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[Q] AOKP or CM9 kang?

Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?

each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?

Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.

aokp
difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.

On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.

hondaboi20002 said:
Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.

Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks

Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?

azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.

azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.

Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?

azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks

Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?

azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.

Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.

azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.

AOKP Milestone 6 VS Liquidsmooth V1.5

Hey guys. I'll be flashing a new rom soon, and I wanted to get your opinions on which of these roms to flash. I've been using Liquidsmooth V1.4 but with Jelly Bean I'm considering flashing a new rom.
I tried AOKP when it was still ICS and I decided to switch to Liquidsmooth because it has all the same features that I use and the rom file is smaller so the battery life it better. Battery life is one of my main concerns so it will be one of the main deciding factors for my rom of choice. Please help me make my decision, and only comment if you have actually used both roms in one of their more recent forms.
Also, please include your kernel, and other info you feel is important enough to include. Thanks

Wrong section buddy. Development only in this section.
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There are many threads on what ROM. Use the search feature and why are you still flashing ICS-based ROMs? Jelly Bean is out....
CM10 is probably the most feature riched ROM for JB. Thread also doesn't belong in this forum.

Liquid is one of the stupidest roms out there. They've hacked together so many features from different roms and they've done a sloppy job. Switching the icons of the notification powerwidgets doesn't work when you try from the menu (the option is there, it doesn't do anything - that's why I consider it sloppy - there are buttons that are supposed to "do something" but don't do anything.)
Also, they just took Trebuchet launcher of CM9 and just renamed it to Liquid Launcher. I know it's open source but it's still theft, isn't it?
AOKP is also a rom focusing more on features than stability.
I'd suggest you try CM9 - I found it a lot smoother than AOKP and the rom is consistent and works.
Also... wrong subforum - this **** goes to QA or general, not here.

sherincal said:
Liquid is one of the stupidest roms out there. They've hacked together so many features from different roms and they've done a sloppy job. Switching the icons of the notification powerwidgets doesn't work when you try from the menu (the option is there, it doesn't do anything - that's why I consider it sloppy - there are buttons that are supposed to "do something" but don't do anything.)
Also, they just took Trebuchet launcher of CM9 and just renamed it to Liquid Launcher. I know it's open source but it's still theft, isn't it?
AOKP is also a rom focusing more on features than stability.
I'd suggest you try CM9 - I found it a lot smoother than AOKP and the rom is consistent and works.
Also... wrong subforum - this **** goes to QA or general, not here.
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They did the same thing for rom control and renamed it to liquid control.
Wow they really renamed it to liquid launcher? I mean yeah its open source but at least give credit where it's due and not rename a app and put liquid on it.
+1 for cm9. Although like what I said, take a look at a jelly bean roms. Particularly cm10 its really smooth
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READ FORUM RULES AND STICKIES BEFORE POSTING
This does NOT belong in development
YOU are not developing anything here
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I moved from Liquid to AOKP M6 and they're both great.
M6 has given me insane battery life and an awesome balance between features/stability.
Use the 3.1.9.9 Jame Bond kernel and I promise it'l be worth it.

Switch Cm 10.1 to TW rom?

Hey everybody! I did a search before posting this and couldn't find an answer so here is my question...
I was thinking of switching over to a TW rom but I don't really know what the main difference is in terms of features and bugs. Also, what is everything I need to do to switch over?
I am running Beanstalk which I believe is CM10.1 based.
Thanks for the help!

features are basically what the new rom includes and bugs are small problems that may be being worked on.
Flowed Away From My Samsung E4GT!

Thanks for the reply but I'm trying to compare the features of those types of roms with what I have

well of course some(awesome) features included in cm10.1 will not be able in tw, preferably cm10.1 has many more features than any tw rom, the themeing ability and the new privacy guard.
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Apkbuccsfan said:
Hey everybody! I did a search before posting this and couldn't find an answer so here is my question...
I was thinking of switching over to a TW rom but I don't really know what the main difference is in terms of features and bugs. Also, what is everything I need to do to switch over?
I am running Beanstalk which I believe is CM10.1 based.
Thanks for the help!
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I would read through the rom op and decide which one appeals to you. As for asking about the differences. Nobody can answer that man because they are all different...they are after all custom roms..But just look around and when you find one you like...Follow the op.I would think you would benefit from reading through the stickies and some guides also. There is a great amount of knowledge to be had in this forum...Good Luck. and use that search button..

are there any TW roms that give us the quick reply like in CM for messaging?

Rom question or suggestion

Is there a rom that isnt touchwiz based like cm10.2 or paranoid but that supports apps 2sdcard? i love little minions rom but i really just love aosp roms i just would like to see apps 2sd card support! any Roms like that available?

Several are available. Check the Android Developers thread the TMobile Samsung Galaxy S4 section.
This is just 1 example of the several there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337709
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soccerdude612 said:
Is there a rom that isnt touchwiz based like cm10.2 or paranoid but that supports apps 2sdcard? i love little minions rom but i really just love aosp roms i just would like to see apps 2sd card support! any Roms like that available?
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You are going to have to do this research yourself. Threads like this which inevitably turn into "Which rom is best" discussions are not permitted on XDA.
Spend the time to read through all of the descriptions of available roms in the dev section. Try a bunch of them out to find one that is right for you. You will learn A TON in this process and it's a great experience.
Getting other people to simply telly ou which rom to use will not help you learn anything.

Which CM build do you prefer? ARTER97'S or Sultanxda or PureCM

So guys, what dou think which one do you prefer and why ?
Would be awesome to read some reviews. I really interested which one everyone likes?
Cause i dont know how to edit the pool, you cann vote here for all cm editions you can found or you have tested on the oneplus three.
There are PureCM, Sultanxda CM, Arter97s CM and so on ... If i miss some edition, just write it down and tell me why its good for you

@ZeNiXxX are you able to edit the poll and add "Pure CM" ?
That is the third most interesting "near stock CM" ROM that I'm following because it has just little modifications from official CM (some kernel tweaks and a couple of useful features added, plus built-in root).
With all due respect I find that custom ROMs like Resurrection Remix or PAC go a bit overboard on merging every possible feature.
Not that there is anything wrong with them as long as they keep stability, but the feeling is that those ROMs are bloated with features that I'd not use anyway.
Ah, and for sensible people complaining for this thread: come on, there's nothing wrong to prefer one ROM over another, it's just a matter of personal taste and of features / tweaks added by individual developers.
Why would anyone be offended if I prefer a Mercedes over a BMW, for instance?!?

I have nothing against other roms, but I would suggest to add all CM based roms (including stock cm) into the poll.
Why leave out others?

Giocarro said:
@ZeNiXxX are you able to edit the poll and add "Pure CM" ?
That is the third most interesting "near stock CM" ROM that I'm following because it has just little modifications from official CM (some kernel tweaks and a couple of useful features added, plus built-in root).
With all due respect I find that custom ROMs like Resurrection Remix or PAC go a bit overboard on merging every possible feature.
Not that there is anything wrong with them as long as they keep stability, but the feeling is that those ROMs are bloated with features that I'd not use anyway.
Ah, and for sensible people complaining for this thread: come on, there's nothing wrong to prefer one ROM over another, it's just a matter of personal taste and of features / tweaks added by individual developers.
Why would anyone be offended if I prefer a Mercedes over a BMW, for instance?!?
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AcmE85 said:
I have nothing against other roms, but I would suggest to add all CM based roms (including stock cm) into the poll.
Why leave out others?
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i thought that are the most favourite cm roms here. I'm trying to add the other to, did someone know how to edit the pool ?

Personnaly, I tested out sultan and official CM and I prefer official CM cause more updates, more follow-up, and the SuperSU is integrated so I can use some old Xposed apps that used system root and yet still use the latest version of SuperSu systemless
Sultan ROM is great but not enough updates for me, I'm like a flashoholic. The greatest thing that we can do is merge sultan stuff for the camera in the official CM ROM in order to increase the quality.
For the other ROMs, I find that they bring on too many features and they are really hard to understand sometimes, especially where the features are, etc...

Sultan

arter97 with the kernel. Amazing speed and battery life.

@ZeNiXxX, unlike your previous thread this is good title favoring discussion

None of the above roms i prefer Pure CM and jgcaap's rom. The reason is the great performance stabillity and battery life.

PURE CM

Neither. How about stock.
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Stock? Nahh