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One X vs. One S. Performance and dev

Getting a new phone as I ran over my Razr with my landcruiser 40..
Live in Norway so I would be getting the EU version of the X with tegra 3.
But looking at the benchmarks of the us version (dual core) of the X, it is clearly very fast. Wondering if we would get similar performance out of the S? And would it be as "xda friendly" as I suspect the X will become?
Money is not the issue, just not sure if I would be comfortable with such a large phone.. (well, the Razr had bezels from hell, so it was very wide)

buljo said:
Getting a new phone as I ran over my Razr with my landcruiser 40..
Live in Norway so I would be getting the EU version of the X with tegra 3.
But looking at the benchmarks of the us version (dual core) of the X, it is clearly very fast. Wondering if we would get similar performance out of the S? And would it be as "xda friendly" as I suspect the X will become?
Money is not the issue, just not sure if I would be comfortable with such a large phone.. (well, the Razr had bezels from hell, so it was very wide)
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One S Krait is fast for single app and for 2 apps, but clearly Tegra 3 outperforms Krait in multi-app and gaming performance. So i would say Tegra3 is more future than dualcore krait.
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HTC one s
i m a lucky guy with already an HTC One S. I did the same benchmark than the ones published for the HTC One XL and I ve got the same results.

Rastasia said:
i m a lucky guy with already an HTC One S. I did the same benchmark than the ones published for the HTC One XL and I ve got the same results.
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Proof please of phone ownership.
It doesn't make any sense for HTC to release their flagship with a less powerful processor than their "mid-range" phone.
It wouldn't be the first time a mobile phone company forgot about what makes sense, but it's not like the HTC one X is going to be underpowered, regardless.
I really don't like the look of the pentile screens, which was the main deciding factor for the One X for me.
From the comments on that benchmark blog post it seems the tests are unrealistic; the scores for the alternatives are artificially low (iirc)

One S at its native QHD res vs One X at its native HD res, they trade blows and almost equal, the One X will show its muscles in quad optimised apps only
as for One X vs One XL = One X is better since T3 is better than dual s4 @ 720p

qpop said:
Proof please of phone ownership.
It doesn't make any sense for HTC to release their flagship with a less powerful processor than their "mid-range" phone.
It wouldn't be the first time a mobile phone company forgot about what makes sense, but it's not like the HTC one X is going to be underpowered, regardless.
I really don't like the look of the pentile screens, which was the main deciding factor for the One X for me.
From the comments on that benchmark blog post it seems the tests are unrealistic; the scores for the alternatives are artificially low (iirc)
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It doesn't makes sense, but they have crippled the one s with the pentile screen and low storage.
The s4 chip in the one s is a generation ahead of anything else until the arm A15 chips arrive. Qualcomm krait is supposed to be much closer to a15 spec than the A9 in tegra 3.

proof
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7026471353/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6880371452/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7026471425/

Rastasia said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7026471353/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6880371452/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7026471425/
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congrats on your sexy beast mate, i love the One S
but these benchs are nothing new, Velloma is a not heavily multi-threaded Qualcomm test
excellent Device, what color did you get?

Thé blue/grey one. Do u want me to test on an other benchmark?
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Rastasia said:
Thé blue/grey one. Do u want me to test on an other benchmark?
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
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best color mate! i bet its gorgeous
yes try Antutu https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antutu.ABenchMark&feature=search_result
and GL benchmark offscreen 720p tests https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.glbenchmark.glbenchmark21&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nbGJlbmNobWFyay5nbGJlbmNobWFyazIxIl0.

congrats on having the new device..
may i ask why did u got it so fast... ?!?!

fi3ry_icy said:
congrats on having the new device..
may i ask why did u got it so fast... ?!?!
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it s a test device from a provider
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hamdir said:
best color mate! i bet its gorgeous
yes try Antutu https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antutu.ABenchMark&feature=search_result
and GL benchmark offscreen 720p tests https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.glbenchmark.glbenchmark21&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nbGJlbmNobWFyay5nbGJlbmNobWFyazIxIl0.
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can t get your second benchmark but here s your first request
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7026577361/

Rastasia said:
it s a test device from a provider
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can t get your second benchmark but here s your first request
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7026577361/
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thanks you just confirmed my point of view, Antutu shows off the quads a lot better than a qualcomm test
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HTC ONE X is a wat better with Tegra
hamdir said:
thanks you just confirmed my point of view, Antutu shows off the quads a lot better than a qualcomm test
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This is proof
source
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWRaaAteZg

those who haven't checked Anandtechs' review of the iPad3 i suggest you do, its full of juicy information
having settled all this info in my mind, it's quit easy to draw a clear picture
the Tegra3 is a chip-set that jumped most competitors with such an early entry to quad mobile CPUs, the only other quad in the market is the PS Vita's SOC (Sony CXD5315 build by Toshiba), both quad A9, early worries about memory bandwith/L2 cache are unfounded simply because ARM A9's memory controller can't keep up with more
Snapdragon 4 introduced dual memory channel, major optimization and performance per core, however its advantage is offset by the lack of cores, its a good design for quad but right now its excellent cores will still be stalled by multi-tasking and it's amazing memory bandwidth will go to waste
Right now Tegra3 is still the best Mobile CPU you can have, better than the A5x and dual S4, however the major let down of the Tegra 3 is it's GPU
Nvidia claimed 12 cores GPU on the T3 but that's simply the number of SIMDs and not physical cores, ARM also names its SIMDs as core, but this only confuses customers, Nvidia will use this naming scheme to counter Apple claims, like Asus already responded on twitter
ARM SGX543 MP series has physical core scaling, but its only 8 SIMDs per Core, vs 12 on the Tegra 3, 8 on Adreno225 and 5 on Mali-400, the A5 has 2 cores and hence 16 SIMDs while the A5x has 4 cores and hence 32 SIMDs
In reality the Tegra3 GPU falls a little short of the iPad 2 GPU, while it beats Mali-400 and Adreno225 in most situations but not all areas, Nvidia extracted all they can from this GPU by some aggressive drivers optimization and hacks, this is how they achieved their 3x Tegra2 claim i.e: its already optimized don't expect much room here
Nvidia's GPU is really disappointing but not a disaster, it just doesn't hold a lot of overhead, right now its still the fastest GPU for android and has the quad to back it up once an app is T3 optimized, the quads can add console quality gameplay additions like ragdoll, physics and particles but might not improve FPS (this will require an engine written from grounds up for multi core and i doubt devs will be inclined)
The iPad3 GPU is massively powerful, a testament to the PS Vita's GPU, however unlike the Vita its power is wasted on those pixels and hence games will benefit from it but not the 2x jump from current iPad2/iPhone4s games, like infinity blade 2 shows, it only managed a 1.4x resolution increase without loosing frame rate, so yes most 3D games on the iPad3 will not be retina boosted, why do i keep bringing up iPad? because iOS is still the leader when it comes to mobile gaming and most games we get on Android are ports, the future of iOS games will draw the future of Android games
All this makes me conclude the following
Android's main appeal is still the OS, what you can do with it and multi tasking, which translates into the main appeal for Tegra3, its ridiculous to even think quad cores can not benefit such a heavily multi-threaded OS
Android is still not the best platform for gaming but wether we like it or not, it's best grounds for gaming is Tegrazone simply because we have Nvidia pushing/bribing developers in this direction
If you are buying an Android device right now the best you can do is Nvidia Tegra3 but damn you Nvidia for not being more generous
its been the case for ages, asymmetry between CPU and GPU power, xbox360 had a more power GPU against its CPU, PS3 had the CPU against its GPU, Apple A5x has its GPU against last year CPU, the only SOC that satisfies both angles is PS Vita with its quad CPU and quad GPU but that's because Sony has to worry about the product life cycle which is over 4 years
so you can see Tegra3 has the CPU against its GPU, its not really breaking the norms in here, its business as usual

went for the S.
well, just posted in the S forums..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24454178#post24454178
ended up with the one S instead of the X. the feel of the phones did it for me.

Cpu benchmark .Htc onex VS Galaxy Note Vs Galaxy nexus vs galaxy SII

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guys take a look to chart.Htc OneX is a monster.all small problems will be solved with next OTA Update .
•HTC One X : NVidia Tegra 3 1,5 GHz quadcore
•Galaxy Note : Samsung Exynos 4210 1,4 GHz dualcore
•Galaxy Nexus : Texas Instrument OMAP 4460 1,2 GHz dualcore
•Galaxy S II : Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ 8060 1,5 GHz dualcore
more info :http://www.htc-hub.com/htc/actualites/benchmark-les-samsung-galaxy-impuissants-face-au-htc-one-x/

i see HTC-Hub are back into HTC love, they quickly got over that One S problem didn't they?
apparently this bench is supplied by Nvidia itself and hence i guess we can call it hand picked
ill post it in my mega thread for completion if you don't mind

Are you high?

supendal said:
Are you high?
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who is high? because i said handpicked? they only put it against the galaxy series

I will post new benchmark Sony s and 3 other phones soon.HTC one" is very powerful.minimum 40 percent more powerful than Sony s

That's one of my favorite things about the One X, it's speed. It simply blows away the competition no matter which benchmark software you use. I've had mine a week now and I love it, it is nice to see HTC in the lead again.

it does look awesome with the stunning result. but don't you think the other 3 devices are not the same league as HOX?

THB it's not fair running benchmark with other Dual Core devices. We have Quad Core one of it's kind. Once other manufactures releases Quad Core then we can start the real benchmark tests. Till then we don't need some stupid benchmark to tell we have the fastest device in the world.

JeremyGuan said:
it does look awesome with the stunning result. but don't you think the other 3 devices are not the same league as HOX?
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That's what I thought when I first saw it.

SamStone said:
That's one of my favorite things about the One X, it's speed. It simply blows away the competition no matter which benchmark software you use. I've had mine a week now and I love it, it is nice to see HTC in the lead again.
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the htc one s blows the htc one x mate

jonneymendoza said:
the htc one s blows the htc one x mate
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THIS IS A TOTAL AND COMPLETE IGNORANT COMMENT
we have written, tested,took screenshots and posted links of a billion test, benchmark, article and scientific fact so far
NO THE SNAPDRAGON4 DUAL with ADRENO225 DOES NOT AND WILL NOT BLOW THE ONE X!!!!!! ESPECIALLY IS NOT CAPABLE TO EVEN MATCH THE ONE X @ 720P
do some proper research before you speak!
check the CPU scores in here and shut up! and again the One X is running @ 4x the pixel count! http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-s-benchmarking-war-03221385/

The point is the dual core S4 is extremely close in performance to the quad core T3, while being much more power efficient. I'll take more power per core any day
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hamdir said:
THIS IS A TOTAL AND COMPLETE IGNORANT COMMENT
we have written, tested,took screenshots and posted links of a billion test, benchmark, article and scientific fact so far
NO THE SNAPDRAGON4 DUAL with ADRENO225 DOES NOT AND WILL NOT BLOW THE ONE X!!!!!! ESPECIALLY IS NOT CAPABLE TO EVEN MATCH THE ONE X @ 720P
do some proper research before you speak!
check the CPU scores in here and shut up! and again the One X is running @ 4x the pixel count! http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-s-benchmarking-war-03221385/
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I think you need to do some more research. Yea One S is running less pixels. But in general, Krait is faster. One S is running the slower Krait SoC also, while the One XL or AT&T and Sprint version will be running the MSM8960.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
You need to take into account, that barely anything uses 4 cores and its more of a marketing ploy by Nvidia. Your looking at 4 cortex A-9 cores at 40-45nm vs 2 28nm Krait cores which are a brand new architecture. Krait is more in line with the (but will be slower) upcoming cortex A-15 which Tegra 4 is supposed to be running on and TI OMAP 5 will be using.
On the other hand, Krait still wiped the floor with Tegra in Linpack Multi-threaded.
Here's One XL benchmarks for supports
http://an.droid-life.com/2012/03/26/att-htc-one-xl-benchmarked-blowing-away-other-phones-already/
In real world usage, Krait will be faster with it newer generation cores vs Tegra 3's older generation. Barely anything will be optimized for 4 cores besides Tegra zone games most likely, but even then.....Krait cores will hold their ground.
The one benchmark that Tegra 3 destroys at is Antutu because it actually uses all 4-cores but isn't a good real representation of real world performance.
GPU-wise, they're about on par.....but this is a CPU thread. The Krait Pro SoC will pack the upgraded adreno GPU

exactly GPU is on par at QHD, at 720p it won't keep up and GPUs on Android are lacking more than CPUs
as for krait pro we r not talking about future announced devices here are we? my response was about One S/XL
and not just Antutu u can see that is the slashgear link I posted

hamdir said:
THIS IS A TOTAL AND COMPLETE IGNORANT COMMENT
we have written, tested,took screenshots and posted links of a billion test, benchmark, article and scientific fact so far
NO THE SNAPDRAGON4 DUAL with ADRENO225 DOES NOT AND WILL NOT BLOW THE ONE X!!!!!! ESPECIALLY IS NOT CAPABLE TO EVEN MATCH THE ONE X @ 720P
do some proper research before you speak!
check the CPU scores in here and shut up! and again the One X is running @ 4x the pixel count! http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-s-benchmarking-war-03221385/
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The very link you typed has the one x losing in several benchmarks.
You're completely wrong my friend. Not to mention the fact that all the graphics benchmarks are done offscreen (device native res doesn't matter.)

eallan said:
The very link you typed has the one x losing in several benchmarks.
You're completely wrong my friend. Not to mention the fact that all the graphics benchmarks are done offscreen (device native res doesn't matter.)
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the only test is linpack, did you even look at the numbers? the CPU test on every other is taken by t3 in wide margins including quadrant the s4 only balances with IO scores, gpu benchs done offscreen are stated and in those adreno225 falls down

hamdir said:
exactly GPU is on par at QHD, at 720p it won't keep up and GPUs on Android are lacking more than CPUs
as for krait pro we r not talking about future announced devices here are we? my response was about One S/XL
and not just Antutu u can see that is the slashgear link I posted
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ummmm you really should start doing some more research before sounding like your 100% correct about everything.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3/2
MSM8960 beat Tegra 3 in most GPU benchmarks? And Anandtech even said in the ones where the Resolution isn't the same which is only 1 or 2 of those benchmarks, that the Krait will still be faster than Tegra 3.
Dude your fighting a losing war.......as I said before, Krait is a generational gap compared to Tegra 3.
28nm vs 40-45nm fabrication......last years old Cortex cores vs brand new Krait cores. Tegra 3 is more of a marketing ploy and being "Quad-core". It's still mighty fast, but can't really compare to the newer generation architecture.
As you said....this is CPU
Look at the CPU scores on Quadrant, Krait has more than double the CPU score over Tegra.

pewpewbangbang said:
ummmm you really should start doing some more research before sounding like your 100% correct about everything.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3/2
MSM8960 beat Tegra 3 in most GPU benchmarks? And Anandtech even said in the ones where the Resolution isn't the same which is only 1 or 2 of those benchmarks, that the Krait will still be faster than Tegra 3.
Dude your fighting a losing war.......as I said before, Krait is a generational gap compared to Tegra 3.
28nm vs 40-45nm fabrication......last years old Cortex cores vs brand new Krait cores. Tegra 3 is more of a marketing ploy and being "Quad-core". It's still mighty fast, but can't really compare to the newer generation architecture.
As you said....this is CPU
Look at the CPU scores on Quadrant, Krait has more than double the CPU score over Tegra.
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HTC One X - HTC's New Hero Device! Mega Information Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24189921&postcount=15
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24097326&postcount=5
enough research for you?
and in here are you even looking? QUADARANT CPU score is more on the One X and your link your showing MDP performance which is known to be elusive, i'm talking about real world One S vs One X results!
11269 CPU One X vs 8574 CPU for the One S in quadrant, yes IO is making up for it on the s4
I have no doubt in my mind that a quad s4 with adreno 3 will mope the floor with t3 but its not here and the dual s4 matches and can not beat the GPU or multi threading on t3 and hence both r good for HTC fans, one x vs xl, t3 will win but at the cost of less effiecency

TBH, I am not interested in either of them if they can't even match (forget about beating) SGX543MP2 in iPad2/iPhone4S. Even though they are a generation-next compared to that, they still fail by a big margin. nvidia is simply selling them on the basis of brand created from desktop products. Nobody heard about T(1 series), T2 was a dud, I don't have too much hope for T3 either. Let's see how it stakes up when compared against 2012 SoC(s). We will know when Exynos, TI, ST-E (2012 SoCs) are compared against T3. None of them are out yet, but we sure will see them soon.

All around Krait is still better CPU-wise.......less energy, heat, etc...
I'd take 2 newer generation cores any day over 4 old ones, which aren't even being really used.
And yea, with all the competition set to release their flagships and SoC soon.....Tegra 3 is going to get run over.
Will have to wait till Tegra 4 and 4 cortex-A15 as well as supposed Keplar GPU to become a powerhouse. Too much of a marketing ploy right now and being the first "Quad-core"

[Updated]Spice Stellar Horizon(Mi-500)Rs.11,999-ICS-5inch-1Ghz-Snapdragon-5MP !!

WOW !!!
Looking to buy a Samsung Ace/Ace duos (or) any phone in the 10k-18k range, then you cannot look anywhere else after you read this post completely !!!
Spice Mobility has released a really HOT phone 6th june - The Stellar Horizon(Mi-500) !!!
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Spice Stellar Series:
It has a
*5" inch huge capacitive touch screen !!
*512 MB RAM + 4 GB ROM + SD card upto 32 GB
*Qualcomm Snapdragon processor running at 1Ghz !(I don't think it is a MediaTek device!)
*A huge 2150 mAh battery to have the best battery backup for a 5 inch phone!
*It comes with Gingerbread, but upgradable to ICS !!
*Adreno 205 for stunning graphics!
*5MP camera - Camera resolution of 2592 x 1944 pixels with LED flash & 0.3 MP front camera.
*It is a DUAL-SIM (dual standby) phone !!
Other things are same as other Android phones - Wifi,Bluetooth,GPS,3G!!
*The release date has not been announced yet.
BEST OF ALL, IT COSTS Rs.11,999 !!!!
It is just amazing !!!! It competes with phone at the 18k-20k range !!!
What do you think?? Post it here!

Great Phone
Great phone specs are tooo good but what is screen resolution of this phone
and thanks for posting this phone

Donno about the hardware quality but this phone is tooooooooooooooooooooooooo cool.
I currently have Dell Streak 5" but MI-500 beats it in all the specs and prices too

I have Spice MI 410, and can say, it has good hardware quality ...... very much satisfied with MI 410 enjoying android over it ....:0
Expecting this too have good harware quality .... will look the future of the same

Never used Spice ever.. let's see. I am sure that your comments would be true for the MI-500 also. I might be switching to MI-500 due to ICS 4 from my Dell Streak 5
Would love see comments from other spice users regarding hardware

OP ... Pls correct the post.. as per the reports .. this one is a Dual Core.
Rgds
Sandy

Any idea if it has HDMI as well?

srawat_itpro said:
OP ... Pls correct the post.. as per the reports .. this one is a Dual Core.
Rgds
Sandy
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Okay....will add it!!
contactsonia said:
Any idea if it has HDMI as well?
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Dunno.......it most probably will have because an older phone from spice - mi410 had one....
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I didn't find the COMPLETE specs anywhere on the web......we'll have to wait for spice to start the sales or gsm arena to post the complete specs!!

Spice Mi-500 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 1GHz Dual-Core processor. It is even not clear whether it has a LED flash. Comes with ICS out of the box.

wowee
Seems more likely to have the MSM8225 at this price point.
The Mi-500 is said to have a Snapdragon S4 processor.
It has Cortex A5 dual core and Adreno 203 Graphics processor, which if you go by the numbering system of Qualcom, it will be less powerful then the Adreno 205.
I seriously hope not. I am so looking forward to this mobile.
And the screen resolution is definitely going to be 800x480.
Well lets see upon the release of the product in the market

is it a rebranded chineese
does any one know its oem i guess it is a rebranded chinese phone as always.

I was interested to hear about the dual core CPU on the Mi-500. But there is a lot of repeated articles around the net, most are cut n paste from each other and lacking the same information.
The only say 3G, I have not been able to find what bands it supports. If it is only 2100 then its not much better than the four variants of chinese/korean 5" phones (mtk6575 1Ghz, single core based) around the market (ebay & internet stores). Superior CPU, inferior camera.
Notable points,
No LED flash, No auto focus, a step down in feature from their smaller screened Mi-425
CPU Dual core Snapdragon 1Ghz
GPU 300Mhz
RAM 512 (1g would have been nicer to go with the dual core)
3G? HSPA likely
Dual Sim, guessing this will be a 2G only slot and a 3G/2G slot
It seems this brand is aimed solely at the Indian market, so getting one elsewhere might be difficult (only found one Spice brand ph on ebay as an indication)
I would really like dual sim in a 5" phone, But to suit Australia 3G 850/900/2100 would be best, might have to wait 6 months, or forgo dual sim and go for a galaxy note.
I've never liked the small screens on smartphones, its only the new 5" versions that make me consider changing from carrying an old 2G only phone & laptop.
(i found some of the extra info in a thread titled "First Look Spice Stellar Horizon" -google it)
Found the manufacturers website see (si2imobilityDOTcom), no information posted there, nor could I find information on what 3G bands are supported, I guess the answer is "the Indian ones" Though it does seem likely it is HSPA judging from their other phones

sbd3 said:
I was interested to hear about the dual core CPU on the Mi-500. But there is a lot of repeated articles around the net, most are cut n paste from each other and lacking the same information.
The only say 3G, I have not been able to find what bands it supports. If it is only 2100 then its not much better than the four variants of chinese/korean 5" phones (mtk6575 1Ghz, single core based) around the market (ebay & internet stores). Superior CPU, inferior camera.
Notable points,
No LED flash, No auto focus, a step down in feature from their smaller screened Mi-425
CPU Dual core Snapdragon 1Ghz
GPU 300Mhz
RAM 512 (1g would have been nicer to go with the dual core)
3G? HSPA likely
Dual Sim, guessing this will be a 2G only slot and a 3G/2G slot
It seems this brand is aimed solely at the Indian market, so getting one elsewhere might be difficult (only found one Spice brand ph on ebay as an indication)
I would really like dual sim in a 5" phone, But to suit Australia 3G 850/900/2100 would be best, might have to wait 6 months, or forgo dual sim and go for a galaxy note.
I've never liked the small screens on smartphones, its only the new 5" versions that make me consider changing from carrying an old 2G only phone & laptop.
(i found some of the extra info in a thread titled "First Look Spice Stellar Horizon" -google it)
Found the manufacturers website see (si2imobilityDOTcom), no information posted there, nor could I find information on what 3G bands are supported, I guess the answer is "the Indian ones" Though it does seem likely it is HSPA judging from their other phones
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I think We'll have to wait for gsmarena to post the specs that they gathered!!

Do you see what i see... Oh no, not mediatek again...

yuweng said:
Do you see what i see... Oh no, not mediatek again...
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Oh no...........!!!
snapdragon ?? MediaTek ?????
You bought it ??
mediatek ???
http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=csl%20mi-500%20&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CFkQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.lowyat.net%2Ftopic%2F2374419%2Fall&ei=uxTTT4S2JcbsrAfkuuD7Dw&usg=AFQjCNHL3rNfH6CgDdtDAKgXf1NYoX7QLg

Sorry but what's wrong with
"snapdragon ?? MediaTek ?????"

snapdragon is manufactured by Qualcomm & MT65xx is manufactured by Mediatek...However, Mediatek choose to keep secret for their source code while Qualcomm public part of their source code on-line...
With the source code, developers & ROM cookers at XDA can do wonder with it !
Just stumble upon this video about snapdragon melting butter test...
Hilarious but very true...
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i'm one of those “Late Adapter”...

hi
below is the info as per fonearena
link : http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=GQ_...vTzWSPXkETN9Kg
link 2 same : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/50658...r-series-of-android-smartphones-in-india.html
it says spice has partnered with NQ mobiles
The Spice Stellar has 4.0-inch (800 x 480 pixels)capacitive touchscreen display and has 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor with 245MHz GPU. It runs on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread phone), which is upgradable to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). It has 5MP auto focus camera with flash and secondary VGA camera, 512MB RAM, GPS / aGPS and 32GB expandable memory. It has 2000 mAh battery with up to 7h of talk time and up to 120 hours standby.
Note : except for the battery the above seems to be same specs as the Mi410 i have
The Spice Stellar Horizon features a 5.0-inch touch screen display, Android 4.0, 1 GHz Dual Core Qualcomm Snapdragon processor with 300 MHz GPU. It has 5MP auto focus camera with flash and secondary VGA camera.
The Spice Stellar Craze comes with 3.5-inch touch screen display , 800 MHz processor, 5MP camera, VGA front-facing camera, Dual SIM, and runs on Android 2.3 Gingerbread which is upgradable to Android 4.0 ICS. It has 1420 mAh battery.
The Spice Stellar (Mi-425) is now available for Rs. 9,999. The Spice Stellar Horizon (Mi-500) and Spice Stellar Craze (Mi-355) are priced at Rs. 11,999 and Rs. 6,499 respectively. These phones would be available by the end of this month.
The Stellar series of phones would also come with 100 MB free data per month for Aircel customers for a period of 1 year. These phones would be available across India through more than 50,000 retail points including the 750+ Spice HotSpot retail network and Saholic.

haree said:
hi
below is the info as per fonearena
link : http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=GQ_...vTzWSPXkETN9Kg
it says spice has partnered with NQ mobiles
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Link it not working.. it seems it got truncated.

contactsonia said:
Link it not working.. it seems it got truncated.
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hi
i just took it from my previous post
try this one then : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/50658...r-series-of-android-smartphones-in-india.html

[Q] Do you feel 2gb is not enough?

Hi well I currently own a Galaxy tab s 10.5, however i'm not 100% pleased with it. So I was wondering if i should get the tab pro 8.4 instead, but don't know if the 2gb of ram is something that hold the tab pro.
My main problem with the S is the inconsistent performance which I think is because the exynos. On my S4 the performance is very consistent.
Thanks.

Well I hw the 8.4 and wouldn't get anything else, its justnthe right size, I do have a 10 ipad2 and I usenthe 8.4 way more.
As far as memory for it I'm assuming you mean sdcard I would get as big as you can afford,
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cloud71 said:
Well I hw the 8.4 and wouldn't get anything else, its justnthe right size, I do have a 10 ipad2 and I usenthe 8.4 way more.
As far as memory for it I'm assuming you mean sdcard I would get as big as you can afford,
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No, I mean ram, not storage space. The size also for the tab s is something that bugs me after using it for a week i don't like the way a lot of apps looks, they are not optimized for an android tablet with this screen size.

CyberManiaK said:
No, I mean ram, not storage space. The size also for the tab s is something that bugs me after using it for a week i don't like the way a lot of apps looks, they are not optimized for an android tablet with this screen size.
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I haven't had a prob with it, run all kinds of stuff on it, with it stock and more so rooted and with custom rom that is debloated.
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I have never had a problem with not enough RAM memory.
Even not problems with CPU on my 8.4 .
Stay tuned for my first CM11 theme soon.

Hello,
More RAM is never enough. You are comparing technical detail with a subjective detail (logical vs sentimental). It is not a fair comparison. So you must choose what is more important to you.

CyberManiaK said:
My main problem with the S is the inconsistent performance which I think is because the exynos. On my S4 the performance is very consistent.
Thanks.
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The S4 has 2GB of memory. If you're happy with the S4's performance, than the Tab Pro's 2GB of memory should perform similarly. I think Samsung stuck 3GB of ram in the Exynos models in order to match the performance of the Snapdragon 800 / 2GB RAM models. I read the Exynos + 3GB combo barely outperforms the Snapdragon 800 + 2GB combo on benchmarks. The Exynos combo has to perform better to help justify its price.

HKSpeed said:
The S4 has 2GB of memory. If you're happy with the S4's performance, than the Tab Pro's 2GB of memory should perform similarly. I think Samsung stuck 3GB of ram in the Exynos models in order to match the performance of the Snapdragon 800 / 2GB RAM models. I read the Exynos + 3GB combo barely outperforms the Snapdragon 800 + 2GB combo on benchmarks. The Exynos combo has to perform better to help justify its price.
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The 3Gb ram is only for the 12.2 version all others are 2Gb.
Never run into problems with my 2Gb (smt520), and I run ram intensive apps

.:GraveD:. said:
The 3Gb ram is only for the 12.2 version all others are 2Gb.
Never run into problems with my 2Gb (smt520), and I run ram intensive apps
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I think the OP is comparing the 3GB Tab S 10.5 vs 2GB Tab Pro 8.4

Thanks, Cool i just order the pro 8.4 to give it a run this weekend to see how it run.
Yeah i was talking about the tab s 10.5 vs pro 8.4

CyberManiaK said:
Thanks, Cool i just order the pro 8.4 to give it a run this weekend to see how it run.
Yeah i was talking about the tab s 10.5 vs pro 8.4
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Hello,
See: http://www.anandtech.com/print/7886/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-84-and-101-review and http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch

Well I got the tab pro 8.4 yesterday and damn is a night to day difference this one is way smoother than the tab s. And it's exactly what I was looking for, it behaves exactly if not better than my S4.
However I have some questions, is normal that it gets hot like 38~40c while browsing, the backside is not very hot to the touch but yeah is warmer than what I'm a used to.
BTW: @cviniciusm thanks for those links.

CyberManiaK said:
Well I got the tab pro 8.4 yesterday and damn is a night to day difference this one is way smoother than the tab s. And it's exactly what I was looking for, it behaves exactly if not better than my S4.
However I have some questions, is normal that it gets hot like 38~40c while browsing, the backside is not very hot to the touch but yeah is warmer than what I'm a used to.
BTW: @cviniciusm thanks for those links.
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That's pretty normal for a s800.
However it only gets warm on the left of the device and it only started to effect performance after nearly an hour of heavy gaming. (thermal throtling)

Hamza Murad said:
That's pretty normal for a s800.
However it only gets warm on the left of the device and it only started to effect performance after nearly an hour of heavy gaming. (thermal throtling)
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Hello,
About big.LITTLE technology(http://www.arm.com/files/pdf/big_LITTLE_Technology_the_Futue_of_Mobile.pdf and http://www.arm.com/products/processors/technologies/biglittleprocessing.php?intcid=TopNaviL16456# ) :
"High performance requires fast CPUs which in turn can be difficult to fit in a mobile power or thermal budget. At the same time battery technology has not evolved at the same rate as CPU technology. Therefore today we are in a situation where smartphones require higher performance, but the same power consumption.
The development and design of next generation mobile processors is necessarily guided by the following factors:
1. At the high performance end: high compute capability but within the thermal bounds
2. At the low performance end: very low power consumption
ARM big.LITTLE™ technology has been designed to address these requirements."
So, you will get high performance with Pro 8.4 (Snapdragon 800) at expenses of heat and high battery consumption.
Very interesting we are seeing/getting the alternative evolution of processors technology as battery technology has slow evolution, so Samsung is investing on this technology [emoji6]
Pro 10.1 and 12.2 and Tab S use big.LITTLE technology.
See too: ARM big.LITTLE Technology Explained: http://youtu.be/KClygZtp8mA

cviniciusm said:
Hello,
About big.LITTLE technology(http://www.arm.com/files/pdf/big_LITTLE_Technology_the_Futue_of_Mobile.pdf and http://www.arm.com/products/processors/technologies/biglittleprocessing.php?intcid=TopNaviL16456# ) :
"High performance requires fast CPUs which in turn can be difficult to fit in a mobile power or thermal budget. At the same time battery technology has not evolved at the same rate as CPU technology. Therefore today we are in a situation where smartphones require higher performance, but the same power consumption.
The development and design of next generation mobile processors is necessarily guided by the following factors:
1. At the high performance end: high compute capability but within the thermal bounds
2. At the low performance end: very low power consumption
ARM big.LITTLE™ technology has been designed to address these requirements."
So, you will get high performance with Pro 8.4 (Snapdragon 800) at expenses of heat and high battery consumption.
Very interesting we are seeing/getting the alternative evolution of processors technology as battery technology has slow evolution, so Samsung is investing on this technology [emoji6]
Pro 10.1 and 12.2 and Tab S use big.LITTLE technology.
See too: ARM big.LITTLE Technology Explained: http://youtu.be/KClygZtp8mA
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big.LITTLE was bad implemented in exynos 5420...

panda0 said:
big.LITTLE was bad implemented in exynos 5420...
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Hello,
It was on 5410 due to CCI-400 bug.
But it seems to be solved on 5420 as AnandTech and others says.
Do you have any sources to support the bad implementation affirmation, please?

cviniciusm said:
Hello,
It was on 5410 due to CCI-400 bug.
But it seems to be solved on 5420 as AnandTech and others says.
Do you have any sources contrary, please?
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I've read here in XDA Foruns that 5420 don't have HMP mode properly implemented.
It uses 4 A7 cores and 4 A15 cores. OK. But when the load of any of the A7 cores rises up, all the A7 cores are disabled and all the A15 cores are enabled. You probably knows that each A7 should call its A15 companion, but it seems that this doesn't works with the 5420. Also, there are some mentions to thermal throttling that concerns me a little.

panda0 said:
I've read here in XDA Foruns that 5420 don't have HMP mode properly implemented.
It uses 4 A7 cores and 4 A15 cores. OK. But when the load of any of the A7 cores rises up, all the A7 cores are disabled and all the A15 cores are enabled. You probably knows that each A7 should call its A15 companion, but it seems that this doesn't works with the 5420. Also, there are some mentions to thermal throttling that concerns me a little.
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Hello,
I suppose you're right. But, I think a new kernel and driver can solve this whether not a hardware bad implementation.
More information :
1) http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260
"The 5422 supports HMP (Heterogeneous Multi-Processing), and Samsung LSI tells us that unlike the 5420 we may actually see this one used with HMP enabled."
2) http://www.arm.com/files/pdf/Hetero...ynos_5_Octa_with_ARM_bigLITTLE_Technology.pdf

Still waiting for a proper HMP kernel from Samsung otherwise Exynos is not much worth it...
smt520 stock - gt i9300 archidroid

rchtk said:
Still waiting for a proper HMP kernel from Samsung otherwise Exynos is not much worth it...
smt520 stock - gt i9300 archidroid
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Hello,
See http://www.anandtech.com/show/7313/samsung-announces-biglittle-mp-support-in-exynos-5420 :
"
For those not familiar, there are three big.LITTLE models, core switching, in which any of the A7 and A15 cores can be swapped, cluster switching, in which either all A7s or all A15s can be swapped, or HMP, where the kernel is aware of all cores and can schedule threads to any of the cores all at once. This final model is coming to Exynos 5420 by the end of Q4 2013 and will be available to partners shipping product based on its reference platform.
"
According CPU-Z the revision is r2p3, but I don't know what it means.
Unfortunately, I don't know how to verify/confirm whether my device has HMP (Global Task Scheduling) .
Edit: according http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big....multi-processing_.28global_task_scheduling.29
"Upstream big.LITTLE GTS patches were incorporated into the mainline Linux kernel starting with Linux 3.10. This model has been implemented in the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (5420, 5422, 5430) and Hexa (5260)."
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Vernee Apollo (Pro) Official Thread: Unboxing, Hands On, Full Review!

I just received my Vernee Apollo, the long awaited phone that Vernee announced back in March! It's been almost 10 months and this is it! The flagship of Vernee has finally arrived. My video above shows my unboxing, hands on, and first impressions of this device and below I'll write up a quick summary of what I think of the phone.
First Impressions of the Vernee Apollo:
The box is huge because there is a VR headset included
The phone feels very well made and finished quite exquisitely actually
There are some bezels around the screen but I didn't really notice
The phone is large (based on the dimensions) but doesn't feel that big
Screen is 2K, honestly didn't really notice when I first turned it on, looks quite similar to 1080p when not in a VR headset
Feels fast enough for a flagship
The VR headset is plastic but isn't Google Cardboard compatible
Full Specifications:
5.5" 2k IPS LCD Display
MTK Helio X20 Chipset
6GB RAM, 128GB Storage
21MP Camera with Sony IMX230 Sensor
8MP Front Camera
4G/LTE
FAQ:
Will it work on your carrier?
Check Will my Phone work, but in USA most likely not
Does it actually have a 2K display?
100%, checked on CPU-Z, Antutu etc and also looked very closely, it is actually 2K
Does it have 6GB of RAM?
Currently no, it seems like it isn't, as CPU-Z, Antutu and the stock memory manager in Android says only 4GB. Will investigate more.
Does VR work on this headset?
Ish, Vernee's headset in the box does not come with an app to calibrate it nor does it work with Google Cardboard, so it will be a lot more difficult to setup than normal VR headsets. Otherwise, I tested it in Youtube and it works.

Well this phone has all things to hit the headlines and but how many people will this info about this smartphone reach and how many will buy it? But definitely this is the right way to get noticed, atleast for startup.:good:
A win win for both consumer and OEM:highfive:

it is amazing, i like it. good design.

yogeshpatel37 said:
Well this phone has all things to hit the headlines and but how many people will this info about this smartphone reach and how many will buy it? But definitely this is the right way to get noticed, atleast for startup.:good:
A win win for both consumer and OEM:highfive:
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Yeah but what counts the most is updates and soc support from the os and app standpoint. At the end a 820 can be much faster
And thats why its not on the news
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yogeshpatel37 said:
Well this phone has all things to hit the headlines and but how many people will this info about this smartphone reach and how many will buy it? But definitely this is the right way to get noticed, atleast for startup.:good:
A win win for both consumer and OEM:highfive:
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Yup. The only worry I have is the price tag. In this case, Jessie J is wrong (don't think many would get that reference). This is probably the first phone to release with a base of 128GB storage and 6GB of RAM. In the article as well, it's started by a reputable ODM, a little bit like how Oneplus was started by Oppo, even though they kind of deny it.

and313 said:
Yeah but what counts the most is updates and soc support from the os and app standpoint. At the end a 820 can be much faster
And thats why its not on the news
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OS updates and SoC support are not why this is being excluded from the news, they just don't have a big enough marketing engine.
And depending on the price, OS updates are not hte most important. If you're paying north of $600, you should expect the best of the best in terms of support, but if you're hitting bargain bin prices for insane specs, support would be nice, but not as likely.

Yups agreed that they don't have much marketing knowledge but slowly steadily they got to pick up the momentum, unlike few other Chinese OEM which aren't been getting noticed.
At the end of the day there is a phone with 6 GB RAM and 128 GB internal memory with 21 MP Sony camera sensor. That's it!
BTW anyone know about it's price?

zijin_cheng said:
OS updates and SoC support are not why this is being excluded from the news, they just don't have a big enough marketing engine.
And depending on the price, OS updates are not hte most important. If you're paying north of $600, you should expect the best of the best in terms of support, but if you're hitting bargain bin prices for insane specs, support would be nice, but not as likely.
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Its not the price tag that pays for your updates. Look at the nexus line and then at sammy. You pay almost twice the amount for a galaxy device, yet the nexus line gets updates faster. Same goes for oneplus, moto (before they were sold to lenovo)... The only difference is the materials used and design.
And again a 820 will probably be faster with the os, app support
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and313 said:
Its not the price tag that pays for your updates. Look at the nexus line and then at sammy. You pay almost twice the amount for a galaxy device, yet the nexus line gets updates faster. Same goes for oneplus, moto (before they were sold to lenovo)... The only difference is the materials used and design.
And again a 820 will probably be faster with the os, app support
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I didn't say the price tag pays for updates, but for such a high price, expecting software updates isn't that big a thing. Do I expect updates for my $140 Xiaomi Redmi 3? Probably not, maybe a few bug fixes. The higher the price, the more "service" you can expect from them, and included in that umbrella are updates.
And don't forget that the Nexus line is an exception to the rule of software updates, well apart from HTC recently.

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The main features announced:
Operating System: Android 6.0
Display: 5.5 "qHD with 2560x1440 pixels resolution
RAM: 6GB
Internal memory: 128GB
System: MediaTek MT6797 SoC Helio X20
Fund Photo: 21 megapixel rear camera of 8 megapixels Front camera
Structure: Metal Body
Input: USB Type C
Housings: Hybrid dual sim or sim and further expansion memory
Connections: 4G-LTE, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS
Furthermore this device is also characterized by the metal edge that will be of only 2 mm.
Simultaneously should quit his younger brother: Apollo Lite always equipped with SoC Helio X20 but with less features Memory: 4GB RAM, 32 GB ROM and 16-megapixel main camera. In addition, the display will be HD, the support will be for two or sim or single sim and micro SD.
While we still do not know the date of introduction of these new models, some speak of next May, Vernee has already announced that prices will be $ 399 for the Apollo and $ 200 for the lite model.
http://www.vernee.cc/blog/

399 for the main model eh? Seems like a pretty decent price to performance ratio from that. I wonder what the build quality is going to be like though, hmm...

Which Thread to maintain ?:
this one ot the other?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gen.../vernee-apollo-leaks-worldwide-metal-t3361404
BTW Thanks to iacobus86 i add news on Apollo here:
I let you new information about this Apollo. It will take the Helio X25 CPU:
Vernee Apollo's upgraded to be powered by Helio X25 CPU, global first 3D video released !
As Vernee’s flagship, Vernee Apollo gains worldwide attention even though many other deca-core smartphones has been released recently.
Several days before, vernee has published Apollo’s main specifications and renderings. It’s without any doubt that the metal uni-body and high hardware configuration will be the 2 biggest selling points.
Moreover, vernee seems to be pretty good at making tipping points of its every product.
According to vernee’s latest news (https://www.facebook.com/972671569481015/videos/1009421932472645/ )
Vernee Apollo will carry Helio X25 chipset instead of previously said Helio X20 deca-core CPU.
Apollo will come into the market in July, and Apollo Lite in June. And Thor is in hot sale right now.
Vernee Apollo newest 3D rendering video:

6G? Are you kidding me? Just wait and see

399 is quite a decent price in comparison to other phones with similar specs

Any news on Apollo Lite?
Hopefully TWRP appears soon and I'll buy it!

balamu96m said:
Any news on Apollo Lite?
Hopefully TWRP appears soon and I'll buy it!
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Apollo Lite is available and also Twrp from jemmini is available. You can easily find on Vernee forum and needrom
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On September 20th, vernee held the new release conference of Mars in Shenzhen.
Vernee’s partner MTK attended the conference and released the details of its coming product - Helio X30.
According to MTK product manager, the Helio X30 will be the first CPU adopting 10nm technology.
It will still use the three cluster deca-core framework, namely 2*Cortex-A73 (2.8GHz) +4*Cortex-A53 (2.3GHz) +4* Cortex-A35 (2.0GHz).
It will also come with IMG [email protected] Compared with Helio X20, Helio X30’s performance will enhance by 43%, while the power consumption will be lowered by 53%.
Vernee also debut its all new flagship Apollo on the conference, which will carry Helio X25, 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM.
The 21MP camera is from SONY (IMX230). What’s more, Apollo sports a 2k display with 541 PPI, suitable for VR experience.
And word has that Apollo may come with a peripheral equipment which allows it to record 360°video.
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Vernee Apollo: An All-metal Smartphone Engineered from More Than 300 Processes
Vernee Apollo, the first VR-branded MTK flagship, carries deca-core Helio X25 SoC which features up to 2.5GHz main frequency. And it comes with 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM, 8MP front-facing camera, 21MP rear camera and a 2K display. Besides these powerful specs, it also contains a VR box in the package.
Since it is called “Flagship”, the industrial design and technology behind it should be premium to match this name.
Apollo features a relatively rectangular shape. There is no other openings or button on the touch panel except for the receiver and camera. The black display shows great unity with the metal frame. Coupled with 2.5D glass, it delivers wonderful screen-off viewing effect.
Both the back cover and frame are treated with No. 220 fine Zircon and 360° blasting sand, which makes the phone feel smooth and comfortable. The back curve fits your palm pretty well. The simplistic antenna band decreases the band coverage by nearly 40% and overcomes the shortage of traditional three-part design. The metal ratio reaches up to 98%, making the phone elegant and strong-built.
Meanwhile, the screen is a little narrower than the frame, which is similar to the solution of OnePlus One. This design not only makes phone look slim, but also decreases the possibility of the screen contact with the ground in case of falling, which lowers the crack rate. What’s more, after CNC cutting process, the unique metal texture is better showcased and the handling experience is improved a lot.
Even in the detail, Apollo is well-designed. The whole body including the SIM card slot is firmly colored via 2 times of Anodizing process. And there is an anti-glare filter and CD pattern in the camera area. The dual tone flash, fingerprint sensor and volume keys are all processed via CNC cutting. From those details, we can see that Vernee designers attaches great importance to the appearance and industrial design of this model.
In fact it’s very hard to make a perfect product priced at 299USD range. How to balance the design and performance is a big question for most phone makers. However, Vernee seems to offer a great answer to this question, which is enough to show its honesty towards its users.
Now Vernee official holds a snap deal campaign which you can participate here:
http://ad.vernee.cc/2k-display-built-for-vr-deca-core-flagship/
https://www.facebook.com/verneeofficial/
Unboxing

Recived mine .
Deca core Helio X25 mt6797t
21mp camera
64 gb storage
4gb ram
2k display
System android 6.0
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