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Hey guys, this is more aimed at people who got the 2013 N7 from the 2012.
Do you think it was a worthwhile upgrade? I got the 2012 N7 HSPA+ version at a discount but the more I read on the tegra 3 and the flash performance, the more I'm disliking it. I've already encountered things like a completely non responsive screen (in chrome only oddly enough), random apps crashing, and a slight delay when I'm reading (scrolling) an article. I actually am OK with the screen it's not bad as some people were saying.
What do you like and dislike about it?
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I preordered a 2012 N7 when it first came out, used it pretty heavily until I got my preordered 2013 N7. I feel like it was definitely worth the upgrade. The screen is much nicer: brighter, more colourful and of course much more dense in resolution. The battery life is significantly longer, especially in light tasks (heavy GPU use will consume the battery faster in 2013 N7, but this can be forgiven for the 5x increase in performance).
General performance is much more snappy. In the 2012 N7 I often encountered lag when switching quickly between apps while installing stuff in the background etc. All this is gone on the 2013 N7. The extra NAND speed is nice too, opening and installing stuff is noticeably faster.
The device also has a nice build. You can definitely notice the thinner and lighter body, and it feels much more solid than last years model.
The only real issue I had with mine was a 'pop' in speakers from touch sounds even when muted, but disabling touch sounds in Settings fixed that. Haven't had any other hardware issues (reboots, dead pixels, dust etc).
Only thing I dislike (very minor) is that it doesn't have a Snapdragon 800 like the new Kindle Fire (same price). This wouldn't affect real world use, it's just an e-peen thing.
Basically, I can't really see any reason not to upgrade.
I preordered the nexus 7 8gb and used it to replace my laptop. I used it daily till I got my 32gb nexus 7 2013.
If you had a 16gb or god forbid the 8gb like me upgrading to the new one is worth the cost.
My original N7 had the issue with screen flicker on low light levels but the hardware was solid otherwise and I had no other issues. My new one has no issues that I have noticed.
Its noticeably faster in the apps I use daily vs the original and its 1920x1200 screen is beautiful.
The battery life I don't really see any better performance over the original, but its also got a smaller battery and a brighter screen..
The 2013 N7 is well worth it and well built Asus learned from the original and I fully recommend the upgrade if you have the money.
Some apps don't support the resolution of this screen but that's changing fast many of the apps I use have already been updated to support the higher resolution.
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OK. Thanks for your opinions. I got the cellular version of the n7 so it has 32gb of flash. I don't consider 16gb to be viable unless if there is an SD port. I am rmaing it today and ordering the lte N7 soon. Thanks again.
I do notice the stutter and I think it has to do with how the T3 enters a power save mode by operating on a single core low power CPU then switching back to the quad when you do something like scrolling.
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I offered my old nexus to relative(mother) and got the new one.
Screen is better, color better.
Form is thinner
Battery is 15 to 25% better.
Lighter
Slightly faster
And better quality
And you got camera
So make someone happy, offer your old one and buy the new nexus 7 for yourself and enjoy your life.
I m looking to buy a tablet, but torn between the two. I play with both device in Best Buy, they both look awesome. I do like the LG for the bigger screen, thin design, look good, and sd card, read about it people stating battery is not very good about 6-7 hours, and dpi is only 273. I like Nexus cuz it come with google pure 4.3 and 4.4 is coming, no bloat ware, the screen is nicer brighter, 323dpi, but smaller screen, one thing I don't like cuz it doesn't have sd card expansion, and heard GPS is a problem. LG 16gb/w microsd slot for $349. And Nexus 32Gb/no slot for $269. Which one is the right one to buy here......Or Nexus 8 rumor coming....
I had the nexus 7, but v will never go back, after playing with the G PAD. IT,s so great on many things. Clever progs, great screen and a little bigger screen. And it,s Damn fast too ?
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Drakh1 said:
I had the nexus 7, but v will never go back, after playing with the G PAD. IT,s so great on many things. Clever progs, great screen and a little bigger screen. And it,s Damn fast too ?
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Agreed. I love mine. It's rooted, sat at 100% since this afternoon 12, and it's 12:45 am right now, and still sitting at 100%. So, the idle battery doesn't even die much unless you're letting useless programs run. I use Advanced Task Killer. Have always used it for my Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, and now my LG G Pad. Works wonders and keeps battery levels great. Just make sure you don't kill any random apps that keep opening up. Also, it's good to freeze useless apps with Titanium if you're rooted. It's super smooth. I've had zero issues with it.
I had the '13 Nexus 7, and while it's a great device (love wireless charging) I found the screen size too small.
I absolutely love the G Pad. I think the 8.3 screen is just about perfect, and the the LG stock rom is very good.
Unlike some people, the battery life has been exceptional for me, and the brightness doesn't bother me much since I usually use the device in bed to read.
I was set on getting the 32gb nexus 7 but then the best buy pre-order popped up for the G Pad. The added screen size, overall design/ build and expand doable memory moved me this way. Loving this thing.
I went through 3 32gb 2013 Nexus 7s. They each had the multi-touch bug, even after the last 4.3 update (JSS15Q?). They were beyond unusable. Couldn't play games, couldn't use Google Maps, could barely use Chrome. I won't be trying any other Asus made Nexus devices for a while, it's clear they cut too many corners trying to keep costs down. I'm probably going to get a G Pad 8.3 but I'm waiting to see if any development is going to come to it. Been a bit slow so far.
I have a nexus flo and a g2...love my g2 ...nexus is plain and dull..screen is great but the stock os takes zero advantage of it, and some apps look worse then they do on my g2... I don't get people's fascination with stock android. I'm guessing the g pad would be close ui wise to the phone, and, had it been out before I bought my nexus it'd be g pad hands down.
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Have them Both
My Nexus 7 (2013) has hardware issues.
I've had the G Pad 8.3 for 2 weeks now. My Nexus 7 has been to the repair center and soon I'll be sending it to a landfill and not looking back.
The G Pad rocks.
I think that the only advantages of the nexus are that it's smoother, lighter and the screen is brighter. Only had the gpad two days so I guess I still have to really make my mind about it.
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i'll probably buy one, but waiting to see if anyone starts working on some custom roms for it first
Hard to compare with the size difference... I find the 7 to be too small and have crazy large bezels. I am very happy to be getting the G Pad with the 8.3. With newegg's price they are almost the same (I got mine for 260... only a 30 dollar difference)
The nexus will get more updates but I find stripped android to be boring unless you have custom roms with Mods. The G Pad will have little to no updates so you get what you get. Still excited!
well good news, looks like we'll see something eventually. dalingrin just bought one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47958836&postcount=26
i have a lot to thank him for, especially since he did work on the hp touchpad
For me, GPad has better aspect ratio then N7 - it's better for daily use
I have both on the way right now and will only keep one... I will post impressions here if you think it would help
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I know this isn't what some will want to hear since this is the G Pad forum after all, but I had the G Pad for about a week. It wasn't a bad tablet, but I returned it to Best Buy and decided to wait for either hard evidence of a Nexus 8 or a good deal on a Nexus 7. I got the N7 32gb last week for $229 and haven't looked back. Even if an N8 was announced today I'd think long and hard about keeping the N7 assuming there'd be a significant price difference.
The N7 is as fast as I could want it to be. I wouldn't say it's noticeably slower than my Nexus 5. Where the N5 has pretty much zero lag, the N7 will lag occasionally, but that's the only difference. Otherwise it is buttery smooth. I was skeptical about whether or not the N7 would work for me b/c I thought the 7 inch screen would be too small, but after having it for a week, I'm totally satisfied with it. It's great for reading and browsing and even works well for comics. As for the bezels...I see people use this as a knock on the N7 and I used to think the same way, but after having the G Pad for a week I realized that you need to have some bezel if you want to be able to hold the thing comfortably. With the G Pad I kept accidentally touching the edge of the screen while trying to hold it and it was really irritating.
One of my biggest complaints about the G Pad was the dim screen -- seriously, it's ridiculously dim...by comparison I was able to read a book on the N7 at under 50% brightness with the sun coming in through a window behind me, whereas the G Pad was almost unusable in any conditions under 50% brightness. I also had the blue line which it seems to me every G Pad has. I know it's hard to notice, but I don't like that it appears when the thing heats up...speaks to possible greater quality control/reliability issues.
Anyway a summary of why I prefer the N7:
Better battery life observed (I get closer to 7 or 8 hours of screen time on the N7 where I got around 5-6 on the G Pad)
Brighter screen on the N7...like Waaaay brighter
More comfortable to hold, both b/c of the bezels and because of the grippy back -- found the G Pad to be too slippery
Stock android (got Kit Kat already)
I have had no issues at all with the N7...I know some have touchscreen issues but mine has worked flawlessly.
B/c I have an N4 and N5 in the household I am getting wireless chargers for all 3 devices.
The G Pad is not bad and I would probably say if you absolutely positively must have 8+ inches then you should get it if you can find a deal, but if I was holding out for that particular size still I would wait to see exactly what the LG V510 is first (i believe it is a Nexus 8, but don't think it is necessarily imminent). For me, the 7 inch screen is working out just fine, so if you think you'd be satisfied with that size then I would say get a Nexus 7.
i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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The V510 could be a Nexus 8 or it could be a G Pad LTE. Either is possible.
yeah, i'm hoping for a nexus version b/c i do like nexus devices, but who knows at this point. i read up on the leaked manual today. not much more info to be gleaned from it however =/
the gpad is on sale for $249 at newegg today with promo code CYBERMND16. thursday there was a flash sale for $179, which i sadly missed. tempting prices.
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i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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for me, 7 and 10 inches are almost not even comparable. I have a 10 inch tablet, and specifically wanted something smaller so it was easier to hold while reading and such. The 7 is filling that niche nicely for me.
G pad has been in the drawer for a while now. Nexus 7 is just so much better to use for me. G pad screen is too dark, sound is crap and it feels like it weighs twice as much as the Nexus. Yes for some things it might be better than the Nexus, but the Nexus is so nice to use overall.
Probably sell it or give it to my mom next time I visit her.
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I've had nexus devices (Nexus 4 then 5) over the last couple of years and had to get used built in battery and storage. This has always bothered me to some degree as i have always felt I've had to compromise one way or another.
The LG G3 now seems to tick all the boxes. Ive never spent the best part £500 on a phone, however i think the LG G3 covers all the bases with removable battery and Micro SD storage plus additional upgrades all round.
The one thing i do love about my nexus 5 is the screen, just hope the screen is a big enough improvement to warrant the expense.
What are your reasons for upgrading from your current device?
I have a RAZR MAXX (not HD). The battery doesn't hold a charge so well any more, and the radio is acting wonky (periodic loss of data connection, requires a phone restart). It's served me well, but time to retire it.
Personally I wish LG had stayed with a 5" 1080 screen, for overall size and run time, but the G3 looks like it gets me to a good point -- a phone that should be a solid performer for someone who keeps them for several years before replacing.
(I have a Nexus 7 2013 that I tether to my phone when I really want a larger display. It's a great replacement for a laptop at meetings, fitted with a BT keyboard/case and mouse, so the 5.5" on the G3 is a "mehh" -- not large enough to replace my Nexus, yet a bit too large for me to be thrilled by on a phone. Everything is a compromise )
S4 why... mmm to enjoy myself ^^ I love Phone and i like photophones... it's always better^^
I really liked my Moto X, but always prefer a phone with a replaceable battery.
Then I dropped it in a horrible (ie. minor) skateboard accident, and cracked the screen. I liked the Galaxy S's, but VERY DON'T LIKE the button placement. Turn off your phone? Oops... just lowered the volume first. Make it louder? Oops... turned it off. I can't believe the S5 *still* has that terrible button placement.
So because the Moto X screen was cracked, and the battery was getting a bit lame after almost a year of use, and because Samsung still can't place a button if their lives depended on it, I turned to the very nice LG G3.
Coming from the G2, stands between the G3 or the OnePlus if I can get an invite before the G3 comes in. Why? Because the screen on my G3 have gotten a crack!
I have a Galaxy S3. (fantastic phone in its prime.)
I feel like I'm due for an upgrade. The battery life has gone down hill and I just want something new.
The G3 has really caught my attention but the questionable battery life and locked bootloader has me questioning myself. If I don't get a G3, I'll wait for the Note 4.
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I had the Xperia Z before switching over to my G3.
There are so many reasons why I made the switch, but one that stands out is the poor battery life paired with the non-removable battery on the Z that always bugged me. The second reason was that the flaps of my Z were becoming lose and one even came off which rendered the water proof feature useless. The third is just the features that the G3 offers. Some say the screen and laser focus is a gimmick, but results speaks for itself. I am so glad i've purchase the G3.
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I had the Xperia Z before switching over to my G3.
There are so many reasons why I made the switch, but one that stands out is the poor battery life paired with the non-removable battery on the Z that always bugged me. The second reason was that the flaps of my Z were becoming lose and one even came off which rendered the water proof feature useless. The third is just the features that the G3 offers. Some say the screen and laser focus is a gimmick, but results speaks for itself. I am so glad i've purchase the G3.
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What a coincidence. I have Z Ultra, which is going to be ebayed soon.
And I got Z Ultra to replace G2.
Galaxy s4... fantastic phone but like the G3 better lol. And s5 doesn't add much over the s4 and more expensive too so lg is gettin my money this time
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What a coincidence. I have Z Ultra, which is going to be ebayed soon.
And I got Z Ultra to replace G2.
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Lol, nice to see some others here too. My Z Ultra is falling apart badly! That's one of 2 reasons. The other is in trying to get used to smaller screen size again. Z Ultra is pocket splitter when it comes to my work. I'm surprised I haven't broken it in 2 yet.
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Lol, nice to see some others here too. My Z Ultra is falling apart badly! That's one of 2 reasons. The other is in trying to get used to smaller screen size again. Z Ultra is pocket splitter when it comes to my work. I'm surprised I haven't broken it in 2 yet.
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Well, mine is basically brand new, got it a month ago to replace my i6000 (6.5") and G2, which was just wrong phone for me.
Now really hope G3 will be my dream phone. For a while
Currently I am using Note 3 but I will get G3.
replacing my optimus 4x hd to g3
I had a Note 3 and even though I was very happy with it, I thought that a screen almost the same size with the one in Note 3 but in a smaller phone, can be a good exchange. I really want a big screen with the smallest bezels. Now I am using a Moto G and the only thing I hate is the 4.5 inch screen.
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So I'm on the verge to buy a 8 inches tablet and I've come down to a choice between the G Pad and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and would like to have your opinions.
So of course, on paper, I should go with the Tab Pro. Better CPU&GPU, higher resolution, bigger battery, etc. But...the G Pad kinda looks better, has software buttons, has better Roms support (thank you GPE) and is also 150 € cheaper ! I also wonder if the GPE program will allow the G Pad to get updated longer than the Tab Pro.
So is the faster CPU/GPU really a huge leap of performance ? I'm not a huge gamer and will mostly browse the web and watch films.
What do you think ?
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So I'm on the verge to buy a 8 inches tablet and I've come down to a choice between the G Pad and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and would like to have your opinions.
So of course, on paper, I should go with the Tab Pro. Better CPU&GPU, higher resolution, bigger battery, etc. But...the G Pad kinda looks better, has software buttons, has better Roms support (thank you GPE) and is also 150 € cheaper ! I also wonder if the GPE program will allow the G Pad to get updated longer than the Tab Pro.
So is the faster CPU/GPU really a huge leap of performance ? I'm not a huge gamer and will mostly browse the web and watch films.
What do you think ?
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I have the Gpad and it is a nice tablet, however, all the development is for the non GPE version. I also like soft buttons better than physical buttons. But if I were buying now it would be hard to overlook the 8.4 with Best Buy selling it for $249 in stores. It is now $80 cheaper than the Gpad.
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I have the Gpad and it is a nice tablet, however, all the development is for the non GPE version. I also like soft buttons better than physical buttons. But if I were buying now it would be hard to overlook the 8.4 with Best Buy selling it for $249 in stores. It is now $80 cheaper than the Gpad.
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I have tried both. The display on the Gpad is far too dark, not even 300 nits.
"Distribution of brightness as well as brightness are poor. With an average brightness of 291.7 cd/m², the G Pad 8.3 performs worse than all comparison devices: The average brightness of the Google Nexus 7 display is above 200 cd/m² higher! A brightness distribution of 78% is very uneven. Such brightness differences can be seen with the naked eye in big white areas."
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-LG-G-Pad-8-3-Tablet.108906.0.html
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I have tried both. The display on the Gpad is far too dark, not even 300 nits.
"Distribution of brightness as well as brightness are poor. With an average brightness of 291.7 cd/m², the G Pad 8.3 performs worse than all comparison devices: The average brightness of the Google Nexus 7 display is above 200 cd/m² higher! A brightness distribution of 78% is very uneven. Such brightness differences can be seen with the naked eye in big white areas."
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-LG-G-Pad-8-3-Tablet.108906.0.html
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I use the Gpad mostly indoors where brightness is not an issue. In fact I find the darker screen much easier on my eyes while reading ebooks. I have a Nexus 7 I use away from home and outside where a brighter screen works best.
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i've had both. I find the G Pad not bright and the screen not crisp. I also has 2 warranty issues with build quality and screen. I wouldn't recommend it.
I also had a GPad before, screen too dark even indoors (basically full brightness for any dark movie), weird sound, blue line when got hot. Not a bad device, but if you can get a regular 8.4 at similar price they are not even in the same league.
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I have the Gpad and it is a nice tablet, however, all the development is for the non GPE version. I also like soft buttons better than physical buttons. But if I were buying now it would be hard to overlook the 8.4 with Best Buy selling it for $249 in stores. It is now $80 cheaper than the Gpad.
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Can you link me to an add that says tab pro 8.4 for 249? Because every add I see is still 329.00.
As far as processor and development go the gpads processor is more than fine. It can also be overclocked. I find that today's apps or even the best games need no over clocking though. They simply haven't caught up to the hardware. I so rarely have any tablet I own above 25% brightness I'm not sure how bright these guys homes are that they can't see the screen. My home is bright enough that I could cut diamonds and I have no issues, ever, with any tablet. The gtab has 348 nits max bright while the Tab pro goes to 450 so the Tab pro is better for outside direct sunlight viewing though. I find it to be better than the Nexus 7 2013 in fact and I love that tablet. The gpe version can use any of the custom ROMs by the by.
As for the pro tab 8.4 I find the hardware great. Mine did develop a stuck pixel however and I despise the speakers being on the same side. The physical buttons are horrible but I overcame that by using pie controls and disabling the hardware buttons.. The build quality of the 8.4 I find satisfactory, however the range and connectivity of the wifi are pathetic. Overall the hardware and screen are better in the 8.4 but if I'm going out I grab any tablet but the Tab pro 8.4 as wifi range and dropped connections are so bad on it.
All this being said, truthfully if I were you...i would wait to buy a tablet all together. In just a few short months or even less there will be a mass release of new tablets. They will all be quite nice I'm sure if you are looking for the latest and greatest, also, it will serve to lower the price of current models. The one I am hoping for is a nexus 8.9 but there will be a plethora of others.
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Can you link me to an add that says tab pro 8.4 for 249? Because every add I see is still 329.00.
As far as processor and development go the gpads processor is more than fine. It can also be overclocked. I find that today's apps or even the best games need no over clocking though. They simply haven't caught up to the hardware. I so rarely have any tablet I own above 25% brightness I'm not sure how bright these guys homes are that they can't see the screen. My home is bright enough that I could cut diamonds and I have no issues, ever, with any tablet. The gtab has 348 nits max bright while the Tab pro goes to 450 so the Tab pro is better for outside direct sunlight viewing though. I find it to be better than the Nexus 7 2013 in fact and I love that tablet. The gpe version can use any of the custom ROMs by the by.
As for the pro tab 8.4 I find the hardware great. Mine did develop a stuck pixel however and I despise the speakers being on the same side. The physical buttons are horrible but I overcame that by using pie controls and disabling the hardware buttons.. The build quality of the 8.4 I find satisfactory, however the range and connectivity of the wifi are pathetic. Overall the hardware and screen are better in the 8.4 but if I'm going out I grab any tablet but the Tab pro 8.4 as wifi range and dropped connections are so bad on it.
All this being said, truthfully if I were you...i would wait to buy a tablet all together. In just a few short months or even less there will be a mass release of new tablets. They will all be quite nice I'm sure if you are looking for the latest and greatest, also, it will serve to lower the price of current models. The one I am hoping for is a nexus 8.9 but there will be a plethora of others.
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I never saw the tab pro 8.4 online for $249. Only in store at Best Buy. This was before the tab s went on sale today. Not sure if the $249 price is still good.
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I never saw the tab pro 8.4 online for $249. Only in store at Best Buy. This was before the tab s went on sale today. Not sure if the $249 price is still good.
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Op if you can find this tablet at the price he saw it at I'd run to buy it. Don't walk, sprint all out. It would be a steal at $250.00. While it has its issues that price point would more than make up for the inconvenience. Not to mention the latest greatest coming soon would never bear out against such a price.
yes or no? i have iphone 5s
i was thiking about buying galaxy 6.. but then i understood i don't care about benchmarks/heavy games
i want a phone that smooth and great camera..
In my country samsung 6 will cost 907, and LG G3 costs 480 dollars.
IF i will buy LG G3, i will buy LG G4 only if it's worth upgrade
Pondering the same... Samsung galaxy s 6 would've been great if it included a removable battery. I like to know whether I can use a phone long term without fear of the battery dying.
This is my experience with the phone so far. I've been using it for about 3 weeks and I don't have many negatives to complain about.
I came from a Nexus 5 and I was quite reluctant to buy a phone with a heavy skin on top of the android OS.
First of all, you will really appreciate how LG was able to fit a 5.5" screen into a phone that is not as large as other 5.5" phones. It is still a fairly large phone, but not to the point where it's difficult to use.
Secondly, the lollipop update has been pretty great. It feels snappier and smoother than it did on kitkat. I don't think the phone is as snappy as the S6 since it has an older processor, but I don't personally feel the quad HD screen affects the processor and graphics whatsoever. On top of that, the G3 still has one of the most pixel dense displays on the market, even being almost a year old.
If you are concerned about not being able to replace the battery, the G3 is still a great option as most manufacturers seem to be going with sealed-in batteries, unless you go with the Note series.
As mentioned earlier, I don't have many negatives to complain about other than the screen being dimmer than other displays, but that's just me nitpicking because honestly it isn't a big deal to me.
I've had the opposite experience from Yaminashi. I've had the G3 since it first came out. I have not had a smooth experience. It was livable, but barely. I just moved to something else. The thing I miss the most about the g3 are the buttons on the back.
I would say no this phone is one of the worst I have owned, it heats up so much and performance is so slow compared to other phones. They should have made the screen 1080p and it would have been great.