I'd like to vent:
Battery life went to absolute s#!+.
The phones keyboard lags horribly
And I really hate the fake 4g it's doing.
I'm in a 3g only area, it shows 4g, down [email protected] .12 mb, and that's lucky.
I want my old 4.2 back. I HONESTLY like "some"of the updates.
But really, it's agitating me to where I'm upset.
I used to get through my day, get home and have 50-70% Leff, I'm lucky to have above 30%. I've tried airplane mode at work, I've tired turning everything off, I've done what I did on phones that wouldn't last 6 hours. I even forked out for a new battery cause Sprint said so.
My battery is better than the new one.
I'm stock, no root, nothing special. Haven't changed anything but I git the update.
I've read where people saw improved battery life, and faster speed...but I've experienced the exact opposite.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Please help, I could care less about bells and whistles,I want my juice back.
Nothing is showing up as the reason for the draw!
I'm not new, I've owned three if these phone due to stupid failures. I've averaged a new phone once every six months....and not through tep, but phone failure.
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I would recommend backing up all your SD Card contents that you want saved, especially the DCIM folder (pictures). Then get an app called Helium by ClockworkMod, and run the PC software with your phone hooked up, to enable a backup of all your user apps-messages-call logs-launcher layout. Then copy the Helium/Carbon backup folder to your PC. Then do a Factory Data Reset. I've heard of and known people that took an OTA update that were furious that their phone performance went backwards, but after a Reset all was fine.
Just my 2¢, but I think it will fix the problems.
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Yeah definitely try a factory reset I unrooted and took the update and it's actually quite nice smooth but not as fast as a custom kernel but battery life vastly improved. Lol if I turned on airplane mode it would probably last a week or more
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Charging is slow and no note 3 stuff
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I get my hands on quite a few phones where I work at (a cell phone shop) and I don't mean to sound like an ass but maybe you've junked up your phone? I've had people come in crying about how slow their phone is when they have a million apps, enough porn to take up all the internal memory and 10 things running in the background hogging up RAM. If you do a reset/data wipe and it runs to your satisfaction, scale down on the play store app frenzy. Just because you have access to a lot of things doesn't mean you should get everything you can. Just my .02!
Also charging has always been slow on every Note 2 I've had my hands on. Probably has something to do with the gigantic battery. Note 3? Same way IMO (again chalked up to the bigger battery. Think about it, more cells, same charger, more time required to recharge those cells)
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Yea I have to agree with some of the others on here, I think it may be some apps or settings you have on your phone causing problems. I did the full install from lorjay that is deodexed rooted and I have to say that compared to 4.1 this is a HUGE step in performance for me, most notably in the modem. I was at my sisters for thanksgiving the other day and had 4g everywhere in her house where normally I am constantly switching between 3g/4g, and even better yet it was usable 4g! Phone itself is CRAZY smooth, love the fact that the bars now show data signal when on 4g, and I love all the other little UI changes that were made as well. The only 2 things I have noticed negative since 4.1 is that the battery life MAY be just a tad bit less than before. Granted it has only been a few days I have been using this, but i have noticed a little bit of a drop, nothing to write home (or to samsung) about. The BIG issue that I have noticed that is driving me crazy is that the home/lock buttons seem to not respond very well (if at all) sometimes. I am sure I will figure this issue out soon enough however.
Do a nandroid, then factory reset, and before installing any apps at all, try the phone out for a bit and see if your problems are all still there.
Good luck!
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Charging is slow and no note 3 stuff
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My battery died over night...which is fine it was 12 % when I got home.....here's the thing I plugged it in and left it to charge for about 20 min this morning then turned it on and checked galaxy current and it reported 466....unplugged and replugged a few times ...still 466.....now 7 hours later the phone is only at 89%....checked battery status still showed as usb charging @466...unplugged ..replugged now it's at 1698
this was all with the 2amp factory wall charger. My guess is that mandatory SLOW charge gets initiated when battery is below a certain level and for whatever reason doesn't automatically switch back to AC mode ever unless you unplug and replug.
I have to pay more attention to when AC or USB charging is taking place, see if it is actually based on the current battery charge at the time it's plugged in.
ecs87 said:
I get my hands on quite a few phones where I work at (a cell phone shop) and I don't mean to sound like an ass but maybe you've junked up your phone? I've had people come in crying about how slow their phone is when they have a million apps, enough porn to take up all the internal memory and 10 things running in the background hogging up RAM. If you do a reset/data wipe and it runs to your satisfaction, scale down on the play store app frenzy. Just because you have access to a lot of things doesn't mean you should get everything you can. Just my .02!
Also charging has always been slow on every Note 2 I've had my hands on. Probably has something to do with the gigantic battery. Note 3? Same way IMO (again chalked up to the bigger battery. Think about it, more cells, same charger, more time required to recharge those cells)
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Slow charging has nothing to do with the battery size.
The stock firmwares from Samsung intentionally brick the 2Ampere stock charger via software limiter into charging only around 500mA. Note3 users have been happy about charge speeds at stock because Samsung has chosen to cease gimping their chargers with a software charging limiter in the newer devices.
When I was using an AOSP rom, the first time I plugged the charger it did not charge at all but when I unplugged and replugged it charged normally. This happed happened on my Galaxy player too with PAC rom. After a few days it charged normally. So maybe the battery is recalibrating? for the new ROM installation.
Edit: Everything is indeed smoother and quicker but there are times when things get loaded so fast that lags slightly after. It could be the Knox files or whatever. AnTuTu went up by 2000 points. (Stock rom, 19000 to 21000)
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Guess if it ain't broke, don't fix. Still on 4.1.2 and everything works just fine, battery life, tether, etc. Obviously would like to be on the most current version but all this Knox stuff and etc just make it unattractive in my opinion and i really don't see what 4.3 brings that's radical.
Look through your battery usage and see what's killing battery or download BetterBatteryStats to see exactly what is causing the drain. I had serious drain when I took the 4.3 update but I figured out my cause. Since I had factory reset to take the update when setting up the phone all over again I chose that stupid allow apps to get location while Wi-Fi off. Thing is battery hungry
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LordLugard said:
Guess if it ain't broke, don't fix. Still on 4.1.2 and everything works just fine, battery life, tether, etc. Obviously would like to be on the most current version but all this Knox stuff and etc just make it unattractive in my opinion and i really don't see what 4.3 brings that's radical.
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don't be fooled....there already are 2 full 4.3 roms with NO KNOX in them that are flashable like any other rom except the need to odin the wifi fix....4.3 is running just fine on my phone, overall improvement
I hear it's Google Play Services that are to blame for battery life. That's what most of the reviews of it are saying after users grabbed an Android version update. Direct link to our issue with Note 2 maybe?
Formating the SD card also helps because the new Android version will no longer be picking through old files from an older Android installation or files that weren't correctly overwritten with the same filenames or paths. Also gets rid of old app data so 4.3 apps aren't trying to do the same thing with 4.1 data. .. All this assuming your SD card hadn't been manually partitioned by the Android version you're going to (e.g. 4.4 and sdcard/0).
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Skripka said:
Slow charging has nothing to do with the battery size.
The stock firmwares from Samsung intentionally brick the 2Ampere stock charger via software limiter into charging only around 500mA. Note3 users have been happy about charge speeds at stock because Samsung has chosen to cease gimping their chargers with a software charging limiter in the newer devices.
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I'd think a bigger battery (Note 2 or 3) would take longer to charge than a smaller battery (say from a S2) given the same exact charger being used to charge both devices? Meh.
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I'd think a bigger battery (Note 2 or 3) would take longer to charge than a smaller battery (say from a S2) given the same exact charger being used to charge both devices? Meh.
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Apples to apples, yes. As I said, it is not apples to apples.
For the exact reason I posted. Sammy software throttles the "2A" chargers back to 0.5A in the kernel on older handsets. Only with Note3 did they release the throttle clamp and allow full speed chargin of the charger at stock.
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Apples to apples, yes. As I said, it is not apples to apples.
For the exact reason I posted. Sammy software throttles the "2A" chargers back to 0.5A in the kernel on older handsets. Only with Note3 did they release the throttle clamp and allow full speed chargin of the charger at stock.
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Is this something that a dev can do for our Note 2's?
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Is this something that a dev can do for our Note 2's?
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Yes it's a very simple kernel adjustment. Jellybombed had it built in. I think you can download an app for rooted handsets. I think it's called STweak? (Please correct if wrong). I'm sure there are others too.
But it's VERY IMPORTANT you know what you're doing or you can very easily fry a chip or more with the wrong voltage settings.
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LordLugard said:
Guess if it ain't broke, don't fix. Still on 4.1.2 and everything works just fine, battery life, tether, etc. Obviously would like to be on the most current version but all this Knox stuff and etc just make it unattractive in my opinion and i really don't see what 4.3 brings that's radical.
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I'm with you. When I used my Galaxy Nexus, I always had to have the latest and greatest rom (it had 4.3 months ago and was buggy on even that phone) but I am more than satisfied with digiblur's de-bloated 4.1.2
It seems that Samsung really screwed this update and introduced more problems than new features. I'm sticking with my rooted 4.1.2 rom until this Samsung disaster is cleaned up by the great xda dev community.
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I am rooted but still running stock 4.3 rom and stock kernel. Everything is good here. Battery is about the same if not just a little better. I would do a reset. I usually just back up my pics and reset. I don't fool with backing up apps and data stuff. Figure I am better starting from scratch then downloading things one at a time to see if it happens again. Then I know what caused it.
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I know this is supposed to be complaint thread, but I thought I'd chime in with my experience. I was running rooted MC2 based DigiBlur (which is a heavily de-bloated, moderately tweaked, but otherwise stock-ish ROM). I'm now running Lorjay589's KNOX-free MK4 which is a rather stock-ish ROM (other than root and no KNOX), and it's actually performing better than any MC2 ROM I've tried, including stock rooted MC2. I think the key was in order to flash MK4 I had to wipe everything, basically starting over. I restored only 3rd-party apps/data (no system data) with TB, and I have absolutely no complaints.
So, although encountering post MK4 OTA problems could be for a variety of reasons, the easiest solution to try is a factory reset. Basically, it can't hurt and it may solve the issues.
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Is there an app or way that conserves the battery power. The phone is still completely stock but it received a firmware update through Tmobile and ever since then the battery gets drained by 4 pm (after all apps are x-ed out and phone is just in standby) the batter drops to around 30 percent... what can I do? I don't think it needs a new battery since its only a few months old... suggestions?
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Is there an app or way that conserves the battery power. The phone is still completely stock but it received a firmware update through Tmobile and ever since then the battery gets drained by 4 pm (after all apps are x-ed out and phone is just in standby) the batter drops to around 30 percent... what can I do? I don't think it needs a new battery since its only a few months old... suggestions?
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I dont know how much you use your phone and weather or not you watch movies or download files with Wi-Fi alot but it could seriously drain your battery if you leave things like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, Brightness Up, or use live wallpapers.
If not, I would recommend checking your battery against someone elses because I've had a phone before that had a bad battery that could explode and caused me to have battery issues. Make sure your battery isnt swollen at all and if it is make sure you take it out and dont put it back in and go to a Battery+ store nearby and I'm sure they got one for your phone (they come with warranty).
Well my wife and I have the same phone and it does it to both. I don't have signal in my job since they have a Verizon antenna and it blocks our t mobile signal so I don't use it during the day which means the phone is just on stand by for the first eight hours. I make sure I turn off wifi, blue tooth, GPS etc and close all apps....but by the time I get out of work it's at 30-40% power.... both phones were bought this April so was hoping it wasn't/isn't a hardware issue and have to replace the batteries....
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This is where the world of rooting and tweaking your android becomes extremely attractive.
There are ROMs that last 1 day + ( that's 24h+ hours of battery)
Only need two things....
1. Patience - to sit, read and closely follow instructions
2. Guts - to take a dive and risk ruining your phone. (Which doesn't happen if you have number 1)
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thanks for the reply. Yeah I've been thinking about doing such things, but am a complete noob. Is there a link to a tutorial (from start to finish) on rooting/flashing custom rom in here? All I see is one or two step threads or discussions on different roms?
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thanks for the reply. Yeah I've been thinking about doing such things, but am a complete noob. Is there a link to a tutorial (from start to finish) on rooting/flashing custom rom in here? All I see is one or two step threads or discussions on different roms?
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Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650908
Or this ( more thorough and noobish)
http://theunlockr.com/2011/12/01/how-to-root-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-all-versions/
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1. juice defender is a start.
The rest all needs rooting really.
2. Build.prop tweaks
3. UV with a custom kernel
4. Lowest screen brightness (doesn't require root)
5. Restrict yourself to 2G networks either using AOKP settings or a build.prop tweak
There are others but this is how I achieve great battery times mostly.
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TheLastSidekick said:
1. juice defender is a start.
The rest all needs rooting really.
2. Build.prop tweaks
3. UV with a custom kernel
4. Lowest screen brightness (doesn't require root)
5. Restrict yourself to 2G networks either using AOKP settings or a build.prop tweak
There are others but this is how I achieve great battery times mostly.
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Thanks for the info:thumbup:
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Thanks for the info:thumbup:
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Why not try and find out what is using your battery up first? Try GSAM from the play store, its free for one, easy to use, it will show you what is draining your battery, there are a few paid ones as well, but try the free first , HERE is the direct link to GSAM.
or QR code, just scan it with phone.
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Well my wife and I have the same phone and it does it to both. I don't have signal in my job since they have a Verizon antenna and it blocks our t mobile signal so I don't use it during the day which means the phone is just on stand by for the first eight hours. I make sure I turn off wifi, blue tooth, GPS etc and close all apps....but by the time I get out of work it's at 30-40% power.... both phones were bought this April so was hoping it wasn't/isn't a hardware issue and have to replace the batteries....
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That is a very weird situation and try a app that shows the apps using battery. Even check the stock android battery section in settings and see whats getting used. Your brightness should be first since it can really eat your battery if its turned up. I dont think its defective since both your phones are having the same problem but both my parents have the 4.0.4 firmware installed on their T989's without a problem and get decent battery power. I however am using a custom rom with kernel. Did you use the same battery for each phone? or each phone has the same problem with their own devices and their own batteries when getting updated to 4.0.4? If you used your battery on her's I'm assuming the problem may be the battery and you just got unlucky with a defective one.
P.S. I'm assuming 4.0.4 because thats the latest update to ICS for the T989 on T-Mobile.
The battery manager that comes with the phone identifies the display, but I've set it to lowest setting and have a dark background. And yeah both phones have their respective batteries which makes me think it's a software issue.. We just upgraded to the 2.3.6 ( I guess t-mobile is a but behind lol). But I going to try the juice defender tomorrow... It's just while I root the phone and get a custom ROM... (doing my homework before doing anything since it'll be first time)
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Those apps wont really help, it basically does what you can do manually, turning off settings or putting them at low usage. Rooting is the way to go, its rather simple, once you do it, you will have wished you done it sooner. Trust me, I was in the same boat, I had just got my phone last december, the wife and I were in Vegas and my battery was horrible, I was taking lots of pictures and video, but my battery was dying. I had no way to charge it til we got back to the hotel, next day was same thing, horrible battery, this was all before ICS even was around for this device. When I got back home, I rooted my phone, to date, I have gotten a best 44 hours out of the phone. I ROM hop so I try out the variety, there is how to's and videos here and youtube, you will kick youself on how easy it truly is to root and flash. GSAM will show you in more detail what is using your battery the most, good luck with whatever you choose to do. There are many people here who can help you along the way, thats what this site is for.
Juice Defender will help a ton with you're screen being off for extended periods of time. Normally without it, I lose 30% at work without touching it. Today, I have lost 6%. The margin won't always be like that but it's a sizeable difference. Also, I have an app monitor application you can use to track rogue apps. There is also this app called Autostarts where you can disable an app from opening and it's really useful for apps that you don't need running in the background. Turning off auto sync will help as well IF you are okay with not getting every email in 5 minutes.
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Believe me I'm the last person who will complain about battery backup or create a topic about it, but yet I'm doing it! Seriously, Samsung helped us to be greedy, with awesome battery backup on 4.1.1 ROM, and now they took it away! It really doesn't matter whether you agree or not, 4.1.2 does drain battery much much faster than 4.1.1 ROM. I mean why? Why on earth you gave us that great backup at first and then took it back?
I really don't wanna go back to to a previous version, but I think I'll ultimately have to do that. Honestly I don't see any improvements in 4.1.2, other than that volume key photo taking option in 4.1.2, and of course that SDS fix.
Anyone from Samsung seeing this? What would you say? Why this sudden change of mind? Have any answers to that?
This is what I/we used to get in 4.1.1,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35526794&postcount=920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33679782&postcount=304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32749185&postcount=123
And what is 4.1.2 doing? Well look at the ****ing screenshots and compare. So some tick tack goodies and SDS fix costs almost 3 hours screen on time?
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jujuburi said:
Believe me I'm the last person who will complain about battery backup or create a topic about it, but yet I'm doing it! Seriously, Samsung helped us to be greedy, with awesome battery backup on 4.1.1 ROM, and now they took it away! It really doesn't matter whether you agree or not, 4.1.2 does drain battery much much faster than 4.1.1 ROM. I mean why? Why on earth you gave us that great backup at first and then took it back?
I really don't wanna go back to to a previous version, but I think I'll ultimately have to do that. Honestly I don't see any improvements in 4.1.2, other than that volume key photo taking option in 4.1.2, and of course that SDS fix.
Anyone from Samsung seeing this? What would you say? Why this sudden change of mind? Have any answers to that?
This is what I/we used to get in 4.1.1,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35526794&postcount=920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33679782&postcount=304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32749185&postcount=123
And what is 4.1.2 doing? Well look at the ****ing screenshots and compare. So some tick tack goodies and SDS fix costs almost 3 hours screen on time?
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This has been a massive pain in the ass for a while now. .
9 hours deep sleep and only 1% drain.
Though the screen on time has decreased
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UtkarshGupta said:
9 hours deep sleep and only 1% drain.
Though the screen on time has decreased
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Would ask you what rom but I've got lte anyway so won't help much.
Wanam2.8 and perseus32.1
Kernel is available for lte and rom is not modified much so you can figure out.
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Dude, you're complaining with 1d 19h runtime and 6h screen on? I could never, ever get that out of my N2, no matter what version, kernel, tweak or what not... There seems to be a huge manufacturing tolerance in quality of battery or whatever else. So I just simply stopped worrying about it, charging the thing overnight and just got 2 spare batteries & additional charger for € 20. My peace of mind is worth that
Why don't you want to go back to 4.1.1 if the update has hardly brought any improvement?
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Dude, you're complaining with 1d 19h runtime and 6h screen on? I could never, ever get that out of my N2, no matter what version, kernel, tweak or what not... There seems to be a huge manufacturing tolerance in quality of battery or whatever else. So I just simply stopped worrying about it, charging the thing overnight and just got 2 spare batteries & additional charger for € 20. My peace of mind is worth that
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Not being funny but knowing that you're getting much less battery after the update does play on the mind and it is clearly a software issue which we shouldn't have to endure.
Unlike many on here, the one and only reason I got the note over the s3 was battery life. I would rather much save a couple hundred and have a more comfortable phone to hold in the s3 if I knew the battery life would get messed uo after a software update.
I also don't want to carry seperate batteries around and swap out. If I did, I would have stuck with HTC to be honest.
I just want the immense battery life of 4.1.1 back but without sacrificing new features like the browser text reflow.
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Dude, you're complaining with 1d 19h runtime and 6h screen on? I could never, ever get that out of my N2, no matter what version, kernel, tweak or what not... There seems to be a huge manufacturing tolerance in quality of battery or whatever else. So I just simply stopped worrying about it, charging the thing overnight and just got 2 spare batteries & additional charger for € 20. My peace of mind is worth that
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Well when I compare battery life I do it with my own results. It's completely invalid to compare one's backup with others as usage pattern is different most times.
So, on 4.1.1 I got 9 hours screen on time, half dozen times, on 4.1.2 it touched 8 hours once! This is just bad.
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Why don't you want to go back to 4.1.1 if the update has hardly brought any improvement?
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I'm sure you know there is a bug called eMMC!
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Not being funny but knowing that you're getting much less battery after the update does play on the mind and it is clearly a software issue which we shouldn't have to endure.
Unlike many on here, the one and only reason I got the note over the s3 was battery life. I would rather much save a couple hundred and have a more comfortable phone to hold in the s3 if I knew the battery life would get messed uo after a software update.
I also don't want to carry seperate batteries around and swap out. If I did, I would have stuck with HTC to be honest.
I just want the immense battery life of 4.1.1 back but without sacrificing new features like the browser text reflow.
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Totally and completely agree with you, and that was my point.
Either this is a game by Samsung, to level down us to S3 users, or they are simply unable or ignorant to maintain the continuity of a good thing.
The thing is, technically Note 2's battery backup was right, because on S2 we used to have 4 to 4½ hours screen on time, and that was a 1650 mAh battery, so it's almost doubled on Note 2, so it's basically normal to have 8 hours screen on, nothing ultra ordinary I'd say, but I can say what we are getting now is just BAD.
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I have to agree completely with OP. I have been only using the stock samsung roms & i too find the battery life to be worse on 4.1.2 XXDMB2 (by approx. 10-15 %) compared to 4.1.1 roms. Although, i like everything else about the latest 4.1.2 better .
I can't possibly be the first one to create a thread about this. Yet I have been searching and can't find it. So here I go.
I obviously have a T-mobile GS3 T-999. I was on stock unrooted 4.1.1 just fine with great battery life. I updated to 4.1.2 stock unrooted and now my battery life is terrible. I can't even come close to lasting all day like I could before. My habits haven't changed. I haven't installed anything else since they update. I have rebooted and power cycled several times, no change.
Anyone else have a reduction in battery life since upgrading to 4.1.2? Is there anything I can do without going beyond the usual? I have been using power save mode since I bought the phone. So it was that way before and after the update.
Rooting and flashing a custom Rom will increase battery life tremendously. If you don't want to root then disable all the bloat ware. This will speed up phone and increase battery.
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Haven't been able to get awesome battery life on my end either. Played with all kernels available even going backwards to kernels I know gave good life on 4.1.1... Something internal is causing it, it seems. I don't get wake locks that I don't cause my self, just battery drops faster now compared to what it did before.
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I suspect that the premium suite, which added multi window and a bunch of new apps and features, is probably causing the increased battery usage. With the increasing amount of bloat Samsung is stuffing into their ROMs, decreased battery life is expected.
The life on 4.1.2 is terrible over all not sure why best bet would be routing flashing a custom rom or you could try playing with kernels but those are tricky business. I feel 4.1.1 Roms get the best battery though I'm on 4.2 and not very good battery life on that either
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I flashed a number of 4.1.2 roms and found out that for some reason the cpu stays at the max clock constantly. No clue why.. Maybe that's the issue?
Doesn't matter to me at the end since I got a lemon
Yeah I'm not really liking it much. I would do better on 4.1.1
These are my results on Stockorama v2. Stock Kernel.
I don't think it's that bad but I wish it was better.
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Yeah I'm not really liking it much. I would do better on 4.1.1
These are my results on Stockorama v2. Stock Kernel.
I don't think it's that bad but I wish it was better.
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That's actually quite good compared to what I get with the latest CM 10.1 nightly.
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That's actually quite good compared to what I get with the latest CM 10.1 nightly.
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That's terrible on both accounts lol. I usually get 18 hours with that battery time. I remove all the bloat I mean all of it. I have maybe 20 apps total in my app drawer, I disable all the sync besides contacts, gmail, and calender. But still have drain. On stock kernel it was bad and deep sleep was hardly achieved with no apps running in the back ground. I'm gonna Odin root66 md5, tomorrow and see if it helps. Other then that I'm going back to 4.1.1. I'll report back tomorrow or Friday with results.
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Well, I don't plan on rooting or using a custom rom any time soon. But I am hoping to find out what I can tweak to get my battery life back to what it was. I am guessing I don't have the option to go back to 4.1.2 using Kies. And I hear that 4.2 has poor battery life as well, so now I don't have that to look forward too either.
I'm on Stockorama V1 and still had 50% battery when I went to bed this morning (I work nights). The first day after I flashed it the battery was pretty bad, mostly due to wake locks from the Media Server, but that was an easy fix with an app from the Market. I would actually say my battery life is a little bit better now than it was on 4.1.1.
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I don't know if Sammy ever solved it, but iwith past updates the media scanner would hang up and drain batteries quick. Some had their phones heat up.
Another culprit can be that when going to a different android version, it may handle some data differently, causing hang ups when it runs into something they didn't plan for.
In either of these cases, its best to do a full wipe (backup first) and then reinstall your apps. Don't restore them from backup as that's just like not wiping in the first place.
Then wherever possible, import your data through the app itself. Not many do this but some do. Contacts is one.
I know it can be a pain, but it can help a lot. Plus you wind up cleaning out stuff you don't use or need anymore.
I always wipe data when updating , unless its to the same android version (4.1.1 to 4.1.1). Going to 4.1.2 shouldn't be to big a deal, but you never know.
Another thing to try:
If you verify media server/scanner is a oroblem, copy all your music, pics, vids, etc to your computer and wioe it from the phone. Then reboot and wait a few min to see if its acting ok. Then copy your files back, wait a few min and reboot again. Hopefully it'll calm down after this.
Hope that's more helpful than confusing!
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You wonder why carriers take so long to release an update because usually people would start complaining. It's not 4.1 so don't expect the same thing, usually when there's an update things are the never the same. It was the same thing the jump from ics to jelly bean, when creating voltages for batteries I don't think companies anticipate all the extra stuff a update can bring this is still kinda of an ics phone.
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My battery life went up so much. I'm on stock but rooted. I usually drain my battery before the day is over. Now I'm going over a full day.
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I was able to get 32 hours on average with CM 10.1 and KTunez kernel. I recently switched to the Stock latest TW and I'm seeing 22-24 hours with the KTunez kernel. I am rooted and removed all the bloatware.
I'm running stock rooted for now. I hardly have even noticed any battery drain on my phone. Stock Battery, nothing really battery-heavy, no customer kernels. However I dont really see the use of this Sidebar thing. Its like
HAY GUIZ LETS PUT THE UBUNTU UNITY BAR ON ANDROID HUEHUEHUEHUE SO CLEVER!
But in all seriousness, I seem to be running just fine. So I cant really vouch for Multiwindow being the culprit. I may run some tests though.
I don't remember what it was before. But usually by the time I went to bed, it was in the 40's and sometimes the 30's if it was a heavy day for me. Now it drops into the teens.
I see that as of today, the phone has been discharging for just under 4 hours and is already at 88%. And I haven't even used the phone in any way today before checking it right now. Shows "Google Services" as 41% of the battery use. But that only shows CPU total at 33 seconds. Next item is "Device Idle" at 15%. So I don't understand why it's down to 87% in 4 hours of basically doing nothing.
Though I don't think that info alone means anything to me right now as I don't recall what that info was like on 4.1.1, only that my battery % by bedtime is significantly lower than when on 4.1.1
I was just curious how many other Tmobile people experienced the same thing when going from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2. All stock that is.
I don't have time to deal with wiping the phone clean and starting over. But I may try that someday. My phone never gets hot and I never see the CPU getting much use at any given time.
I do wonder about facebook though. I think it also did an update of it's own around the same time I did the 4.1.2 update. I will check into that.
I have found battery life to be about the same, at first it wasn't that great but now I was able to get over 2 days with minimal use 4g on all day. With normal I use I still get better battery life that 4.1.1
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I have found battery life to be about the same, at first it wasn't that great but now I was able to get over 2 days with minimal use 4g on all day. With normal I use I still get better battery life that 4.1.1
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I am confused. So it wasn't good and then it just became good over time? Or have you made some setting changes?
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I am confused. So it wasn't good and then it just became good over time? Or have you made some setting changes?
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Well when I first updated it was stock and battery life didn't seem very good but I've since flashed a custom rom and all is well. Also I think stock rom got better battery with use, maybe had to settle in? But within 3 days of using 4.1.2 my battery was back to normal again.
So I flashed the latest and "greatest" Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus. After all, this is why we get our nexus devices for, right -- getting the latest updates without begging cell phone vendors or carriers. But Android 4.3 on Galaxy Nexus is driving me nuts -- A full charge won't last me for half a day without much usage at all. The phone intermittently wakes up and won't go back to sleep again, and after I press the power button to put it to stand by, it wakes up a few seconds later. Granted, it's not like that all the time, but it's often enough to be annoying and it's eating the battery alive. Before you ask, yes, I did do a clean install with root.
Very frustrated with this update, and come to think of it, the Android updates of late have not been stellar -- I experienced system random restart when 4.2 hits, and now this...
Sorry for the ranting but I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar problems. I googled around and there's an reported issue of Galaxy Nexus battery drain but given the discussion on there I don't think Google is going to dedicate any resource to fixing that.
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?
Maybe battery life is not the best one, but you should let the phone settle some days.
The wakening problem is not 4.3 related. Indeed maybe its a usb port/pin problem.
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Same here. Been downgrade to 4.2.2 after frustrate with 4.3 battery. Full charge at morning and low battery arround 5pm. 4.2.2 with 4.3 features also drain battery alot. Now I'm running on TeamEOS 4.2.2
Turn of mobile and network location in location settings and try it for a day
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Have you narrowed out that it's none of the apps causing issues?
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So I flashed the latest and "greatest" Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus. After all, this is why we get our nexus devices for, right -- getting the latest updates without begging cell phone vendors or carriers. But Android 4.3 on Galaxy Nexus is driving me nuts -- A full charge won't last me for half a day without much usage at all. The phone intermittently wakes up and won't go back to sleep again, and after I press the power button to put it to stand by, it wakes up a few seconds later. Granted, it's not like that all the time, but it's often enough to be annoying and it's eating the battery alive. Before you ask, yes, I did do a clean install with root.
Very frustrated with this update, and come to think of it, the Android updates of late have not been stellar -- I experienced system random restart when 4.2 hits, and now this...
Sorry for the ranting but I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar problems. I googled around and there's an reported issue of Galaxy Nexus battery drain but given the discussion on there I don't think Google is going to dedicate any resource to fixing that.
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?
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As personal experience, much of what you describe did happened to me some time ago and it was cause for some apps that were not optimized for the newer Android API version.
That said, you could try boot into Safe Mode (keep pressed the "Turn Off" at the shutdown screen) and see if keep happening the issues you describe
Use Wakelock Detector app to identify what's draining your battery unusually..
Way ahead of you, I need my tethering.
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The waking of the phone is most likely caused by a USB malfunction. 4.3 isn't great because Verizon hasn't updated the Nexus radios so the signal is very bad. It goes from LTE to 3g to no signal and back. It does this so ,much that the battery takes a big hit. Find a ROM where you can turn on and off LTE, that should improve your battery.
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The battery drain is because of "always searching for nearby wifi" option
Just disable it ...
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ive been happy with 4.3 on my VZW Gnex except for constantly having data issues. i downloaded a couple 4.2 roms again to see if they help any. I'm guessing it's because VZW doesn't officially have 4.3 on the Gnex which is why we are seeing data problems. I don't know specifics, maybe binary problems, i dunno. All i do know is it's annoying. I can't even stream iheartradio or pandora at work without it constantly cutting out. then i'll lose data all together and have to reboot the phone to get it back.
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So I flashed the latest and "greatest" Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus. After all, this is why we get our nexus devices for, right -- getting the latest updates without begging cell phone vendors or carriers. But Android 4.3 on Galaxy Nexus is driving me nuts -- A full charge won't last me for half a day without much usage at all. The phone intermittently wakes up and won't go back to sleep again, and after I press the power button to put it to stand by, it wakes up a few seconds later. Granted, it's not like that all the time, but it's often enough to be annoying and it's eating the battery alive. Before you ask, yes, I did do a clean install with root.
Very frustrated with this update, and come to think of it, the Android updates of late have not been stellar -- I experienced system random restart when 4.2 hits, and now this...
Sorry for the ranting but I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar problems. I googled around and there's an reported issue of Galaxy Nexus battery drain but given the discussion on there I don't think Google is going to dedicate any resource to fixing that.
Which JB point release do you guys think is the best for Galaxy Nexus?
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I just had this exact problem and spent a day working on it. It actually has nothing to do with android 4.3; its actually the usb port on the phone, as stated a bit earlier in this thread. More specifically, the pin inside the port is likely shorting with the outer surface of the port, due to it bending slightly. This causes the phone to have funky voltages being detected at the port, and results in the phone behaving as you described (the waking up when the screen is off is actually it thinking its going into charging mode). There are two things to do to fix it. Firstly, take some compressed air and thoroughly clean the port out. Dust that accumulates in the port can cause problems like this, and blowing it out is a relatively simple task. If that doesn't work, the next thing to do is to bend the pin up a bit. Note that this requires you to be a bit gentle, but is not overly difficult. Turn the phone off and remove the battery first, then wedge a very small flat head screwdriver between the pin and the bottom of the port. Very gently apply a bit of pressure, just to bend it up a bit. This doesn't need to be by a lot, in fact when i did it, i could only barely even see a physical difference. Put the battery back in and power the phone back up, and see if it was enough. It fixed all my problems when I did it a week ago.
Don't know what seems to be the problem here
Lasts me 1.5 days with 4hrs On Screen Time Every Time
Don't blame 4.3 if it's an app messing with your battery life
Thanks everyone for chiming in. Here's an update. I uninstalled Go battery widget and now the battery lasts longer. Not as long as I had hoped but better. I installed wakelock detector (thanks for suggesting it) after I uninstalled Go battery widget so I don't have the evidence to prove that Go battery widget is the culprit but the phone seems to be running better now. I also haven't experienced any random wake ups.
Would the data issues more likely be a factor of radio, rather than ROM?
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Why do that when you can complain on a new thread on xda?! 4.3 sucks because crappy Go apps create wakelocks!
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I had the same issues with battery life when I upgraded to 4.3. However, I largely attribute that to T-Mobile's horrible reception in College Station, TX. I used PA, CM10, Purity, Avatar, and a few others but the battery life and performance was not respectable even though they claimed the contrary. This phone is reaching its the end of its product life and no matter how many "optimizations" go under the hood, the hardware is just not apt for ROMs designed for higher end phones.
In the end, I flashed a stock rooted ROM, no more "optimizations", "tweaks", or "improvements"...just a clean ROM. Granted, I in no way mean to offend any developer and their hard work but my experiences with their ROMs left a bitter feeling towards them.
Battery life improved significantly. What used to be 100% to 30% in 8-9 hours turned into 100%-50% in 14 hours. Do keep in mind I'm not a power user. My phone serves as a music player for my ~1 hr commute from and to school, occasional text messages, random redditing, and the random news article before class. In all, I average a little under 2 hours screen time before I deplete the battery to 5-10%.
It's also important to use the appropriate radio for your market.
TL;DR - Try stock and a different radio.
Kernel
I have always seen major differences between Kernels and attributed the majority of battery life to that. Some kernels just work better than others. For example, I know that TONS of people love Franco's kernel, but on my phone battery life is terrible on it. Personally, I like Golden and it seems to really improve battery life.
Same here. I've been having constant data issues with 4.3. So much so that I've just lock myself to 3G and so far, that's been good. 3G->4G or back doesn't work half the time and requires either toggling airplane mode on and off, or rebooting the phone outright.
Going to have to agree. I have VZW and all the 4.3 ROM's I've tried have been less than impressive. I obviously appreciate the dev's work but nothing i've tried is ready to be my DD
There is something going on with my phone, Samsung Galaxy S3, V4.3 where occasionally, lately it has been once a day the power draw from the battery will spike as high as 2,000ma (2 amps). This last long enough to drop the charge 10 - 20% and creates excessive battery heat. It happens on charge or off charge. I have tried viewing the running processes with System Tuner and nothing shows up in the list using an excessive amount of CPU. Better Battery Staus also doesn't pinpoint the problem. I have most everything Greenified accept Google stuff of course and useful stuff like email, etc. I now believe it could be connected with GPS since I turned off the GPS I have not had another event other than a 800ma spikes that quickly go away. Need more time to confirm it is GPS related. Are there any programs that will log which applications are using GPS? Any other ideas what could be the problem? I don't understand why System Tuner doesn't show me which process is eating the battery? Can anyone point me in the right direction.
I thonk it may be the radio itself. I have recently noticed similar issues on mine but its usually when streaming videos. I rarely use gps so i cant speak on that right now.
If i have it plugged in while doing this, it gets hot enough to trigger a shutdown due to thermal event....it crashes!
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I thonk it may be the radio itself. I have recently noticed similar issues on mine but its usually when streaming videos. I rarely use gps so i cant speak on that right now.
If i have it plugged in while doing this, it gets hot enough to trigger a shutdown due to thermal event....it crashes!
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Same here, I also noticed with System Tuner that several applications that normally use 1% or less of CPU seem to spike to 8 - 30%. This all seem very odd. Now I am wondering if the background radio steals CPU cycles and leaves no time for normal applications. Anyway, the issues are reduced with GPS off although the battery does get warm sometimes without any reason I can fine. I'll try streaming audio and see if it triggers.
I would be willing to try a different radio. My current software is Model Number SGH-T999, Android version 4.3, BaseBand version T999UVUENC2, Kernel 3.0.31-1962493, Build number JSS15J.T999UVUENC2.
Unfortunately, no other radio will work. You can try one just to be sure about it. It wont brick, but just wont function. Youll have unknown imei and baseband until you flash the NC2 modem back.
Im currently running my port of S3Rx 4.0, but ill flash back to NC2 in a couple if days to test more on mine. Im also using a case/housing not meant for the T999 so theres a good chance that is contributing to my problems though.
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Unfortunately, no other radio will work. You can try one just to be sure about it. It wont brick, but just wont function. Youll have unknown imei and baseband until you flash the NC2 modem back.
Im currently running my port of S3Rx 4.0, but ill flash back to NC2 in a couple if days to test more on mine. Im also using a case/housing not meant for the T999 so theres a good chance that is contributing to my problems though.
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Okay, thank you for the replies. Please stop by if you learn anything new. Velis Auto Brightness is up to 64% CPU usage, grrr. I posted on developers forum maybe troubleshooting that will lead to a fix. The 2 amp spikes haven't occurred since I disabled GPS, so I am guess you are correct about the radio.
The problem returned so turning off GPS isn't a complete fix, seems to reduce the frequency is all. It looks like Android System is the problem. If I shut down pull the battery reboot the bad behaviour continues, only fix seems to wait it out. My next phone most likely will not be a sammy.
Im not really sure what to suggest at this point. I can say that what we are experiencing isnt typical though.
Out of curiosity, have you given any of the ported kk roms a try? I think my Sprint port is probably the most stable/bug free, but they are all good and ive had pretty good battery on each one compared stock. (Ive always had good battery life even on stock though, aside from a few recent issues that I believe are more my own fault). TMS3KK is a solid rom with very few issues. S3Rx 4.0 is as well, but ill be posting an update to it hopefully later today, so I cant say its really been thoroughly vetted yet. Still worth a look though, imo.
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Im not really sure what to suggest at this point. I can say that what we are experiencing isnt typical though.
Out of curiosity, have you given any of the ported kk roms a try? I think my Sprint port is probably the most stable/bug free, but they are all good and ive had pretty good battery on each one compared stock. (Ive always had good battery life even on stock though, aside from a few recent issues that I believe are more my own fault). TMS3KK is a solid rom with very few issues. S3Rx 4.0 is as well, but ill be posting an update to it hopefully later today, so I cant say its really been thoroughly vetted yet. Still worth a look though, imo.
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No time to try a different ROM yet. I should have time the weekend after next. Thank you for all your suggestions.
I tried replacing the battery. After the first charge the phone lasted for 2 days before the battery dropped to 5%. It took 6 hours to charge back to 100%. No problems until later, it seems to dislike being unplugged moved to a new location and plugged in again. This appears to be when the problem occurs. I usually just leave the phone plugged in all the time. I'll test further with the power before I make up my mind. I think this will be the last Sammy phone for me?
Is it a non stock battery? I've always had issues with those reporting correctly.
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Is it a non stock battery? I've always had issues with those reporting correctly.
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Usually I would buy a non stock battery however since this phone lays next to me in bed to wake me in the mornings I am a little concerned with a fire so it is a Samsung battery from Samsung. Leaving it unplugged for a bit and plugging it back in didn't work stop the battery drain. There are no processes eating the battery according to System Tuner so got to change the ROM.
Should I try a ROM first or kernel or both? Could it be an Xposed module, thinking about turning all of those hacks off?
I just remembered, this only happens if the screen is on and the phone is plugged into the charger. And rebooting doesn't clear the problem.
I would start with a stock based ROM. If it were me I'd go full stock rooted. But yeah I'd ditch xposed for now. You might even try reflashing your current ROM, factory resetting and this time don't use any exposed mods. If it still has problems, then try a different ROM.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find xposed was the culprit. Its really cool, and the dev is amazing, but I prefer not to use it at all. IMO, it's much better to have the mods coded into the ROM itself.
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I would start with a stock based ROM. If it were me I'd go full stock rooted. But yeah I'd ditch xposed for now. You might even try reflashing your current ROM, factory resetting and this time don't use any exposed mods. If it still has problems, then try a different ROM.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find xposed was the culprit. Its really cool, and the dev is amazing, but I prefer not to use it at all. IMO, it's much better to have the mods coded into the ROM itself.
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Thank you Doc, will do so and report back here the results.
My phone does the same thing now. My phone never did this when I first got it a couple years ago. I use GPS a lot because son plays on a travel hockey team. I could drive 3 - 4 hours away with the phone on and plugged in using the GPS without any issues. Now, my phone gets so hot in about an hour of the same type of use and it shuts down.
I thought that maybe there was something wrong with the phone because of age but now I see it could be something different.
It very well could be age related, or it could be partially due to that too. But I'd do as I suggested above and run stock for a bit to test. If on a custom rom, and especially kernel, you could run into issues like that too.
If you have the same problem on stock, (and you're sure its not an app acting up), there's a very good possibility that its more of a hardware related issue.
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And it is not the battery. I can't load stock until next weekend, need my phone for work.
You can always use better battery stats to investigate while you use it normally. Let it log all wakelocks, including kernel wakelocks for a full cycle.
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You can always use better battery stats to investigate while you use it normally. Let it log all wakelocks, including kernel wakelocks for a full cycle.
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Tried that, been there, odd thing is nothing shows there. I'm gonna reload with stock per your suggestion next weekend and if that doesn't work I'll try a custom kernel.
Try remove greenify app and see what happens. Cuz with my case the latest version (2.4.x.x) of greenify driving my phone nuts. That app used to be great.
I'm back. Loaded stock 4.3 ROM / kernel, radio is at newest versions, I am going to say the problem is gone. The battery heats up to about 32-33 degrees Celsius however the phone isn't hot like it is burning up so I believe the problem is like Doc suggested earlier with the radio. Which would explain why the process monitors never see any rouge application using to much CPU. So after some pondering, this doesn't stop a rouge application from using to much bandwidth and cooking the radio so to type. If I had to pin it down I am going to suggest it maybe one of these two applications: FCC speedtest and or Opensignal or some other application. Both of the listed applications periodically test the network bandwidth and report back to a central server. I suspect that this maybe trigger the heat problem from the extend radio usage. No proof at this time just conjecture.
I am considering jumping to an AOSP ROM to be free of the Samsung bloat, NOT CM, don't care for CM, does anyone have any good suggestions to try?