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The possible advantages of ROOT being disabled in CM9..

I didn't want to post this in the CM9 dev thread because it is not dev related.
First off..
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
Users will be able to configure their exposure to root as:
Disabled
Enabled for ADB only
Enabled for Apps only
Enabled for both
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So this is what I am thinking.. The CM team is not just going to come out and say "This is how we get around Google's (and other's) 'you can't use this app if your device is rooted' thing".. But if you can disable/enable root with a setting it seems to me you wont have to worry about not being able to access certain apps, or features of apps, because of root.
Example: My "Horrible Bosses" BD came with a digital copy only accessible through the Flixster app. Because of the "security risks" Flixster will only let you view/download the movie on non-rooted devices. The simple fix to this was to download OTArootkeeper (which is an awesome app), the app essentially is a switch to enable/disable root access. Turn root off, Flixster never knows the difference.
It seems to me CM has just integrated this feature into their ROM, and maybe improved upon it. Any time an app (Flixster, Google Video & even maybe Google Wallet) will not work because you are on a rooted device, just turn it off. I have even heard of some people that cannot access databases at work because of root, seams like the same thing applies here.
So what do y'all think? Does this sound like a legitimate thought? Obviously being rooted is a security risk, and CM is becoming more mainstream. But still.. Do you think I am that far off? And do you think the "feature" will function just like I have described it? Just came to get you opinions on this change.

Sounds like you've hit the nail on the head there, although I don't see why company's don't want you consuming there content if your rooted.

Jameslepable said:
Sounds like you've hit the nail on the head there, although I don't see why company's don't want you consuming there content if your rooted.
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The MPAA/RIAA don't understand technology, that's why. Remember SOPA/PIPA?

Why does root matter? I am rooted and can rent movies from the market with no issue. Yet people say video is blocked for rooted users. It just worked for me. Maybe cause i am rooted on stock?

RogerPodacter said:
Why does root matter? I am rooted and can rent movies from the market with no issue. Yet people say video is blocked for rooted users. It just worked for me. Maybe cause i am rooted on stock?
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Possibly, the last time I tried I got shot down. I'm not sure which of the root option(s) the Market looks for (?). Want to test, but can't find a movie I want to see just yet.

Root matters to watch videos from the market. Unroot, watch, then reroot.
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OTA Rootkeeper can temporarily unroot and then reroot any ROM. Tested and works with rented movies.
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My job has a BYOD policy that allows everyone in the company to get their email on their phones. They make you go through the Touchdown app and MobileIron.
This program reports back to them if your phone is rooted and they disconnect your account if you are...

Try as I might, I cannot figure out what BYOD stands for.
Bring your own ****?
Buy your own douche?
Maybe my mind is just warped.

adrynalyne said:
Try as I might, I cannot figure out what BYOD stands for.
Bring your own ****?
Buy your own douche?
Maybe my mind is just warped.
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Buy your own device?

mudferret said:
Buy your own device?
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Probably. Don't mind me, I suffer from a deranged and sick mind.

adrynalyne said:
Probably. Don't mind me, I suffer from a deranged and sick mind.
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I think it's Bring Your Own Device.

adrynalyne said:
Try as I might, I cannot figure out what BYOD stands for.
Bring your own ****?
Buy your own douche?
Maybe my mind is just warped.
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Bring Your Own Device
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... possible advantage: have a phone manufacturer use CM as their firmware? yes....?

This was actually mentioned sometime earlier... a month or 2 ago... the idea was that if the ROM provided the best level of customization, root really should not be needed for the average user... but the ROM would still have the option to enable root if the user wanted too...

craigacgomez said:
This was actually mentioned sometime earlier... a month or 2 ago... the idea was that if the ROM provided the best level of customization, root really should not be needed for the average user... but the ROM would still have the option to enable root if the user wanted too...
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That's the problem though. The average user would not know what root is and activate it and would do something to their phone that would cause problems. U.S. carriers will not like this.

I wonder if Tasker or llama could be setup to turn root off when a particular app runs?
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nicholaschum said:
I think it's Bring Your Own Device.
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This has actually become pretty popular in the workplace now and will probably continue to grow...
And to the dude who said bring your own d.ck, I sure hope you do because carrying around someone elses is just wrong.

player911 said:
Root matters to watch videos from the market. Unroot, watch, then reroot.
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But i am renting a movie right now and it plays fine. I am rooted.

Here is a video of the feature in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRyE10eKzqE
Its strange to me that some people are reporting root not affecting Google Video. I haven't tried it on my Nexus, between TiVo Netflix and Redbox there is no reason for me to, but on my Atrix when Video first released I remember it saying I couldnt use the app because my device was rooted..
Those of you able to use the Google Videos app on a rooted device, what root method did you use?

[Q] Hey, where did that come from?

Every time I pull up my task manager to close out apps I find Google maps running even though I never opened it.
Is it triggered by another app, like Facebook possibly?
Er sorry, I thought I was in the Q&A forum. If one of the mods want to move this I'd appreciate it.

Download Autostarts from the Play store. You can prevent anything and everything from running on its own. One of the best root apps out there. It will also show you what the triggers are that cause it to start up.

Esoteric68 said:
Every time I pull up my task manager to close out apps I find Google maps running even though I never opened it.
Is it triggered by another app, like Facebook possibly?
Er sorry, I thought I was in the Q&A forum. If one of the mods want to move this I'd appreciate it.
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Done. Thank you
---Jay--- From the AOKP powered E4GT

u can also do the same thing with rom toolbox. just throwing that out there in case u oen it or was considering purchasing it.
sent from my BMF-D710

Esoteric68 said:
Every time I pull up my task manager to close out apps I find Google maps running even though I never opened it.
Is it triggered by another app, like Facebook possibly?
Er sorry, I thought I was in the Q&A forum. If one of the mods want to move this I'd appreciate it.
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You just discovered why I always delete Maps when I am setting up my phone and I just install it as needed. Autostarts or ROM Toolbox have the option to freeze it on start as well

jayharper08 said:
Done. Thank you
---Jay--- From the AOKP powered E4GT
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Thanks Jay, I'll be more careful in the future

_MetalHead_ said:
Download Autostarts from the Play store. You can prevent anything and everything from running on its own. One of the best root apps out there. It will also show you what the triggers are that cause it to start up.
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Awesome, thanks for the advice. I'll check it out.

veritasaequita said:
u can also do the same thing with rom toolbox. just throwing that out there in case u oen it or was considering purchasing it.
sent from my BMF-D710
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I think I already have that lol I'll have to check to be sure. I have tons of apps I haven't reloaded because of all my ROM hopping!
I do have it, ROM toolbox Pro actually lol yay me!

JohnCorleone said:
You just discovered why I always delete Maps when I am setting up my phone and I just install it as needed. Autostarts or ROM Toolbox have the option to freeze it on start as well
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Does deleting Maps affect navigational apps?

Esoteric68 said:
Does deleting Maps affect navigational apps?
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It may depending on the app. It would be easier to just freeze apps that you don't need or use. If you get an error because of a dependency, it's usually far easier to defrost the app than to reinstall it (especially if it is categorized as a system app).

tdunham said:
It may depending on the app. It would be easier to just freeze apps that you don't need or use. If you get an error because of a dependency, it's usually far easier to defrost the app than to reinstall it (especially if it is categorized as a system app).
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I think I'd prefer that option although I realize re-installing Maps wouldn't exactly be a hassle. It isn't really eating up battery or getting in the way I just wondered why it was always there when I knew I hadn't manually opened it.
Thanks for chiming in, the more I learn the better I enjoy my phone.

[Q] Pop Up

Does anyone know how I can delete this annoying pop up? I have tried adAway and Addons detector but no luck.

Clearly you installed some free app recently, so go and and remove it or them.

Thanks
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Clearly you installed some free app recently, so go and and remove it or them.
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Thank you for the reply but I have installed quite a few of them. Is there a way I can pinpoint as to which one? I tried long pressing the home buttong to go to active application but even if I end all, it still pops up.

jett77 said:
Thank you for the reply but I have installed quite a few of them. Is there a way I can pinpoint as to which one? I tried long pressing the home buttong to go to active application but even if I end all, it still pops up.
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connect your phone to adb and wait til it happens again. then look in your log which app did what when. i actually had this pop up too but cant remember what app it was :/

Please delete your porn apps
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If you find it with ADB, after I suggest not installing a lot of free apps, especially large amounts of them within a short space, but generally paid apps are worth it. Or you could click yes and see what free apps are offered, maybe they might be developed by the same person/company, and the one you installed might be among those other free apps.

Justinhopaolo said:
Please delete your porn apps
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I don't have any.....not on THIS phone atleast

Finding with ADB
abbott10k said:
If you find it with ADB, after I suggest not installing a lot of free apps, especially large amounts of them within a short space, but generally paid apps are worth it. Or you could click yes and see what free apps are offered, maybe they might be developed by the same person/company, and the one you installed might be among those other free apps.
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I will try finding it with ADB....now to learn how to do that....(searching threads for ADB)

Manage to run ADB logcat
How do I identify which app ran or how do I identify the pop up??

logcat
These are the logs that shows up whenever the pop up comes up. Any idea on which app it is?

jett77 said:
These are the logs that shows up whenever the pop up comes up. Any idea on which app it is?
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what were you doing to replicate this?`starting and stopping music (awesome player)?
you could try abbott10k's suggestion nevertheless.

Nope
lolmensch said:
what were you doing to replicate this?`starting and stopping music (awesome player)?
you could try abbott10k's suggestion nevertheless.
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That's the thing. I was not. I was also looking for music apps that I might have installed recently. I was simple unlocking my phone from sleep. That's when the pop up comes up usually.

jett77 said:
That's the thing. I was not. I was also looking for music apps that I might have installed recently. I was simple unlocking my phone from sleep. That's when the pop up comes up usually.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trustgo.addetector
try this. seems like a quick and easy solution

Thanks but
lolmensch said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trustgo.addetector
try this. seems like a quick and easy solution
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I just uninstalled everything that I've installed in the pass couple of days. And sure enough it's gone. I was trying alot of apps and what-not in the pass week. Thanks very much though for trying to help! :good:
EDIT: Nope...sorry..still there..running out of apps to uninstall...

[Q] Keep getting stock quote

So ever since I got the watch, every day (ie resets once a day) it shows me a stock quote from rl (Ralph Lauren Corp), the watch is the one generating the card because it happens before it synchs with the phone.
The thing is I don't have any stocks entered. I have never had one entered. I don't follow any stocks. This quote seems to be baked into the watch. Anyone else seen it and know what gets rid of it?

Try going to Google.com/finance and see if it is in your portfolio for some reason. If it is, delete it. If it isn't, then I have no idea.

Looks clean, no portfolio.

JeffMD said:
Looks clean, no portfolio.
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I assume you have checked the Google Now > Customize > Stocks menu?
So strange. If you find a fix, be sure to post back and let us know what resolved it.

Maybe it's a sign that it's time to start investibg

AndroidSlave said:
Maybe it's a sign that it's time to start investibg
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+1
Dude, its a sign from God
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Pfft... I was guessing more along the lines that Ralph Lauren paid google to be the default demo stock for the stock app. Anyways it still pops up despite not being in any of the areas listed above.

Try opening the Google app on your phone, go to customize and see if its listed as a stock there.

If I were you I would at least attempt clearing all data from Android wear app in settings and doing a factory reset on the 360 itself. Is your 360 on latest 5.1.1?

gocats7 said:
Try opening the Google app on your phone, go to customize and see if its listed as a stock there.
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Edit: I see that was already suggested, not sure how i missed that post

Question Any way around the "App not optimized for this device"?

A couple apps that I use frequently, namely Walmart and Starbucks, will not allow install because "This app is not optimized for this device"... Is there a safe way around this?

I don't know about Starbucks but, Walmart app installed from backup from Galaxy S10 and is working just fine. Auto rotate and everything.

If it won't load it needs to be updated (the app).
Why would you want either one running as an app? Pure trashware. Don't know about Starwhatever but Walmart runs fine in the browser. Best kept there.
FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instascam, etc are a stone's throw from outright malware. Even if I can I don't want to even use those sites in the browser. I'll never load them as an app.
Not trusted apps... actions have consequences, be careful what you allow to run on your device.

The restore from my original device and then an app store update did the trick. Thanks.

emtownsend said:
The restore from my original device and then an app store update did the trick. Thanks.
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Don't use Smartswitch going between different devices or OS's especially for apps.

blackhawk said:
Don't use Smartswitch going between different devices or OS's especially for apps.
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I was trying to avoid it...

I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen

emtownsend said:
I was trying to avoid it...
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Kies was buggy too.
On the same device/firmware version it may work ok, I'll test it next reload but just for homepage settings, maybe apps.
Always use another backup method for critical data' SmartSwitch should never be the primary backup.
If it works, swell... but don't count on it

blackhawk said:
Kies was buggy too.
On the same device/firmware version it may work ok, I'll test it next reload but just for homepage settings, maybe apps.
Always use another backup method for critical data' SmartSwitch should never be the primary backup.
If it works, swell... but don't count on it
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I miss the days of rooted Titanium Backup... LOL

Somebody on reddit confirmed to me just now it worked for them with a different app
mitchh said:
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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mitchh said:
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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Tried the outer screen for the walkie talkie app for my galaxy watch 4 and it says the same not optimized

Sonin66 said:
Tried the outer screen for the walkie talkie app for my galaxy watch 4 and it says the same not optimized
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hmm weird did you close the store completely then reopen it on the cover screen?

mitchh said:
hmm weird did you close the store completely then reopen it on the cover screen?
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Yep, just tried your suggestion and still a no go for me

Sonin66 said:
Yep, just tried your suggestion and still a no go for me
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yeah I just checked and it says that app isn't compatible with any of my devices if I go to it on my pc. rip

Just get the apk and install that.

chieco said:
Just get the apk and install that.
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How do we get the apk file

blackhawk said:
If it won't load it needs to be updated (the app).
Why would you want either one running as an app? Pure trashware. Don't know about Starwhatever but Walmart runs fine in the browser. Best kept there.
FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instascam, etc are a stone's throw from outright malware. Even if I can I don't want to even use those sites in the browser. I'll never load them as an app.
Not trusted apps... actions have consequences, be careful what you allow to run on your device.
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Not sure why you say this.
I've had these apps for years with no problems whatsoever.

TFDM said:
Not sure why you say this.
I've had these apps for years with no problems whatsoever.
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Simple, they are needless security risks and trashware with active internet access.
If you can't sort this out then enjoy the ride.

Sonin66 said:
How do we get the apk file
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Type the name of the app followed with apk download into Google and many sites who have the apk should pop up. Download it and simply install it.

chieco said:
Type the name of the app followed with apk download into Google and many sites who have the apk should pop up. Download it and simply install it.
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So while I was able to find and download the apk file, it still won't install.