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Broken ICS roms cluttering dev section

Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Well, you see, they are previews. Other developers can get them as well, work on them, and all the devs work on the same project and it's most likly to be finished faster.

It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.

goldfingerfif said:
It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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OP is right. There should be closed QA process with closed Betas and maybe a carrier approval process.

goldfingerfif said:
It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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What?! That's an April fools joke, right? Cause there's no way those can still have work being done on them. I thought ROMs with no signal and odd auto rotations were normal.
On a more serious note I don't mind all the ICS ROMs in the dev section, as said they are still being worked on it's not like they drop 'em and abandon development on them. The devs will get a working kernel whether it's with T989 ICS source when it drops or not but I can only imagine how much time something like that can take even though it may seem simple to some
Now if it was just 1 dev crapping out the same threads I'd say that's cluttering up space

Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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That's what I have been saYing! Pointless Garbage ICS Broken Roms!
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alphadog32 said:
Well, you see, they are previews. Other developers can get them as well, work on them, and all the devs work on the same project and it's most likly to be finished faster.
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I might agree if they weren't just kangs of a non working base. Atleast use one that you can make calls from imo. A rom that you can make calls from might make more sense. All I'm seeing is people taking raver x's base and retheming it. Meh I guess it is what it is lol!
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Android Policeman said:
I might agree if they weren't just kangs of a non working base. Atleast use one that you can make calls from imo. A rom that you can make calls from might make more sense. All I'm seeing is people taking raver x's base and retheming it. Meh I guess it is what it is lol!
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You dont know what youre talking about because xravers rom is AOSP and all the other ICS Roms are not AOSP.
EDIT: I guess you are referring to the MIUI port since its the only AOSP base ICS rom.
a) thats an alpha of a MIUI port ie nobody promised for it to be fully working
b) xraver was looking for someone else to take that project on.

Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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That's the whole point of the 'development' section. XDA was meant to be a website for developers to help each other develop. The influx of smartphone availability brought people like you thinking the world revolves around them and every dev caters to what they want. That's why the moderators are so anal about people not posting things related to development within the development threads.
Mods, please delete this thread. Ego-centric newbie that doesn't understand the purpose of the forum.

Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Besides the MIUI and AOSP (lack data but still being worked on) the other ICS roms are not broken they work fine minus a bug here and there (auto rotation)
So no I do not see it cluttered

Melon_Bread said:
Besides the MIUI and AOSP (lack data but still being worked on) the other ICS roms are not broken they work fine minus a bug here and there (auto rotation)
So no I do not see it cluttered
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Agreed
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Well, that is what you get coming to a development site, expecting to be spoon fed a working ROM as soon as you get here ...
This is not Pimpmyphone.com it is a development site, I don't think it is all the ICS ROMs that are the clutter, I think it is all the NOOBS and people who don't care to learn that are cluttering up the place ...

What the hell are you talking about broken.The only true issue with the i.c.s roms is the auto rotation.That is a kernel issue and is being worked on.In my option these i.c.s roms run better than some G.B.roms IMO.People everyday posted about i.c.s Leak or TMobile said that about it or I'm reading about it's coming.Well we are here,let's help these guys produce the best product for our phones.
FROM A GALAXY BETTER THAN YOURS.

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Is that an April fools joke? I have been going to xda-fullyworkingroms and it redirects me here now. Damn these devs that can't get leaked roms without source code working in a week. Foxconn wouldn't allow this, back to the XDA dormatories.

Were cluttering xda with more cry baby topics. If you read the descriptions you will see the bugs, no questions asked. Grow up or get an iphone.
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Why don't you appreciate what you have? You try to get make a AOSP build. Or an AOSP build from a TouchWIZ kernel. Or at least modify framework.jar or Res to get stuff working. You haven't done any of that. You will see how hard it is. Just enjoy the little things.

What the... The OP was probably the one crying about that we don't have ICS...now we have it and people still complain. it hasn't been out that long. relax and let the Dev's develop the ROM in the development section....sheesh!
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You ungrateful child.

Its kids like this that end up causing devs to abandon their roms... its so sad. I hope the original poster may learn what exactly xda is about. We are a development community. There should never be closed locked betas. Developers share their work to everybody so we can all make progress. No matter what phone it is never ever criticize the developers who are making YOUR phone better.
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Liquid smooth ROM

So I just got my phone back and I've come to discover that the thread for liquid smooth is gone, what happened?
I was hoping to upgrade to 1.4....
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Mods closed it.
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It was closed for violating forum rules for requiring donations for nightlies. A dialogue has been attempted to resolve this but so far has not reached a resolution that does not violate forum rules. Sorry. Hopefully the devs will agree to release and support their nightlies here on XDA.
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Ouch that stinks, it's quite a good rom.
I'll try to track down 1.40 via Google somehow.
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dilat3d said:
Ouch that stinks, it's quite a good rom.
I'll try to track down 1.40 via Google somehow.
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It is still up on Rootzwiki

lowandbehold said:
It is still up on Rootzwiki
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True, and 1.5 is dropping very soon.

Yes but will it be ported or released directly to the GN? I'd imagine they may be releasing via another forum.
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dilat3d said:
Yes but will it be ported or released directly to the GN? I'd imagine they may be releasing via another forum.
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The tread on Rootzwiki is for the Galaxy Nexus.

3rdstring said:
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The tread on Rootzwiki is for the Galaxy Nexus.
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I'll check it out
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dilat3d said:
I'll check it out
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Rootzwiki is just another Android forum...not as good as XDA, but it has what you need.

oh, i don't know. unlike xda it doesn't try and police the things happening on other parts of the internet that don't concern it.
going to #liquids on freenode is an easy way to get builds as they're released. and despite what they'll tell you here, donations are NOT required.
but you're not allowed to disagree or have an open dialog with the mods on xda so they'll lock this thread, most likely.

tspderek said:
oh, i don't know. unlike xda it doesn't try and police the things happening on other parts of the internet that don't concern it.
going to #liquids on freenode is an easy way to get builds as they're released. and despite what they'll tell you here, donations are NOT required.
but you're not allowed to disagree or have an open dialog with the mods on xda so they'll lock this thread, most likely.
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Awe someone is upset that other people on the internet don't agree with him. Boo hoo
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."

when i disagree with someone on the internet i don't censor them. the same cannot be said for xda mods. they locked several threads regarding the matter.
thanks so much for your contribution, though.

tspderek said:
oh, i don't know. unlike xda it doesn't try and police the things happening on other parts of the internet that don't concern it.
going to #liquids on freenode is an easy way to get builds as they're released. and despite what they'll tell you here, donations are NOT required.
but you're not allowed to disagree or have an open dialog with the mods on xda so they'll lock this thread, most likely.
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It wasn't a conspiracy, the mods have a post (and have linked it more than once) that proves that donations were asked to gain access to advance releases, nightlies, or whatever you want to call them. Not allowed on XDA. If it was a mistake on the team's part, then I am sure they can clear it up with the moderators here.

freenode.net issue
I cant for the life of me figure out how to work this freenode.net, what am i doing wrong. people talk about /server then /j #liquid and your in the channel. where do i input these things?

Randroidran said:
I cant for the life of me figure out how to work this freenode.net, what am i doing wrong. people talk about /server then /j #liquid and your in the channel. where do i input these things?
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http://webchat.freenode.net/
Pick your Nickname
Under channels put #liquids
fill in the captcha
log in.

thank you very much

Is anyone working on the WebOS port?

Hey put that flame out!
If no one is working on it, I'll look into building it for the GalNex, though I'm by no means an expert... Just saying, I will if no one else is, someone's gotta do it!
If someone is working on it, fine, I'm not asking for an ETA!
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I believe someone is working on it. I also believe it will take some time until a public stable release seeing how it worked at the moment.

im sure there is, devs arent allowed 'coming soon' threads on xda. also even if they did post and have updates to their progress it would be 1 page of information and 50 pages of noobs asking when can they download a 'stable perfect battery use' version that has no bugs at all. so basically it comes down to, waiting or learning on your own and being the one to 'bring it to the group'.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910582

Darunion said:
im sure there is, devs arent allowed 'coming soon' threads on xda. also even if they did post and have updates to their progress it would be 1 page of information and 50 pages of noobs asking when can they download a 'stable perfect battery use' version that has no bugs at all. so basically it comes down to, waiting or learning on your own and being the one to 'bring it to the group'.
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That's true haha.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910582
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I was actually the last to reply to that thread, but it doesn't address whether or not anyone is making a ROM out of WebOS....
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No, but it is where all the discussions have been to date - why start a new thread?

Darunion said:
im sure there is, devs arent allowed 'coming soon' threads on xda. also even if they did post and have updates to their progress it would be 1 page of information and 50 pages of noobs asking when can they download a 'stable perfect battery use' version that has no bugs at all. so basically it comes down to, waiting or learning on your own and being the one to 'bring it to the group'.
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Lawl
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No, but it is where all the discussions have been to date - why start a new thread?
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Why not, if my question is right there, as opposed to amongst a forum on the subject, the dev for the WebOS port might not see it.
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Cynogenmod 10.1 for galaxy nexus gsm

When will we get cm10.1! Im bored of stock already other roms are useless.. want cna or cm.. so when are they releasing 4.2?
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You seriously had to create a thread for this even when knowing that ETA's are not to be asked for?
Wow!!!

hetunandu said:
When will we get cm10.1! Im bored of stock already other roms are useless.. want cna or cm.. so when are they releasing 4.2?
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dumb

I thought users from the i9100 forums were idiots but thus far, GNex tops it. Never before have I seen such a large collection of idiots on my life. 10.1 is available if you compile it yourself. But I doubt you're capable of completing such a task.
Edit: It appears as though someone has already made a self compiled kang of 10.1.

Try Jellybro.

Its already out
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There is 1 rule to CM and people still can't follow it. Smfh

063_XOBX said:
There is 1 rule to CM and people still can't follow it. Smfh
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And then you get threads full of discussions of people doing mental gymnastics to justify why its okay for them to ask because..
a.) they just asked if there was a timeframe, not an exact date.
b.) they asked politely.
c.) people are rude to them when they ask.
d.) they donated once, or thought about it, or their cousin did.
e.) they are noob and haven't had a chance to read.
f.) there is too much information to go through it all.
g.) they are such a huge fan that an exception should be made for them.
h.) they didn't see the last 10 threads about it.
i.) insert first thing that comes to mind here.

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And then you get threads full of discussions of people doing mental gymnastics to justify why its okay for them to ask because..
a.) they just asked if there was a timeframe, not an exact date.
b.) they asked politely.
c.) people are rude to them when they ask.
d.) they donated once, or thought about it, or their cousin did.
e.) they are noob and haven't had a chance to read.
f.) there is too much information to go through it all.
g.) they are such a huge fan that an exception should be made for them.
h.) they didn't see the last 10 threads about it.
i.) insert first thing that comes to mind here.
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j.) they're ungrateful little ****s, who deserve to have their phones smashed. 99% of the people that use custom roms need to stick to stock firmware or switch to iphones. it's clearly too complicated for them, nor do they understand the work that goes into creating something from scratch. i honestly don't know how developers tolerate such nonsense.

This type of threads annoys me alright.
But what's with the "terror thing" of someone asking for a date? It seems something from a pirate curse or witchcraft.
Jesus. Too much is too much. From either side of the fence.
Relax.

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This type of threads annoys me alright.
But what's with the "terror thing" of someone asking for a date? It seems something from a pirate curse or witchcraft.
Jesus. Too much is too much. From either side of the fence.
Relax.
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Someone asks a stupid question=lets start a thermonuclear war against him.
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D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
Someone is mentally incapable of following the one and only rule=lets start a thermonuclear war against him.
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FTFY

There's more wasted space from people complaining about people asking than there is FROM people asking in most threads lol
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You can compile it now from the cm source. Good luck with it though, mostly unfinished.
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D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
Someone asks a stupid question=lets start a thermonuclear war against him.
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There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
I wonder why people always feel the need to respond to every question out there on the web. Do you honestly believe that with billions of people online you will never find anyone's post that does not follow your specific set of rules? A little naive don't you think?
All you pro's, nerds and whiz kids out there know very well how forums work: you don't reply and the topic is out of sight within hours on a busy forum. Just accept reality or don't read at all. And yeah relax, life goes on.

Yet you replied 7 hours after the last post... The irony.
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You can try jellybro
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There's more wasted space from people complaining about people asking than there is FROM people asking in most threads lol
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AgentSmith said:
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
I wonder why people always feel the need to respond to every question out there on the web. Do you honestly believe that with billions of people online you will never find anyone's post that does not follow your specific set of rules? A little naive don't you think?
All you pro's, nerds and whiz kids out there know very well how forums work: you don't reply and the topic is out of sight within hours on a busy forum. Just accept reality or don't read at all. And yeah relax, life goes on.
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Noobs, trolls and Know-it-alls......

Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.

What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.

Aerowinder said:
So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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jenaltals said:
That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.

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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1

scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.

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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
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