Hi
I have a Samsung Galaxy W, and you know that this device has such a little memory for apps and games.
I bought a 16 gb class 10 external sd and I was wonder if the memory swap mod could be a really useful operation.
I'm not usual to install lots of applications and games, (I really use only social apps) however sometimes I like to play some heavy-data games. So I need a help: do you suggest me to keep the sd as a default external memory, maybe trying to move the heavier apps in this external space with link2sd and other stuff, or it would be better to make the swap and then make the sd recognized as internal memory?
I read that sometimes the swap operation causes lags and some other stuff, so I need your opinions and suggests.
Thanks in advice
Some custom ROMs automatically swap /sdcard/ with /sdcard/external_sd/
You could try that, it's a great solution IMHO.
Did you try "GL to SD(root)"? Download it from the market... It just mount the external SD as the sdcard, but temporarily. And it also moves game data to external SD.
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Also bugs me as well. I just bought 32gb class 10 card and i am using cow bionic 2 rom. But i already changed the vold.fstab folder back to stock. I would be the same not a heavy app storer. If i dont use the app any more i delete it.
But supposedly if you have a class 10 card you should not experience any lag if you have the swap done?? How true this is i dont know
maybe i'll find this useful for heavy data games like generation of chaos or other apps/games that install themselves on the internal storage and not on the sd card, other than that, i seriously don't know what other advantage it can provide
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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Care to explain about the script you wrote. Also whats GL?? I wouldnt use any big games so no point in me swapping. But if any roms i flash to the phone has this done ill not bother changing it back to stock. Also is class 10 not the highest micro sd card you can get??
snwman said:
Care to explain about the script you wrote. Also whats GL?? I wouldnt use any big games so no point in me swapping. But if any roms i flash to the phone has this done ill not bother changing it back to stock. Also is class 10 not the highest micro sd card you can get??
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Yes, class 10 is the fastest writing speed for MicroSD at this moment.
I used script manager to create a script for mounting and give it SU and set it on boot. It is very simple.
Create a new script file and type the following:
(I used the Android folder as example)
Code:
mount -o bind sdcard/external_sd/Android sdcard/Android
This is for gameloft
Code:
mount -o bind sdcard/external_sd/gameloft sdcard/gameloft
After creating these, u need to cut the files in Android or gameloft from internal sdcard and paste them to the new location on external sd. Leave the original folders empty.
Remember to set them "boot" and "su".
enjoy
Edit: if u download any other games that stores its data in Android folder, it will automatically move to ur external sd card as the script has mounted the path to external sd since every boot.
yewsiong said:
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
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But, in a swap situation, on the Wonder, Apps are not moved to External SD Card........
without swap they are moved to /sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure folder
with swap, moved Apps should be on re-mapped internal SD, so removing SD Card should not have any effect on Apps...
of course App Data should be on External [Removable] SD Card...re-mapped as /sdcard
It seems to me, for game players, Game Loft, etc.....Gl to SD is the ideal solution....****see also EDIT below****
Video for Wonder Here:
****EDIT: Just to say, yewsiong script looks good for gamers, etc.....****
It's pretty useful if you're an avid gamer. Some games usually reach 400mb+. But if not, you could still use it for storing music and videos.
saphiecor said:
It's pretty useful if you're an avid gamer. Some games usually reach 400mb+. But if not, you could still use it for storing music and videos.
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Which solution do you mean......
see yewsiong post here
irishpancake said:
Which solution do you mean......
see yewsiong post here
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I think he meant without swapping, external sd can still be used as data, music, pics, etc. storage.
Go for it!
IMHO I see no cons whatsoever in performing the SD Card swap, just pros. I got my 32Gb Class 10 just for the swap... Check my signature links to see what I've done to my SGW...
a.fontenele said:
IMHO I see no cons whatsoever in performing the SD Card swap, just pros. I got my 32Gb Class 10 just for the swap... Check my signature links to see what I've done to my SGW...
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Hi,
I followed the method outlined in your signature (http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70) and now I can see about 15GB (I have a 16GB class 10 SD) available for apps on SD.
However, when I try to move an app to the SD by using App2SD, the app doesn't go to the 15GB partition. How do you do?
Thanks a lot.
[.::MDT::.] said:
Hi,
I followed the method outlined in your signature (http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70) and now I can see about 15GB (I have a 16GB class 10 SD) available for apps on SD.
However, when I try to move an app to the SD by using App2SD, the app doesn't go to the 15GB partition. How do you do?
Thanks a lot.
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Yeah... This is something I haven't found a solution for. Whenever you try to move an app, it goes to the USB Storage. Since we swapped memories, the app will be moved to the 1.7GB memory. For me it'd be great to have everything in the Micro SD card, the 1.7 GB memory is useless to me...
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Yeah... This is something I haven't found a solution for. Whenever you try to move an app, it goes to the USB Storage. Since we swapped memories, the app will be moved to the 1.7GB memory. For me it'd be great to have everything in the Micro SD card, the 1.7 GB memory is useless to me...
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Yeah, that's a real pity! :crying:
I wonder what's the point of doing so, if the memory available for the apps still remains the 1,7GB partition... why swapping partitions then?
Do you have any idea if there is any ROM that lets you install apps in the "bigger partition" (the 14,3 GB according to the example above) or are you aware of any other possible solution?
Thanks.
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Yeah, that's a real pity! :crying:
I wonder what's the point of doing so, if the memory available for the apps still remains the 1,7GB partition... why swapping partitions then?
Do you have any idea if there is any ROM that lets you install apps in the "bigger partition" (the 14,3 GB according to the example above) or are you aware of any other possible solution?
Thanks.
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But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
First of all, thanks a lot for your answer!
irishpancake said:
But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
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Yep, that's exactly what I would like to have!
I bought a 16GB card to install many maps and games, but I quickly ran out of memory so I cannot add anymore apps (without removing already installed apps of course).
That's why I would like to use my SD card for apps - if possible of course!
And it's a pity I have 15GB free (for what? Just my music/video/pictures?) and I cannot use this space for apps.
What are the other ways to achieve this you mentioned?
It'd be really helpful!
irishpancake said:
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
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Yes, I found the same instructions on this forum, you're right...
hmm
Swapping Internal/External is the most important for those HD gamers :good:
irishpancake said:
But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
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Dhada said:
Swapping Internal/External is the most important for those HD gamers :good:
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I agree... any news about that then?
Thanks a lot!
thanks God i successfully installed cwm and my phone rooted, now i want to swap my 16g external to internal, thats the prob, is there any easiest way to do that? i used to use same technique for my lated phone, but its failed, and i tried use some apk call external 2 internal, and it dont happend, failed,,, uh, can someone guide me...
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thanks God i successfully installed cwm and my phone rooted, now i want to swap my 16g external to internal, thats the prob, is there any easiest way to do that? i used to use same technique for my lated phone, but its failed, and i tried use some apk call external 2 internal, and it dont happend, failed,,, uh, can someone guide me...
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if you want space specifically so that you can play/install more then 1 hd games, then use gl to sd...it will move ur game data from phone to memory card and all you have to do is open gl sd app and Mount game and play...... that way you can have as many games you want.. i have fifa14 mc4 and asphalt 8 @ same time.. thanks to this app ..
hope i helped.....
hanafi200 said:
thanks God i successfully installed cwm and my phone rooted, now i want to swap my 16g external to internal, thats the prob, is there any easiest way to do that? i used to use same technique for my lated phone, but its failed, and i tried use some apk call external 2 internal, and it dont happend, failed,,, uh, can someone guide me...
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swapping method only works in JB 4.1.2 not in 4.4(CM11) or OFFCIAL JB 4.2.2 as the workaround is that you can download GL2SD which actually mounts the particular folder for you to play the game with data on external SD card...but remember before installing any game you have to have to place data FIRST in internal sd card then TRANSFER the data through and only through the APP(gl2sd) and game will work fine..
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raghavsharmaxda said:
if you want space specifically so that you can play/install more then 1 hd games, then use gl to sd...it will move ur game data from phone to memory card and all you have to do is open gl sd app and Mount game and play...... that way you can have as many games you want.. i have fifa14 mc4 and asphalt 8 @ same time.. thanks to this app ..
hope i helped.....
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thanks a lot, but now im using folder mount, i believe its has same function as gl to sd, where can mount installed hd games to sd card, hehehhee, now i have fifa2014, and 3 more hd games, thanks :laugh:
I have a game that have .obb game data. Will this work if i put it in external SD Card (Android>Obb) Because i dont have space in device storage
Gamer11 said:
I have a game that have .obb game data. Will this work if i put it in external SD Card (Android>Obb) Because i dont have space in device storage
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Use FolderMount from playstore: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
I have 3 games with 2GB each, and still have 2.7GB free in the internal memory.
My device is not rooted
luisbraz said:
Use FolderMount from playstore: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
I have 3 games with 2GB each, and still have 2.7GB free in the internal memory.
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My device is not rooted.
Gamer11 said:
My device is not rooted.
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Well, now you have a reason to root it!
I.e. can't be done without root as the stock ROM does not have support for it
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I.e. can't be done without root as the stock ROM does not have support for it
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You cant do it without root...
Hello everyone, i have question, i have sony xperia M with android 4.3, full rooted, my question is i want play games like GTA, NOVA3 etc., im using foldermount but i have games like thor who have 1gb, gta has 2.5 gb and i cant get obb file to internal storage can someone tell me how i can use foldermount when obb files is in sd card and not in internal storage ? Thanks for reply.
Exiper said:
Hello everyone, i have question, i have sony xperia M with android 4.3, full rooted, my question is i want play games like GTA, NOVA3 etc., im using foldermount but i have games like thor who have 1gb, gta has 2.5 gb and i cant get obb file to internal storage can someone tell me how i can use foldermount when obb files is in sd card and not in internal storage ? Thanks for reply.
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there are two option...
use sd swap..no need of foldermount
if u want foldermount...create a folder[just empty folder no need to paste .obb] with exact name as in game obb folder in internal [sdcard0/android/obb]...then refresh foldermount and u can create link with that..
ansebovi said:
there are two option...
use sd swap..no need of foldermount
if u want foldermount...create a folder[just empty folder no need to paste .obb] with exact name as in game obb folder in internal [sdcard0/android/obb]...then refresh foldermount and u can create link with that..
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Can you tell little "tutorial" of second option ? im new of foldermount, i had swaped memory on 4.1.2 but now on 4.3 i all time got bootlop thanks
Hi everybody;
so, i have a G4 815, and i want to move obb files to external sd card.
you have to know that foldermount does not work anymore with lollipop 5.1
if you have any suggestion i'll take it
thanks a lot
Have you tried settings -> apps -> select the app, and then select "move to SD card"?
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Have you tried settings -> apps -> select the app, and then select "move to SD card"?
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of course, but you will ble to move a little part of the game..
the obb file (which is the biggest file in the game) stay in the phone.
Try folder mount
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Try folder mount
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read my original message!!!!!
shnapi said:
read my original message!!!!!
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I just moved 1.8GB to ext sd using foldermount. What exactly doesn't work?
slonn said:
I just moved 1.8GB to ext sd using foldermount. What exactly doesn't work?
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i had installed foldermount 2.8.2 premium, i moved the obb file, but when i launch the game it tell me you have to download it again