said:
Anybody else? I would really appreciate some input
My phone is buggy as hell and I need to flash something whether it be 2.1 or 1.2.
Does anyone have the last 4.1.2 build by task? Will I get flamed for asking on the development thread?
Sorry for all of the questions I just need some answers/direction
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Don't bother asking in his development thread. If you need it, check on goo.
Here, I found it for you.
http://goo.im/devs/task650/d2att_AOKP
the green man said:
Anybody else? I would really appreciate some input
My phone is buggy as hell and I need to flash something whether it be 2.1 or 1.2.
Does anyone have the last 4.1.2 build by task? Will I get flamed for asking on the development thread?
Sorry for all of the questions I just need some answers/direction
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If you want my 4.1.2 release then all you need to do is follow the rules and search for it. Its been answered over a hundred times and wouldn't be hard to find. Also. Your device is buggy only because you caused that. If you refuse to follow the installation instructions then you should expect a lot of issues. Those instructions are there for good reason. Also. There is a fast charge option. You just didn't search on what you need to get it. You will come across a ton of useful information by doing so. Promise.
Currently I keep switching between Task's 4.2 and 4.1. I like a lot of things about 4.2 like chronos, the toggles, notification layout etc.. but I also switch to 4.1 a lot because I need a working BT. To be honest, Task's latest 4.1 is so freakibg smooth and stable that unless you really need 4.2, I don't see a reason to upgrade asap.
With that said, other than the BT issues, 4.2 is also perfect so it is only a matter of days/weeks before I am switching full time to 4.2.
Rattles said:
Currently I keep switching between Task's 4.2 and 4.1. I like a lot of things about 4.2 like chronos, the toggles, notification layout etc.. but I also switch to 4.1 a lot because I need a working BT. To be honest, Task's latest 4.1 is so freakibg smooth and stable that unless you really need 4.2, I don't see a reason to upgrade asap.
With that said, other than the BT issues, 4.2 is also perfect so it is only a matter of days/weeks before I am switching full time to 4.2.
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Yea it ultimately comes down to performance and functionality, I have to use the phone for work so I think reverting to 4.1.2 is the best option. Thanks for the input!
EDIT: Two other questions... Is 10/12/12 the most up to date gaps for the build? Is the latest kt kernel optimized for this rom?
the green man said:
Yea it ultimately comes down to performance and functionality, I have to use the phone for work so I think reverting to 4.1.2 is the best option. Thanks for the input!
EDIT: Two other questions... Is 10/12/12 the most up to date gaps for the build? Is the latest kt kernel optimized for this rom?
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12/19 are the latest Gapps I believe. Also, there's a stock kernel for a reason. Ktoon's kernel may or may not work better on your phone, it depends on both your phone and your settings/way you use your phone.
BWolf56 said:
12/19 are the latest Gapps I believe. Also, there's a stock kernel for a reason. Ktoon's kernel may or may not work better on your phone, it depends on both your phone and your settings/way you use your phone.
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Yeah I am going to test the stock kernel for now and may switch to Ktoon's later down the road. I seem to get better battery life and performance from it. Could you tell me where to find this Gapps version for tasks 4.1.2 aokp? I looked on the link provided a couple posts above and also searched the forum but have had no luck (also tried google).
the green man said:
Yeah I am going to test the stock kernel for now and may switch to Ktoon's later down the road. I seem to get better battery life and performance from it. Could you tell me where to find this Gapps version for tasks aokp? I looked on the link provided a couple posts above and also searched the forum but have had no luck (also tried google).
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In his OP.
You can also get them from goomanager (in the market).
Thank you guys, I find this thread informative to me. Thanks to OP as well!! :highfive:
Well I am back to 4.1, the only thing I miss from 4.2 is the chronus clock. Otherwise I am happy with my decision after seeing some of the bugs that are out there! I will end up switching eventually but I need something rock solid with little to no countability issues. Thanks everyone for all of the replies!
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Yeah I am going to test the stock kernel for now and may switch to Ktoon's later down the road. I seem to get better battery life and performance from it. Could you tell me where to find this Gapps version for tasks 4.1.2 aokp? I looked on the link provided a couple posts above and also searched the forum but have had no luck (also tried google).
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4.1.2 gapps: http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
Hello! This is my first post and i want to know if anyone is making an AOSP rom for this device? It appears that this device is really laggy and stutters here and there. The Geodev rom is based on AOSP i think but don't know how the rom is doing right now and i can't comment on it because this is only my first post. MAY I KNOW WHO HERE IS TRYING TO GET AOSP FOR OUR DEVICE BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY OF MAKING THIS SMOOTH. Thanks everyone! Cheers!
Sarmiento_Luise said:
Hello! This is my first post and i want to know if anyone is making an AOSP rom for this device? It appears that this device is really laggy and stutters here and there. The Geodev rom is based on AOSP i think but don't know how the rom is doing right now and i can't comment on it because this is only my first post. MAY I KNOW WHO HERE IS TRYING TO GET AOSP FOR OUR DEVICE BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY OF MAKING THIS SMOOTH. Thanks everyone! Cheers!
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As of now, Geodev is the only one in development. If you're trying to get your post count up, go to the XDA General section and post in the new members forum or the off topic lounge.
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imho that geodev thing sounds shady at best.
If you would decide to port a custom rom to a new device, would you really start by porting KitKat if the device
currently only runs jellybean? Wouldn't it be easier to use the stock kernel for now to get cm10 running
and then wait paitiently until htc releases the kernel src to make it a full unofficial cm10 build.
Instead this sounds more like taking the existing source of a hopefully hardware compatible build
and bending it until it brea.. ehm works.
I may be biased, but if you plan to make any kind of release you usually don't go and announce it to the world.
This only encourages the rather impatient endusers to come up with many variations of the same old:
"i need my rls now!", "I am entitled to a release because I found this thread","GIMME RLS!!!11oneeleven"
posts that will just annoy the crap out of every dev I've ever met. Also there is absolutely no point in asking for
beta testers before you even have a working build ready.
Combine that with the recent e-begging post and draw your own conclusions.
DroidTwe4kz said:
[...] I can't continue developing until someone gift me new computer (or motherboard only). [...]
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In any case, for the time being it might be a good idea to check if there are some services you could deactivate
in order to get a little bit more speed out of your phone. I personally have no problems with lags, but maybe
it's because I don't expect the phone to run every app ever made at the same time since it has only 512MB RAM.