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Poor media experience

I dont know if its just my desire but the media experience is terrible.
Using YourMuze.fm to stream music, every stream stops at 5 minutes, tried using the flash via the browser on the bbc iplayer website to listen to radio - not enough bandwidth, I'm on 7MB wifi!! So tried the beebplayer app, it doesnt work for radio (does say its sketchy for radio) but the picture quality is pants. So that begs the question to reviewers what flash sites were they using as my experience is shocking! The IMDB app for iphone allows watching of trailers at full screen and in great quality. The IMDB website accessed via the desire browser gives a flash video at 75% screen size and poorer quality than the iphone!
The screen is 800 x 480 yet any video I have at MP4 640 x 480 at .h264 say works perfect but anything over that, i.e 720 x 480 at h.264 wont work without me re-encoding.
Also any internet streaming site that supports the iphone is not supported by the browser so any form of online video wont work, why not if android is competing with the iphone do the basics!
For media this thing sucks, as a phone and for maps it works amazing, why have they messed the media component up so badly?!

I'm fairly disapointed, I remember a friend had a G1 at launch and I used to taunt him with the fact I could play almost anything through CorePlayer on my Touch HD, I assumed when I bought a Desire though that Android would have progressed enough that I would have similar functionality.
It's not absoultely awful but I wish things were a bit better, I don't mind re-encoding videos and stuff but it would be nicer if I didn't have to.

Desire is a brand new phone and CorePlayer is being developed for the Desire, just need to be paitent.

Shouldn't be device specific.. make it for android 2.1 and possibly 2.2

[Q] Best video format?

i've never really watched videos on my phones (mostly due to screen size etc) but i figure now that I have the Galaxy Nexus i could watch a few things on it..
What would be the best video format to convert things to? I dropped an avi of a tv program onto it and it worked but it lagged a bit..

I just converted something to an HD mp4 using Permute for Mac, it bumped the filesize up about 100mb but tested it and it runs smooth in QuickPic or PlayerPro but when trying to use the built in video player (to get the true full screen) it plays for a second, stutters, then says it can't be played.. :S

has anyone managed to get moboplayer working ? says i need an arm7 neon codec - found that on their site ... followed instructions but it still wont work

Video playback may be a bit iffy until the apps are updated; one of the Diceplayer mob posted saying that it now supports HD playback for .mkv. They didn't mention .avi but that generally needs less resources than .avi so you could try your avi in Diceplayer.
The general trend in open source video development is towards .mkv, I'm trying that first.

I'd be surprised if much works well right out of the gate. The true beta is when the masses begin tinkering

vplayer seems to play avi nicely

Ill have to try it out.. downloading now

I've got the same question. And I don't mean what other player can I download to play movies. I mean what format can I encode videos in to get them to play in the native player. I did find the article below. I have tried each of these formats with no luck. Anyone know why Android can't play a movie out of the box?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
And I also tired MoboPlayer with no luck.

pretty much if you use a baseline .mp4 format you will be fine
basically:
h.264 video
LC-AAC audio
no CABAC
and you should be fine up to 1080p these settings work on all my android devices
just set mpeg 4 level 4 and it should take care of it by itself

noobdeagle said:
pretty much if you use a baseline .mp4 format you will be fine
basically:
h.264 video
LC-AAC audio
no CABAC
and you should be fine up to 1080p these settings work on all my android devices
just set mpeg 4 level 4 and it should take care of it by itself
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Thanks noobdeagle,
I have tired those settings on several encoders (handbrake, Adobe Media Encoder, Magic DVD ripper) and still no success. What software are you using to encode? and have you tried the movies on the galaxy nexus? Because I have never had a problem on any other Android devices. Just this one.
cj

gave up re-encoding videos.
vplayer has played everything ive thrown at it so far. the built in movie player seems very limited.

wilbur-force said:
gave up re-encoding videos.
vplayer has played everything ive thrown at it so far. the built in movie player seems very limited.
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I appreciate the feedback but I have two problems with this particular advice.
1 - Have you seen the permissions for that player? Why would a video player need access to my "Phone calls - Read phone status and identity" and "Your personal information - Read sensitive log data"? Really?
2 - Why the hell can't this phone play videos out of the box. <rant>I have, as I suspect a lot of us here do, a fair few friends that I would call iPhone fanboys. One of the biggest gripes I always hear about android is that every time you run into a problem on Android is the best answer is to root your phone and install cyanogen, or go get xxxx app and that will take care of it, or you should have bought this phone instead. So I get this phone and think that finally Android is going to hit the main stream and I can't even play a movie. WTF!</rant>
Like I said, I appreciate the feedback but I am still looking for a way to play a video in the default video player.
cj

chrisjaffe said:
Thanks noobdeagle,
I have tired those settings on several encoders (handbrake, Adobe Media Encoder, Magic DVD ripper) and still no success. What software are you using to encode? and have you tried the movies on the galaxy nexus? Because I have never had a problem on any other Android devices. Just this one.
cj
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no i have not tried on a galaxy nexus yet as that one week delay sim free means i wont be able to have mine in my hands untill at least next week :\,
i use mediacoder to encode videos, cant speak for the GN but ive used it for my xoom, nexus S, desire hd, htc legend and SGS 2 in the past (however SGS2 supported all codecs quite nicely anyway)
according to the android dev site the supported video list hasnt changed so this is quite strange.

noobdeagle said:
no i have not tried on a galaxy nexus yet as that one week delay sim free means i wont be able to have mine in my hands untill at least next week :\,
i use mediacoder to encode videos, cant speak for the GN but ive used it for my xoom, nexus S, desire hd, htc legend and SGS 2 in the past (however SGS2 supported all codecs quite nicely anyway)
according to the android dev site the supported video list hasnt changed so this is quite strange.
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Thanks for the info. I will seek out and try mediacoder.
FYI...I got my GN SIM free from Phones 4U. It was not easy though. I went in to a few stores before finding one that would sell it to me SIM free. And I think that I happened upon the manager at the store that did sell it to me. What makes it even better is that I am in the UK on business for a few months and so I can get the VAT back on my way out. Which makes it nearly 90 quid cheaper.
Thanks again,
cj

seems as if media coder works. Though that is one complicated program. You could get lost in those settings for days.
Thanks again.
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chrisjaffe said:
seems as if media coder works. Though that is one complicated program. You could get lost in those settings for days.
Thanks again.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Format factory works and it's easy as to use.

Format factory does seem to work and is a little easier to use. Thanks. And just in time too because Mediacoder was having some trouble iwth a few of the vids I had.
cj

HD Content on A100?

I am wondering if anyone else is having issues playing HD video on the A100. I have put multiple different HD files on the device itself and tried to play them in MX Media Player, but the playback is downright horrible. Even with hardware rendering. I really want to be able to play my media over my network, but right now, it is just waay too choppy to watch, even with it on the card. Is there something I am missing?

with HD you mean 1080p videos? if so, try Mobo Player, it works really god at fullHD videos (at least for me).

also streaming 1080p is sketchy at best on wifi..
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720p. And I am using mobo player
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stompysan said:
720p. And I am using mobo player
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well it is suppose that acer a100 suports fullHD, so try killing processes or cleaning cache. what's your android version? (3.2 or 3.2.1)

What audio s used on the files, I have noticed that 720p mkv movies using DTS for example will outright kill performance.
Try using a 4GB 'scene' release with stereo audio if you haven't on MX Video to see if helps.

Look what i found, it may work.
Link.

I am using BSPlayer lite. This works the best for my MKV's with no audio loss. It loses some frames but plays more than MX Video or MoboPlayer.
You will need to get the ARM7 add on for it.
Try this out. I am able to stream my over 4gb MKV's from my server to my A100.

The tegra 2's only downfall... its horrible at decoding high profile HD video such as H264 video. Should be able yo run 720p just fine though depending on the type of video. I'd say try clearing up some memory.
I honestly don't see the point of playing 1080p video on a 7" tablet, seems like overkill. I can understand that its convenient to have 1 file that'll run on all your devices, but unfortunately that can't always be the case.
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[Video] HTC Media Link tested with HTC One X

Here is my video about my experience with HTC Media Link
Enjoy
Don't forget to subscirbe my YouTube Channel, click here, I am uploading other videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PMZU8OXmtA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f36IAKaZg

That looks very smooth, I want to use it along with PS3 controller to play ShodowGun.
From the video, it looks like the Media Link can only handle mirroring but not streaming. Consider this cost almost the same as the Apple TV which does have both mirroring and streaming capability, I don't think I'll buy it at the current retail price.
P.S. Mirroring means both screen shows the same content. Streaming means you can play video from your device to the TV while do something else on your phone like web browsing.

Bigmille said:
That looks very smooth, I want to use it along with PS3 controller to play ShodowGun.
From the video, it looks like the Media Link can only handle mirroring but not streaming. Consider this cost almost the same as the Apple TV which does have both mirroring and streaming capability, I don't think I'll buy it at the current retail price.
P.S. Mirroring means both screen shows the same content. Streaming means you can play video from your device to the TV while do something else on your phone like web browsing.
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You can stream, watch other youtube videos of it, people demonstrate streaming a trailer onto the TV whlist checking e-mails/ messages and doing other things.

azazin said:
You can stream, watch other youtube videos of it, people demonstrate streaming a trailer onto the TV whlist checking e-mails/ messages and doing other things.
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Cool, I'll check it out YouTube, do you know if it can work with other Android devices like the Galaxy Tab?

Bigmille said:
Cool, I'll check it out YouTube, do you know if it can work with other Android devices like the Galaxy Tab?
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I don't think so, unless a developer from XDA implements it because it uses HTCs Sense 4.0 software

im hoping that someone comes out with emulators that stream to tv , so the phone just shows controls

azazin said:
You can stream, watch other youtube videos of it, people demonstrate streaming a trailer onto the TV whlist checking e-mails/ messages and doing other things.
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I agree, I remember seeing a video where the guy was streaming movie
Of his one X while browsing through the sense menu.
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@Bigmille
Yeah you can use streaming. You can also launch a film on the One and send it to the TV and continue to use your phone to call someone, send sms, go to network... EVERYTHING
I will add a new video tomorrow or after tomorrow about Media Link with video player
Some HTC Staff person have played to ShadowGun and they said me it's amazing! It's looks like a PS3!!!
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I have asked to know if I can use it with my DHD and they are not sure because of compatibility with Sense ;(

Was thinking about getting one of these but this video confirms what i thought the experience would be like, i think for the most part it's going to be useless, the guy in the video spent 90% of it looking at the screen on the phone to see where he is poking the touch screen

streaming works, i seen it work at a demo. Here

@shan The guy, it's me
It's true for games it's not a miracle but when you are lot of people to see a movie or other things (documents, pictures...) it could be so greatful
PS: I have added a new video :

shangostar said:
Was thinking about getting one of these but this video confirms what i thought the experience would be like, i think for the most part it's going to be useless, the guy in the video spent 90% of it looking at the screen on the phone to see where he is poking the touch screen
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thst's why you need a controller via bluetooth

Hey, ive got one question. This HTC Media thing, ist it connected via Ad Hoc Wifi or is it (or MUST it) be built in into your home wifi?
Why this question?
Because my Wifi Signal is very weak at home and therefore the Signals are weak as well. But with an Ad Hoc Connection only between the HTC Phone and the HTC Media thing (that connects to the TV..) you can get a good connection. BUT when your connect to the ad hoc WiFi (to your HTC Media Thing) are you able to surf via Wlan? Or do you have to use 3G?
/Dev

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583218

24inchsub said:
streaming works, i seen it work at a demo. Here
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Thank you for posting that video

Just to inform everyone so you don't make the same mistake that I did. The HTC Media LINK and the HTC Media Link HD are very different. The mirroring will NOT work on the HTC Media Link....is works ONLY on the HTC Media Link HD.
It's very ambiguous in all posting and documentation but again I am speaking from experience. The standard HTC Media Link will not mirror the One X. it can only act as a DNLA device.

nv00021 said:
Just to inform everyone so you don't make the same mistake that I did. The HTC Media LINK and the HTC Media Link HD are very different. The mirroring will NOT work on the HTC Media Link....is works ONLY on the HTC Media Link HD.
It's very ambiguous in all posting and documentation but again I am speaking from experience. The standard HTC Media Link will not mirror the One X. it can only act as a DNLA device.
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Thats for the information. Here in germany the HTC Media Link HD is not awaylable so i thought bo buy the HTC Media Link. you saved me some good money!
Does someone know how lagg would be when playing HQ games like gta3 oder shadowgun? i really would like to take my HOX as a gamingstation with ps3-controller connected.

No 1080p Video Playback?

Do any of you guys use your Nexus 7 2013 for 1080p videos? It seems that my device isn't able to play 1-2 hr 1080p resolution videos at all through VLC. VLC has no problem playing 720p videos. For 1080p, I get audio but the video doesn't play at all. If I decrease play speed to something less than normal speed, the nexus is able to keep up and play it at a reduced speed, so I'm unsure if it's a VLC issue or if the nexus is just not capable of doing 1080p.
Let me know what your experiences are with 1080p video playback!

I can't recall ever having issues but I'm also not 100% certain I've ever played a 1080p video. I'll toss one on and test it in a little bit. Is it only VLC that's having the issue? And what format is the video you're trying to play? I assume you've tested multiple video files and also played them on another device to make sure it's not the files that are bad?

Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.

The 1080p videos I tried to play are mp4 files. I don't know enough about videos to find out encoding these files are in (if that even matterS), but they're pretty large at 1.8GB and 1.6GB. I will try another 1080p video I downloaded a while ago.
Out of curiosity, what version of VLC are you running? Mine is VLC v0.9.10 Revision 630a95b (2014-10-16)

_MetalHead_ said:
Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
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I just tested a different 1080p movie and it worked fine. I guess there's something wrong with some of these video files I have. Thanks for your help!

Yeah I figured that's all it was. Not sure what version VLC I'm on, but its the latest. Just reinstalled it the other day.

Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)

ShannonAUT said:
Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
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VLC is MUCH better than MX Player. It's pretty much the de-facto king of video players, on any platform. Besides, he already solved his problem, it was a bad file.

That might be true on other platforms but on Android I had it constantly crashing or not playing some files whereas mx-player played everything.
Just saying you could give it a try. I've been using vlc since way back on pc and I am still using it, just not on Android. (but granted I haven't tried the last release)