I would like to buy a nexus 7 to hack it into my wifes car permanently. I am worried about the stock battery in the extreme temp changes. Is there a way I could remove the battery and just have the car battery be it's battery? I can't imagine it draining the battery too much over a day or so.
stupid idea i must say...........
leaving all voltage/current/temperature issues aside, if u somehow do make it work, ur tab's gonna turn off every time when u switch off the ignition (at traffic lights, jams etc).
why not just buy a dashboard dock for ur tab, and a car charger(which is connected via the cigarette lighter outlet), u can leave tht charger connected if u wish.
aritro88 said:
stupid idea i must say...........
leaving all voltage/current/temperature issues aside, if u somehow do make it work, ur tab's gonna turn off every time when u switch off the ignition (at traffic lights, jams etc).
why not just buy a dashboard dock for ur tab, and a car charger(which is connected via the cigarette lighter outlet), u can leave tht charger connected if u wish.
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Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about, so please refrain from shedding your "brilliance" moving forward. This is nothing new, and people are doing this all over the place.
There are applications to allow the tablet to remain charged while in ignition->off mode, while not draining the vehicle's power (read: trickle charging, essentially). Who the hell turns off their car at traffic lights/jams? I don't know a single person that does this.
There are TONS of advantages to installing a N7 into your vehicle as your primary audio/nav/etc. source. Internet radio, hands free call/SMS over stereo, navigation, etc. all in one for a mere couple hundred dollars.
Do some research before you just slam someone's idea.
OP: Check out an app called Tasker. It allows you to configure the tablet to see vehicle ignition and at that condition, brighten the screen, turn on WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/etc., and then turn all that stuff off, and go into a low voltage mode. This will take care of your battery concerns.
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Yes I know about tasker and I am sure I can get that to work for ignition on and off. Maybe I need to rephrase my question and shed some more light.What I am wondering is if there is a good way to run it with no battery and use the car completely for power or if it is even possible. I know that tasker will get its info from it if there is power on the charge port but what if I don't use that? What if I give it power directly from the car where the battery should be. Is it possible for me to do that? The only reason I was thinking of doing that is because it would be permanent and I do not want the battery to explode in the summer heat. Could I run the tab with just power over USB and no battery? So that ignition sends power to the Tab and it has no tablet battery ? I have not purchased the tablet yet and was hoping to figure this all out before I start hacking it to pieces. I am not scared to solder or do any of that but I do not know how the tablet will work with no battery so I was hoping someone else would. Thanks
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stupid idea i must say...........
leaving all voltage/current/temperature issues aside, if u somehow do make it work, ur tab's gonna turn off every time when u switch off the ignition (at traffic lights, jams etc).
why not just buy a dashboard dock for ur tab, and a car charger(which is connected via the cigarette lighter outlet), u can leave tht charger connected if u wish.
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I do not shut off my car as I do not live in a big city with traffic jams or any of that. I am not worried about voltage/current as I am sure I can figure that out or modify a current 12v to usb charger. Temperature I am also not worried about as I can add heatsinks to everything and fans if needed. I am a little worried about the battery sitting in the car in the heat and that is why I am asking these questions.
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Who the hell turns off their car at traffic lights/jams? I don't know a single person that does this.
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either u (and the people you know) r very rich, or u hav got a SUPER eco friendly fuel saving car that i dont know about. everyone turns off their ignition when they are stuck at jams n lights.
my guess, u own a normal run off the mill car. so switch off ur engine when required, it'll save u abt 800-1000$ worth of fuel in a year
There are TONS of advantages to installing a N7 into your vehicle as your primary audio/nav/etc. source. Internet radio, hands free call/SMS over stereo, navigation, etc. all in one for a mere couple hundred dollars.
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not to mention the laborious process of rewiring ur car's electrical systems, dashboard trims etc...........
my process will cost a maximum of abt 10-15$, and at max 2mins of install time. (use a "line-in" cable to route ur tab's audio via the cars existing stereo system)
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What I am wondering is if there is a good way to run it with no battery and use the car completely for power or if it is even possible.
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try it with ur cell phone. connect and charger and pull out the battery, see what happens....
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I am a little worried about the battery sitting in the car in the heat and that is why I am asking these questions.
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??? Heat on the battery will do what ??? I have had a GPS on the dash of my car solid, parked outdoors, for 2 years. Still works fine when plugged in to the 12v adapter, and even holds a charge. Heat may shorten "life" of battery, but if it is also connected to a power cource of the car, should be FINE.:good:
Well from the looks of it no one has a real answer so I am just going to mess around with one when I get it and see what works best for me. I do not mind rewiring the entire car as I planned to do that with new speakers and an amp etc. I have done many car audio installs and I actually enjoy doing it. I think what I will probably end up doing is keeping the battery in it and if it does go bad I can just replace it. The way I see it is it is a pretty cheap tablet to mess around with compared to the thousand plus I would spend on a double din to do the same thing. Plus if I don't like how it works on my test bench then I will just use it as a tablet and not put it in the car. Thanks for the help. Also I don't know a single person who shuts their cars off at stop lights. I am sure it is great on the car to start and stop the motor every 2 minutes. You do realize you use very little gas when at idle. Anyways, thanks for the ideas.
Is this a serious post? Obviously if I am looking to hack a 200$ tablet I am not worried about cost too much. Also your idea is easy but I want it to be integrated and clean. I want it to look nice and not just have wires and mount sitting there.
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either u (and the people you know) r very rich, or u hav got a SUPER eco friendly fuel saving car that i dont know about. everyone turns off their ignition when they are stuck at jams n lights.
my guess, u own a normal run off the mill car. so switch off ur engine when required, it'll save u abt 800-1000$ worth of fuel in a year
not to mention the laborious process of rewiring ur car's electrical systems, dashboard trims etc...........
my process will cost a maximum of abt 10-15$, and at max 2mins of install time. (use a "line-in" cable to route ur tab's audio via the cars existing stereo system)
try it with ur cell phone. connect and charger and pull out the battery, see what happens....
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aritro88 said:
either u (and the people you know) r very rich, or u hav got a SUPER eco friendly fuel saving car that i dont know about. everyone turns off their ignition when they are stuck at jams n lights.
my guess, u own a normal run off the mill car. so switch off ur engine when required, it'll save u abt 800-1000$ worth of fuel in a year
not to mention the laborious process of rewiring ur car's electrical systems, dashboard trims etc...........
my process will cost a maximum of abt 10-15$, and at max 2mins of install time. (use a "line-in" cable to route ur tab's audio via the cars existing stereo system)
try it with ur cell phone. connect and charger and pull out the battery, see what happens....
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Is this real life? are you serious right now? You have got to either be trolling, or just a complete idiot.
You should have to pass at least a 4rd grade grammar test to post on this forum, because posts like these are just embarrassing to the forum.
aritro88 said:
either u (and the people you know) r very rich, or u hav got a SUPER eco friendly fuel saving car that i dont know about. everyone turns off their ignition when they are stuck at jams n lights.
my guess, u own a normal run off the mill car. so switch off ur engine when required, it'll save u abt 800-1000$ worth of fuel in a year
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2001 Corvette, I'm not rich, I'm a DIY'er. Isn't that what this forum is for? People that like to do projects and things themselves? Are you not from the US? Literally, no one does that but you. It doesn't take much fuel for a vehicle to sit at idle. In fact, it generally consumes MORE fuel to start a vehicle rather than let it idle for a few minutes rather than turn it off, wait a minute, turn it on, drive a bit, repeat, etc. Care to argue with me about this? I'm an ASE certified technician and will teach you a thing or two.
aritro88 said:
not to mention the laborious process of rewiring ur car's electrical systems, dashboard trims etc...........
my process will cost a maximum of abt 10-15$, and at max 2mins of install time. (use a "line-in" cable to route ur tab's audio via the cars existing stereo system)
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Rewiring my car? Haha. No. There's no rewiring involved other than adding an adapter. I think even a 4 year old could handle that task. Dashboard trims should not need modification on most newer vehicles, as most newer vehicles come with a double din or larger console that will either allow for direct fitment, or fitment with a simple install kit. My car requires modification, but it's easy work. It's not for the average Joe when it comes to modifying plastics, no, but you can hire people to do that. Also, again, this is a PROJECT. If you don't like it, shut up about it and don't post. The OP wants to do this, let him do it. Congrats on your cool 2 minute idea, but guess what, it's going to look stupid compared to an in-dash installation. Don't believe me?
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Is this real life? are you serious right now? You have got to either be trolling, or just a complete idiot.
You should have to pass at least a 4rd grade grammar test to post on this forum, because posts like these are just embarrassing to the forum.
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Awesome post.. I see you went the whole nexus dash route, did you end up going with a permanent solution or is the tablet just hiding in there? I wanted to do this for my wife and make it as friendly as possible. I was looking at using the ElementalX kernel so that I could add usb storage while charging, is that what you did? I would also be using co-pilot for gps since I can just download the maps. Did you add a usb-dac to yours? I figured if I am going to spend some money on nice speakers and an amp or two I might as well get the best audio quality. My biggest concern is that this project will be wife proof and it will work well for her on a daily use. I would love to get her steering controls working too but that may be a stretch. I actually love to tinker with this stuff so if it takes a couple weeks to get it working with ignition on off etc and music, gps, etc etc I am totally cool with that. I have done 4 carputer intalls before this but this will be my first tablet job. I figure if it goes well and I really like it then I will do the same to my car.
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2001 Corvette, I'm not rich, I'm a DIY'er. Isn't that what this forum is for? People that like to do projects and things themselves? Are you not from the US? Literally, no one does that but you. It doesn't take much fuel for a vehicle to sit at idle. In fact, it generally consumes MORE fuel to start a vehicle rather than let it idle for a few minutes rather than turn it off, wait a minute, turn it on, drive a bit, repeat, etc. Care to argue with me about this? I'm an ASE certified technician and will teach you a thing or two.
Rewiring my car? Haha. No. There's no rewiring involved other than adding an adapter. I think even a 4 year old could handle that task. Dashboard trims should not need modification on most newer vehicles, as most newer vehicles come with a double din or larger console that will either allow for direct fitment, or fitment with a simple install kit. My car requires modification, but it's easy work. It's not for the average Joe when it comes to modifying plastics, no, but you can hire people to do that. Also, again, this is a PROJECT. If you don't like it, shut up about it and don't post. The OP wants to do this, let him do it. Congrats on your cool 2 minute idea, but guess what, it's going to look stupid compared to an in-dash installation. Don't believe me?
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JohnnyTightlips said:
Awesome post.. I see you went the whole nexus dash route, did you end up going with a permanent solution or is the tablet just hiding in there? I wanted to do this for my wife and make it as friendly as possible. I was looking at using the ElementalX kernel so that I could add usb storage while charging, is that what you did? I would also be using co-pilot for gps since I can just download the maps. Did you add a usb-dac to yours? I figured if I am going to spend some money on nice speakers and an amp or two I might as well get the best audio quality. My biggest concern is that this project will be wife proof and it will work well for her on a daily use. I would love to get her steering controls working too but that may be a stretch. I actually love to tinker with this stuff so if it takes a couple weeks to get it working with ignition on off etc and music, gps, etc etc I am totally cool with that. I have done 4 carputer intalls before this but this will be my first tablet job. I figure if it goes well and I really like it then I will do the same to my car.
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Actually, that's the build I'm basing mine off of. Mine is going to be very similar, though I did have to do a bit of dash modification to make it fit (I should be done this week and will be posting pics/build thread). The one in the photo is "permanent" (though he simply hot glued brackets to it and it could easily be removed), and mine will be permanent. For $200, I have no issue keeping the thing installed permanently. My current 2013 has CM11 on it, but I haven't tested it with USB OTG (waiting on another cable to arrive), though if it doesn't work, I'll just use the ElementalX kernel with a stock ROM, since I'm sure that will work. Timur is working on a 2013 ROM as well. However, that's exactly what the plan is. 1TB external HDD with the accessory wire switching on a relay to engage the charging/screen on profile for the tablet, then upon key off, kill relay, and switching profile to off profile. I'm using a ByByte QUAD 7850 mini-amp to power everything. (LINK)
Regarding steering wheel controls, though I hear it's possible, I'm told it is a MAJOR project. I'm not going to bother with that, myself.
Sounds awesome, I will be excited to read your write up. I am curious to know how good that little amp will be. I was thinking of doing a 5 channel amp but I really didn't want to tear up the interior to run all the wires. Will you be using stock speakers? Are you using the 3.5mm jack or going to move toward a usb-dac? I will probably just go with a 64gb usb pen drive since my wife will only be doing music and very few movies if ever. I will also be adding fm to mine. Seems like all of this can be easily tested before it is in a car so I might have to take the plunge and start tinkering. Hook me up with a link when you get your write up going. Thanks
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Actually, that's the build I'm basing mine off of. Mine is going to be very similar, though I did have to do a bit of dash modification to make it fit (I should be done this week and will be posting pics/build thread). The one in the photo is "permanent" (though he simply hot glued brackets to it and it could easily be removed), and mine will be permanent. For $200, I have no issue keeping the thing installed permanently. My current 2013 has CM11 on it, but I haven't tested it with USB OTG (waiting on another cable to arrive), though if it doesn't work, I'll just use the ElementalX kernel with a stock ROM, since I'm sure that will work. Timur is working on a 2013 ROM as well. However, that's exactly what the plan is. 1TB external HDD with the accessory wire switching on a relay to engage the charging/screen on profile for the tablet, then upon key off, *****. I'm using a ByByte QUAD 7850 mini-amp to power everything. (LINK)
Regarding steering wheel controls, though I hear it's possible, I'm told it is a MAJOR project. I'm not going to bother with that, myself.
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Sounds awesome, I will be excited to read your write up. I am curious to know how good that little amp will be. I was thinking of doing a 5 channel amp but I really didn't want to tear up the interior to run all the wires. Will you be using stock speakers? Are you using the 3.5mm jack or going to move toward a usb-dac? I will probably just go with a 64gb usb pen drive since my wife will only be doing music and very few movies if ever. I will also be adding fm to mine. Seems like all of this can be easily tested before it is in a car so I might have to take the plunge and start tinkering. Hook me up with a link when you get your write up going. Thanks
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The guy who's build I'm replicating used the mini amp, said it was just fine. It's basically the same as the built-in amps on a regular head unit. I may switch to aftermarket speakers/amp/sub in the future, though, so stock speakers for now. Since it has a factory Bose setup, I had to buy a PAC ROEM-VET1 adapter to lower the frequency, which allows me to use the factory speakers.
Yup, definitely can mostly be bench tested first. I haven't done much research on FM. Have you? Any thoughts on how to accomplish that? I really don't care if I never have FM in my car again, but I'm curious to know how people are accomplishing that.
Will do on the link. :good:
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The guy who's build I'm replicating used the mini amp, said it was just fine. It's basically the same as the built-in amps on a regular head unit. I may switch to aftermarket speakers/amp/sub in the future, though, so stock speakers for now. Since it has a factory Bose setup, I had to buy a PAC ROEM-VET1 adapter to lower the frequency, which allows me to use the factory speakers.
Yup, definitely can mostly be bench tested first. I haven't done much research on FM. Have you? Any thoughts on how to accomplish that? I really don't care if I never have FM in my car again, but I'm curious to know how people are accomplishing that.
Will do on the link. :good:
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I looked into it and people have used something like this DVB-T Realtek RTL2832U Elonics R820T 50MHz-2200MHz HD TV DAB SDR RTL-SDR Project and used it for radio with SDR TOUCH I ordered one already and will see how well it works on a PC before I get the tablet. You would need to get a usb hub working in order to plug it in and your hdd. I learned a lot from Nexus 7 clean car install with backup cam. He is using the older nexus but I am sure a lot of the same stuff applies as long as you have a kernel that supports it which there is now. My wife could not live without NPR so she has to have radio. It is also nice to have radio and not need data, then you know if there are any weather events or crazy things going on.
aritro88 said:
stupid idea i must say...........
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Search YouTube. Some really cool in dash tablet setups out there. They even have modules avail now where you can use your steering wheel controls with the tablet. For a 200$ tablet, N7 not a bad deal for an in dash car setup. There is a great market out there for supplies and Installers on this exact topic!! Some make them removable, some pop into sight when you turn the key.!! I would love to have the time to take on an in dash Android setup, fun project to say the least.
I suppose it would only be a stupid idea for the non Android lovers and boring dudes lacking the love for technology. Negative kids these day
JohnnyTightlips said:
Is this a serious post? Obviously if I am looking to hack a 200$ tablet I am not worried about cost too much. Also your idea is easy but I want it to be integrated and clean. I want it to look nice and not just have wires and mount sitting there.
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He is trolling.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk 4
Yes, it's possible, but has some side-effects
Edit: Sorry, didn't see this whole forum section is about the 2013 Nexus 7. But it still might be relevant if anyone dares to do the same hack on a new Nexus 7...
To answer the original question: Yes, it's possible to power the Nexus 7 (old) without battery, but it involves sending power directly to the battery connection inside the Nexus 7, and it seems to have some side-effects.
The battery is a one-cell lithium polymer, which has a max charge of 4.23 V. I hoped the Nexus wouldn't fry when connecting 5 V, and it has worked fine the few minutes I've tested it. No smell of burnt electronics
Here is what I did:
Tear off the tape around the battery cable. You'll see it's soldered to a pcb-board, and the two black and two red wires are soldered together. The two wires in the middle is probably some kind of data-connection to the battery. Will investigate this further later.
Then I soldered loose the cables, so I could use the battery-connector, and soldered both red and black wires to red and black wires in a USB-cable. Drilled a hole in the back-cover right below the NFC-antenna. The back-cover is filled with all sorts of antennas, so scratch carefully with a knife before drilling. Attached some pictures of the process.
Side-effects I've noticed so far:
- It thinks the battery is at 0% and not charging.
- The clock is reset when you turn off the power. But if you have internet it will update from NTP within a minute or so.
- My computer (OS X) can't detect it anymore. So I suspect it doesn't work in USB device-mode anymore, but I'm able to connect a USB-keyboard with an OTG-cable, so it seems to work in host-mode.
Does anyone else have any experience with this, or any ideas why it doesn't work in device-mode? I'm considering adding a small connector so I can use the two extra wires from the battery to the data-wires of the USB-cable (and disconnect when not in use), and then solder a USB female cable to the original battery. That way I can (hopefully) connect the Nexus 7 to my computer when needed, and possibly analyze what the two extra wires is actually used for.
I have CM for Android 4.2, and Timur's USB-rom, but it's probably not needed for this hack, and I will probably install a stock rom if I get this working properly.
Be careful, and don't blame me if you fry your Nexus (or anything else). Be sure to turn off any fast-charge hacks when the battery is disconnected.
You've done some more testing?
I am also trying to connect directly to the car my nexus.
Thanks for the reply
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Edit: Sorry, didn't see this whole forum section is about the 2013 Nexus 7. But it still might be relevant if anyone dares to do the same hack on a new Nexus 7...
To answer the original question: Yes, it's possible to power the Nexus 7 (old) without battery, but it involves sending power directly to the battery connection inside the Nexus 7, and it seems to have some side-effects.
The battery is a one-cell lithium polymer, which has a max charge of 4.23 V. I hoped the Nexus wouldn't fry when connecting 5 V, and it has worked fine the few minutes I've tested it. No smell of burnt electronics
Here is what I did:
Tear off the tape around the battery cable. You'll see it's soldered to a pcb-board, and the two black and two red wires are soldered together. The two wires in the middle is probably some kind of data-connection to the battery. Will investigate this further later.
Then I soldered loose the cables, so I could use the battery-connector, and soldered both red and black wires to red and black wires in a USB-cable. Drilled a hole in the back-cover right below the NFC-antenna. The back-cover is filled with all sorts of antennas, so scratch carefully with a knife before drilling. Attached some pictures of the process.
Side-effects I've noticed so far:
- It thinks the battery is at 0% and not charging.
- The clock is reset when you turn off the power. But if you have internet it will update from NTP within a minute or so.
- My computer (OS X) can't detect it anymore. So I suspect it doesn't work in USB device-mode anymore, but I'm able to connect a USB-keyboard with an OTG-cable, so it seems to work in host-mode.
Does anyone else have any experience with this, or any ideas why it doesn't work in device-mode? I'm considering adding a small connector so I can use the two extra wires from the battery to the data-wires of the USB-cable (and disconnect when not in use), and then solder a USB female cable to the original battery. That way I can (hopefully) connect the Nexus 7 to my computer when needed, and possibly analyze what the two extra wires is actually used for.
I have CM for Android 4.2, and Timur's USB-rom, but it's probably not needed for this hack, and I will probably install a stock rom if I get this working properly.
Be careful, and don't blame me if you fry your Nexus (or anything else). Be sure to turn off any fast-charge hacks when the battery is disconnected.
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hi!
When I plugged my TyTN into PC via USB or to A/C charger I found that LCD is not displaying properly the today screen, it was getting white and some colour lines showed for few seconds. It was randomly changing and showing and hiding... and caused that I can't work with device.
What was diagnosed by me that when I move the USB jack fitted in port to left or right it helped to come back to OK status.
So I used (in anger) my strenght and fixed my machine for longer time (don't ask how but i'm curious if usb port located in TyTN can be used out???
someone any experience??
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hi!
When I plugged my TyTN into PC via USB or to A/C charger I found that LCD is not displaying properly the today screen, it was getting white and some colour lines showed for few seconds. It was randomly changing and showing and hiding... and caused that I can't work with device.
What was diagnosed by me that when I move the USB jack fitted in port to left or right it helped to come back to OK status.
So I used (in anger) my strenght and fixed my machine for longer time (don't ask how but i'm curious if usb port located in TyTN can be used out???
someone any experience??
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As with any device, the hermes will get to the end of its life. And usb ports can break quite easly if your not carefull or unlucky.
Thats why I never use the wired headphones, dont want to kill my port.
Glad to see you got yours working again though! (your lucky you didnt break it fully, by using to much strength )
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As with any device, the hermes will get to the end of its life. And usb ports can break quite easly if your not carefull or unlucky.
Thats why I never use the wired headphones, dont want to kill my port.
Glad to see you got yours working again though! (your lucky you didnt break it fully, by using to much strength )
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i hope it will work as long as possible
you know i'm using wired headset quite often and quite often plug in usb a/c in my car so maybe that why it is sending me singnals that he have enough
maybe when this brick will stop working it will be good argument for my wife to purchase new WM device (Diamond maybe)
greetz
rexmundi said:
i hope it will work as long as possible
you know i'm using wired headset quite often and quite often plug in usb a/c in my car so maybe that why it is sending me singnals that he have enough
maybe when this brick will stop working it will be good argument for my wife to purchase new WM device (Diamond maybe)
greetz
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I myself am trying to work out a way to get a Kaiser.. dont think I could quite sneak a touch pro though the net (GPS calls to me, and i dont like bluetooth dongles)
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I myself am trying to work out a way to get a Kaiser.. dont think I could quite sneak a touch pro though the net (GPS calls to me, and i dont like bluetooth dongles)
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+1 on the kaiser for the next phone man... i'll be around for a while in hermes though
You can always buy a new usb port, but make sure you have a good soldering iron, and very good eyes. The 5 pins on the base of the port are extremely small and close together. If you don't have a magnifying glass, it could be a nightmare.
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maybe when this brick will stop working it will be good argument for my wife to purchase new WM device (Diamond maybe)
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If that's the case, I'd just snap that port off now.
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I myself am trying to work out a way to get a Kaiser.. dont think I could quite sneak a touch pro though the net (GPS calls to me, and i dont like bluetooth dongles)
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Kaiser is a mess I think, with all the non-accelerated video etc problems.
I'm eyeballing with Sony's XPERIA but only when it becomes $300-400 and only if no Android will match it by then - because XPeria's initial $1k price won't go down in less than 6-8 months and most like by then (practically next Spring) the second wave of Android-based phones will be arriving, beating XPERIA in everything at less than half the price...
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Kaiser is a mess I think, with all the non-accelerated video etc problems.
I'm eyeballing with Sony's XPERIA but only when it becomes $300-400 and only if no Android will match it by then - because XPeria's initial $1k price won't go down in less than 6-8 months and most like by then (practically next Spring) the second wave of Android-based phones will be arriving, beating XPERIA in everything at less than half the price...
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The Omni software driver and HTC class action drivers do the job fine I dont even use any D3D stuff.
The extra ram and the faster cpu sound good to me.
I just received and installed the official Samsung car mount. Physically, it has incredible build quality. Both the suction piece and the actual arm look and feel as if they were designed to withstand people trying to break it. The aesthetics are also top notch. Performance is what I was looking for. I no longer have to plug in my headphone jack into my phone every time I get in the car. I can now pop my phone in and leave Pandora running with the screen on without worrying about being distracted when changing songs or draining battery life. The adjustments available are perfect for me since I mounted mines on the windshield. If you want to mount it somewhere else using the plastic dash piece they give you, the fixed arm and adjustable joint may not provide you with as much mobility as you'd need--depending on where you mount it.
This dock is easily worth the $36 I paid for it, that much I know for certain. I have a similar dock from when I had my iPhone 3GS and it looks flimsy and cheap compared to the Samsung mount even though both cost approximately the same. For the price, the dock and charger combo are hard to beat. It's also a lot more convenient to use than a dock that doesn't have the phone connections built in.
All in all, I'm incredibly satisfied with the purchase.
In case you're wondering how it hooks up, here's a youtube link for the T-mobile Galaxy S2 that another user posted. The Sprint version is exactly the same, except for adjustments made to the flexible plastic to fit our phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8XNr7A91j0
thanks for this, megatron! I dont want to okie dokie my phone if I dont need to and this looks really nice and durable...appreciate the post.
rayandreas said:
thanks for this, megatron! I dont want to okie dokie my phone if I dont need to and this looks really nice and durable...appreciate the post.
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No problem. Be sure to note that it may not fit your phone if you use a case. I haven't pushed the charger yet to see how much of a load it can handle before the energy use by the phone outpaces the power supplied by the charger. Thus far, I've only run Pandora with the screen on a 100% of the time and it still charged the phone a good amount. I'm hoping I eventually get the chance to test out google maps or navigation with pandora running to see how the charger holds up against that type of drain.
i have this, very happy with it so far.
Question: How does the phone know it's docked to activate Car Mode? Is there a magnet in the dock that the phone picks up on like the old DROIDs?
Based on this review, I've ordered one of the mounts for myself. I'll report back when it comes in!
xak944 said:
Question: How does the phone know it's docked to activate Car Mode? Is there a magnet in the dock that the phone picks up on like the old DROIDs?
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I believe it detects a certain resistance or short across a couple of the USB pins.
I recieved my Xtrememac incharge BT for use in the car. It's $80 but found it for $18 from nothingbutsoftware.com, strange I couldn't complete the purchase on my iPad. I'm glad it wouldn't let me cause it was $30 on the iPad but then when I shared the URL to my Nexus the price was $18. I purchased it for $18 and recieved it today. The audio quality is amazing! Even better than using 3.5mm jack from phone to aux in! I am using Volume+ but have the same settings for both wired headset and bt. I couldn't be happier with my purchase so I thought I would share. You just plug into the car charger and 3.5 jack into aux in, pair, and your done. No cables to phone and no call quality is great. The aux in part functions as a mic and button to answer/end calls. And the car charger part has a USB port for charging phone, it comes with an iPhone/iPad charger but you can plug in any USB cable for charge. Let me know if you have any questions. Hope someone else enjoys this as much as me.
Here are some pics. Disregard how messy my car is, I didn't have time to clean, vacuum, armor-all and such. I dont have time for much of anything these days cause I work in a tax office and I'm sure you know what that means this time of year. Hell I shouldn't even have time to occupy these forums but what can I say - my hobby. I took these just now spur of the moment to clear up any confusion. Also I took the picks with my GN, of course.
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And just for kicks, here are some NFC tags. The left one toggles BT. The right one toggles from Auto-brightness to Brightness value 0 (completely dim - I hate bright screens). The reason these are not combined into one tag is because at night I dont need to toggle brightness.
About to get this but I'm not seeing the $18 price. Only $ 29.99. Even tried sharing the link
Penutbutter_N_Jelly said:
About to get this but I'm not seeing the $18 price. Only $ 29.99. Even tried sharing the link
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Not sure how I pulled this off.. looked on the iPad and it was $30, couldn't purchase so I used Read It Later to share the link to my Nexus, opened it and it was $18. Surprised the hell out of me too. Maybe it was a glitch!? But I am not going crazy, that is the price I bought it for. Even at $30 its a good purchase and with a retail price of $80 (which is a little ridiculous imo) you cant beat it.
What is the reason for this? At first I thought you plug it into your phone.. but then that made absolutely no sense to me... Do you plug it into your head unit? If I understand correctly, it is for head units that do not have bluetooth?
Wouldn't it be easier / cheaper / better audio quality to just plug Male to Male 3.5mm in?
(I have a pioneer aftermarket head unit with built in bluetooth and have no experience with not having bluetooth.. so my thoughts on the matter are biased).
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Not sure how I pulled this off.. looked on the iPad and it was $30, couldn't purchase so I used Read It Later to share the link to my Nexus, opened it and it was $18. Surprised the hell out of me too. Maybe it was a glitch!? But I am not going crazy, that is the price I bought it for. Even at $30 its a good purchase and with a retail price of $80 (which is a little ridiculous imo) you cant beat it.
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Hmm... I got impatient and just ordered on amazon for 25 + free shipping. I was just thinking i need something like this (I despise wires) and when I saw your post this morning all I could think was "I need this!!!"
$18-25... not much of a difference. Like you said, much better than the $80 retail.
Thanks for posting this dude!
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What is the reason for this? At first I thought you plug it into your phone.. but then that made absolutely no sense to me... Do you plug it into your head unit? If I understand correctly, it is for head units that do not have bluetooth?
Wouldn't it be easier / cheaper / better audio quality to just plug Male to Male 3.5mm in?
(I have a pioneer aftermarket head unit with built in bluetooth and have no experience with not having bluetooth.. so my thoughts on the matter are biased).
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Basically it's to eliminate wires.
My aux input is in my center console (right next to a power port so this works out nice) and when using 3.5mm it just seems sloppy to me with the wire being pinched in the console lid and such...
Hopefully it sounds as good for me as it does for WiredPirate.
raing said:
What is the reason for this? At first I thought you plug it into your phone.. but then that made absolutely no sense to me... Do you plug it into your head unit? If I understand correctly, it is for head units that do not have bluetooth?
Wouldn't it be easier / cheaper / better audio quality to just plug Male to Male 3.5mm in?
(I have a pioneer aftermarket head unit with built in bluetooth and have no experience with not having bluetooth.. so my thoughts on the matter are biased).
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Did you even read the OP? I explained the function - NO WIRES TO PHONE. And I stated that this sounds BETTER than using the 3.5mm cable. Give me a minute and I will take a pic for you.
As far as the Pioneer BT deck I have one as well. Sitting in my closet. I loved it in my Crown Vic but after buying a new off the lot vehicle I couldn't bring myself to tear up the dash, maybe I will in the future, but for now this works great.
Edit: Uploaded some pics for you bud.
Can you link to it on amazon? I cant seem to locate it.
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Did you even read the OP? I explained the function - NO WIRES TO PHONE. And I stated that this sounds BETTER than using the 3.5mm cable. Give me a minute and I will take a pic for you.
As far as the Pioneer BT deck I have one as well. Sitting in my closet. I loved it in my Crown Vic but after buying a new off the lot vehicle I couldn't bring myself to tear up the dash, maybe I will in the future, but for now this works great.
Edit: Uploaded some pics for you bud.
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that doesn't make sense to me.
3.5 cable = nexus to car.
Bluetooth = nexus to bluetooth to car... via 3.5 cable.
How could it possibly sound better? the 3.5 cable is still in there plus one extra step
Wiredpirate,
Say you have already set up the BT connection to the phone.
The next time you get in the car, do you have to turn on or press any button to connect or does it automatically search and connect to your phone once you turn on the ignition? TIA
Just to throw this out there, Belkin Aircast is very similar to this:
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=542721
Definitely more expensive though although you can get it for $30 on sale every now and then. It works exactly the same way except it also has a large button that you can put wherever that acts as a pause/play/answer/hangup button and also houses a microphone in it. I have this setup in my Ford Fiesta and love it.
I just use my MW600 in similar fashion but at least I can use it for headphones when I'm away from the car as well like for jogging or listening to music elsewhere.
Pricier of course but a little bit more versatile. Roughly about 46 bucks.
Knolly said:
Just to throw this out there, Belkin Aircast is very similar to this:
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=542721
Definitely more expensive though although you can get it for $30 on sale every now and then. It works exactly the same way except it also has a large button that you can put wherever that acts as a pause/play/answer/hangup button and also houses a microphone in it. I have this setup in my Ford Fiesta and love it.
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I was looking at that also, but I read from reviews that you have to press a button to make a connection every time it powers on. Is this true? I'm also turned away by that big button so I'd probably tried to hide it from sight.
Another option is the Griffin BlueTrip, but it is also very pricey.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004KPLS7K/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
$30 is not bad at all for these types of devices, especially if it has an extra USB port.
Nice. My head unit has BT but not for audio. I wonder if I added this would I still be able ot stream music to the car and then for answering a call, go through my head unit? Anyone have an idea on this?
Here is where mine's going.
Nice and stealth once the lid is down
smot13 said:
Can you link to it on amazon? I cant seem to locate it.
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THIS is the one I ordered
4Pr3mier said:
Wiredpirate,
Say you have already set up the BT connection to the phone.
The next time you get in the car, do you have to turn on or press any button to connect or does it automatically search and connect to your phone once you turn on the ignition? TIA
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I'm wondering this too
Penutbutter_N_Jelly said:
THIS is the one I ordered
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THanks. Will def be checking this out soon
machiz7888 said:
that doesn't make sense to me.
3.5 cable = nexus to car.
Bluetooth = nexus to bluetooth to car... via 3.5 cable.
How could it possibly sound better? the 3.5 cable is still in there plus one extra step
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Sound logic. Regardless, the fact remains that it sounds better/louder. Again I'm using the same setting in Volume plus for both bt and wired.
4Pr3mier said:
Wiredpirate,
Say you have already set up the BT connection to the phone.
The next time you get in the car, do you have to turn on or press any button to connect or does it automatically search and connect to your phone once you turn on the ignition? TIA
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Turn on the ignition, hit the one power/phone/end/answer button located on the plug in to the aux in, and it's auto paired in 3 seconds or less.
WiredPirate said:
Sound logic. Regardless, the fact remains that it sounds better/louder. Again I'm using the same setting in Volume plus for both bt and wired.
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If you charge your phone while it's plugged in via 3.5mm you can get interference due to the phone being grounded or something something. Someone explained it better in the thread about the pogo pin car dock, as that's why the official car dock for the Galaxy Nexus uses BT audio despite being physically connected.
4Pr3mier said:
I was looking at that also, but I read from reviews that you have to press a button to make a connection every time it powers on. Is this true? I'm also turned away by that big button so I'd probably tried to hide it from sight.
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It depends if your cigarette lighter socket turns off and on with the car. If it does go on and off with the car, it'll just auto search for a phone when the car starts. If it always provides power (like mine), you do have to hit the button just once. I mean it's a quick tap I just do it automatically when starting my car now, not a burden to do at all.
WiredPirate said:
Sound logic. Regardless, the fact remains that it sounds better/louder. Again I'm using the same setting in Volume plus for both bt and wired.
Turn on the ignition, hit the one power/phone/end/answer button located on the plug in to the aux in, and it's auto paired in 3 seconds or less.
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Hah love the pun.
Knolly said:
If you charge your phone while it's plugged in via 3.5mm you can get interference due to the phone being grounded or something something. Someone explained it better in the thread about the pogo pin car dock, as that's why the official car dock for the Galaxy Nexus uses BT audio despite being physically connected.
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It's actually very simple to explain. Speaker wires and power wires do not play nice together, anytime you have a power wire and speaker wire parallel to each other or crossing paths in certain ways you will get interference. (it must be a nightmare to the techs that set up for concerts and such). I know this because when I was younger I installed quite a few subs in different vehicles. There are ways to run the wires to reduce/eliminate interference. But do note in the picture, the way this is set up, the cable from the USB charger and the cable running to the aux in do not cross paths. I did use the charger last night while listening to music, no interference. Now if you have the cables all loose and tangled or crossing, I imagine you can expect some, sooo DON'T DO THAT. the same can be said about using a 3.5mm cable and a car charger, if the wires cross paths/ tangle/ whatever, you will get interference.
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Hah love the pun.
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Thank you sir. but in all seriousness I did not expect this to sound as good as it does, much less BETTER than the 3.5mm cable I had previously been using. I guess it's possible this thing has some kind of built in amplification, but I have no idea if it does or not.
4Pr3mier said:
Wiredpirate,
Say you have already set up the BT connection to the phone.
The next time you get in the car, do you have to turn on or press any button to connect or does it automatically search and connect to your phone once you turn on the ignition? TIA
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Turn on the ignition, hit the one power/phone/end/answer button located on the plug in to the aux in, and it's auto paired in 3 seconds or less.
UPDATE: the above statement is true if you already have bt enabled on your phone before starting the ignition. However, if bt is turned off when you start your ignition, the xtremeMac will auto pair up upon enabling bt.
I'm designing a dock for the N7v2 for use in a car. It will have Qi wireless charging and Bluetooth audio receiver, with a standard 3.5mm audio output. It should be compatible with most cases.
I am also currently designing a mounting method that should be close to universal between different cars, and should not fall off like most other docks in the market.
I designed one for the N7v1 using the Pogo pins, and I can never go back to not having a dock for my tablet in my car. It's amazing the difference it made for me.
I want to know a couple things.Please reply with the following template:
1. Would you want a dock like this?
2. How much do you expect to pay for it?
Thank you everyone, in advance!
lorddralnu said:
I'm designing a dock for the N7v2 for use in a car. It will have Qi wireless charging and Bluetooth audio receiver. It should be compatible with most cases.
I am also currently designing a mounting method that should be close to universal between different cars, and should not fall off like most other docks in the market.
I designed one for the N7v1 using the Pogo pins, and I can never go back to not having a dock for my tablet in my car. It's amazing the difference it made for me.
I want to know a couple things.Please reply with the following template:
1. Would you want a dock like this?
2. How much do you expect to pay for it?
Thank you everyone, in advance!
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Sounds like a great idea. Do you have any links showing your work with N7v1? Heck, I may be interested in that version since the v1 tablet can be had for cheap these days and is more than capable for the limited functions needed in a car. At any rate:
1. yes, would be interested
2. no idea what a fair price would be, but $50-$100 seems like a fair ballpark
I would think very carefully why you need a wireless charger in a car.
Heat kills batteries; tablets in cars get hot. Why add heat to your woes?
The tablet is likely to be busy playing music and navigating, often in full sunlight. Why add to the heating problems by using a wireless charger when a 5v cord charger attached to the car supply will do the trick?
The wireless car mount/charger iterations for the Nexus 4 were a failure, I recall.
rant said:
Sounds like a great idea. Do you have any links showing your work with N7v1? Heck, I may be interested in that version since the v1 tablet can be had for cheap these days and is more than capable for the limited functions needed in a car. At any rate:
1. yes, would be interested
2. no idea what a fair price would be, but $50-$100 seems like a fair ballpark
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I've attached 4 pictures of the dock I made for the first Nexus 7. You'll notice that it inst exactly a dock you can put in just any car. I realized I made a little too rugged... and big!
croques said:
I would think very carefully why you need a wireless charger in a car.
Heat kills batteries; tablets in cars get hot. Why add heat to your woes?
The tablet is likely to be busy playing music and navigating, often in full sunlight. Why add to the heating problems by using a wireless charger when a 5v cord charger attached to the car supply will do the trick?
The wireless car mount/charger iterations for the Nexus 4 were a failure, I recall.
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Well, that's why I don't leave the tablet in the car, I keep it with me. While I'm in the car, if it's hot out I will have the A/C on anyways, so heat has not been an issue.
Most of my broken devices are dead because the USB port broke because of wear and tear. One of the points of this dock is to reduce that. Plugging in a device everytime I get in the car is partly to blame for such failures. I would have used Pogo Pins, like with the first Nexus 7, but they don't exist on the second.
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lorddralnu said:
Most of my broken devices are dead because the USB port broke because of wear and tear. One of the points of this dock is to reduce that.
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Look at active Brodit car mounts - say for a Nexus 4. There the device is supported and aligned as it glides onto or off the USB. There is no possibility of twisting or yawing.
I think your proposal maybe over-kill - simplest solutions are always best IMHO. A guy in the Nexus 4 forum came to no good end and had a lot of unhappy 'subscribers'. Just saying.
croques said:
Look at active Brodit car mounts - say for a Nexus 4. There the device is supported and aligned as it glides onto or off the USB. There is no possibility of twisting or yawing.
I think your proposal maybe over-kill - simplest solutions are always best IMHO. A guy in the Nexus 4 forum came to no good end and had a lot of unhappy 'subscribers'. Just saying.
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I would normally agree. I was hoping to make one that doesnt require a case to be removed to use. I designed my previous dock the way you describe (except it used the Pogo pins on the side), but I always had to remove the case and eventually the first case was showing signs of damage from being removed so often.
My hope is that the base platform of the dock I want to build will be compatible with multiple models of smartphones and tablets that are Qi capable. That'll require a lot more planning, but may be worth it.
lorddralnu said:
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My hope is that the base platform of the dock I want to build will be compatible with multiple models of smartphones and tablets that are Qi capable. That'll require a lot more planning, but may be worth it.
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Well if you're set on the route you've described; ... I see you've picked up on the Peltier pump in another thread. Credit me somewhere if you make it!
But I might consider an approach made by Philips in an Android Bluetooth Speaker and dock. The adjustment for USB and its placement on an edge, plus 180 degree rotation needed for some models, was catered for physically. A much cheaper approach which copes with tablets and phones!
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Well if you're set on the route you've described; ... I see you've picked up on the Peltier pump in another thread. Credit me somewhere if you make it!
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I think I will use a Peltier pump. And yes, I'll make sure you get credit for that idea I'll mount the transmitting coil onto the cold side (probably with a layer of copper in between, we'll try several things) and have the hot side of the pump mounted to the aluminum/sheet metal of the back plate (probably with thermal paste as well). I'll have the pump on a simple thermostat. Good thing I have an EE helping me with this project
Hopefully the final product won't need a Peltier pump, but I will definitely have it in the prototype.
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But I might consider an approach made by Philips in an Android Bluetooth Speaker and dock. The adjustment for USB and its placement on an edge, plus 180 degree rotation needed for some models, was catered for physically. A much cheaper approach which copes with tablets and phones!
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I haven't had very good experiences with using that type of dock The results of daily use tend to be USB ports that are stretched and loose. At least that's how it has been in my experience.
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I'll mount the transmitting coil onto the cold side (probably with a layer of copper in between, we'll try several things) and have the hot side of the pump mounted to the aluminum/sheet metal of the back plate (probably with thermal paste as well). I'll have the pump on a simple thermostat. Good thing I have an EE helping me with this project
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Don't forget to talk to your EE about eddy current loses in any conductors (copper, aluminium) you have nearby to your induction coil.
Interesting read, but with the cooler this is going to be a very expensive dock. Without it, look to Canada for your market.
I rigged up one for my Nexus 4 last Winter. Based on some testing, I used the most efficient charger I could find for that phone (the LG wcp-700). It worked very well... until late spring when the mercury broke 70. To make a long story short, I pulled it last month as the phone was getting too hot. This in a suv with a 4 liter v6 with plenty of air conditioning, front and rear.
Without the cooler, the tablet needs to be located directly in front of a vent, or even in moderate climates the unit will get hot enough to significantly reduce charging current.
One more thing to consider... the Nexus 7 is polarized vertically. This means that it is invisible in landscape orientation for anyone wearing polarized driving glasses, which I am willing to bet is a large percentage of your prospective market (tech savvy, auto enthusiasts). Most displays designed for vehicles are polarized at 45°, making this not such an issue.
While the tinkerer, software developer, and electronic geek in me wanted a fully integrated tablet in my truck, I soon came to the conclusion that it was simply not practical. What is really needed is a properly done appRadio, where a head unit can mirror the display of a mobile device (ideally wirelessly - miracast, etc.) with a control link set up to pass touches on the head unit back to the mobile device. We're about 30% there now, but a lack of standards, and major players wanting proprietary solutions is a problem.
I wish you much success with your endeavor, but just wanted to share my experience and feelings that this will not be all that marketable a product.
The problems you had with the nexus 4 does not necessarily effect the nexus 7. The nexus 4 was pretty terrible at wireless charging. I had a car setup with a qi charger with the lumia 920 and it worked great even in hot weather. I am not saying the nexus 7 will work, but it might.
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The nexus 4 was pretty terrible at wireless charging.
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What makes you say that? I ask as I have seen relatively similar performance with both the N7 and N4. The tricky thing about the N4 is that the coil is not centered in the vertical dimension, so for folks making the assumption that it is, there will be quite a bit of offset.
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What makes you say that? I ask as I have seen relatively similar performance with both the N7 and N4. The tricky thing about the N4 is that the coil is not centered in the vertical dimension, so for folks making the assumption that it is, there will be quite a bit of offset.
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I say that because of all the issues people had with car docks. It also had issues with the dt-900 qi chargers when it shouldn't have. It heated up excessively with most chargers.
I wonder if there will be an Official dock that lets you:
1. Charge
2. Expand TV HDMI out
3. USB port for Hard drive access
I really want the Nexus & FHD to be a Home entertainment player...may be a remote/ Or Kinect like gesture control app built in with the dock
Hope this comes true...it will be the best Combo for a home unit!
Hi,
so soon my nexus will be here and after over 6 years with iPhone I'm moving to try android.
one think i always loved about my iphone is the docking station, makes life better and easier.
now with the iphone its very easy to find docking station that fit 100% right, and then i dont have to worry about damage to the charging port, the phone is held up very tight and i never had any problem.
on the android camp its harder to find phone specific accessories so heres what i manage to find:
im looking for a cheap solution but can pay a little more if its really worth it
cheap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-D...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2ecab22c6d
expensive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-M...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item43c158ab0c
the expensive one at least comes with a cable, and heres a video i found that shows that this product might be a better choice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTyGmNTh6iA
i just dont want the device to wobble freely hanging only by the usb connector.
i also hear that micro usb is much weaker then apple connectors so im a bit worried.
any1 have any experince with such products? what do u think? am i risking damage to my usb port? thanks.
yossi_s1 said:
am i risking damage to my usb port? thanks.
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IMHO ... yes, you are risking damaging the port. I personally wouldn't even consider using one as I've gone through a bunch of phones that the Micro-USB eventually stopped working properly. The Nexus one was notorious for that problem as have been quite a few other devices. Micro-USB just doesn't hold up over time.
Now, back to your problem. One thing the Nexus 5 has over the iPhone is Qi Wireless charging. So, might I suggest stop thinking in terms of how you would plugin in your iPhone to charge it, and to sync it with iTunes. All of this can be done using apps that sync wirelessly (iSyncr etc) and a good Qi charger.
Here's a good starting point for a "dock" like standing position while your N5 charges:
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-DT910-Wireless-Charging-Stand/dp/B00A3NCC8M
It's important for you to note the orientation of the Micro USB port on the phone. On nexus devices reversed compared to the samsung phones those docks are for. I own the dock on the first link. It will not work with the Nexus.
You need one that's pin-side facing you. Unless you want the phone facing away from you
It's an annoying aspect of the Micro USB standard -- when it comes to direction, there is no standard.
DIY: Not ideal because it doesn't LOOK great but does WORK great. I bought the dock from that first link for my S3 and because of its 'universal'ness it was extremely wobbly, putting much undue strain on the port. I stuck a couple wads of Sugru down on the dock and behind the connector (where the phones back would rest) and stuck my phone in. When it dried after 30 minutes I had a perfect custom fit. Looked like **** though. Function over form in this case.
scirio said:
It's important for you to note the orientation of the Micro USB port on the phone. On nexus devices reversed compared to the samsung phones those docks are for. I own the dock on the first link. It will not work with the Nexus.
You need one that's pin-side facing you. Unless you want the phone facing away from you
It's an annoying aspect of the Micro USB standard -- when it comes to direction, there is no standard.
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this...
but this is also a relatively new thing as the Nexus 4 was the "standard" way that everyone is used to (small side up where the Nexus 5 flipped it to small side down)
For charging, I would recomend the Google's wireless charger: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Wireless_Charger?id=nexus_wireless_charger. As for syncing, what kind of things are you going to sync from your computer to your phone? On the android side the majority of things can/are synced over wifi or cloud services.
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Thanks for all the answers...
I didn't think about orientation lol, i forgot about this issue.. so docking stations seems meh ATM
about wireless chargers... quite expensive IMO and i always fear that since the phone is not being held tightly it might fall and break.
i put my phone on a nightstand near my bed so accidents in the dark could happen, and i also like it when the phone is standing so i can see the screen without picking it up.
so that limits the range of wireless chargers i can use.
syncing is not a problem btw.
good thing i asked here.. i almost bought one of those. i guess ill try to find wireless one that suites me.
thanks again!
yossi_s1 said:
Thanks for all the answers...
I didn't think about orientation lol, i forgot about this issue.. so docking stations seems meh ATM
about wireless chargers... quite expensive IMO and i always fear that since the phone is not being held tightly it might fall and break.
i put my phone on a nightstand near my bed so accidents in the dark could happen, and i also like it when the phone is standing so i can see the screen without picking it up.
so that limits the range of wireless chargers i can use.
syncing is not a problem btw.
good thing i asked here.. i almost bought one of those. i guess ill try to find wireless one that suites me.
thanks again!
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Google is your friend as usual, Kidigi are about to launch a Nexus 5 specific dock which is more substantial than the one you were looking at.