This may be purely placebo... But I swear that after I rooted and got rid of a bunch of bloat last night that I am seeing more lag than ever. Seems sometimes it take longer for the tablet to wake. Ill press something and there will be a delay etc... Is there a possibility that something I did is causing a service to use more resources?
Apps I froze with ROM Toolbox:
ANT HAL
ANT Radio ANT+ Plugins
Blurb Checkout
Businessweek
Chaton
com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation
com.sec.know.eventsmanager
Flipboard
Help
KLMS Agent
Knox 1.0
Knox 1.0
Knox Notification Manager
Knox Store
My Magazine
My Magazine - here and now
NYTimes
Phone
Polaris office
S Translator
Samsung Link
Samsung Push service
Samsung WatchOn
Screensaver
Story Album
Syscope
TripAdvisor
World Clock
Yahoo Finance
Is there anything else I should remove that would help?
Also, I can't use Sumsung Hub Video's, the existing videos I have won't play.
The only other Mods I have done are Multi-window manager, Wanam Xposed, Pen Window mamanger and trying out GMD Gestures.
Watching the Task Manager, it seems like I am using way more memeory than I ever used to. Before I would harldy go over 2GB now I easily see 2.3-2.5GB.
Please let me know if you have suggestions.
Thanks!
alias747 said:
This may be purely placebo... But I swear that after I rooted and got rid of a bunch of bloat last night that I am seeing more lag than ever. Seems sometimes it take longer for the tablet to wake. Ill press something and there will be a delay etc... Is there a possibility that something I did is causing a service to use more resources?
Apps I froze with ROM Toolbox:
ANT HAL
ANT Radio ANT+ Plugins
Blurb Checkout
Businessweek
Chaton
com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation
com.sec.know.eventsmanager
Flipboard
Help
KLMS Agent
Knox 1.0
Knox 1.0
Knox Notification Manager
Knox Store
My Magazine
My Magazine - here and now
NYTimes
Phone
Polaris office
S Translator
Samsung Link
Samsung Push service
Samsung WatchOn
Screensaver
Story Album
Syscope
TripAdvisor
World Clock
Yahoo Finance
Is there anything else I should remove that would help?
Also, I can't use Sumsung Hub Video's, the existing videos I have won't play.
The only other Mods I have done are Multi-window manager, Wanam Xposed, Pen Window mamanger and trying out GMD Gestures.
Watching the Task Manager, it seems like I am using way more memeory than I ever used to. Before I would harldy go over 2GB now I easily see 2.3-2.5GB.
Please let me know if you have suggestions.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You may want to get betterbatterystats to see what services are keeping the tab running. Also, use Greenify to control the apps you don't want to autostart or keep running after you have gone back to homescreen. I haven't rooted mine yet, but thats what I use on my other tablets and phones. You could also try clearing cache and dalvik cache, and maybe doing fix permissions. But I again not sure if it will work out.
I get no lag whatsoever and im not rooted as I don't Like what Samsung has done with the knox security, the thing that has made the biggest difference for me is replacing the TW launcher with Nova Prime, I don't think the bloat ware makes such a big difference to this as it has such a large amount of ram, it's pretty hard to slow it down now
If I could now sort out the massive battery drain I'd be extremely happy with my purchase
Sent from my SM-P600 using xda app-developers app
Every time I have a lag, it's either bad file or bad app. I use System Panel in these cases to identify the problem. Last week my tablet was slow and hot all the time. For some reason Beautiful Widgets was using 100% of CPU for hours. Another example is a bad file (pdf or epub), search index was running non - stop until I found the problem.
ddavtian said:
Every time I have a lag, it's either bad file or bad app. I use System Panel in these cases to identify the problem. Last week my tablet was slow and hot all the time. For some reason Beautiful Widgets was using 100% of CPU for hours. Another example is a bad file (pdf or epub), search index was running non - stop until I found the problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK cool I will check out System Panel. I did notice that I think GMD Gestures was causing some slowness. As much as I liked the program I uninstalled it. There was some weird bugs with it and a lot of times it would interfere with other things with the note, like disabling the palm rejection for writing and stuff.
If you are rooted, is there a good way to disable the indexing services?
I'm not sure, but i see smooth after root and remove bloat app. Did you set live wallpaper? Some live wall not optimizer make lag when use.
I had beautiful widgets pro installed while rooted and the device headed up like crazy and lagged. Could be app related
Sent from my SM-P600 using xda app-developers app
chanhny said:
I'm not sure, but i see smooth after root and remove bloat app. Did you set live wallpaper? Some live wall not optimizer make lag when use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No live wallpaper, I hate them, resource HOG.
Maybe I am just being overly picky with how I think the tablet should run. I just think that at this point in the game of Android development and the crazy hardware specs that are being crammed into these devices now, that everything should run super smooth with no stutters or hitches. It's just disappointing to me that I have to hack and mod my device this much just to make it even just marginally better... Why can't this stuff be better optimized??!!!!
alias747 said:
If you are rooted, is there a good way to disable the indexing services?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can disable it by going to /system/app, and renaming, or deleting "ContentSearch.apk". But, if you do, your tablet will no longer index files that you add or change. For example, if you add a video, movie, or music, to the internal or external storage, the tablet won't know anything has changed, and won't be able to find the added file.
I would advise against disabling the index service. A better option would be to find the file that's causing your issue. This may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483944
Sent from my SM-N900P
Related
hi guys..
just found today that if we go in Apps - All Apps - App Info, for some of the Samsung app, we see two buttons at the top, Force Close and Disable.
As I said, the Disable button shows up only on certain Samsung apps, for ex All Share Play has this, but not All Share Cast, etc.
My question now is..what does this disable function do? is it the same as freezing apps from TiBu? why is this only on selective apps?
Also, I disabled the following apps: Allshare Play, ChatOn, Exchange Services, Game Hub, Learning Hub, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store! I know i dont use any of these ever, but can this in any way affect the normal functioning of the fone? I dont think any of the above are android critical apps..but jst want an opinion.
Thanks
sudeepm said:
hi guys..
just found today that if we go in Apps - All Apps - App Info, for some of the Samsung app, we see two buttons at the top, Force Close and Disable.
As I said, the Disable button shows up only on certain Samsung apps, for ex All Share Play has this, but not All Share Cast, etc.
My question now is..what does this disable function do? is it the same as freezing apps from TiBu? why is this only on selective apps?
Also, I disabled the following apps: Allshare Play, ChatOn, Exchange Services, Game Hub, Learning Hub, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store! I know i dont use any of these ever, but can this in any way affect the normal functioning of the fone? I dont think any of the above are android critical apps..but jst want an opinion.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I fyou are are rooted you can delete them permanently with ROMCleaner from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937955.
Make a nandroid backup first in case you might want them back. This is the best way to get rid of bloatware
I've done more or less the same stuff. No problems so far. If something goes wrong, remember what you have disabled. A mail function not working? Enable a disabled mail-related app and try again... Nothing worse than that happened when I disabled lots of stuff on my last phone (SGS2). No issues so far on Note 2.
Disabled apps is similar to saying "not loaded apps" or "inaccessible apps". I never dealt with freezing apps, but after a short look it seems like it can be like this: I think freezing apps is to basically turn of their normal behavior (they can not give notifications or anything like that during frozen status). It can still run but not perform it's normal functions.
The ones that can not be disabled can often be more critical to various other apps on the phone. If the phone is rooted there are usually more possibilities though.
Some built-in apps that has been upgraded may need to have the upgrade uninstalled before being able to disable it.
I have currently these disabled: Allshare Play, Bubbles, ChatOn, Deep sea, Dual clock, Exchange Services, Face Unlock, Favorite Contacts, Gallery (using QuickPic), Game Hub, Learning Hub, Luminus dots, Messaging (using Go SMS), Phase Beam, Photo Wall, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store, Ripple Wall, S Suggest, S Voice, TalkBack, Windy Weather, Yahoo! (both).
Not all of those actually does any good to disable really... I just get them away from my sight So far no issues.
gee2012 said:
I fyou are are rooted you can delete them permanently with ROMCleaner from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937955.
Make a nandroid backup first in case you might want them back. This is the best way to get rid of bloatware
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep..aware of that. jst that i havent yet decided to go ahead and root this beast!
swejuggalo said:
I've done more or less the same stuff. No problems so far. If something goes wrong, remember what you have disabled. A mail function not working? Enable a disabled mail-related app and try again... Nothing worse than that happened when I disabled lots of stuff on my last phone (SGS2). No issues so far on Note 2.
Disabled apps is similar to saying "not loaded apps" or "inaccessible apps". I never dealt with freezing apps, but after a short look it seems like it can be like this: I think freezing apps is to basically turn of their normal behavior (they can not give notifications or anything like that during frozen status). It can still run but not perform it's normal functions.
The ones that can not be disabled can often be more critical to various other apps on the phone. If the phone is rooted there are usually more possibilities though.
Some built-in apps that has been upgraded may need to have the upgrade uninstalled before being able to disable it.
I have currently these disabled: Allshare Play, Bubbles, ChatOn, Deep sea, Dual clock, Exchange Services, Face Unlock, Favorite Contacts, Gallery (using QuickPic), Game Hub, Learning Hub, Luminus dots, Messaging (using Go SMS), Phase Beam, Photo Wall, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store, Ripple Wall, S Suggest, S Voice, TalkBack, Windy Weather, Yahoo! (both).
Not all of those actually does any good to disable really... I just get them away from my sight So far no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
great..thx for the details..didnt know this disable thing existed in older devices too.
Also, I noticed while disabling most of them, the "Force Close" button was also enabled, but again only for some. Does that somehow suggest that these apps stayed in the memory all/most of the time. Maybe some affect on battery by disabling them..! :highfive:
Sorry to bring up an older thread, but I couldn't find any other relevant thread about bloatware on the Note 2 [maybe my search keywords weren't correct ] But I was curious to what other apps or services are safe for us to disable/remove (without rooting the device)? My note 2 is from AT&T and from what I read and see, it appears to have a lot of bloatware. If anyone could direct me to a list of apps thats safe to remove, I'd be very appreciative. Thanks in advance!
There's a disable "Crap" button in settings.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
There's a dedicated thread for apps safe to remove:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910885
When testing what is / isn't safe to remove - rather than deleting something just rename it in Root Explorer... eg if I wanted to delete Flipboard.apk I would change it to Flipboard.apk.bak first. Then if it screws the phone up you just change the name back, reboot and it will be back to normal. If there are no issues, then go back and fully delete it.
By now we've learned that TouchWiz is pretty damn bloated. I did some work on my T-Mobile Note II and managed to clean up a lot of bloat. That said, I'm going to cut straight to the chase... The following list includes the apps that I have either uninstalled with ROM Cleaner (available from the Note 2 International Forum) and Frozen with Titanium Backup. So far I have not had any weird bugs or loss of functionality. Obviously you need to be rooted for this. However, your mileage may vary and I am not responsible at all. I have tested this for me and it works. I have about 1200MB to 1400MB of free RAM at boot!
Uninstalled with ROMcleaner:
Adobe Reader PDF reader
AllShare Cast
Nearby devices
AllShare Play
AllShare Service
Chaton
ChocoEUKor font
DSM
DownloadThemAll
Samsung fota updates
Upgarde installer
Game Hub
Market Feedback Agent
Samsung Help Hub
Helv Neue S font
Idea Idea Sketch
Learning HUB
Music Hub
MusicFX
MobilePrint
MobileTrackerTwo
Official Top 40
MyFiles
Google Plus
PRUI
Readers Hub Store
Reader Hub App
Reader Hub Bridge
RoseEUKor Font
Samsung APPS
Samsung UNA3
HTML Viewer
Samsing Note
Samsung Snote syncadapter
S Suggest
Software Update
talkback
Trim
Video Hub
WebManual
Frozen with Titanium:
Amazon
Bonus Apps
CapabilityManagerService
Enterprise SysScope
Enterprise VPN Services
EnterprisePermissions
Favorite Apps
Favorite Contacts
Play Books
Play Movies
Group Cast
Kies Air
Kies Via Wifi
Media Hub
MobileLife
Need For speed
Remote Controls
Samsung Account
Samsung Backup Provider
Browser Synadapter
Cloud Data Relay
Contact SyncAdapter
SmemoSyncadapter
Samsung Syncadapters
Simple Alarm Clock
Software Update
Swype
T-mo my account
T-Mo name ID
Mobile TV
TMserverapp
Visual Voicemail
VPN Client
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
UltraCfg
Testservice
SysScope
Smartcardservice
Service Mode
Self Test mode
Screen Recorder
Samsung SEtup wizard
Samsung Push Service
Samsung Backup
Preconfig
PhoneUtil
NFS Service
SNS
Popupuireciever
I know there's some typos in there, but you get the idea.
Now, if you go to your battery usage, you will see that Android OS is eating a lot of battery, even when idle... Lots of wakelocks, etc. Turns out it's mediaserver eating up all of the battery and throwing partial wakelocks...
Here's the fix:
From an ADB shell or a terminal on the phone... YOU MUST BE ROOTED:
Code:
su
pm enable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
My battery life at idle has SUBSTANTIALLY improved. My free RAM has improved as well.
I'm not going to lie... The debloating doesn't make things seem that much faster, and this phone is so damn fast that it really doesn't matter that much. But that pm enable fix is slick and helps a lot as far as battery while idling.
Please don't hesitate to share your findings or improvements to this. I welcome any constructive input.
Thanks! I've been meaning to research on which apps were safe to freeze/uninstall.
Thanks
when you do the mediaserver fix through the terminal is it supposed to say "new state:enabled" ?
bapurado said:
when you do the mediaserver fix through the terminal is it supposed to say "new state:enabled" ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It didn't do that for me, but check and see if MediaServer is running as a SERVICE, then you'll know if it worked
Once I put in the commands it said enable is that correct? And is this to minimize the media server's percentage in the battery screen shot?
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
acrown said:
Once I put in the commands it said enable is that correct? And is this to minimize the media server's percentage in the battery screen shot?
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you'd feel more comfortable there's a free app in the Play Store called Media Rescan Root that will do the same thing...
The command disables mediaserver from constantly scanning storage for new media; it's out of control and likely a bug specific to our device/series of devices.
Ran the code via Rom ToolBox terminal.
I'm a heavy user, the S2 barely lasted my work day. This bad boy was getting to 30 something % by 5pm, after being off the charger around 6:30am. It's 4pm and I'm at 48% - 10 hours. That's moderate use.
I think this lil script did it's job. I'm pretty freakin' impressed.
If you'd feel more comfortable there's a free app in the Play Store called Media Rescan Root that will do the same thing...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly i dont think this is a big an issue on my note 2 as it was for my GS1 which took a long time to media scan on boot. I don't think I've seen my note 2 media scan on boot and the boot time is really amazing as it is stock.
@OP
Thanks for sharing. You're a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but we all use our phones differently. No criticisms below, just discussion points.
Many of the apps you've removed, like Amazon, are ones I use frequently, and honestly, I find it difficult to believe it uses any meaningful amount of juice if you're not actually shopping with it. I certainly could be wrong, but on all the phones I've ever used, apps like that have never made an appearance of concern in battery history. YMMV.
Also, I think it's interesting that you chose to "freeze" apps that can be downloaded from the Market (Amazon, Play Books, Play Movies). Freezing stops them from running, but they're still sitting there eating up storage space (albeit very little). I'd just totally uninstall them and reinstall if needed.
I heard that some of the bloatware from Tmobile actually reinstalls itself when frozen/removed. Any experience with that?
distortedloop said:
@OP
Thanks for sharing. You're a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but we all use our phones differently. No criticisms below, just discussion points.
Many of the apps you've removed, like Amazon, are ones I use frequently, and honestly, I find it difficult to believe it uses any meaningful amount of juice if you're not actually shopping with it. I certainly could be wrong, but on all the phones I've ever used, apps like that have never made an appearance of concern in battery history. YMMV.
Also, I think it's interesting that you chose to "freeze" apps that can be downloaded from the Market (Amazon, Play Books, Play Movies). Freezing stops them from running, but they're still sitting there eating up storage space (albeit very little). I'd just totally uninstall them and reinstall if needed.
I heard that some of the bloatware from Tmobile actually reinstalls itself when frozen/removed. Any experience with that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The my T-Mobile program keeps popping back up, but that's the only one. I don't mind, to be honest. And I agree, this is too agressive. It's not like this big list is getting in the way, and I honestly doubt he's seeing much, if any, improvement. But, you are right, YMMV.
mdt73 said:
The my T-Mobile program keeps popping back up, but that's the only one. I don't mind, to be honest. And I agree, this is too agressive. It's not like this big list is getting in the way, and I honestly doubt he's seeing much, if any, improvement. But, you are right, YMMV.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, the My T-Mobile app is one I would want to keep; nice to have a quick easy access to my account information. If carriers are going to add bloat, that's the kind of stuff they should be adding.
distortedloop said:
Actually, the My T-Mobile app is one I would want to keep; nice to have a quick easy access to my account information. If carriers are going to add bloat, that's the kind of stuff they should be adding.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, true, I am not on T-Mobile, so I don't use it. The program is tiny anyways, so it's no big deal. Now, if it were Need For Speed... I would do battle! LoL!
distortedloop said:
@OP
Thanks for sharing. You're a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but we all use our phones differently. No criticisms below, just discussion points.
Many of the apps you've removed, like Amazon, are ones I use frequently, and honestly, I find it difficult to believe it uses any meaningful amount of juice if you're not actually shopping with it. I certainly could be wrong, but on all the phones I've ever used, apps like that have never made an appearance of concern in battery history. YMMV.
Also, I think it's interesting that you chose to "freeze" apps that can be downloaded from the Market (Amazon, Play Books, Play Movies). Freezing stops them from running, but they're still sitting there eating up storage space (albeit very little). I'd just totally uninstall them and reinstall if needed.
I heard that some of the bloatware from Tmobile actually reinstalls itself when frozen/removed. Any experience with that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All I was doing was listing what you can do, and what I did. I froze Play Books and Movies because they're always running and eating up RAM, even when you kill them. They are always running if they are installed. And in reference to your question about T-Mobile stuff reinstalling itself, I've never had that in my experience if I've actually completely removed something. I don't see technically how that would be possible.
I froze Amazon because f**k them, and f**k T-Mobile for installing Amazon as a system app, meaning you can't remove it without root. I spent $700 on a device, it's absurd that I should not have control over what apps I can and can't have on my device... Don't you think?
I was only sharing what I did and what I found is safe, eg. this didn't bork my phone
Thanks for your input
brashmadcap said:
All I was doing was listing what you can do, and what I did. I froze Play Books and Movies because they're always running and eating up RAM, even when you kill them. They are always running if they are installed. And in reference to your question about T-Mobile stuff reinstalling itself, I've never had that in my experience if I've actually completely removed something. I don't see technically how that would be possible.
I froze Amazon because f**k them, and f**k T-Mobile for installing Amazon as a system app, meaning you can't remove it without root. I spent $700 on a device, it's absurd that I should not have control over what apps I can and can't have on my device... Don't you think?
I was only sharing what I did and what I found is safe, eg. this didn't bork my phone
Thanks for your input
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Winky faces aside, I think you took my post far too personally. You invited discussion, and I offered up some. No offense was intended.
You also apparently completely missed my point re: "freezing" vs. removing. You clearly have root access, as indicated by some of the tips you give which you specifically say "YOU MUST BE ROOTED", so I'm confused by what you mean when you say "you can't remove it without root." You can't remove any system apps, which most of which you removed are, without root, so that's irrelevant. My confusion was simply why, considering you must have root to do some of what you did" you chose to freeze som market-downloadable apps rather than simply uninstall/remove them?
My logic tree when I decide whether to remove or freeze is simple. Freeze stuff I might want/need back that's not easily obtainable/installable, just to be safe. Remove stuff I know is safe and that I can easily obtain/reinstall through the Play store or other places.
I'm not interested in an argument, so I think I'll just move along from here and find a discussion a bit less defensive.
Peace.
1 there are many more that can go
2 can you sort them alphabetically
3 thanx fellow minimalist
distortedloop said:
Winky faces aside, I think you took my post far too personally. You invited discussion, and I offered up some. No offense was intended.
You also apparently completely missed my point re: "freezing" vs. removing. You clearly have root access, as indicated by some of the tips you give which you specifically say "YOU MUST BE ROOTED", so I'm confused by what you mean when you say "you can't remove it without root." You can't remove any system apps, which most of which you removed are, without root, so that's irrelevant. My confusion was simply why, considering you must have root to do some of what you did" you chose to freeze som market-downloadable apps rather than simply uninstall/remove them?
My logic tree when I decide whether to remove or freeze is simple. Freeze stuff I might want/need back that's not easily obtainable/installable, just to be safe. Remove stuff I know is safe and that I can easily obtain/reinstall through the Play store or other places.
I'm not interested in an argument, so I think I'll just move along from here and find a discussion a bit less defensive.
Peace.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thinly veiled sarcasm aside, I didn't mean to be abrasive. Just sharing what I did. I was more referring to the absurdity of the carriers forcing apps on you, then forcing you to void your warranty in order to remove them. That was not an assault on you. I know you know that you have to be rooted, you've been here for a while.
fit333 said:
1 there are many more that can go
2 can you sort them alphabetically
3 thanx fellow minimalist
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Cool! Which other ones did you remove?
2. No
3. You're welcome
This works so good on my at&t i317. Thanks for the post.I'm seeing a lot better battery as well
Sent from The Samsung Nerd Man cave
The media scanner eating battery was a big issue on my GT-i9300 GS3. It's not been too big of a deal on my GN2 so far.
I was just curious, should the code "disable" the scanner on boot and not enable?
Here's what was posted:
Code:
su
pm enable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
Should it be (?):
Code:
su
pm disable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
I just want to know because I think I'm going to disable the media scanner on boot to try it out on my GN2.
Thanks for the info!
What is known safe to freeze
as listed in titanium backup, I've been able to freeze the following bloat without any issue:
Allshare cast
Allshare play
Allshare service
AT&T * (everything starting with "AT&T" can be frozen)
ChatON
DeviceHelp
Flipboard
Kies* (everything starting with "Kies" can be frozen)
media hub
music hub
my AT&T
news daemon
s suggest
s voice
samsung backup provider
samsung browser syncadapter
samsung calendar syncadapter
samsung cloud data relay
samsung contact syncadapter
samsung snote syncadapter
samsung syncadapters
SNS
stock daemon
swype (keyboard still works fine without swype support)
sysscope
tethering provision
vpn client
weather daemon
weather widget
weather widget main
yahoo finance
yahoo news
YP Mobile
There are many other things that can be frozen - this (so far) is just a list of what I'm currently freezing
AT&T users: The "mobile hotspot" icon that shows up in your app drawer doesn't have it's own app that you can freeze. It appears to be something in the settings.apk (and you probably don't want to freeze that.)
FM Radio
There isn't one. Based on my research, the hardware either doesn't exist or isn't physically connected. No luck with spiritFM either. This matches what international users have found with the n7105 (international LTE note2)
The "mobile hotspot" icon that shows up in your app drawer doesn't have it's own app that you can freeze. It appears to be something in the settings.apk (and you probably don't want to freeze that.)
I'm trying to figure out how to deodex a JB firmware... once I have that, I'll be uploading doing a few minor mods (and uploading them, of course.)
Another reason to go international if you don't have lte in your area.
Jesus AT$T, got bloat?
SGH-I717 Galaxy Note | AOSP/CM/AOKP <3 via Tapatalk II
added note about FM radio, updated post title to reflect that I'm just dumping random "faq" type information in it.
Great info! However personally, I'd wait with freezing apps since android operating systems have a wakelock specifically designated for deleted/frozen apps. Why or what for? No clue, but it's there. I'll wait until I can actually remove them completely. Either way this phone's battery and performance is awesome out of the box, even with bloatware :thumbup:
Sent from my SGH-I317M using xda premium
AlonB. said:
Great info! However personally, I'd wait with freezing apps since android operating systems have a wakelock specifically designated for deleted/frozen apps. Why or what for? No clue, but it's there. I'll wait until I can actually remove them completely.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No.. your off base there. deleted_wakelock has nothing whatsoever to do with a frozen app. A wakelock is actually a kernel structure. When an app cleans up after itself, the time it had in wakelock is added to the deleted_wakelocks counter.
Xstop said:
Another reason to go international if you don't have lte in your area.
Jesus AT$T, got bloat?
SGH-I717 Galaxy Note | AOSP/CM/AOKP <3 via Tapatalk II
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
takes 5 min to disable it all forever.. not gonna get up in arms this time
This is still a pretty good excel source for the novice although it is for stock.
Collected way back for SGS2
frewys said:
This is still a pretty good excel source for the novice although it is for stock.
Collected way back for SGS2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for this! I was looking to ask the question in q&a. Would this be pretty close to SGN2?
sent using gNote II.
Thanks for the great info! I'll definitely be doing this soon after I get mine. I'm curious, how much of a difference in memory consumption/speed have you noticed after disabling all this bloat?
skochw said:
Thanks for the great info! I'll definitely be doing this soon after I get mine. I'm curious, how much of a difference in memory consumption/speed have you noticed after disabling all this bloat?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well... I really can't answer that, as I didn't seriously use the phone until after I disabled that stuff.
garyd9 said:
Well... I really can't answer that, as I didn't seriously use the phone until after I disabled that stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah. well maybe you could run some benchmarks or something, and we could compare with stock scores?
skochw said:
Ah. well maybe you could run some benchmarks or something, and we could compare with stock scores?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. It wouldn't show up in benchmarks, as benchmarks tend to grab exclusive use of the device (meaning the other stuff wouldn't matter.) As well, I don't believe in benchmarks - they are too easily compensated for.
2. By freezing unused services, they'll never start which means the phone doesn't hold them in memory (freeing memory), doesn't use processor cycles to load/reload/execute them which will result in a lower battery usage (depending on the specific service) and allow the phone to "feel" faster in some cases.
3. Finally, freezing stuff that you don't use cleans up the app drawer. Why would anyone want an icon (even if they don't use it) for AT&T's navigation software when google gives us the same thing for free? (Freezing it also prevents someone else from using it if you loan them your phone.)
Of course, the idea of this thread isn't to discuss the merits of freezing bloat (or the merits of urinating when the need arises.) The idea is to let people know what is "safe" to freeze (and give other device information.)
As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
ohRonaldo said:
As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
(I hope you take this with the humor intended...)
No, there is simply no possible way for you to ask that without sounding like a newbie. However, it's okay... we were all newbies at one time.
"app drawer" - in iOS, every app you install leaves an icon on your homescreen (or one of the homescreens.) That isn't the case with android. In android, YOU decide what your homescreen looks like - you can have app icons, widgets, or just leave them blank. There is usually an icon on the homescreen that lets you access your "app drawer" which contains all the phone apps. On the note2 with default configuration, thats the checkerboard looking icon on the lower right of the homescreen.
freezing - using an application such as "titanium backup", you can "freeze" an app. This is a way to basically completely disable and hide an application without physically uninstalling it. The only effective difference between a frozen app and one that's actually uninstalled is that the frozen app still can be "defrosted" (which restores it to normal.) freezing apps requires that your phone is rooted (which is a topic for another thread...)
ohRonaldo said:
As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The " app drawer" is the location on android that has your application launch icons (and widges). If you delete the app icon on the desktop you can gain access to the installed app here. You can grab a copy from the tray to deposit on other desktop pages.
The term "freezing" is a method to make installed apps dormant and thus not "call home" or use CPU cycles / memory resources that drain power or use data. These are usually done in preparation in determining what apps to un-install. Un-installing bundled applications may leave you no way to re-install them later, short of re-flashing to stock ROM.
Most folks will attempt to freeze apps to remove "bloatware". Later the storage can be reclaimed by un-installing the apps. By freezing, you can avoid "burning a bridge" you may find you need later.
Dynamite answers, thanks. I'm familiar with that app drawer, just didn't know its name, and the requirement of root for a freezing app will be juuust a bit down the road until I can understand the new OS environment.
PS I am a software engineer from way back, part of the generation responsible for "Are you sure?" and "General Error. Continue?" prompts, so.... I deserve every bit of jazz anyone wants to heap on me.
ohRonaldo said:
PS I am a software engineer from way back, part of the generation responsible for "Are you sure?" and "General Error. Continue?" prompts, so.... I deserve every bit of jazz anyone wants to heap on me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm... The response, "Hit Any Key to continue..." comes to mind. I'm still looking for the Any Key and have never found it. :laugh:
the builtin application manager can disable some programs... i'm wondering if this is the same as freezing
ShadowVlican said:
the builtin application manager can disable some programs... i'm wondering if this is the same as freezing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes
Since this is my first android smartphone, I'm trying to figure out what background apps I can disable to keep my Note 2 running to the best of its abilities.
I've already disabled S-Voice and turned off its double-tap home button feature. I've disabled most of the obvious AT&T-branded apps as well.
However some apps are running on my device that I'm unsure whether or not they can be disabled:
Media Hub
AllShare Service
Samsung Push Service
S Suggest
AvrcpServiceSamsung
Media
MAPServiceSamsung
GlanceViewMk
SecPhone
Also, it looks like Maps is running at times when I haven't even launched the app. Should I just not worry about that?
UCLAKoolman said:
Since this is my first android smartphone, I'm trying to figure out what background apps I can disable to keep my Note 2 running to the best of its abilities.
I've already disabled S-Voice and turned off its double-tap home button feature. I've disabled most of the obvious AT&T-branded apps as well.
However some apps are running on my device that I'm unsure whether or not they can be disabled:
Media Hub
AllShare Service
Samsung Push Service
S Suggest
AvrcpServiceSamsung
Media
MAPServiceSamsung
GlanceViewMk
SecPhone
Also, it looks like Maps is running at times when I haven't even launched the app. Should I just not worry about that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Note 2 is a beast and can seemingly handle anything I've thrown at it. I don't think S-Voice runs in the background as an active process so there's no reason to disable that unless you just won't ever use it. Most of the other apps you listed are system apps and can't be removed/disabled without rooting the phone first. If you want superior performance and battery life, you should consider rooting and flashing the latest CleanROM. The developer of CleanROM removed all of the unnecessary bloat that AT&T and Samsung installed and did some tweaks in the background to improve efficiency. You can check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986893
As far as maps running when you haven't launched it, it should do that if you have location services turned on for the phone and/or other apps.
A phone even with killer looks and amazing features still needs a descent battery backup to support it all. In past we've seen that a few tricks here and there always tend to increase battery life. Usually that includes disabling a few apps or features. This thread is for specifically targeting such tips & tricks and sharing it all so that S6 Edge+ can live upto its expectations..
1. To start with, lets get to the list of bloatwares that can be safely disabled.
If any of you own the AT&T version, here's a list you can disable:-
AT&T Apps:-
AT&T FamilyMap
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Live
AT&T Locker
AT&T Mail
AT&T Mobile Locate
AT&T Mobile Transfer
AT&T Navigator
AT&T Ready2Go
AT&T Smart Wi-Fi
Drive Mode
Caller Name ID
Mobile TV
Plenti
Smart Limits
Yp (Yellow Pages)
Other Apps:-
S Voice
Amazon (I prefer the playstore version for frequent updates)
Amazon Kindle
Device Help
Live Weather (Yahoo)
Lookout
Theme Store
Visual Voicemail
2. Refrain from using any free application that has embedded advertisements. They tend to run threads in background to load adds and thus degrade the app performance and used data (so naturally consume more power too). Either buy add-free version or find an alternate app for same purpose and without adds.
3. Disable notifications from social media/news apps like Facebook, Twitter, Tapatalk, etc. Although, the phone wouldn't be that smart if all the notifications are disabled, however, keep them at bare minimum. Not everybody would be interested in notifications from all the apps, so spend some time analyzing through all the installed apps and their settings to turn off the notifications for the apps you do not need to get notifications for. There are several apps that keep sending notifications and running a thread in background which again checks internet to load the notification content. An example would be games like Candy Crush or Clash Of Clans.
4. Turn off "Send Usage Statistics" or "Help Improve the app performance", "Participate in improvement" etc settings from the app which sends data from your device from time to time which acts as a survey to improve the performance of the app. Although this is a necessary option for a developer, however, if you do not care about your granular contribution towards further development of the app, try deselecting such options while setting up new apps.
5. Refrain from using external Memory Management Apps and RAM Cleaners. They tend to run heavy background services to detect memory usage and kill applications. Trust me, you would be better without them.
6. Try using black wallpaper and lock screen. Also, always select Dark Mode if any app has theme section. This makes the pixels produce less brightness and considerably save more battery.
7. Keep GPS Location off when not using any navigational/location based apps. When the GPS is ON, there are some apps that tend to acquire a GPS Lock even though they can work without it. Keeping GPS Off will not allow such apps to request for GPS Lock. GPS Locking is a battery draining process.
8. You can use certain tools like Greenify, WiFi Automatic, etc. to automatically manage application states or phone wireless to save some additional battery. Use these only if you are lazy like me. Otherwise you can always manually turn on/off wifi/bluetooth/nfc etc etc. Also, there are tools (like Juice Defender) which can enable/disable data connective at a frequent interval which results in really good power conservation without loosing push notification.
With applying most of these settings, I'm getting 6-7 hrs of screen on time very easily even when I've downloaded 1+ GB data and 40 minutes of video chat (hangout). Not to mention the usual gaming and application usage.:cyclops:
I hope that helps. I'll keep adding if I get any (without root).
Reserved for future use!
.....
apurva.giri said:
A phone even with killer looks and amazing features still needs a descent battery backup to support it all. In past we've seen that a few tricks here and there always tend to increase battery life. Usually that includes disabling a few apps or features. This thread is for specifically targeting such tips & tricks and sharing it all so that S6 Edge+ can live upto its expectations..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tweak brightness.
I believe rooting a phone can improve its battery life. This method works for almost all devices.
st8chic said:
I believe rooting a phone can improve its battery life. This method works for almost all devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure you mean rooting and installing all sorts of battery saving items/tweaking.
Marely rooting wouldn't bring any difference to battery life for sure!
Just tweak brightness, make sure you getting good signal and use WiFi when available, don't leave Abby of the radio on unless not using it and that shall be good I guess
Sent from my SM-G900H using XDA Free mobile app
How can you disable those apps. I'm on T Mobile but we have our share of T Mobile bloat. Would love to disable a bunch of them without customizing my files lol
edo101 said:
How can you disable those apps. I'm on T Mobile but we have our share of T Mobile bloat. Would love to disable a bunch of them without customizing my files lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just long press the app in the app drawer and drag it up to where it says disable.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Just long press the app in the app drawer and drag it up to where it says disable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is an app drawer lol?
edo101 said:
What is an app drawer lol?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's the icon on the lower right corner of the screen that says "Apps". Once you get in there find the app that you want to disable. Long press the icon of the app and drag it to the upper left corner of the screen where it says "Disable". Then when the "Disable" word lights up red just release the app into there.
Check out my screenshot for an example.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
It's the icon on the lower right corner of the screen that says "Apps". Once you get in there find the app that you want to disable. Long press the icon of the app and drag it to the upper left corner of the screen where it says "Disable". Then when the "Disable" word lights up red just release the app into there.
Check out my screenshot for an example.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got it!, and Thanked. I'm actually on a Note Edge on 5.0, just moved back down to 4.4.4, it doesn't show up as disable.
hiteshonline said:
Tweak brightness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tweak brightness is its pmajor problem.......
Thanks for the listing. I love the new design than S6 edge, hopefully it will last longer as well...
Please tell me a solution if any one knows:
I open facebook and after some time i close this application by click on list tasks soft key and close it. Immediately when I go into setting > application manager > running apps I still see a facebook process running. Technically i guess this should be gone i guess and hence any idea how to clean these which i guess can improve battery life.
Update: If I have notifications turned on in facebook then yes it can still run some process even after I close it in Apps Tab but I see the same with Samsung Music Player i.e after I close it I still see a thread in "Running" Apps.
vravik said:
Please tell me a solution if any one knows:
I open facebook and after some time i close this application by click on list tasks soft key and close it. Immediately when I go into setting > application manager > running apps I still see a facebook process running. Technically i guess this should be gone i guess and hence any idea how to clean these which i guess can improve battery life.
Update: If I have notifications turned on in facebook then yes it can still run some process even after I close it in Apps Tab but I see the same with Samsung Music Player i.e after I close it I still see a thread in "Running" Apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
These kind of apps do tend to run a background process to check for updates. Closing the app doesn't necessarily mean that the processes will close. And I'm not even sure even if you turn off all the notification services of an app, all the related processes will close for sure, it depends. Also, if you are using apps like facebook etc, do not worry much about the battery life if you have turned off the background data usage and notification services. It will have very minimal impact, almost negligible!
on Tmobile version, Its not possible to disable Tmobile apps or smasung's own bloat. What a sigh!
taranfx said:
on Tmobile version, Its not possible to disable Tmobile apps or smasung's own bloat. What a sigh!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Package disabler pro app disables everything you want!
No root needed
Dvanzutphenkann said:
Package disabler pro app disables everything you want!
No root needed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it does. Came across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 does a good job on mine so far. It disabled around 30 app and i feel it did make a difference. I use the default XML attached
ShyamSasi said:
Yes it does. Came across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 does a good job on mine so far. It disabled around 30 app and i feel it did make a difference. I use the default XML attached
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Out of all those 30 apps you disabled did you lose any functionality?