Hi
I have a Samsung Galaxy W, and you know that this device has such a little memory for apps and games.
I bought a 16 gb class 10 external sd and I was wonder if the memory swap mod could be a really useful operation.
I'm not usual to install lots of applications and games, (I really use only social apps) however sometimes I like to play some heavy-data games. So I need a help: do you suggest me to keep the sd as a default external memory, maybe trying to move the heavier apps in this external space with link2sd and other stuff, or it would be better to make the swap and then make the sd recognized as internal memory?
I read that sometimes the swap operation causes lags and some other stuff, so I need your opinions and suggests.
Thanks in advice
Some custom ROMs automatically swap /sdcard/ with /sdcard/external_sd/
You could try that, it's a great solution IMHO.
Did you try "GL to SD(root)"? Download it from the market... It just mount the external SD as the sdcard, but temporarily. And it also moves game data to external SD.
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Also bugs me as well. I just bought 32gb class 10 card and i am using cow bionic 2 rom. But i already changed the vold.fstab folder back to stock. I would be the same not a heavy app storer. If i dont use the app any more i delete it.
But supposedly if you have a class 10 card you should not experience any lag if you have the swap done?? How true this is i dont know
maybe i'll find this useful for heavy data games like generation of chaos or other apps/games that install themselves on the internal storage and not on the sd card, other than that, i seriously don't know what other advantage it can provide
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
yewsiong said:
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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Care to explain about the script you wrote. Also whats GL?? I wouldnt use any big games so no point in me swapping. But if any roms i flash to the phone has this done ill not bother changing it back to stock. Also is class 10 not the highest micro sd card you can get??
snwman said:
Care to explain about the script you wrote. Also whats GL?? I wouldnt use any big games so no point in me swapping. But if any roms i flash to the phone has this done ill not bother changing it back to stock. Also is class 10 not the highest micro sd card you can get??
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Yes, class 10 is the fastest writing speed for MicroSD at this moment.
I used script manager to create a script for mounting and give it SU and set it on boot. It is very simple.
Create a new script file and type the following:
(I used the Android folder as example)
Code:
mount -o bind sdcard/external_sd/Android sdcard/Android
This is for gameloft
Code:
mount -o bind sdcard/external_sd/gameloft sdcard/gameloft
After creating these, u need to cut the files in Android or gameloft from internal sdcard and paste them to the new location on external sd. Leave the original folders empty.
Remember to set them "boot" and "su".
enjoy
Edit: if u download any other games that stores its data in Android folder, it will automatically move to ur external sd card as the script has mounted the path to external sd since every boot.
yewsiong said:
Of course, swapping is a good solution for huge games data storing on external sd and u own a class 10 sd card which is fast enough for swapping. However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
GL to sd is a better solution to me personally. I wrote a similar script instead of using GL to sd. This mounts certain paths to ur external sd card while keeping other important apps such as launcher, theme, widgets, on the internal sd.
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However, this may cause problem when u want to remove sd card as most of the apps are stored on it.
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But, in a swap situation, on the Wonder, Apps are not moved to External SD Card........
without swap they are moved to /sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure folder
with swap, moved Apps should be on re-mapped internal SD, so removing SD Card should not have any effect on Apps...
of course App Data should be on External [Removable] SD Card...re-mapped as /sdcard
It seems to me, for game players, Game Loft, etc.....Gl to SD is the ideal solution....****see also EDIT below****
Video for Wonder Here:
****EDIT: Just to say, yewsiong script looks good for gamers, etc.....****
It's pretty useful if you're an avid gamer. Some games usually reach 400mb+. But if not, you could still use it for storing music and videos.
saphiecor said:
It's pretty useful if you're an avid gamer. Some games usually reach 400mb+. But if not, you could still use it for storing music and videos.
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Which solution do you mean......
see yewsiong post here
irishpancake said:
Which solution do you mean......
see yewsiong post here
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I think he meant without swapping, external sd can still be used as data, music, pics, etc. storage.
Go for it!
IMHO I see no cons whatsoever in performing the SD Card swap, just pros. I got my 32Gb Class 10 just for the swap... Check my signature links to see what I've done to my SGW...
a.fontenele said:
IMHO I see no cons whatsoever in performing the SD Card swap, just pros. I got my 32Gb Class 10 just for the swap... Check my signature links to see what I've done to my SGW...
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Hi,
I followed the method outlined in your signature (http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70) and now I can see about 15GB (I have a 16GB class 10 SD) available for apps on SD.
However, when I try to move an app to the SD by using App2SD, the app doesn't go to the 15GB partition. How do you do?
Thanks a lot.
[.::MDT::.] said:
Hi,
I followed the method outlined in your signature (http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70) and now I can see about 15GB (I have a 16GB class 10 SD) available for apps on SD.
However, when I try to move an app to the SD by using App2SD, the app doesn't go to the 15GB partition. How do you do?
Thanks a lot.
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Yeah... This is something I haven't found a solution for. Whenever you try to move an app, it goes to the USB Storage. Since we swapped memories, the app will be moved to the 1.7GB memory. For me it'd be great to have everything in the Micro SD card, the 1.7 GB memory is useless to me...
a.fontenele said:
Yeah... This is something I haven't found a solution for. Whenever you try to move an app, it goes to the USB Storage. Since we swapped memories, the app will be moved to the 1.7GB memory. For me it'd be great to have everything in the Micro SD card, the 1.7 GB memory is useless to me...
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Yeah, that's a real pity! :crying:
I wonder what's the point of doing so, if the memory available for the apps still remains the 1,7GB partition... why swapping partitions then?
Do you have any idea if there is any ROM that lets you install apps in the "bigger partition" (the 14,3 GB according to the example above) or are you aware of any other possible solution?
Thanks.
[.::MDT::.] said:
Yeah, that's a real pity! :crying:
I wonder what's the point of doing so, if the memory available for the apps still remains the 1,7GB partition... why swapping partitions then?
Do you have any idea if there is any ROM that lets you install apps in the "bigger partition" (the 14,3 GB according to the example above) or are you aware of any other possible solution?
Thanks.
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But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
First of all, thanks a lot for your answer!
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But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
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Yep, that's exactly what I would like to have!
I bought a 16GB card to install many maps and games, but I quickly ran out of memory so I cannot add anymore apps (without removing already installed apps of course).
That's why I would like to use my SD card for apps - if possible of course!
And it's a pity I have 15GB free (for what? Just my music/video/pictures?) and I cannot use this space for apps.
What are the other ways to achieve this you mentioned?
It'd be really helpful!
irishpancake said:
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
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Yes, I found the same instructions on this forum, you're right...
hmm
Swapping Internal/External is the most important for those HD gamers :good:
irishpancake said:
But, as I said before here ad nauseam, the External Physical SD Card is where Apps moved by App2SD are designed to go......so before doing a vold.fstab mount point swap, ppl should ask themselves.......
Do I really need a gigantic Internal USB Storage at [/mnt/sdcard], for what reason do I need this??
I think myself, that this is only useful for those who require to have Storage requirements for certain Games and GPS Maps Storage, etc, which do not have a built-in ability to store data on the External Physical SD Card [/mount/sdcard/external_sd]....but there are other ways to achieve this!!!
BTW, the Tutorial linked http://latgale.co.uk/?p=70 is by Eric Pīgoznis, who posted here in the very early days!!!
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Dhada said:
Swapping Internal/External is the most important for those HD gamers :good:
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I agree... any news about that then?
Thanks a lot!
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Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
mobad said:
Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
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the linux kernal will close apps when it needs to but that has very little to do with where the apps actually reside.
you need to partition your card with rom manager from the market in order to enable apps2sd( not the crappy froyo apps2sd mind)
copy the contents of your card at the moment to your pc. downlaod rom manager from the market, use it to partition your card with 512mb and 32mb swap. then dowload modinstalllocation from the market, this will allow you to chose where you save your apps too. choose 1 internal( ie the 512mb ext 3 partition for apps2sd you made with rom manager). copy all your content back to your sd card. all your apps should now be in your ext3 partition. if you really want to move apps to the actual sd card main partition, choose location 2 phone with modinstallocation but beware that whenever you mount the sd card those apps wont work till its remounted( its wise not to put widgets on the sd card). to check all this info and make sure apps2sd is working correctly you can downlaod quick settings info from the market and it will give you all the info you need on internal and apps2sd storage on your phone.
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
mobad said:
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
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That is correct. If you are using legacy Apps2SD or Froyo Apps2SD, the Dalvik cache (see here) remains on the internal phone memory.
So, when you install a new application onto SD card, it will consume memory on internal phone memory, though at a lesser rate than if the app was installed on phone memory (in my experience, roughly half the rate).
The only way to "resolve" this is to install legacy Apps2SD+, which also moves the Dalvik cache to SD card.
Personally, I don't do this - what I do is actively manage my applications using Titanium backup. For example, I seldom use certain large apps such as Google Earth, and some games, but I do want to keep them available. So I install them on the phone, and then back them up using Titanium Backup. When storage is low, I will remove them from the phone, but I can bring them back quickly (and without using data) as required.
I don't use legacy Apps2SD+ because I do have several SD cards that I want to be able to swap between quickly.
Regards,
Dave
Dave - many thanks for your comprehensive and useful reply.
What would be the limitation for using Apps2SD+?
From your reply im assuming it would stop me from chaing sd cards?
Essentially yes - you'd need to keep the EXT partition across SD cards in sync, which while not impossible, is more difficult than just copying .android_secure folder from one card to another which I believe should work ok so long as being used in the same phone.
Regards,
Dave
Excellent.
I think im ready to set it all up.
Got two not technical final question for you -
Which rom would you recommend?
I'm currentl with Frost 2.9a however I found Modaco's custom rom to be mroe fruitful with apps/stability.
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
Thanks
mobad said:
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
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I regularly use two 16gb Class 2 Sandisk cards and a 8gb Class 6 Transcend card. To be honest, I've no performance issues with either and my Sandisk cards regular exceed Class 6 minimums. Personally, I see no point paying extra for a large capacity Class 6 or Class 10 card - I may try 720p recording on my Class 6 soon though to see if it improves the framerate, but I doubt there will be much if any difference.
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Dave
Hello!
I'm running Eclair on my DEFY, it's rooted via z4root.
I currently hold a 2GB microSD card and, as the volume of the apps is getting higher, I wish to upgrade to a 16GB microSD (a SunDisk one).
But I'm wondering if there's more to do then simply copy the apps to a temporary directory on my pc then fill in the new card.
Anyone has yet upgraded?
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
Anything else should I know?
Cheers,
C*
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
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--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
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Class 6/8 is not needed, my 8GB is a Class2 and it work absolutly fine!
For apps the data rate ofthe SD is not really important, 'cause u'll never load large amount off data each time. And SD card are still very very very slow against RAM.
Flash memory have good random access time, that's much important than data rate.
Good data rate are only for large file transfert from/to an other device (PC, etc)
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
Le_Poilu said:
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
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Fine, I thought there were some special "needings", I was stuck to the Motorola A1210 that was a bit tricly because of some apps hidden here and there on the microSD.
Le_Poilu said:
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
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Actually the major part of the apps is installed on the microSD, I've checked several times and the percentage is so parted:
Apps/Things on the microSD 85%
Apps/Things on the Phone 23%
I'm not using any program to move stuff, but I'm intrigued by App2SD.
So thanks again =)
add.thebad said:
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
No just copy the stuff from you old card to the new one. And as for class 6/8 I'm using a class 4 and its fine
etherea=> dont mix apps installation et apps data
The apps files are installed on the internal memory, but every app can use SD (intern or extern, whatever is present on the phone) for store datas.
Think about GPS software. This kind of soft need 1, 2 or more GB for maps storage.
The apps itself is on the "apps" space on the internal memory and all the maps stuff are on SD (intern or extern)
You can use software like diskusages to see what is where
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
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Apps are not stored on the sd, however some apps data is.
Well thank you both, I still need to read a lot about the phone and aout Android but your answers did clarify a bit =)
Then, I upgraded to a 8GB SanDisk microSD with no problem.
The only minor issue was a duplicate of a couple of non-vital directories and related data, which were wiped out almost in a second.
Everything's working fine and have now much more space to fill in =)
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and hints!
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
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Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
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Have you tried to pull it up?
It's a bit hard to get removed, try with a fine stick, I made it using my nails =)
Ok, so here is my question, sorry if it was asked, i used the search and couldn't find something like me.
So whenever I install games, many uses about 200-300MB of space, it will use my USB storage which its coming to a fill very soon, if i keep downloading new games. My question is, how can i make use of my 16GB SD card to install game files. And, I just re-read the GS2 box, and it saids it has 16BGB-32GB, is there a way i can upgrade the internal USB Storage, or what exactly did that mean?
The 16-32 Gbs are like iPhones they come with 16orll or 32 gbs units. Have you tried pushing the data from tthe gamed to the sdcard?
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I know i can copy it from USB to SD, or move, but i know that wont do what i want to do. Since it will be move, whenever i load the game and looks for the files, it wont look in the SD card, but the USB storage.
I thought the GS2 only came as a 16GB model. It will accept up to a 32GB microSD card and Android seems to be pretty intelligent about being able to find stuff on the external SD card if it's not in USB storage (internal). It finds my ringtones and images on my external SD card without me having to do anything.
If the apps/games you're using aren't enabled for being moved to the SD card (Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/On SD Card) then you'll have to find some other way to make space, perhaps moving your images to the external SD and configuring the camera app to store images there, or uninstalling apps.
it can actually use larger than 64 GB microSD see my HowTo guide
I'm curious as well because some titles like Asphalt 6 and GTA 3 download much more data than the .apk was to download.
For instance GTA3 from the market is 12.93MB, and if you move to external SD Card, you're moving only 13MB, but the game data to download is around 450MB and where's that stored? I have an external 32 and I'd rather prefer to store everything on that primarily.
I was so seeing the same thing. I have 32gb SD card and I would to find a workaround for this silly issue. Any input would be awesome!
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On a regular linux system, it would be a simple matter of finding the folder where the data files were stored, copying them to a new drive and then configure /etc/fstab to mount the new drive on top of the data file folder.
not sure if this is possible with Android and would require root if it were possible.
mayhem204 said:
I was so seeing the same thing. I have 32gb SD card and I would to find a workaround for this silly issue. Any input would be awesome!
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imabug said:
On a regular linux system, it would be a simple matter of finding the folder where the data files were stored, copying them to a new drive and then configure /etc/fstab to mount the new drive on top of the data file folder.
not sure if this is possible with Android and would require root if it were possible.
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yes, it's that simple indeed
just check out my HOWTO guide, it's in the INDEX stickied
tried app2sd?
sorry for the delay respond to all.I was away from a computer for awhile. So, i see all this talk, and it has helped me understand a bit more. I actually decided to delete some already beaten games to make space.
In regards to the pics and music, they have always been in my SD card. But i will download app2sd and see if it works. The actual app itself does not bother me. Most of the time, they are very little. Is the download after what does bother me. Most games need from 300mb to nearly 1Gb of space. Now thats a lot, when a phone comes only wiht 11.5GB of 16GB and we know why that happens.
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Ok, so here is my question, sorry if it was asked, i used the search and couldn't find something like me.
So whenever I install games, many uses about 200-300MB of space, it will use my USB storage which its coming to a fill very soon, if i keep downloading new games. My question is, how can i make use of my 16GB SD card to install game files. And, I just re-read the GS2 box, and it saids it has 16BGB-32GB, is there a way i can upgrade the internal USB Storage, or what exactly did that mean?
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you cant upgrade internal but u can always put an sd card in for extrernal
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sorry for the delay respond to all.I was away from a computer for awhile. So, i see all this talk, and it has helped me understand a bit more. I actually decided to delete some already beaten games to make space.
In regards to the pics and music, they have always been in my SD card. But i will download app2sd and see if it works. The actual app itself does not bother me. Most of the time, they are very little. Is the download after what does bother me. Most games need from 300mb to nearly 1Gb of space. Now thats a lot, when a phone comes only wiht 11.5GB of 16GB and we know why that happens.
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app2sd is not going to help you, if you already have the stuff installed to SD card
those cheesy App2SD apps only shows you which Apps can be moved to SD
you need Link2SD the real deal, the one that actually convert stuff over to the hidden partition in your SD card to use as Internal memory, which you are short on
just look up my HOWTO guide, it's stickied in the INDEX topic
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
jonneepuh said:
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
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I'm not sure if this is present in stock images, but if you go into System -> Apps and select an app, there should be a "Move to SD card" option in there. (This has, AFAICR, been present in stock Android as of ICS.)
jonneepuh said:
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
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you cannot really move apps to sd cards but there is an app called "gl to sd" it will move gameloft games to the sd card because they can be fairly big in size and also you have to be rooted to use the app
i am on cm10 official.
i heard google and samsung were taking away the feature to move apps to sd card.
any work around with using cm10?
jonneepuh said:
is there a way that i can move my apps to sd card. I tried using app2sd programs but they did not let me move my apps. please help my 16gb internal storage is getting smaller.
thanks
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jonneepuh said:
i am on cm10 official.
i heard google and samsung were taking away the feature to move apps to sd card.
any work around with using cm10?
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Allow me to preface this by stating that a simple search would have yielded your answer in all likelihood. Please do learn to fish, lest you starve.
There is a method of swapping the internal storage with an SD card via a script, provided you have init.d support. I've tried a variety of ROMs from stock onward and never found an issue with init.d, so it shouldn't realistically matter. Depending upon the ROM, the mounts tend to vary but the script I took and modified accounts for said variations. It's really a rather simple deal, given that you are on CM10 my current iteration should work for you without modification or issue. Be advised that my alterations stem from a script that came from this thread and all credit for the original concept is not due to me, I only modified the script in order to make it compatible with other ROMs and to mitigate the differing mount points. It also goes without saying that I am not responsible for your device melting down or your cat bursting into fire. If you're interested in the modifications I have made to the script let me know and I'll be happy to build a CWM flashable zip and give you further instruction, otherwise see the post previously referenced.
Do also note that the script WILL NOT enable you to move apps to the SD via Settings/Applications, it will basically cause the device to see the SD card as internal storage and the original internal storage as the SD, but only while the device is not in recovery. If you boot into recovery you must remain aware of the fact that your data will be on the external SD as they behave in a flip-flop manner. You must also be aware that you should not remove your SD card while using this modification if the device is on and not in recovery mode, bad things will happen (possibly the end of the world) I realize this was probably more information than you sought but it's better to have too much than not enough in my opinion.
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i am on cm10 official.
i heard google and samsung were taking away the feature to move apps to sd card.
any work around with using cm10?
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well i think phones that are running ics do not have the ability to move apps to an sd card without some sort of modification
y0yerrj0sh said:
well i think phones that are running ics do not have the ability to move apps to an sd card without some sort of modification
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Actually, due to the nature of the way that the S3 handles internal storage, whereby the "SD card" is actually just a mount that's bound to /data/media and not a physically separate storage medium, moving apps to the SD card has never and will not be implemented in the foreseeable future. To attempt to circumvent the fact that the standard method of moving apps from internal to external storage ("Move to SD") is rather misguided as you would gain nothing from having done so since the intent is to conserve space on the internal storage and given that the internal storage and "SD card" reside on the same physical device, you gain nothing. That is why the method I described in my previous post was originally conceived, so that S3 users might have some semblance of moving apps to an external SD and thus freeing up space on the internal storage.
I know there are many devices out there which don't allow this, but is there a workaround to get this working on my LG G Pad 8.3?
My device is rooted.
16gb is just not enough memory these days to have all the apps and games you want on the device at the same time. i have a 64gb external card and would love to use this space for app data.
I know there is a workaround where you can move the data you need to the external card and move it back when you want to use the app but in this day and age it seems ridiculous to have to do that!
any help would be greatly appreciated
nk33 said:
I know there are many devices out there which don't allow this, but is there a workaround to get this working on my LG G Pad 8.3?
My device is rooted.
16gb is just not enough memory these days to have all the apps and games you want on the device at the same time. i have a 64gb external card and would love to use this space for app data.
I know there is a workaround where you can move the data you need to the external card and move it back when you want to use the app but in this day and age it seems ridiculous to have to do that!
any help would be greatly appreciated
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Check out Link2SD. Works like a champ on mine.
clemson77on said:
Check out Link2SD. Works like a champ on mine.
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ok, I just installed that.
It shows NFS Most Wanted (for example) as movable. When I click "move to sd card" i get the message "App2SD is not supported by your device. Because your device has a primary external storage whcih is emulated from the internal storage. You can link the app in order to move its files to your sd card."
so i click ok to that, go back to my list of apps, long press on the app and click "create link" and it gives me the following message "secondary partition not found. make sure you have 2 partitions on your sd card and both are primary"
...now i dont know what to do...sorry
nk33 said:
ok, I just installed that.
It shows NFS Most Wanted (for example) as movable. When I click "move to sd card" i get the message "App2SD is not supported by your device. Because your device has a primary external storage whcih is emulated from the internal storage. You can link the app in order to move its files to your sd card."
so i click ok to that, go back to my list of apps, long press on the app and click "create link" and it gives me the following message "secondary partition not found. make sure you have 2 partitions on your sd card and both are primary"
...now i dont know what to do...sorry
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I had to format my SD card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I tried making the 2nd primary partition EXT2 format and it didn't work. I ended up having to use FAT32 format instead. Here's the guide I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
clemson77on said:
I had to format my SD card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I tried making the 2nd primary partition EXT2 format and it didn't work. I ended up having to use FAT32 format instead. Here's the guide I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
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ok, looks like I am gonna have to find some spare time to do this.
Not sure why anyone would want to restrict you to use Internal memory only on their device as it only makes it worth less....
Will this change naturally when an official 4.4.2 is released for this device?
Thanks for all your help
nk33 said:
ok, looks like I am gonna have to find some spare time to do this.
Not sure why anyone would want to restrict you to use Internal memory only on their device as it only makes it worth less....
Will this change naturally when an official 4.4.2 is released for this device?
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I have no idea. From what I hear, apps won't perform quite as good if they're on the external storage. If that's the case, they may be afraid that it will ruin the user experience. I just put apps that don't demand a ton of performance on my SD card so I can't verify if that's true.
But I like choices, so I wish they'd make it easier with a notice that performance may suffer or something. Also, Google is behind Android, and they want you storing data in the cloud, not on your device. That's why none of the Nexus devices have external storage.
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I have no idea. From what I hear, apps won't perform quite as good if they're on the external storage. If that's the case, they may be afraid that it will ruin the user experience. I just put apps that don't demand a ton of performance on my SD card so I can't verify if that's true.
But I like choices, so I wish they'd make it easier with a notice that performance may suffer or something. Also, Google is behind Android, and they want you storing data in the cloud, not on your device. That's why none of the Nexus devices have external storage.
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well storing data in the cloud is fine as long as its not data thats needed to run apps. one step forward 2 steps back!
this device is perfect (and IMO the best in its size at the moment) apart from 2 things
1) this sd issue right here
2) they should have given it an AMOLED screed instead of LCD
clemson77on said:
Check out Link2SD. Works like a champ on mine.
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Do you have to be rooted for this app to work?
allbroncos said:
Do you have to be rooted for this app to work?
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Yes
clemson77on said:
I had to format my SD card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I tried making the 2nd primary partition EXT2 format and it didn't work. I ended up having to use FAT32 format instead. Here's the guide I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
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ok, I found some time to sit down and do this, but before I got started I had a quick read of the instructions.
Am I correct in saying that the maximum I can make this partition to install apps on is 2gb? If that is the case then its not even worth doing as my card is 64gb...
......Ooooor is it the case that the 1st partition has to be 2gb but i can use the rest of the card to install apps??
thanks in advance
nk33 said:
ok, I found some time to sit down and do this, but before I got started I had a quick read of the instructions.
Am I correct in saying that the maximum I can make this partition to install apps on is 2gb? If that is the case then its not even worth doing as my card is 64gb...
......Ooooor is it the case that the 1st partition has to be 2gb but i can use the rest of the card to install apps??
thanks in advance
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That's not the case on mine.
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That's not the case on mine.
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i am referring to the link you gave me. the instructions state not to make the partition larger than 2gb.
FolderMount is more what you want. It does not require a special format, and it moves the data which is what really takes up the space. For example Bards Tale has over 3.5GB of data, and it moves ALL of that. The applications themselves hardly take up any space. It even survives rom updates like updating CM11 nightlies for example. I uninstalled Link2SD. It didn't move much, and caused problems when I did ROM updates.
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FolderMount is more what you want. It does not require a special format, and it moves the data which is what really takes up the space. For example Bards Tale has over 3.5GB of data, and it moves ALL of that. The applications themselves hardly take up any space. It even survives rom updates like updating CM11 nightlies for example. I uninstalled Link2SD. It didn't move much, and caused problems when I did ROM updates.
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C0BRA01 you are a legend!!
Tried, tested and confirm working on my V500 with NFS Most Wanted!!
One thing i noticed though is that the program "Disk Usage" still picks it up as data on device even though it is not there. Used SD card analyst in ES File explorer with root permissions and data is not on device.
This is fantastic!! i now have a potential 64gb of space!!