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What's your overall impression of the P6?

Hi All,
Was thinking of buying a Huawei P6 for a self xmas present. I wanted to know how you guys like your phones and what is your overall impressions?
Any major issues you're encountering after using it for a while?
Thanks!

ChiGGz said:
Hi All,
Was thinking of buying a Huawei P6 for a self xmas present. I wanted to know how you guys like your phones and what is your overall impressions?
Any major issues you're encountering after using it for a while?
Thanks!
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Its good phone and gets better and better every day. About the development i mean. If you have small budjet, buy this. You wont get better phone on this price. If you have more money, spend them to some other phone

Agrees with Blunt. And personally, I am quite happy and without any regrets, fits for my needs and cant think of anything to replace it (except for incorporating some features of moto x and lg g2 ). Plus i don't think i would be happy with a phone that looks and feels worse than P6 when i buy the next phone. It Increased my benchmark of what next phone should be.
But then much of it also depends on what you use your phone for and how compatible with your needs.

warea said:
But then much of it also depends on what you use your phone for and how compatible with your needs.
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That's a good point. I carry two phones with me--personal and work. I could look for a dual SIM but I don't mind carrying two if they're both Slim. I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 which I love to death, but I'm realizing the phone needs a slightly bigger screen, faster and a little less heating up. Form factor is high on the list for me and the S2 has been great in this department. My work phone is an Galaxy S1 and the two of these phones together has been great.
In terms of usage:
One day battery life on moderate usage is ok for me. I have push email on for 3 email accounts and use BBM/whatsapp/trillian.
I really think the P6 is a legitimate upgrade that stays within my requirements. Curious if you guys think the same

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That's a good point. I carry two phones with me--personal and work. I could look for a dual SIM but I don't mind carrying two if they're both Slim. I'm coming from a Galaxy S2 which I love to death, but I'm realizing the phone needs a slightly bigger screen, faster and a little less heating up. Form factor is high on the list for me and the S2 has been great in this department. My work phone is an Galaxy S1 and the two of these phones together has been great.
In terms of usage:
One day battery life on moderate usage is ok for me. I have push email on for 3 email accounts and use BBM/whatsapp/trillian.
I really think the P6 is a legitimate upgrade that stays within my requirements. Curious if you guys think the same
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There are users who moved from S3 to P6 and quite happy. So definitely S1 and S2 users would be happy.
P6 battery would be more than sufficient for such usage you mentioned. Only really heavy browsers and gamers should be concerned about battery on P6.
Other than that, it seems the only contender to P6 in the price range is Nexus 5 (unless the Nexus 5 is too high in your market) although I personally am not impressed with it. .
But then you should certainly wait a couple weeks more. There is the upgraded version of P6 named P6S releasing on December 18. The P6S is expected to be same price of P6 in which case, the price of P6 would cut down. Furthermore watch out for winter offers in your area. The P6S btw would be having a better CPU that is more battery efficient, which is always a plus. And it would also have LTE.

Is it still worth getting?

i read some reviews that say this phone becomes useless in months im wondering from experince how is the phone working for those who have had it for a long time

liljay18 said:
i read some reviews that say this phone becomes useless in months im wondering from experince how is the phone working for those who have had it for a long time
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I had I for more than a year for more than a year of very intensive use (loading up to 270 app version s). I would definitely buy again.
I just had problems after it dropped violently on the ground but I insist build quality is good.
After full reinstall I changed it to ww from cn and with little bugs (camera lost) it works really well.

Where did you read that (links please) and what was the reasoning behind it? As of now, I can't think of any reason why this (or any other) phone would become useless in the coming months. Even if it was an Android 4.4 based phone. I'm not talking about getting updates, but phones don't just stop working (unless they break down).

In my opinion, not anymore. I'm actually a ZE551 user for 3 months now and am satisfied by it, but the specs in this phone is not a viable option anymore. The intel processor can even hold you back sometimes despite its "native support" for ARM apps. (take a look at the Pokemon GO craze earlier)
And if you are 3D gaming it can also be a setback due to the GPU included in this phone. The PowerVR GPU is a 2012 technology, and this means that with the future games this may not even suffice later on. Even some games recently released cant even play smoothly on this phone now (Titan Quest was said to be slow on this phone, though I havent seen it myself)
But the 4G support aint bad at all, and the 3-way call feature may attract you (something I never used). Most of the other things from various reviews still ring true (bloatware, zenui, camera, etc) but the thing is, on the same price point you may find a better option than the Zenfone 2 in this day and age.

If you can get it at a low price (around 150 usd) it is still worth buying.
If you need it just for the basic stuff (phone, messaging, browsing, navigation, music, videos etc.) it still is a great phone and with it's chipset and 4gb of ram it will sure run flawlessly for at least a year or two.
In my opinion, this phone is great as a business phone / second phone. It just works and nothing more. I got bored with it

If you could get it with a slightly lower price, it's still worth buying. Quality is great overall.
Btw, ZE551ML 2.3GHz4GB/32GB price here is dropped to as low as 2,800,000 IDR (approx. 212.8 USD) at local store here.
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going for a 4 gb ram model, u have to pay a bomb to get those high end phones which have charger lock and other things ... i dont regret buying this masterpiece, im coming from a background of Sony and Samsung phones to top it all .... i still feel this is the best of the phones i have considering the battery and the ram and also i am using a 128gb sdxc card which is going on for a year almost... NO REGRETS ..STILL THE BEST FOR ME

I have this phone since August 2016 and it never disappointed me. The processor is pretty good, you can run almost anything without any problems, the 4GB still is and will always be useful, the storage is big (i have the 32GB version, which is a lot for me and i never filled it). Sure, it hasn't been updated to 6.0 but I bought it with the thought that it might never get upgraded anyway..and even so 5.0 is still good and never had problems on it so far. I still recommend it even 1 year after I made the purchase. The price of the phone also went down (it's like 30% cheaper compared to when I bought it).

Definitely worth buying if you can find it around $150. The problem is that there are some excellent phones with bigger batteries and faster processors like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro for just under $200 that blow this one away. Having said that I still have mine (15 months now) and it's on Marshmallow Beta. I have no plans on replacing it in the foreseeable future though my primary phone is now the Xiaomi.

Looking to buy Moto Z Play. PLease help out with some queries.

Hi everyone,
I am looking to buy a new phone here in India and I am looking for a phone which will last me atleast 18-20 months from say January, 2017. I loved the battery stats of Moto Z PLay and since I dont game much on the phone apart from normal games and a Dead Trigger here and there, my priority is will the Snapdragon 625 processor be able to handle the upcoming apps and will its battery stay the same (approx) after 2 years or so.
I am a moderate user with social media, whats app and a bit of high net usage on wi-fi. Should I go for this or spend sme bucks more and buy OP3 or OP3T?
Thanks in advance!!!
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I was having the same debate - moto z play vs OP3T. I don't game at all, so the battery life + expandable storage trumps the top end performance and slightly better camera for me. Don't have it yet, but ordered a Z play yesterday. I'm seeing some pretty impressive battery numbers reported on the OP3T as well, so it's no slouch - solid for one day of heavy use
Dev support seems to be at about the same level on both devices at the moment, though if I had to guess, the OP3T will probably win out there in the end - only because in my experience most devs tend to purchase devices with higher end specs.

I've never been a big gamer but in normal everyday use the Z play is faster and smoother than my past few nexus phones. After using the phone for a few weeks the last thing I'm worried about is performance. Dropping it before I get a case is my biggest concern. Get a case or a bumper for this one

I would say go for the Z Play. I have had mine for over a month and it has truly impressed me. I have thought about exchanging for the regular Z but it's insane battery is not worth the extra performance I won't notice. The thing that impressed me most was even though I use it for intense games I have never noticed it struggle. It's mainly because the Z is such a well optimized phone. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.
Best regards

RealiZms said:
I've never been a big gamer but in normal everyday use the Z play is faster and smoother than my past few nexus phones. After using the phone for a few weeks the last thing I'm worried about is performance. Dropping it before I get a case is my biggest concern. Get a case or a bumper for this one
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first things I do after buying new phone is case and screen protector. My current Xperia Z2 fell screen down, flat from a height of 4 and half feet and my heart stopped. Picked it up, nothing happened thanks to glass screen protector.
Anyways, the dual sim and sd card option is very attractive and though I wont even fill up the 64GB in OP3T, the spare parts avaialbility and after sale support of OP is dreadful. Till now, the lord of smartphones has been kind enough to keep me away from repair centers, but if it happens on OP, i will keep the phone (if I buy it) as a memento of the stupid decision to buy the damn phone.!!

@RealiZms... thanks a lot for the reply and help..

Bimmerpro said:
I would say go for the Z Play. I have had mine for over a month and it has truly impressed me. I have thought about exchanging for the regular Z but it's insane battery is not worth the extra performance I won't notice. The thing that impressed me most was even though I use it for intense games I have never noticed it struggle. It's mainly because the Z is such a well optimized phone. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.
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If it gives me even 3/4th the battery life and performance after 20 months times (talking abt the Z Play), I will be very happy. I was looking to buy the Moto G4 Plus, but the heating and ghost touch issues put me off. Will be going to check the handset out in a couple of days and will order it during the Christmas/New Year sale on Amazon or Flipkart (Local Indian e-commerce site).
The only thing keeping me from splurging on OP3/3T is the horror stories of after sales service. The lack of spare parts and other things have kept me away from buying even the OP2. Hope my choice of Z Play doesnt dissapoint me.
thanks for your reply and help, mate. :good: :good:

Good day bros.
I was asking the exact same question for the past week. Got rid of my Mi 5 due to its inability to make the NFC transit card work. Non-gamer mostly social media, surfing on my phone use. Was tempted by the great 'bang for the buck' offered by 3T, but I got the Z play in the end because, among other things, the one and only oneplus service centre in my country has closed down.
Not regretting it. No need to root, etc, everything NFC transport sim, fingerprint login with bank apps, Android Pay, it all just works. No hardcore gaming but regular apps work. No annoying china brand UI to deal with.
Oh and the battery life. Insane. I didn't even bring my USB-C wire to the office

Tried the Moto G Plus and returned it due to inadequate performance and ghost touch. Tried the Pixel XL but returned it because overpriced and not perfect. Tried the Moto Z Play and love it. Surprisingly haven't noticed any performance issues aside from the mediocre camera. The UI is very snappy. However the battery will change your life.

I got indian version of z play and let me tell ya, i play in it like a desktop (hardcore) and it gives me 8-9 hour battery. I download 80+GB from wifi each month. Its been 2 month i guess. I think Moto Z Play is the best smartphone within 30000₹ including future considerations.

I'm coming from an LG G3. Loved that phone, but tonight, it just died right in the middle of my using it. It's two years old and JUST went off contract. Took the latest update a few weeks ago and then my SD Card slot started acting flaky. So, I'm thinking this is all part of hardware failure and maybe the SD slot not working was the first sign.
Gaming wise, the G3 was awesome. I play games like Walking Dead No Man's Land, Game of War, Clash of Clans, and I do have games purchases like the GTA games. Does anyone have any idea how well this phone would work with those games? I can get this from VZW for $17/month which is cheaper than what my G3 was on the old contract ($40/month). Of course, after this month, my bill WOULD have dropped $20/month when the phone went off contract. Makes me wonder if VZW did this? lol
In any case, I've read reviews and even though the camera is 16mp as opposed to the 13mp I had on the G3, it sounds like the camera is the typical old Moto camera that ISN'T the best. But, I'm not a proffesional photographer. if it's good for just taking normal family pictures, etc, that's all I care.
Battery life is the big thing. I could get the G3 to last over a day with normal talk and text. But I also game, so I suck the life out the battery pretty quickly.
Any help you can provide if this would be a good replacement will be much appreciated. I've been with XDA for over 5 years ever since I got my first Android phone.
Thanks and I might be joining the family here if I do get this phone.
UPDATE: Starting today, VZW is having the Moto Z, Samsung Galaxy S7 and Google Pixel for $10/month with NO trade-in. So it looks like I'll be getting one of those. Just found out today while looking on their website.

catpunt said:
Tried the Moto G Plus and returned it due to inadequate performance and ghost touch. Tried the Pixel XL but returned it because overpriced and not perfect. Tried the Moto Z Play and love it. Surprisingly haven't noticed any performance issues aside from the mediocre camera. The UI is very snappy. However the battery will change your life.
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I actually dont use the camera much apart from clicking pics at family functions or outings. I dnt think I have even taken a selfie. the camera on Xperia Z2 was great, not only in terms of specs (21 mp and all), but the pics came out great. but if Moto Z Play's camera does what I have read, its adequate for me. If needed will buy a second hand DSLR.

abhilash_s_j said:
I got indian version of z play and let me tell ya, i play in it like a desktop (hardcore) and it gives me 8-9 hour battery. I download 80+GB from wifi each month. Its been 2 month i guess. I think Moto Z Play is the best smartphone within 30000₹ including future considerations.
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if it performs the way you said, I might have made a good decision in ordering Moto Z PLay from Flipkart. Only mistake I made was ordering the white one, when I wanted a black one. Well, same thing!!

Hi everyone who helped me in making this decision. I have ordered a Moto Z PLay (white....by mistake ) from Flipkart (indian e-commerce site).
I exchanged it for my old Xperia Z2 and got it for 15k INR or around 230 USD along with all discounts with credit cards and everything. will be delivered on boxing day and thankfully will be able to update on it in next few weeks.
Ciao!!

instigate666 said:
Hi everyone who helped me in making this decision. I have ordered a Moto Z PLay (white....by mistake ) from Flipkart (indian e-commerce site).
I exchanged it for my old Xperia Z2 and got it for 15k INR or around 230 USD along with all discounts with credit cards and everything. will be delivered on boxing day and thankfully will be able to update on it in next few weeks.
Ciao!!
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Apparently Flipkart is selling bad phones

abhilash_s_j said:
Apparently Flipkart is selling bad phones
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Bad phones, can you elaborate please?
If you are talking about OnePlus 3 fiasco, its their own doing, trying to get noticed by any means necessary.

instigate666 said:
Bad phones, can you elaborate please?
If you are talking about OnePlus 3 fiasco, its their own doing, trying to get noticed by any means necessary.
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Few Moto z play brought from it are missing its nano coating, had scratches, defective parts etc etc. That's why I brought from Amazon. Even review on z play in Flipkart is bad.

i am shocked many people say it doesn't support wireless display/mirroring/miracast . Is it true ?! And is it a good buy after htc one m8 gold (with the jbl mod) in performance/multitasking ?!

shantusingh said:
i am shocked many people say it doesn't support wireless display/mirroring/miracast . Is it true ?! And is it a good buy after htc one m8 gold (with the jbl mod) in performance/multitasking ?!
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I got an LG 65" smart TV, a 55" Samsung smart TV and 52" Vizio Smart TV, MirrorLink to smart TV is not working with any of them. However you can use an application named AllCast from play store (it's a paid application, the free one gives you only 5 minutes of transmission time for free), with that application you will be able to mirror videos, pictures, power points, etc to the smart TV. You can't mirror the entire content from your phone to the smart TV, but that is good enough for me.
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abhilash_s_j said:
Few Moto z play brought from it are missing its nano coating, had scratches, defective parts etc etc. That's why I brought from Amazon. Even review on z play in Flipkart is bad.
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Okay...
But the phone has 4.0/5 on Amazon and 4.4/5 on Flipkart. But I got a great deal on it on so bought it. Anyways I have had good experiences with both e-commerce sites.

Mate 20x or Mate 20

After searching and reading, it comes down to either the 20x or the regular 20. I also thought about the View 20 but that is off the shelf now. I read and watched everything on youtube about them both so i know what to expect mostly. But i do have some important questions.. Ill start by saying currently own the Mate 9. Since the mate 9, for some reason, i am always drawn to Huawei mate phones
First thing I would like to know about the 20x is how is the speakerphone loudness when talking to someone else. Is it strong enough? Can you hear the other person clearly and loudly? I know that listening to music and speaking on the speakerphone not necessarily have the same quality and volume.
Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?
Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money.
Only thing that deters me from the 20X is the price. It will cost me about $970 doesnt matter if i buy it online or in my country (import tax, etc bring it to that price even if i buy online for $750) . I have NEVER thought i would spend that much on a damn phone, and even thinking about it now sounds ridiculous. In my whole life time, the most I spent on a phone was $650, but that phone is the only one which really gives me the strong itch to spend on it, and IF i do, there is just NO WAY i am going to upgrade again in 2-3 years. So this HAS to be something that will keep on running smoothly stay relevant for at least 3 years, just like the Mate 9 i have now.
I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price.
The other option is the Mate 20 (pro is a no go) which sounds good too (4GB/128) , but obviously not as good as the 20x and will cost me $660.. thats a $300 price difference. So I really need your UNBIASED advice.
I am also worried about updates.. until these days i have never received Oreo on my Mate 9

For me the choice is obvious. The Mate 20 X has a bigger screen, AMOLED display, larger battery, better camera.
Side note, Android 9 is due to be released for the Mate 9 (C432) in the upcoming weeks. You might want to check Firmware Finder if you're still stuck on Nougat.
I've upgraded from a Mate 9 to the 20 X only for the larger screen. I was quite happy with it otherwise.

mazinya said:
After searching and reading, it comes down to either the 20x or the regular 20. I also thought about the View 20 but that is off the shelf now. I read and watched everything on youtube about them both so i know what to expect mostly. But i do have some important questions.. Ill start by saying currently own the Mate 9. Since the mate 9, for some reason, i am always drawn to Huawei mate phones
First thing I would like to know about the 20x is how is the speakerphone loudness when talking to someone else. Is it strong enough? Can you hear the other person clearly and loudly? I know that listening to music and speaking on the speakerphone not necessarily have the same quality and volume.
Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?
Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money.
Only thing that deters me from the 20X is the price. It will cost me about $970 doesnt matter if i buy it online or in my country (import tax, etc bring it to that price even if i buy online for $750) . I have NEVER thought i would spend that much on a damn phone, and even thinking about it now sounds ridiculous. In my whole life time, the most I spent on a phone was $650, but that phone is the only one which really gives me the strong itch to spend on it, and IF i do, there is just NO WAY i am going to upgrade again in 2-3 years. So this HAS to be something that will keep on running smoothly stay relevant for at least 3 years, just like the Mate 9 i have now.
I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price.
The other option is the Mate 20 (pro is a no go) which sounds good too (4GB/128) , but obviously not as good as the 20x and will cost me $660.. thats a $300 price difference. So I really need your UNBIASED advice.
I am also worried about updates.. until these days i have never received Oreo on my Mate 9
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That $300 you'd be saving over the course of two years is only $12 a month. If you had a Mate 20 X and a Mate 20 in front of you and you only owned the Mate 20 you'd probably kick yourself for not spending the extra few hundred and getting the Mate 20 X. If you plan on keeping the phone for a while then don't go cheap and just spend the extra money. Everything is loud on the 20 X. You won't be disappointed. I said the same thing, that I'd never spend this much money on a phone again until I heard about the 20 X. I'm glad I spent the money because the phone is awesome.

Governa said:
For me the choice is obvious. The Mate 20 X has a bigger screen, AMOLED display, larger battery, better camera.
Side note, Android 9 is due to be released for the Mate 9 (C432) in the upcoming weeks. You might want to check Firmware Finder if you're still stuck on Nougat.
I've upgraded from a Mate 9 to the 20 X only for the larger screen. I was quite happy with it otherwise.
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Firmware Finder wont help. i tried everything. my phone wont get updates.
Big screen is also what i want.. although 6.5" with flat screen isnt that small either. Just hard to decide if phone is worth almost $1k

I have 2 units MATE 20 X, just like the guys above me said, the most i have ever spent on a phone was 475 EUR back in time when Nokia 93i was Released. Since then i have owned Galaxy Note 3 Clone, LeTV Le Max X900 ( which i buiild it myself with all the parts ) and Xiaomi Mi Mix. When Mate 20 X was released, i knew it since the first second this phone is for me... all i wanted was a bigger screen , as you may notice my Screen Experience has increased with every phone i have owned : Nokia N93i, Note 3 Clone, LeTv LeMax, Xiaomi Mi Mix 6.4inch.
Mate 20 X has almost everything you could possibly want from a Smartphone and still is cheaper than it's competitors : Big AMOLED Screen, Dual Stereo Speakers, Leica Triple Camera, 5000MAh battery. These are the reason i choose Mate 20 X. I' a little bit of a maniac, so i bought another one as a backup unit...
Get the Mate 20X, it is worth spending the money on this amazing smartphone.

Since the price drop I think the mate 20 PRO is actually cheaper then the mate 20x. It dropped by $450!
5G version of mate 20 x has been announced, but I'm hoping price and release date pops up soon. There are not many details yet. Then maybe the 20x will drop in price.
I really want the mate 20x but I don't know if I want to wait a bit to see if the price will drop or wait for the 5G version so that it is more future proof. I'm the same when I buy this phone it will quite a while before I get something else.

ThaDraGun said:
Since the price drop I think the mate 20 PRO is actually cheaper then the mate 20x. It dropped by $450!
5G version of mate 20 x has been announced, but I'm hoping price and release date pops up soon. There are not many details yet. Then maybe the 20x will drop in price.
I really want the mate 20x but I don't know if I want to wait a bit to see if the price will drop or wait for the 5G version so that it is more future proof. I'm the same when I buy this phone it will quite a while before I get something else.
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The price of Mate X is 2299$ and it will be released mid year... Price will not drop so fast ... The market for that phone is a totally different one... What it scares me about Mate X is 5G and only 4500MAh Battery with all that screen on it... Thanks, but i'll stick with Mate 20 X

filip_pine said:
The price of Mate X is 2299$ and it will be released mid year... Price will not drop so fast ... The market for that phone is a totally different one... What it scares me about Mate X is 5G and only 4500MAh Battery with all that screen on it... Thanks, but i'll stick with Mate 20 X
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No you missread
There is a 5G version of the Mate 20X being released.
I'm not talking about the folding mate x phone.

Would you recommend getting it from ebay? never MSRP is selling it, but im worried buying an almost 1k phone from ebay. The other option i have is Clove UK, but they are $95 more expensive than MSRP but i assume more reliable

Mate 20 Pro price has been reduced so it's on par with the 20 X. If I didn't want a large screen size I'd go with the 20 Pro. No reason to consider the 20

baskinrobbin said:
Mate 20 Pro price has been reduced so it's on par with the 20 X. If I didn't want a large screen size I'd go with the 20 Pro. No reason to consider the 20
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20 pro is a no go for me. Dont like the wide notch and dont like the long and narrow screen.

mazinya said:
20 pro is a no go for me. Dont like the wide notch and dont like the long and narrow screen.
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Pro is ugly too but that's my opinion of course. It's a no go for me and it also misses the 3.5mm audio jack.

I have never even considered the pro. it was never an option.

Same for me. Have you made your decision wether to go for the Mate 20 or 20X?
It sucks Huawei doesn't deliver it globally :/

Go for 20x. Its pricing is very competitive even now. There is no sense of Waiting. I mean, how much it has to drop so this woul be enough for you?

mazinya said:
Would you recommend getting it from ebay? never MSRP is selling it, but im worried buying an almost 1k phone from ebay. The other option i have is Clove UK, but they are $95 more expensive than MSRP but i assume more reliable
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I buy my phones from them including pre ordering the 20 X. (never-msrp) They are a very reliable seller and I've never had an issue.

ajsmsg78 said:
I buy my phones from them including pre ordering the 20 X. (never-msrp) They are a very reliable seller and I've never had an issue.
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I understood that he is importing it from Singapore (not sure about that), and Clove is selling UK stock.. could this have effect on updates? I certainly wouldnt want that what happened with my Mate 9 would happen again with a $1000 phone

"Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?"
It's not a hassle at all to carry. It fits in pockets, etc. It is rather tall, but if you're interested in this phone at all, you know all about the size of it. It's a heavy phone. I don't mind the weight, though. I like a phone with a bit of heft. I have larger than average hands, but I still can't completely use it one-handed. I have no problem texting and other day to day uses using one hand, but I find that it's just easier to do certain things on it using two hands or one hand plus the pen accessory. If your hands aren't larger than most, you'll be using two hands more than you're used to using. It's no big deal though, and you get used to it quickly.
"Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money."
I bought the phone the day it was available internationally, so I paid close to a thousand dollars, and I still think the cost was justifiable. It has a killer screen, killer camera, pen input, an extremely reliable, rear-mounted fingerprint sensor, loud speakers, and lightning fast processor. Huawei has been updating this phone monthly so far. I've always been worried about Huawei's lack of support soon after a phone is released. They've been on top of this phone, however. I'm really satisfied with their support so far. I would imagine, however, that if you keep this phone for 3 or more years, your update and support expectations shouldn't be too high. I'm just guessing here, but I think the really good support Huawei is giving to the new Mate line of phones will slack off by October or so, once the new line comes out. In three years, I would imagine very little support.
"I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price."
I don't do much gaming either. Whatever else you do on this phone will be made better by the screen. It's that good, and it's really big. YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, web browsing....all that is excellent on this phone. Just remember, it's a heavy phone. So, long video or browsing sessions might take some effort if you're holding the phone the entire time.
If you can afford the X, I say go for it. Get the international version and get it working right out of the box. You won't be disappointed.

Gonna buy the phone today. I decided to get it from Clove UK since they give 2 years warranty unlike eBay. I hope i wont need it, but if i put down 1K on a phone, i would like to have some warranty. I heard that UK are about the last to get updates though

I've the 20X. Was going to get the pro but, don't like curved screens, don't want in screen scanner, don't use wireless charging... Don't like the dimensions. Mate 20 X is an epic phone however!
I had the Mate 9, first saw it on holiday whilst I'm Thailand then imported one and charged the region loved loved loved it. Then bricked it and binned it. Very sad day...
Had S9+ then Note 9 (got sent back) then Honor View 10 that ended up in the toilet... So I researched and was instantly drawn to the X.
Got it, thought I'd made a mistake on day one, was too big I thought... Day two, hell, I wouldn't consider anything else.
Speakers are fantastic, dolby atmos stereo, battery life stellar, sometimes I get 9 hours SOT, play PUBG, hdr video, goes on and on. Love this phone as much as I loved my mate 9.
You'll love it too. Guaranteed! Let us know how you get on!

Question Experience Performance of the vivo x80 pro and heating issues

I've been wanting to get this phone as my daily driver. I've been wanting something with stellar performance and a top notch camera.
If I do end up getting it, I want to use it for four years.
I'm coming from a oneplus 6, which has handled its fair share of hardcore usage. From heavy multi tasking, to having its hot-spot stay on for 12 hours a day, to heavy gaming, and a phone loaded with data, Its seen it all.
I wanted to know whether the vivo users here think that the x80 pro will be able to take such hardcore usage day in and out for at least 4-5 years?
I am just a little worried before I spend all this money on a brand which I know very little about. Especially because most of the information online seems to be "sponsored" by vivo. I mean the phone does look really promising on paper. But would it be able to take this beating in real life?
I also heard that the vivo x80 pro heats up doing regular things such as watching YouTube videos etc. and that I'd be better off waiting for the vivo x80 pro plus. Would that be a good idea? I was really looking forward to the vivo. So any input would be appreciated.

Hi,
I've the vivo x80 pro (origin is, 512 gb, dim9000) since two weeks, coming from OnePlus 5 which was my hardcore daily driver. After solving some issues with notifications and drawer style I'm very happy with it. Camera, display, charging, customize options, speed is really perfect compared to OnePlus.
Having a videocall over 45 min with turned on selfiecamera the phone gets warm - we had 35 degrees of Celsius yesterday in Germany ... Haven't played any game so far, so no experience with that. I'm getting also used to the missing notification badges on my home display and to its size/weight.
Battery performance improves day by day - after one day normal usage (weekend day: Reddit, YouTube, Spotify, WhatsApp, browsing, taking pictures) more than 50% capacity is left, therefore it would last about 2 days without recharging in my case.
Summary: I'm very happy with the purchase hoping that the x80 pro will last 5 years at least.

ZarW said:
Hi,
I've the vivo x80 pro (origin is, 512 gb, dim9000) since two weeks, coming from OnePlus 5 which was my hardcore daily driver. After solving some issues with notifications and drawer style I'm very happy with it. Camera, display, charging, customize options, speed is really perfect compared to OnePlus.
Having a videocall over 45 min with turned on selfiecamera the phone gets warm - we had 35 degrees of Celsius yesterday in Germany ... Haven't played any game so far, so no experience with that. I'm getting also used to the missing notification badges on my home display and to its size/weight.
Battery performance improves day by day - after one day normal usage (weekend day: Reddit, YouTube, Spotify, WhatsApp, browsing, taking pictures) more than 50% capacity is left, therefore it would last about 2 days without recharging in my case.
Summary: I'm very happy with the purchase hoping that the x80 pro will last 5 years at least.
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Hey, thank you so much for your reply. However, I am in India so I would probably be getting the snapdragon version. The dimensity version is either too expensive or too difficult to get where I live.
I wanted to know the above about the snapdragon version.

Hi
I've the vivo x80 pro (origin is, 512 gb, dim9000) since last week. I have ordered the Snapdragon version but i get the Dim 9000.
My daily driver was a redmi Note 10. The Vivo had some issues which i sorted out last weekend.
It was very warm here in Germany, 38 degrees, and I was busy the whole weekend with my new phone.
A lot has been tried, installed, adjusted and tested, of course the phone has also been charged several times.
This phone hasn't gotten warmer than the Redmi Note 10.
But with the quick charge it gets warm.
I ´am very happy this this phone and the performance an camera is a big step up from the old phone

Shawarma_thoum said:
Hey, thank you so much for your reply. However, I am in India so I would probably be getting the snapdragon version. The dimensity version is either too expensive or too difficult to get where I live.
I wanted to know the above about the snapdragon version.
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Depending on scenario there is not that big difference between snap and dim9000 - in my opinion, you will not notice a 2-3% difference in performance, battery life or heat. 2% based on 40 degrees of celsius is 0.8 degrees difference -> your hand will be not able to tell you if the phone is 40.0 or 40.8 degrees hot. Therefore, the difference between snap and dim9000 is really negligible when benchmarking normal day usage.
/edit: I've been watching youtube videos yesterday more than 1.5 hours, the phone was not getting too hot although we had crazy high temperatures in Southern Germany.

Wow, thank you so much for your comprehensive reply.
I will definitely take this into consideration.
However, I would also want input from a snapdragon user just for the peace of mind before I put all this money into purchasing this phone.

Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...

Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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may I ask, Funtouch (global) or Origin OS (CN) version ?
thinking of selling my S22U for X80 Pro global, but would certainly like to hear some user feedback first because global version is very expensive in EU

Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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is there any site where we can track optional updates? i have opted in for optional updates but havent got any so far.
whats your current sw version?

Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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Wow, Thank you for your reply.
I am so glad to hear all these positive things about the phone.
However, I can't help but mention a review i was watching online where they used the camera on this phone for a while. Perhaps around 20+ minutes outdoors and it got super hot to the point where it was unable to perform.
Just wanted to see whether you've experienced anything like this using the camera?

tobias14 said:
may I ask, Funtouch (global) or Origin OS (CN) version ?
thinking of selling my S22U for X80 Pro global, but would certainly like to hear some user feedback first because global version is very expensive in EU
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Funtouch OS 12 and you can try FunTouch os13 if you want.
So far it's very smooth outside the stock gallery app which lags a bit, but that can be easily replaced.

Shawarma_thoum said:
Wow, Thank you for your reply.
I am so glad to hear all these positive things about the phone.
However, I can't help but mention a review i was watching online where they used the camera on this phone for a while. Perhaps around 20+ minutes outdoors and it got super hot to the point where it was unable to perform.
Just wanted to see whether you've experienced anything like this using the camera?
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I'll try it this week and report back but it's understandable.
That happened to me with mine Mate 9 and Galaxy devices, you should minimize the sun reflection on the phone as it heats it up massively, don't forget that black colour sucks heat more than any others.

bala_gamer said:
is there any site where we can track optional updates? i have opted in for optional updates but havent got any so far.
whats your current sw version?
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Not that i know but i'll seach for it.
SW version 12.0.12.5.W30.v000l1

Derpling said:
Funtouch OS 12 and you can try FunTouch os13 if you want.
So far it's very smooth outside the stock gallery app which lags a bit, but that can be easily replaced.
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thanks, much appreciated
I'm still on the fence whether to hit "buy now" on amazon or not

tobias14 said:
thanks, much appreciated
I'm still on the fence whether to hit "buy now" on amazon or not
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Well Vivo should release X80Pro Plus in July if rumors are to be believed.
You can always wait but it's kinda endless, for now i ordered the Vivo x80 pro to replace the legendary Mate 40 pro.
If they'll be a much better phone down the road, then i'll sell it.

Derpling said:
I'll try it this week and report back but it's understandable.
That happened to me with mine Mate 9 and Galaxy devices, you should minimize the sun reflection on the phone as it heats it up massively, don't forget that black colour sucks heat more than any others.
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Thank you. Will be waiting for your reply.

tobias14 said:
thanks, much appreciated
I'm still on the fence whether to hit "buy now" on amazon or not
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If you like a phone where the notifications are not working, you should definetly consider buying it, or maybe you want mine?
I got tired already, that no notifications and floating windows works... and this in a flagship phone...

xperia81 said:
If you like a phone where the notifications are not working, you should definetly consider buying it, or maybe you want mine?
I got tired already, that no notifications and floating windows works... and this in a flagship phone...
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I guess you have the China version with Origin OS?

tobias14 said:
I guess you have the China version with Origin OS?
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Of course, I bought it few weeks ago. There was no other version.

xperia81 said:
Of course, I bought it few weeks ago. There was no other version.
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Well, I definitively avoid phones with CN roms. Basic things like fully working Google apps, notifications, Android auto, 3rd party launchers etc are often problematic with these