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to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.
Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.
Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?
I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.
I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.
Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
I suggest stock 4.0.2 with ogdobber's jamesbond kernel which only has undervolt open and the gpu oc'ed. Probably need to turn off lte and stick to the CDMA. 3g CDMA isn't fast but it is passable and battery efficient.
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even if battery tech does drastically increase 1750 mah will ALWAYS still be 1750mah it may take up less space or create less heat.. Mah is a measurement of milliamperes per hour
Try Paul O'Brien's excellent MoDaCo ROM - very impressive battery life and for $9 you get access to the kitchen. There's an update due today which will fix a flaky call issue.
Alternatively, hang on for 4.0.3 which is likely to bring some decent battery life improvements and bug fixes (though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first). I used to get 2-3 days of heavy use from my SGS2, get one of those and wait for ICS if you want better battery.
And a last alternatively... shove one of these in your bag:
http://www.firebox.com/product/2692/Pebble-Portable-Charger
If your in places with no reception, put the thing in airplace mode or disable mobile data.
This phone gives me the best battery life vs my last 4 phones,... HTC hero, htc evo, Nexus s, and htc evo 3d...
Get an external battery. Since you are in uni I suppose you will be carrying around a bag anyway so it won't be too inconvenient to lug around. Just leave your phone charging during lunch and it should last the rest if the afternoon.
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.
Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...
There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"
WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
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Also to put it in context...I'm using the epic 4g and I still have the stock 1500 mAh battery and the only time I lasted more than 4 hours on stock without having to charge was with a gngerbread leak.
But after a couple days of devs getting dirty and taking the time to clean up, your battery should last exponentially longer since people will have figured out what exactly drains the batter and how to stop it.
On the epic, it was the DRM. **** always ran in the background, then someone discovered it and about a month later it became so irrelevant since all the devs knew what code to get the drm to stfu until you needed it
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.
Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...
There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"
WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
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Hah.. fallout new Vegas Nerd Rage perk. STR to Max and screen-on drain resistance +50% when battery falls below 20%.
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(though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first).
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Game4set said:
to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.
Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.
Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?
I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.
I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.
Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
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Battery lasts me all day on the GSM version.
Folks, powering an extra radio uses extra power.
Moreover, the longer your data connection stays active, the longer your radio is active which is an even bigger drain. Since the LTE Gnexus devices are powering 2 radios (CDMA *and* LTE) simultaneously, and the second radio isn't as efficient as the standard radio that's part of the SoC package, this means that you need to ration your data usage if you want your battery to last.
Again, on the GSM version this isn't an issue because the radio is built into the SoC from the ground up, as well as it being only a single active radio at a time (GSM *or* UMTS/HSPA).
Software updates won't change that. It's a matter of physics. The LTE version may see some improvements here and there, but no software will counteract the effects of having to power 2 radios constantly.
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Lol its definitely not like that. Its more like buying a new eco lightbulb that you use just like your old lightbulb but your bill is $80 more. Wut? LOL
But nah my epic 4g lasts me the whole day with 4g on (no access to wifi :[ ), auto-sync for gmail (i don't use facebook so its always the first app to go), blah blah blah. The only time battery is a problem is if I'm in a no sprint zone and forget to make my phone roam. Other than that, its used as a smartphone with 3+ hours of screen on time (voodoo color allowsyou to edit the gamm values and what not so its able to sip less power for the same brightness if that makes sense)
Seriously, root your phone and if stock is your thing, just install a custom kernel. Kernels handle the voltages and frequencies andhow your phone interacts with certain things so a custom kernel will almost ALWAYS have been optimized over stock. You will probably see a muc better result if you flash a ROM and Kernel, simply because custom roms are made to work without all the extra **** running in the background that no one wants
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Originally Posted by David Horn
(though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first).
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Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
A_Flying_Fox said:
Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
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Just to clarify, make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
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Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
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Sorry, but that's not gonna happen...
Terminators run on Android
You can have good battery life, of course
Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.
Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.
Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.
It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time
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TERRIBLE advice. Make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
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Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.
I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.
I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
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Your words were to delete EVERYTHING in system/app that you don't use. I'm not trying to pick an argument here, but I just like to clarify, because what may be common sense to some people may not be to another. Not even necessarily the OP, but others that come across the thread in the future.
/worked in tech support -- common sense can never be assumed.
gogol said:
You can have good battery life, of course
Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.
Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.
Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.
It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time
Forgot to tell, im using original gsm 1750mAh bat.
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WOW! Best iv'e seen so far! I manage to get about 3h on screen time over one day of use, but 2 days and nights with already over 3h screen and still 17% to go!! Wow i do keep gps, sync, latitude, g+ turned on at all times though and always 100% screen brightness, no facebook.. gonna delete that acc soon.. any trix you use to get that bat,life?
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At first my girlfriend had her Nexus S updated to ics and immediately we noticed a huge difference in how long her battery lasted and she is the furthest thing from a heavy user.
So when I heard that ics ws being released for our phone my first thought was i hope that what she experienced won't be what i do as we have a better phone right?
Well I am sad to say on a stock but rooted rom I experience the same lack of battery life as her.
Now I am no beginner to Android and have changed all sorts of settings available and nothing syncs on its own and when I unplug my phone from charging in the morning I will need to plug my phone in at night before bed as my phone will be completely dead.
I have to say I am very disappointed in the battery life of thr the stock rom and hope some good kernels make it out to help.
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Have you tried to find out which app/process is draining your battery? Better Battery Stats can help you identify what is using up your battery.
I had a big keep awake problem when i first installed stock ICS on my T989D. I did a full wipe of the phone and formatted my internal SD card (after backing things up of course), reinstall the same stock ICS and everything works great now. Battery life is about the same as before (stock GB w/ Synergy kernel), which is about 30 hours with moderate use.
Try CM 9. I get almost 2 days of battery life.
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I've never had better battery life personally.
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Though I am now on AOKP, I had great battery life on stock ICS as well. But, everything is subjective. How many email accounts are being synced? Do you have Facebook / Twitter / G+ updating every hour? Do you have news feeds continuously updating as well?
I have to agree with the poster above. Get Better Battery Stats and find the culprit draining your battery and work from there.
biggest thing draining the battery is the screen.
you can literally watch the battery usage drop 10-15% in a period of 10 to 15 minutes which is absurd when its set to low.
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Wait for kernel development. Its underway as we speak. It will make a significant difference.
Some battery saving tips:
- use juicedefender and set it to aggressive mode.
- use romtoolbox or other programs to underclock cpu frequency.
- also try using telus stock ics. Very good battery life.
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I have a brand new T989D (I'm new to Android, former iPhone user) and got the ICS upgrade the day I got it (9 days ago). Battery life is terrible, I'm lucky if I get 10 hours of moderate usage. The phone also tends to run very, very hot. Sometimes apps freeze and all I can do is either wait or, in some cases, remove the battery to reboot.
I'm open to any tips that will get this fixed! I haven't rooted yet (no time). I think I will try those wipe tools and reflash the stock ICS ROM.
First post btw - glad to have joined XDA!
Rooting takes 5 seconds. Follow the sticky. Use odin.
Run a custom rom.
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Rooting takes 5 seconds. Follow the sticky. Use odin.
Run a custom rom.
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Thanks, although a lot of howtos seem to be for GB since ICS only landed 9 days ago. Also there's a lot of conflicting information, so I prefer this one:
http : // galaxys2root.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s2/how-to-root-icsgb-on-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-sgh-t989/
Aaaannnd... rooted! \o/
anomy13 said:
Wait for kernel development. Its underway as we speak. It will make a significant difference.
Some battery saving tips:
- use juicedefender and set it to aggressive mode.
- use romtoolbox or other programs to underclock cpu frequency.
- also try using telus stock ics. Very good battery life.
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phone is a telus phone so its already using that rom.
setcpu us setup already but thinking perhaps to undervolt
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Stock, not rooted, my battery life is great. Something is using your battery up, and flashing some exotic kernel isn't going to change that. The stock kernel works fine. You'll want to find the root of the problem. Keep a real-time (or 1-5s interval anyway) eye on the phone's current (mA) usage, and when it's high for no apparent reason, you'll know that whatever is sucking your battery is doing it right then. That should help you characterize the problem. I've noticed when my WCDMA/GSM radio signal sucks, so does the battery life, so I either turn off the radio or switch to GSM only when I'm in that area. If your display is what's eating your battery, well a kernel can't stop that. Turn the brightness down, leave it on auto-brightness, or just deal with it if you need the display on all the time. But if tweaking and modding makes you happy, by all means...
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biggest thing draining the battery is the screen.
you can literally watch the battery usage drop 10-15% in a period of 10 to 15 minutes which is absurd when its set to low.
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I have the same complaint. The "screen" battery usage is just unacceptable, especially compared to GB. My phone has been draining from a full charge for ~4.5 hours and my screen usage is 70% and battery is down to 65% with hardly 10 minutes of screen-on time.
I use an app called autostarts and you basically enable/disable apps that start running when certain events happen (phone startup, wifi being turned on, incoming call/sms/mms, other apps turning on, etc.). Just make sure you do your homework so you dont disable something critical. Hopefully this app works on ICS. You'll be surprised what different events make certain apps turn on automaticly. Screen, data/wifi, gps and bluetooth are the biggest battery drainers. No matter what Rom you are on if you don't keep control of those items your battery will drain fast. Keep ur screen on auto, let it go off @ 15 seconds ( you have to be pretty used to your phone for that setting not to annoy you), turn OFF your data or wifi when not in use. With bluetooth and gps...well u know that when you use them your battery is gonna drain faster than normal...just keep that in mind. Its all pretty much common sense.
I'm not going to tell you how much battery time I get cuz its nonsense. There are times my phone lasts till the next day and others Im charging it by sundown. Then again Im still on Juggs n Darkside kernel and Im gonna wait a bit still b4 I make the switch. Also don't go by what other people say on battery life cuz if you might not get the same results on that ROM. Everyone of our devices is unique and acts different. Everyone user uses their phone different. You can't define "light, moderate, heavy" use so don't go by that either.
Sent from my Blutiful SGSII w/Juggs.
Duel core vs single core
Larger brighter screen
Processor is clocked higher
Radio is connected to hspa+ network
Tw vs Samsung.
These things make a difference
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After upgrading to ICS stock unrooted battery life sucked (5-6hrs). I did the whole remove battery, factory reset and still sucked.
Broke down rooted (still stock), downloaded batterycalibration from play, followed the instructions. Easily get over 24hrs before having to charge again. and when I say easily, I mean I still have over 25% left.
Get a gnex extended....maybe a bad battery
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AOKP build 40, latest eugene373 streamline kernel. I went 9 hours earlier it earlier and it was still at 70% You will see a difference!!
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Im not going to tell you how much battery time I get cuz its nonsense. .........Everyone user uses their phone different. You can't define "light, moderate, heavy" use so don't go by that either.
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Bingo. Vastly different battery life between ROM's is generally BS. Every once in a great while one of these threads has merit but typically someone saying ROM X had "Killer" battery life is clueless and drinking the koolaid. Then a placebo effect takes place. And definitely someones "Heavy" use is subjective. If someone says they get a day out of an android phone they are not heavy users by my definition. It doesn't happen with heavy use. Perhaps the Razr Maxx or another phone with a very large battery but I've had 5 Android phones. If I get past noon it's because I am not using my phone that much and forget about a full day. It's never happened in the 4 years I've used google OS phones. Never.
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Bingo. Vastly different battery life between ROM's is generally BS. Every once in a great while one of these threads has merit but typically someone saying ROM X had "Killer" battery life is clueless and drinking the koolaid. Then a placebo effect takes place. And definitely someones "Heavy" use is subjective. If someone says they get a day out of an android phone they are not heavy users by my definition. It doesn't happen with heavy use. Perhaps the Razr Maxx or another phone with a very large battery but I've had 5 Android phones. If I get past noon it's because I am not using my phone that much and forget about a full day. It's never happened in the 4 years I've used google OS phones. Never.
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Yes exactly, I hate when people post screenshots of their phone getting 24+ hours, I'm there thinking "well obviously they don't use their phone alot". There is no way in hell i could get 24 hours no matter what rom/kernal I use. Im just happy when my phone can make it till I get home at night
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EDIT: Please read this entire thread, there's some good info. Every phone and every situation is different, however it turns out my battery drain was the result of my phone not hitting "Deep Sleep". The culprit was my SD card, if you're experiencing battery drain after upgrading to ICS try removing your SD card and restarting your phone, use the app CPU SPY to verify your phone is now hitting "Deep Sleep". Again please read on, amidst some trolls there is more detailed information.
SIDENOTE: This being my first thread I have to say on the whole I really like this community!
I never thought I'd be that guy saying don't upgrade to ICS, because the OS is so slick and fun. However the glitch with the battery drain nullifies it's value. My brand new phone, less than two months old will die before the end of the day without me making a single phone call. I'm talking maybe an 1 to 1.5 hours of use texting, checking mail, surfing, and my battery now runs dead before I even get home from work. If you go into Settings > Battery it will show you the break down of what's using what. At the top should be your display, it takes a lot of power for to run the ultra bright display and this is what I saw before the ICS update. After the update these are the numbers:
Android OS: 58%
Screen: 18%
Cell Standby: 10%
Phone Idle: 7%
Android System: 2%
The OS is taking 58% of the battery?!? This is crazy!The buzz going around the net is if you do a factory reset it will fix the issue, well it does, but only for a very short time.
I went through the pain and formatted my SD card, then did a factory reset on my phone lost everything, well I backed it up, but still was a long process. After all that I loaded up my apps, and everything looked great. If you I went into the battery break down Screen was back at the top and the Android OS was several rungs below. I was SO happy! It was worth it after all.... THEN
Imagine my chagrin I woke up this morning to a full charge. Didn't make one phone call, just checked a couple emails, and being only a HOUR into my day my battery is at 76%!! I look back at the battery break down, and there's Android OS sitting at the top, draining double the battery juice as the screen display. I mean this almost makes ICS useless, what good is this great cell phone if you have to be tethered to a power cord. WTF!! Point being, don't bother resetting your phone, it DOES NOT permanently help. If you haven't upgraded to ICS don't, we're all just screwed until they come out with a fix, and you see how long it took them just to get ICS.
I don't know what happened between last night and today, but my hope is some dev person will read this and it will help them pinpoint the issue.
Did you backup and restore your app data as well?
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Did you backup and restore your app data as well?
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Nope, the only thing I backed up was pics, music, and video, and I combed through those folders to make sure there were no sys files.
It sounds more like your battery is going bad. You can go to Sprint store and they will test your battery for you.
You might also want to get a battery monitoring program and see what is using the battery up.
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its not a ics glitch its your phone lol.. ive never had this issue.. plus with the source kernels coming out and with roms/tweaks already out youcan increase battery life yourself.. because your battey cant keep a charge you bash ics? go back to gingerbread then lol. i can use my phone for two hours and leave it off charger over night and still have at least 50% charge
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Android OS: 58%
Screen: 18%
Cell Standby: 10%
Phone Idle: 7%
Android System: 2%
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It looks like your phone may never be going into deep sleep. Get CPUSpy from Google Play and see what is going on.
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It sounds more like your battery is going bad. You can go to Sprint store and they will test your battery for you.
You might also want to get a battery monitoring program and see what is using the battery up.
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Having a bad battery would not make Android OS use the majority of his power though. I have had this problem myself in the past and never did figure out exactly what stopped it. Running Blue Kuban now and my battery life, though never great, is reasonable. FYI, I also run Juice Defender which makes a substantial difference for me.
Running pretty much stock ICS FF18, just have agat safe recovery/kernal installed. Yesterday I left Wimax on all day and when I went to charge it last night it had about 28% left. I made several phone calls, many texts/whatsapp messages, reading emails and using twiitter/fb a couple of times.
The battery life on this is not the greatest, for example, I forgot to turn off wifi when I left my house the other day, well my battery dropped about 30% in just a few hours. I now find that just leaving Wimax on all day is actually better and pretty much on par with just having 3G on, I prefer wifi at home but if I forget to turn it off it kills my battery.
I was so used to Blazers 4.1 battery life, the battery lasted forever and I could leave wifi, bluetooth etc on all day. Just hoping for the ROMs to start incorporating the recently released source so that we can get better battery life on these great ROMS.
This is all known information. That's why you use custom roms that have much better battery life.
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I had same issue here with custom rom FF18 touched by SGS3. Went back to EL29, FF18 is glitchy and slower anyway.
Confirmed, factory reset battery drain exists.
OP, why don't you put up a screenshot of your battery graph? The expanded one, not the one that lists the percentages.
There are a number of reasons why this could be happening. One of my biggest drainers on CM9 was Google login service, turned out the "keep this device backed up with Google" in the backup and reset settings was completely preventing my phone from going to sleep. This is but one example.
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I am getting decent battery life with the 'super galaxy rom' almost on par with the caulkin el29 build I was using... LOVE it!
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You guys need to quit crying wolf and figure out what is really draining your battery. Maybe your google drive is syncing, or you have facebook running, or email is pulling too often, ICS does not kill battery rogue apps and wrong settings do.
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats (search xda for other versions)
and this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.systempanel&hl=en
Figure out whats waking up your phone and running when its not supposed to be and until you have data STFU
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You guys need to quit crying wolf and figure out what is really draining your battery. Maybe your google drive is syncing, or you have facebook running, or email is pulling too often, ICS does not kill battery rogue apps and wrong settings do.
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats (search xda for other versions)
and this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.systempanel&hl=en
Figure out whats waking up your phone and running when its not supposed to be and until you have data STFU
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seconded, attached is the battery stats for an average day for me on ff18 based goodness.... these "problems" are all able to be resolved rather easily with very little effort... this is not a paid tech support forum and no one is going to spoon feed you when solutions have been posted countless times in countless hysterical threads like this
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My phone is not rooted and this is the battery life I'm getting after the OTA with light use. With regular use I get at least 25-30 hours.
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My phone is not rooted and this is the battery life I'm getting after the OTA with light use. With regular use I get at least 25-30 hours.
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Just curious, what's your display time. From the looks of it, doesn't seem like much. But still, that's pretty impressive nonetheless.
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nim6us said:
Android OS: 58%
Screen: 18%
Cell Standby: 10%
Phone Idle: 7%
Android System: 2%
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It looks like your phone may never be going into deep sleep. Get CPUSpy from Google Play and see what is going on.
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So if it's not going into deep sleep what's the fix?
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This is all known information. That's why you use custom roms that have much better battery life.
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I'm a super n00b, if you or someone could link me to the best ICS ROM the cool kids are using I can figure out how to install it.
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However bottom line, before ICS upgrade my battery life was great and my Android OS was not 50% of my battery power. I'm not rooted or have any custom anything, after the ICS upgrade my battery drains rapidly. I'm willing to do what it takes to get it fixed, however I do fully put the blame on ICS, I'm using stock everything, the battery is good, something in that update is screwing my battery.
All I was trying to do was give developers, a little insight that the factory reset temporarily fixed the issue, for 3-4 hours before bed I monitored it and everything was good. So hopefully this will help turn the light bulb on in someone else's head.
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ICS works really well for some, but for others it renders the phone completely useless. I'm one that it won't work for as well. The battery life is **** and 4g connectivity is non existent. As a result, I'm back to EL29/GB until a patch is made.
I spent 4 days after teh OTA was released trying to find fixes, trying to make it work, using different kernals and modems, but had no success. I posted about it many times and more or less was told that I was doing it wrong.
On that not, good luck mate. Here's to hoping for a patch from samsung soon. :good:
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demonlordoftheround said:
So if it's not going into deep sleep what's the fix?
I'm a super n00b, if you or someone could link me to the best ICS ROM the cool kids are using I can figure out how to install it.
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However bottom line, before ICS upgrade my battery life was great and my Android OS was not 50% of my battery power. I'm not rooted or have any custom anything, after the ICS upgrade my battery drains rapidly. I'm willing to do what it takes to get it fixed, however I do fully put the blame on ICS, I'm using stock everything, the battery is good, something in that update is screwing my battery.
All I was trying to do was give developers, a little insight that the factory reset temporarily fixed the issue, for 3-4 hours before bed I monitored it and everything was good. So hopefully this will help turn the light bulb on in someone else's head.
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I have a thread stickied in general called "welcome to he et4g" that might be a good place for you to start, from there you'll figure out what you need to search for to learn more... there is no best rom its a matter of opinion, so read the dev threads and see what looks good to you... bottom line without seeing more information from you I would guess you have something running in the background preventing deep sleep, as mentioned earlier... also are you leaving wifi, Bluetooth, etc on? That'll kill your battery quick... do you live in an area with poor sprint signal? Constantly searching for service will also drain you battery. What do you have to set up to sync? And how often? There are easy ways to prolong battery life on ff18 and the vast majority of people complaining about battery life have not taken positive steps to learn more and resolve their own issues... it can be done, good luck
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We all know our GS2 runs out of Battery at a faster rate than what we would like! I'm just curious, what steps do You take to increase battery life, if any.
-Do you use certain apps?
-Do you enable/disable certain things and certain times?
-Anything, ever the smallest things you do, I would like to know!
I'm just curious to see what different people do to strengthen their battery.
(Also, if you could, please just post what ROM you're running on too) Thanks!
I use developer options and limit the apps to 4. I also under clock to 200. Stock rom.
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I use developer options and limit the apps to 4. I also under clock to 200. Stock rom.
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lol! 200?!?!
i run cm10 and I really don't do anything but dim my screen most of the time.
Battery Life
Im running FK23 leaked rooted with stock kernel. I use powersave mode that comes in stock settings app.
I don't limit cpu. I use phone to txt, play games, youtube, facebook, twitter, and instagram and google play store.
I get around 14+ hours usage.
Also, I try to use WIFI whenever I can. I turn off GPS when not needed. I dont use 4G often as 3G is pretty good on FK23.
Lasts me from 7:45AM to 10:27PM as of now on 1%.
Wow, and how much do you use you're phone throughout the day? I'm just looking for new ideas because I do several things to increase my battery length, but I find myself around 50% in the first 2-3 hours of my 11 hour day. :/
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Wow, and how much do you use you're phone throughout the day? I'm just looking for new ideas because I do several things to increase my battery length, but I find myself around 50% in the first 2-3 hours of my 11 hour day. :/
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I bought a cheap ($10) extended battery and cover, and a cheap ($9) TPU case/ At 14 hours, I still had 61% battery left. I can get a full legitimate day out of it running 2.3's, but I am going to try JB and ICS again and see where it's at.
I run KingKang with the JB tweaks package. I also modified my build.prop for both performance and battery life. Plus I toggle my 3G on only when I need it. If I have a WiFi signal I'll do the same with that. I average 17 hours but sometimes I get more than 24. Inverted apps not only look great, but help with battery too.
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Honestly? #1 thing I do is stay on wi-fi as much as possible. Have gone almost 24 hours if I keep off 3G/4G and moderately use the phone/'net.
Where did you purchase the battery, and how much stronger is it? Also, what kind of case did you get, one that chargers your phone?
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Where did you purchase the battery, and how much stronger is it? Also, what kind of case did you get, one that chargers your phone?
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Just bought the cheapest 3500 mah battery with a back plate on Amazon, then the ONLY extended tpu case made by trexcell on Ebay. 20 bucks and I leave wifi gps and everything I use on all day long.
Epic4GT with different ROMs every few days. Thanks Devs!
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We all know our GS2 runs out of Battery at a faster rate than what we would like! I'm just curious, what steps do You take to increase battery life, if any.
-Do you use certain apps?
-Do you enable/disable certain things and certain times?
-Anything, ever the smallest things you do, I would like to know!
I'm just curious to see what different people do to strengthen their battery.
(Also, if you could, please just post what ROM you're running on too) Thanks!
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I switched back to Calkulin 3.0. Battery issues solved.
I tried to make ICS work for a couple months, but grew to hate the phone. It's a much better phone when it runs Gingerbread.
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I switched back to Calkulin 3.0. Battery issues solved.
I tried to make ICS work for a couple months, but grew to hate the phone. It's a much better phone when it runs Gingerbread.
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I did the same as you until the fk23 leak came out. Calkulin's v3.0 gb is amazing for battery life, smoothness, and functionality. I was never fully satisfied with any of the ics solutions, stock or custom.
Although the fk23 battery life isnt as good as calkulin, I'm still using it as my daily driver bc it's jellybean and cool, the phone runs well and smooth, and battery is good enough for me.
To answer the op's question, I do the following to help extend my battery life:
1. Leave off all data unless I need to use it (3g, 4g, wifi).
2. Turn of autosync and only sync as needed.
3. Remove bloatware and/or freeze any unnecessary apps (use GSM battery and OS monitor to find battery hog apps).
4. Leave off GPS unless needed.
5. Set screen brightness lower.
Here's a link to my FK23 results over in the battery thread in General:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34924972&postcount=534
I've only owned this phone since after the ICS update, so never tried any GB ROM.
The ICS ROM I've had the most success with is Re-Calked, but FK23 takes it just a step further for me. I know some people have been reporting issues with FK23, but for me it has been rock solid and has been my DD for nearly a week now.
Blu Kuban also did well with battery life, but it is a little over-customized for my liking. I also had some stability issues with BK. I used sleshpics M'ICS build for a while too ... again, over customized for my liking. Good performance and relatively stable. Also, I have never been able to get 4G speeds on any other ROM/kernel like I'm seeing now.
If I'm in an area with a strong cellular signal, I can get over 24h with 3h+ screen time both on and off WiFi. If the cell signal is week, I burn from 5-7%/h so maybe 15-16h if I was there all day ... but that would obv. improve if I threw it into airplane mode.
I have frozen all of the bloatware apps, don't have Google Now activated. Other than that, I allow syncing to occur per default. I don't have FB app installed.
I use auto-brightness most of the time, and I have a dark wallpaper.
dim screen. stay on wifi. that is all.
Honestly, getting use to a dimmed screen made a HUGE difference!!
Is there ever a time when its better to not be on WiFi, of a WiFi is available?
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Is there ever a time when its better to not be on WiFi, of a WiFi is available?
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I have had huge battery drain while being on wifi when availible 100% of the time I only use wifi when I need a faster connection
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Wow, and how much do you use you're phone throughout the day? I'm just looking for new ideas because I do several things to increase my battery length, but I find myself around 50% in the first 2-3 hours of my 11 hour day. :/
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Surprisingly i use my phone alot for twitter, facebook, and texting.
And i still get around the time i wake up till the time i sleep!
undervolt cpu and gpu
max freq 1000
pegasus q governor
I have been stressing myself out about this for over a week, trying different things, buying new batteries trying new chargers, changing roms.
Turning so many things off basically making my phone into a dumbphone to try to figure out why my battery life is so bad. Could it be I just have a bad phone and need a new one??
I had a Galaxy S3 gave it to my GF, never turned any sync services off and I am able to get 20+ hours with that phone, this phone is HORRIBLE.
I was stock getting about 5 hours before dead battery (phone would get real warm- battery stats showing 33C+).
So I rooted and took it back to an LJC rom (4.1.1). Tried different modems, kernals, files tweaks with root explorer.
I bought BBS, a battery calibrator from the market and still cant see any problems that would do this?
last picture......
Should I just take it into Sprint and get a replacement???
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I have been stressing myself out about this for over a week, trying different things, buying new batteries trying new chargers, changing roms.
Turning so many things off basically making my phone into a dumbphone to try to figure out why my battery life is so bad. Could it be I just have a bad phone and need a new one??
I had a Galaxy S3 gave it to my GF, never turned any sync services off and I am able to get 20+ hours with that phone, this phone is HORRIBLE.
I was stock getting about 5 hours before dead battery (phone would get real warm- battery stats showing 33C+).
So I rooted and took it back to an LJC rom (4.1.1). Tried different modems, kernals, files tweaks with root explorer.
I bought BBS, a battery calibrator from the market and still cant see any problems that would do this?
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What ROM are you installing over and over again?
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i had that issue. i fixed it by installing the same rom a couple times, and wiping cache/dalvik alot.
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I am running Macintosh 3.0 and I have power saver turned on, and I run DS Battery saver all day long. I am getting 2.5 days solid with moderate use. I am pretty sure DS Battery Saver is what is saving my battery. Let me know if you want to try the app. I have the .apk saved on my sdcard.
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I will try that !
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Also try uninstalling and reinstalling facebook. My girlfriend's phone (GS3, not a note) went from 8 hours to probably 14 hours just by using the mobile web version of facebook instead of the the app. Facebook is atrocious at making apps.
But it really does sound like you got a lemon here, I'd get a replacement from Sprint. I don't think I could kill my battery in under 10 hours unless I was playing a game non-stop. My phone is completely stock.
I will uninstall Facebook, and test it out. Thanks!
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OP. Your problem is not your ROM or anything else. Jeeze people.
Those partial wakelocks are PURELY from Google Now and the wifi/network based location. Either turn off Google Now, or turn off network-based-locating and those partial wakelocks will disappear....I'd also wager you have Sprint Connection Optimizer still running causing your phone to hangup trying to find a network conenction.
My battery took a good hite when I updated to 4.1.2 used to get 20+ hrs with 7+ screen time now I get about 14-15 with 4-5 hrs screen time
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Ok I turned off Google Now, network-based-location, and Sprint Connection Optimizer. I have also installed DS Battery Savor Pro running in balanced mode. I dont have facebook installed anymore also. Here are the screens, still just as bad........
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Ok I turned off Google Now, network-based-location, and Sprint Connection Optimizer. I have also installed DS Battery Savor Pro running in balanced mode. I dont have facebook installed anymore also. Here are the screens, still just as bad........
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Based on your first pictures, your status bar, and the amount of awake time your phone is showing I'm guessing a couple of things. Do you have a phone signal where you spend most of your day? If my awake bar was solid like yours I wouldn't have a battery after 7 hours either. I would backup everything and do a full wipe / clean install and run the phone a day or so.
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Ok I turned off Google Now, network-based-location, and Sprint Connection Optimizer. I have also installed DS Battery Savor Pro running in balanced mode. I dont have facebook installed anymore also. Here are the screens, still just as bad........
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What of the borderline useless bells and whistles do you have enabled? I.e. face recognition/unlock, auto-brightness, SPen battery saver etc? Things like battery savers unsurprisingly don't help so i'd nix it as it is only wasting battery.
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Based on your first pictures, your status bar, and the amount of awake time your phone is showing I'm guessing a couple of things. Do you have a phone signal where you spend most of your day? If my awake bar was solid like yours I wouldn't have a battery after 7 hours either. I would backup everything and do a full wipe / clean install and run the phone a day or so.
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Meh. On this device I always aim for getting 10%/ battery usage per hour of screen-on-time on TouchWiz ROMs, and a fraction of a percent per hour in screen-off....something is burning battery here, and it is probably a system setting.
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Based on your first pictures, your status bar, and the amount of awake time your phone is showing I'm guessing a couple of things. Do you have a phone signal where you spend most of your day? If my awake bar was solid like yours I wouldn't have a battery after 7 hours either. I would backup everything and do a full wipe / clean install and run the phone a day or so.
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I am going to try that now, going to do a wipe of everything and not install anything except the battery tools.
Skripka said:
What of the borderline useless bells and whistles do you have enabled? I.e. face recognition/unlock, auto-brightness, SPen battery saver etc? Things like battery savers unsurprisingly don't help so i'd nix it as it is only wasting battery.
No face recognition/unlock, auto brightness is enabled, but with that little screen time does it really matter? No SPen battery savor. Thanks for the suggestions.
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The thing is, I have a Galaxy S3... The Note II is setup no different then that, settings or otherwise. I am trying all of these suggestions, but why did I not have to turn any of these off on my S3?? Same service area obviously. I took the Galaxy S3 off the charger last night at 100%. Put a new battery in the Note II so it was at 100%. Let them both sit on the counter for 1 hour. S3 had 98%, Note II was at 87%... No calls no texting, no screen time. It is so fustrating! I have had my fair share of battery tweaking with previous phones (HTC EVO, HTC hero). It seems something isn't right. I had problems with stock rom, that is why I rooted so quick, to try a different ROM.
If the wipe does not work I will try to get Sprint to get me a replacement, was hoping the get this figured out before I fly to Florida for a week. Good thing I have extra batteries.
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The thing is, I have a Galaxy S3... The Note II is setup no different then that, settings or otherwise. I am trying all of these suggestions, but why did I not have to turn any of these off on my S3?? Same service area obviously. I took the Galaxy S3 off the charger last night at 100%. Put a new battery in the Note II so it was at 100%. Let them both sit on the counter for 1 hour. S3 had 98%, Note II was at 87%... No calls no texting, no screen time. It is so fustrating! I have had my fair share of battery tweaking with previous phones (HTC EVO, HTC hero). It seems something isn't right. I had problems with stock rom, that is why I rooted so quick, to try a different ROM.
If the wipe does not work I will try to get Sprint to get me a replacement, was hoping the get this figured out before I fly to Florida for a week. Good thing I have extra batteries.
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I would get a replacement. You should not have to turn off all thr features to get decent battery that defeats the purpose of having a smartphone.
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I recommend having Sprint check it out for you and then buying Ds battery saver pro!!!
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I recommend having Sprint check it out for you and then buying Ds battery saver pro!!!
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Bought Ds Battery savor. Charged phone to 100% put it in airplane mode went to bed at 11pm (phone at 100%), woke up at 7am and it was at 8% Fail! 0 screen time, 0 talking, zero everything and lost charge in a little over 8 hours! Going to use it in florida the next week, with my extra batteries and most likely going to return when i get back
Thanks All for your suggestions!
Has anyone disabled samsung push service. If not does it drain battery I have had it disabled since I bought the phone because I never use samsung chaton or other aops **** that but I want to start to use Chaton but not if push services has a big affect on battery.
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