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i know its been asked but i'm starting the discussion. there has to be an easy way to flash all these great i9100 roms on to our tmobile t989. i would think its mostly a kernal difference and some hardware buttons. i say this because i love hyperdroid roms (mostly wanted s2 for use of his rom) .with the hd2 all builds worked on all phones (europe,asia,usa,etc) no matter the model number.
i am starting the discussion and will help to develop with my time and limited knowledge (i need people who know more about building these roms) a simple zip file to be flashed through cwm. most builds use a base version, then have roms and etc over the top of them. so there must be a way to find a base version you like for any i9100, flash over cwm, then flash a "kernal" of sorts that "adds in or takes out" what is needed for android to run on our t989.
any thoughts? anyone want to discuss this? i have the time (as much as possible, my gf keeps saying "why dont you just make your own and quit bit$%ing").
also i saw a kitchen for building roms for s2 but not sure if its t989 compatible.
lets get to work, our phone is new but the i9100 is already cooking along, we can piggy back and make our phones just as awesome!
Reading from the tittle of the thread, please dont do it! Just fall back..
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So I understand you're not going to try to flash it but you're wrong about the major hurdle: Its the different processor. Since we have different hardware we're not talking about a slightly different radio, we're talking about two completely different devices branded as the same thing.
i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
To sum up what Kevin said : It's like flashing a sensation rom on our sgs2...(Right?)
but sense has been ported to other non htc devices. my point is it can be done. we should talk about it and get a discussion going. i'd be more then happy to help "port" other roms that are out for s2 varients
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To sum up what Kevin said : It's like flashing a sensation rom on our sgs2...(Right?)
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kenVAN its my first and last name pushed together But yes.
letrain02 said:
but sense has been ported to other non htc devices. my point is it can be done. we should talk about it and get a discussion going. i'd be more then happy to help "port" other roms that are out for s2 varients
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i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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Porting sense to non-HTC phones requires massive amounts of work and open source. Yes, it is possible but whether or not its feasible is a different option. You're right that the kernel is the main difference but even so its much more work than simply adjusting the kernel since there are soooooo many differences. Cashy put it well: you're porting a ROM from effectively a Samsung device to an HTC device. The only similarities are the screen and touchwiz. If you want to give it a go, I'd wait until we have a full ODIN tar to help you recover your phone because you're going to get a few bricks.
Well good luck to us all.
got my T989 few days ago, and I find it much better than the usual i9100 that everyone have on every aspect, except for the lack of support and android development. I regret I based my decision solely on technical spec rather than checking the verity of available firmware and development.
I live and use this phone in Israel, and that stock T-mobile rom I got with it is loaded with lots of irremovable T-mobile apps. Those are irrelevant for me. But the real issue is about the RTL support. I now have to read Hebrew text backwards (taht ekil hpargarap eloh a daer ot yrT) in some text fields. And it won't let me use the mobile hotspot by saying my sim card is not supported. I can't see why it connects to the internet (it does, checked my APN settings twice and it configured right) but won't let me use that hotspot.
Can't these changes in the level of GUI be implanted from other equivalent roms as source code? Does these minor changes take so much work? Before overclocking my phone to 1.89 Ghz I would rather get the basic functions done.
And I'm willing to donate, and to help in any way to promote this project.
I tried a similar thing with my LG optimus 2x (I have model p-999 which is really t-mobile's g2x) by accident. Even though the variations are named optimus 2x and the specs are almost identical, firmwares just aren't compatible with one another.
I flashed a optimus 2x firmware (p-990) to my p999 and I bricked my phone. At this point, even clockworkmod could not recover it. I had to manually partition a t-mobile g2x recovery file one by one on DOS mode to fix this. Finding this solution was like finding a needle in a haysack. I thought there was a good chance that I flushed $400 down the drain when this happened.
So, lol I dont recommend it knowing that gs2 is even a higher price to pay. Hope this helped.
it's something that I almost gave a try and then decided to check in here to see what people say about flashing these roms.. lol. Thanks guys
Lol I actually did try to flash cm for the i9100 on this phone, but thankfully it only gave me an error and didn't actually go through with the flash. (I had literally gotten the phone the day before too lmao)
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i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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It sounds like youve got porting perfectly understood. The devs havent been able to do it, you should explain how porting works to them.
The problem is not just the kernel. The software is most likely compiled specifically for the processor. If you were talking about linux . . . it would be easy because the source code is there and you can compile it for whatever processor you want, but it seems Samsung is a a company who believes in leeching off off open source and mixing their proprietary crap in it then keeping the sources closed and giving the open source community the finger. Just look at how they handled the vertical lines screen issue. Its all about money to Samsung.
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It sounds like youve got porting perfectly understood. The devs havent been able to do it, you should explain how porting works to them.
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Dude no need to be a punk, I seriously dislike people like you who make forums negative. He was asking a question and is trying to learn, which is more than some people do. Keep your negative comments to yourself. If you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all.
This thread was started in 2011, and hasn't been active in over 7 months. There is no need to bring it back from the dead to argue with someone.
Its not as impossible as it may seem(for the experienced dev) if u look in the dev section android88 has ported hellybean from the 9100. I'm learning & I've only gotten a bootloop at worse, haven't bricked yet lol.
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It is possible with a port. The thing that brocks your phone in flashing an i9100 ROM is the kernel. If you switched the kernels, you'll just have a boot loop or no boot. Flashing another devices kernel is the killer.
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letrain02 said:
i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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Its not that easy. It the more similar to porting over a ROM for a Sony Xperia. Does that sound easy. Its just a name but inside very different
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It is possible with a port. The thing that brocks your phone in flashing an i9100 ROM is the kernel. If you switched the kernels, you'll just have a boot loop or no boot. Flashing another devices kernel is the killer.
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Oh god not true at all people have already bricked their phone by flashing i9100 ROMS. Needs to be said before somebody bricks their expensive device.
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Dude no need to be a punk, I seriously dislike people like you who make forums negative. He was asking a question and is trying to learn, which is more than some people do. Keep your negative comments to yourself. If you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all.
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Its just logic. If its that easy try it and youll learn the inside out of why. Put in a similar amount effort you are asking the dev to put in by learning something about the challenges you are asking the dev to overcome instead of assuming devs arent putting enough thought into it
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Its not that easy. It the more similar to porting over a ROM for a Sony Xperia. Does that sound easy. Its just a name but inside very different
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Oh god not true at all people have already bricked their phone by flashing i9100 ROMS. Needs to be said before somebody bricks their expensive device.
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Its just logic. If its that easy try it and youll learn the inside out of why. Put in a similar amount effort you are asking the dev to put in by learning something about the challenges you are asking the dev to overcome instead of assuming devs arent putting enough thought into it
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i9100 roms port fine to t989 if you know what your doing. Getting BT to work is being a pita for me though
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i9100 roms port fine to t989 if you know what your doing. Getting BT to work is being a pita for me though
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Where are these ports?
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Which is the CM version for Galaxy Wonder that is extremely stable & on which everything works (like in stock)?
I am a newbie so plz excuse if my question reeks of ignorance.
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Which is the CM version for Galaxy Wonder that is extremely stable & on which everything works (like in stock)?
I am a newbie so plz excuse if my question reeks of ignorance.
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I'm sorry, please excuse me too.
but being newbie does not justify your ignorance. read the forum posts.
EDIT: Check the development section, read the threads
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reidzeibel said:
I'm sorry, please excuse me too.
but being newbie does not justify your ignorance. read the forum posts.
EDIT: Check the development section, read the threads
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agreed with this one. quick answer from me:for now, none of CM has been perfectly works. all of cm still in alpha version. when it becomes stable, it should be work perfectly. check out this page if you want to read more. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576874
Thanks to both who answered. I did read the forum posts before asking in here but got lost in the sheet bulk of info here!
That is why I needed to clarify if I understood the prior research correctly.
Am not sure yet if there is any older ROM (CM7) for Galaxy W on which everything works, especially the camera which I use often.
Am hoping for ICS based ROM else a GB version in the meantime ... which I am actually asking about in here.
Thanks.
itismeonline said:
Thanks to both who answered. I did read the forum posts before asking in here but got lost in the sheet bulk of info here!
That is why I needed to clarify if I understood the prior research correctly.
Am not sure yet if there is any older ROM (CM7) for Galaxy W on which everything works, especially the camera which I use often.
Am hoping for ICS based ROM else a GB version in the meantime ... which I am actually asking about in here.
Thanks.
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I know, that bulk of info is actually a history of the development process, If you did read it carefully and slowly, You'll understand every "flaws" on the current CM. Thats what XDA really is, a place to read and learn about Mobile development for those who are not a developer.
CM 7 has a buggy wifi, CM 9 still on alpha, camera buggy. I don't really know as I have never flashed them before, waiting for a stable release as I'm using wifi and camera extensively.
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Thanks. Your comments helped a lot cuz i did not manage to figure out that Wifi was buggy in CM7.
I have a question:
Is the CM7 for Galaxy Wonder just Wifi buggy or is it for all the phones e.g. Galaxy S2, etc.??
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Thanks. Your comments helped a lot cuz i did not manage to figure out that Wifi was buggy in CM7.
I have a question:
Is the CM7 for Galaxy Wonder just Wifi buggy or is it for all the phones e.g. Galaxy S2, etc.??
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Other phones with a completed CM7 Development has no major issues on their phone, thus, only the ones with unfinished development still has this bug, maybe other phones also had this issue, I did not know. My friend with LG Optimus P500 has a completed CM7 and it has no major issues, other friend with Galaxy S i9000 has a complete CM7 and no major issues.
If the CM7 for Galaxy Wonder is finished, I'm sure that there will be no major bugs
But as I know, CM7 may be stuck there unless we got a new developer to do it, since the current developer had moved to CM10 after the CM7 Alpha 3
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But as I know, CM7 may be stuck there unless we got a new developer to do it, since the current developer had moved to CM10 after the CM7 Alpha 3
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You're right, it's stuck.
MyDeSTiNaTe said:
But as I know, CM7 may be stuck there unless we got a new developer to do it, since the current developer had moved to CM10 after the CM7 Alpha 3
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Developer forum is developer forum, they develop, if what they develop is useful to other user, it is a benefit, if not, well it's their gathering place. XDA is not a place to make ROMs,it is a developer forum, so,no need to worry about it. When it (a ROM) is finished, it is finished
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i think CM9 from acro is the most powerful and stable, they always provide us with better patch and improvements,
just wait until USB tethering and FM radio working on this ROM, so far, i'm not facing any force close warning with this rom
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Developer forum is developer forum, they develop, if what they develop is useful to other user, it is a benefit, if not, well it's their gathering place. XDA is not a place to make ROMs,it is a developer forum, so,no need to worry about it. When it (a ROM) is finished, it is finished
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But I believe that if more developers are working on the same development, the progress may be faster, since they can get some helps rather than doing all by themselves, which is pretty heavy, really thankful to all the developers!
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But I believe that if more developers are working on the same development, the progress may be faster, since they can get some helps rather than doing all by themselves, which is pretty heavy, really thankful to all the developers!
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this, only works if there are lots of developer available. Our phone does not have this luxury, so we must do whatever we can to support the development.
IMHO, If we cannot develop, try to reproduce bugs and supply logcats to the devs, if we can't provide logcats, at least don't clutter the development thread with questions. I think it is one way to thank the devs
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reidzeibel said:
this, only works if there are lots of developer available. Our phone does not have this luxury, so we must do whatever we can to support the development.
IMHO, If we cannot develop, try to reproduce bugs and supply logcats to the devs, if we can't provide logcats, at least don't clutter the development thread with questions. I think it is one way to thank the devs
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Yea, my knowledge is still far away from developing, just try to do what we can to help
Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?
I'm getting ready to release my first ROM for this phone.
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Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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This^ Previous phone was the GNex and it was unbelievable how many variants and kangs there were for CM10, AOKP, etc. I ran a lot of them but in the end there wasn't all that much that was different from the original rom. In a lot of cases, the variant ran worse.
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Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees
I agree with what has been said already. Quality is better than quantity... My old S2 had about 194873 ^6 worth of different roms. Touchwiz this and AOSP that and don't forget the AOKP, with CM and a side of Sense ports. In the end I dropped myself on a really good rom called The Blu Kuban which was headed up by rujelus22 over in the Epic 4g Touch development forum. I ran that rom for about 18 months before I nix'd my device and went over to the red side here at Verizon. I heard he went forth to the S4 and has kept that rom's traditions alive. He was one dev who was helped by the many and made a rom that many made their daily drivers just like I did.
I know we have a good community over here as well as even before beaups dropped rumrunner on us we had a few devs tinkering with their roms.
Now remember! A community is only as good as the people around it. Support your devs any way you can if it's simple donations or a click of the thanks buttons. But most of all, be part of the community. List the bugs you find in the roms, mods, and tweaks. Help the devs make the best they can and we all prosper.
I'd still like to see old Sense on this phone. Like Sense 3 or 4.
I'd also like to see a CM variant built off Sense base. Like the old style ROMs that had all full Sense apk compatibility but no Sense launcher. Not sure if this is doable with Sense 5 though.
And last but not least, hopefully a dev will pick up Ubuntu Touch.
Just a daydreamin' wishlist.. lol
Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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you could port sense4+ to this phone (someone did it on the intl one) as the kernel base is the same (3.4.x)
dont know why you would really want to, but its possible
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Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees
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Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.
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Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.
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thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own
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thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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He did .. You must have not read it...
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He did .. You must have not read it...
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Here I was thinking it was truly reefer madness...lol
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Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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I know what he said is true and I don't care. CPU vs GPU. That interests me.
Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
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Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
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I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
Well then start now rjm....... Better now then never
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I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
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You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
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You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
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If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
rjmxtech said:
If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
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I have a feeling that we don't have to worry about Beanstalk
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
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shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
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It seems as though a lot of ROMs by that particular dev get abandoned eventually... but that's none of my business.
Yes AICP would be a great one to start on, first thing is first though, rjm, get yourself on a Linux VM or a Linux computer. Also, I hope you have some decent specs or it'll be hell trying to do it.
For example, I have an AMD FX-6350, so I have 6 cores in my system. I can allocate 4 to my VM
And you'll want some RAM, too. Like 8 GB so if you're using a VM you can allocate 4 as well.
For the distro I suggest using Linux Mint 64-bit (has to be 64-bit).
And I really hope your host OS is 64-bit, because otherwise you are probably incapable of compiling ROMs.
Best of luck!
P.S: I downloaded Carbon sources today. We'll see how that goes.
Oh also be sure you have PLENTY of free space, those sources love hogging space. I just cleaned out my old VM and set up a new one with 200 GB of space allocated. Thank God for Terabyte HDDs
Staying on topic, the L/5.0 SDK was released today. Approx. two weeks until the official Nexus release, and hopefully not too long until we get a taste of that afterwards.
KitKat was great (it felt like the smoothest Android experience ever when I flashed my first KK ROM) but I'm ready for Lollipop!
Material design looks interesting, although I gotta say... the circle triangle square virtual buttons aren't the best design choice imo. Maybe it's to make switching from an iPhone to an Android easier for the iUsers that find the current system to difficult to understand :laugh: They sure like their shapes of rounded edge squares and circles.
I'm not kidding, actually. A friend of mine steals my phone all the time and she cannot figure out PIE to save her life...
shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
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What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
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Maybe
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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I'm pretty sure Beanstalk only releases stable updates. From what I remember there aren't any nightlies, as it sometimes is months before a new update is released. That is another reason why I like Beanstalk better than other ROMs.
I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
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I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
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I think CM official support is close to vital for these ROMs, mainly for the kernel, but also because they update the device thingy you use to build ROMs I do believe.
I am 90% sure we will receive updates from CM though. They sure know how to take care of their devices.
Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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Hopefully.
Would Cyanogen Mod be interested in developing for this phone now that we have unlocked bootloader? Given the choice, I'd love Paranoid Android, but I went hold my breath.
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
BrokenROM https://github.com/BrokenROM/device_asus_moorefield
Seems that are only for ZE551ML I hope that will be compatible with ZE550ML
If someone can get pure AOSP or CM working, the ROMs will flow out like water... once a base is established building many ROMs is easy. If we get CM, then look for ROMs like Beanstalk, BlissPop, Carbon, , etc. to follow closely behind. Patience, it will happen...
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CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
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Yay! I really hope Paranoid Android follows suit. I LOVE Pa's Halo feature.
custom roms will help this phone.zenny 2 has one of the worst stock firmware optimization ever and seems like asus cant fix the problems.
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Cool! I see lots of potential ROM development for this phone!
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA Free mobile app
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Good to see Asus is showing commitment to this phone. Also great to see you guys are embracing the aftermarket ROM community. More vendors need to be supportive like this.
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Awesome! Is there/will there be collaboration with the developers regarding the kernel and device tree from ASUS as well? That would be key to have a fully-working custom ROM in the nearer future (versus the developers having to learn from scratch and sort of fend for themselves, kludging their way along and delaying the end goal).
So exciting!
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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CC: @TheSSJ, @shakalaca, @jrior001, @crpalmer, @sorg, @Harfainx, @vampirefo and other zf2 developers.. :victory:
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
Good thing to see Asus sharing to make custom ROMs efficient.
Already on Harfainx's ROM, can't wait to see things going even further.
SBFarooq said:
Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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Unfortunately in only responsible for North America and have no say for any other regions.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
I'll probably start development for this phone once i get it. Never worked with an x86 android device before but it sounds like a fun challenge
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
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Hi,
I've got some sort of situation here concerning building the kernel for ZF2 on my own. I downloaded the kernel source from ASUS website and followed the instructions one by one (download the android source code, use the appropriate toolchain, issue the kernel build command using fhd_defconfig, etc.
The phone boots and works good, BUT:
The phone never gets to deep sleep mode because of hsic_s3_wlock (kernel wakelock from USB HSIC). Could you please ask someone from the technical department to check what is causing this or if any config entry is missing? I am really starting to doubt that this is something I can influence at all