Why do these manufacturers insist on putting magnets in a case that holds a gps device with magnetic compass?! This completely throws off the compass heading and probably affects navigation too. The Incipio kickstand case is pretty nice, even if it does add a little too much bulk. I may just write the company and request a replacement case that does not have magnets, or otherwise try to remove the magnets myself.
Rob
Well I'm about to get a case for mine, had been looking at one with magnets... Thanks for this thread, I wasn't aware magnets would cause such problems. One would assume that case manufacturers know what they are doing... geez.
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Well I'm about to get a case for mine, had been looking at one with magnets... Thanks for this thread, I wasn't aware magnets would cause such problems. One would assume that case manufacturers know what they are doing... geez.
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There is definitely a good chance that the magnets would interfere with the compass. Incipio replied and offered to exchange the case for one of their other ones, but I really like their folio case even if it's a bit thick. You are right though, the manufacturers need to be more aware that putting magnets in a tablet case is a big no-no! I don't know how much an inaccurate compass reading would affect navigation, but it does affect initial heading position when you get a gps fix. The compass in the xoom works really well though and doesn't always need calibrating like some others. Yet in a car with all that metal it can still throw the compass off..... I am just debating on attempting to remove the magnets from the case or just leaving it alone.
Rob
Yeah it's really hard to find a good case that doesn't use magnets... I still haven't decided which one to get because of that lol.
One question came to me earlier - are you sure that the Xoom has a magnetic compass at all? I really don't know, when I first read your post it made sense, but now that I think about it - isn't the compass simply using two consecutive GPS positions (i.e. "1 second ago" + "right now") to determine the vector / direction of travel?
Apart from that, I'm not questioning the effect of magnets on computer hardware in general. I don't think that a magnet as tiny as the ones they build into cases could have any ill effect on hardware though.
It would be great if someone could chime in who has made an experience (good or bad) with a magnetic case - or maybe shed some more light on this...
Guys, I need your opinion about a magnetic car holder for SGS3.
Is it safe to use the Tetrax Fix magnetic car holder?
I mean, my concern is not only about the phone getting loose due to poor magnetic strenght, but the magnetic field interference with the phone functions.
Has anyone tested it yet?.
It looks pretty cool, as it is very small.
Link:
http://www.amazon.com/Tetrax-Magnetic-SmartPhones-iPhones-Players/dp/B0073X45RQ
Thanks.
I have used them for 6 or 7 months with my Motorola Razr in my car and on my golf trolley.
The system has a magnetic button that fixes to your car with a self adhesive pad, and there is a self adhesive plate to fix to your phone. These come in 3 sizes and I would recommend using the largest due to the weight of the S3
They have worked perfectly well, although my phone has occasionally fallen off the trolley when going over rough ground. I've never had a problem with it in the car.
I am not using it on my S3 because the metal piece that fixes to the phone will not let the S3 sit level on a desk, The Razr has a bulge at the top that I fixed the plate near to, so it was not a problem.
Thanks!
tetrax xway
Hi,
Please consider tetrax xway or fix way of any touch screen device like smgIII.
The x stabilize the unit when using touch screen, tubber for vibration absorption, better magenta strength.
Magnets do no interfere it's a patented opposite pole layout solution, more info here
tetrax.com/support/faq-frequently-asked-questions
thanks
stunno said:
I am not using it on my S3 because the metal piece that fixes to the phone will not let the S3 sit level on a desk, The Razr has a bulge at the top that I fixed the plate near to, so it was not a problem.
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Thanks for that. The system does look good though, but I don't really want to have a bit stuck on my phone all the time. I'm thinking getting a second battery cover (when they are available!) might be a solution so that I can swap them when needed. Alternatively some kind of quick-snap piece for the phone that the metal part could be stuck to would be quite good.
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Isadora said:
Thanks for that. The system does look good though, but I don't really want to have a bit stuck on my phone all the time. I'm thinking getting a second battery cover (when they are available!) might be a solution so that I can swap them when needed. Alternatively some kind of quick-snap piece for the phone that the metal part could be stuck to would be quite good.
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You can get a replacement battery cover for the S3 here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11089202043...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1361
My main concerns with the Tetrax holders are:
They clip to vent vanes, whish isn't always the most stable mounting solution.
You cannot rotate them to face the driver, which makes them not ideal for use with GPS.
almightywhacko said:
You can get a replacement battery cover for the S3 here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11089202043...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1361
My main concerns with the Tetrax holders are:
They clip to vent vanes, whish isn't always the most stable mounting solution.
You cannot rotate them to face the driver, which makes them not ideal for use with GPS.
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I know about these but I'd rather have one without the big "galaxy SIII" even if it's just for the car and I wouldn't actually see it
I was looking at the Fixway which doesn't clip to the air vent.
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FWIW, for the past couple of years I've used an alternative magnetic mount solution from krussell - most recently for the last 12 months with my SGS2
Despite some 'spirited' driving, its always remained perfectly secure.
I was worried about the magnetic field, but have had no such problems.
Its by far the best car mount solution I've ever used.
The magnetic disc is stuck wherever you want, and the thin metal plate is stuck to the back of your phone (or as I have done the back of the case)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Krusell-Str.../dp/B000ORXUOM/ref=pd_luc_chashrec_02_01_t_lh
Now that I have my SGS3, I've ordered some cheap painted white self adhesive metal strips to attach to the SGS3 case to use with this magnet.
Ignore the poor 1* review from some plum who blames the product because he tried to use it with an ipod with a platter drive in it!
Watch the weight limitations on the FIX...
Isadora said:
I know about these but I'd rather have one without the big "galaxy SIII" even if it's just for the car and I wouldn't actually see it
I was looking at the Fixway which doesn't clip to the air vent.
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I wanted to get the FIX version as well, but the problem is that it only supports 150 grams or 5.25 ounces, and while the SGS3 by itself weight 4.7 ounces, when I add my Otterbox Defender, it brings it up to 7.4 ounces. So I guess the only options for me are GEO (air vent) or step up to the much pricier XWAY....
Rumor has it that magnetic locks on cases can interfear and/or damage the display.
Is there any truth to this?
no
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Supposedly the screen will lose sensitivity to the touch; where the magnet is located.
See here:
RASTANIUS said:
Hi Guys !
Just looked at this thread and the link on eBay , as I´m also waiting for a high quality leathercase - I´d ordered mine from PIEL FRAMA.
Scrolling down the advertising page on ebay I saw the different possibilities of closure-mechanisms , so there´s my warning:
Beware of magnetic closures , they will make problems with SGN Display in the region of the magnetic flap !!
Statement: PielFrama also produced their first Series of SGNCases with a magentic flip mechanism and MUST change back to nonmagentic snaps !
EmailReply PF :
We have been checking the case with our craftsmen and now, everything is
solved so that, the case you will receive does not have any problem.
This post should solve dissapointments cause of sharing recent experiences !
Ciao Hannes
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Hi Guys,
I have found this one
http://www.ebay.es/itm/New-PU-Leath...ng-Galaxy-Note-10-1-N8000-White-/130774374551
It looks like the official one. Have some one bought it? If so, is the quality acceptable? I am thinking to get one of this, but my main concern is to find a poor quality.
I use the official Samsung book cover that I purchased in grey from the UK, it is the one I use daily as it is very practical for my uses however unless you transport it in a padded case, there is still a risk of damage due to the original book case being so thin and does not close with any kind of locking mechanism.
I overcame this with an excellent solution using a protective zipper pouch called the zeroshock case which is padded inside and has excellent shock/drop proof qualities. Once out of the zeroshock case, in use it has a thin form factor which is perfect for practical uses around the office.
The case also folds to the perfect angle for typing or handwriting using a software keyboard or S-pen in its lower position and also stands up at an upright angle for when you want to watch videos or use it for typing when using a standard /Bluetooth hardware keyboard.
I have taken some pictures of the case demonstrating the above and will add pictures to show you my setup.
Edit: pictures added
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Hi Guys,
I have found this one
http://www.ebay.es/itm/New-PU-Leath...ng-Galaxy-Note-10-1-N8000-White-/130774374551
It looks like the official one. Have some one bought it? If so, is the quality acceptable? I am thinking to get one of this, but my main concern is to find a poor quality.
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I have the cover, and I really like it because of the slim profile. I have the white version of the note and book cover, and I don't want to carry it around for fear of it getting discolored of dirty looking.
Hasc,
Quick question about your pictures. Where did you get the zero case? Also it seems in your pictures you have 2 different pens - one looks like the galaxy note pen and another with the eraser? Can you identify the items in the picture? I understand the s-pen nubs and ring holder to extract them, but i'm curious about the last picture why you have a usb to micro-usb slot cord. What do you use that for?
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Hasc,
Quick question about your pictures. Where did you get the zero case? Also it seems in your pictures you have 2 different pens - one looks like the galaxy note pen and another with the eraser? Can you identify the items in the picture? I understand the s-pen nubs and ring holder to extract them, but i'm curious about the last picture why you have a usb to micro-usb slot cord. What do you use that for?
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sledgie,
I got the zero case from gearzap.com - product id: 19906 - Zeroshock 3 Netbook Case 8.9"-10.2" - black @ 15.95 Inc VAT
pens - black one is the standard galaxy note one with eraser, white one is the Bluetooth pen that is charged by the black micro usb lead on the picture
The white usb adapter is used to connect usb sticks, mice, hardware keyboards etc.
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Hi Guys,
I have found this one
http://www.ebay.es/itm/New-PU-Leath...ng-Galaxy-Note-10-1-N8000-White-/130774374551
It looks like the official one. Have some one bought it? If so, is the quality acceptable? I am thinking to get one of this, but my main concern is to find a poor quality.
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I have finally taken the decision to buy it (http://www.ebay.es/itm/New-PU-Leath...ng-Galaxy-Note-10-1-N8000-White-/130774374551), although it is not the official one (I think the official one is too expensive, 10% of the tablet's value ). I will post the pictures as soon as I get it. On the other hand, I have already a zipper pouch case which is the one I am using daily, therefore I will have a good match at the end.
Damage to Note due to magnet?
Hi i have purchased this cover and found out that the magnet causes the spen to be less accurate in the areas close to where the magnet is.. does anyone know if this can cause a permanent damage? In other thread someone posted this:
I found this in Galaxy Note manual
' Do not use carrying cases or accessories with magnetic closures or allow
your device to come in contact with magnetic fields for extended periods of
time. ' Page 180
but i dont know if this counts i mean.. samsung made it!!
Hi all,
I looked up a long time to find a magnetic Qi car charger, but couldn't find one.
So i decided to built one on my own.
It's just an little adapter to connect a Qi Charger with an universal car mount and stick some magnets on it.
I'm not responsible for any damage to your phone or Qi Charger, or not working mounts!
What you need:
- Qi Charger BC252W
- Adapter
- universal car mount
- thin cardboard (500µm - normal for candy packing) or plasti dip
- Magnets
- superglue
All together about 70€
more about the Magnets:
the easiest setup with good strength should be 8 magnets of 6x4x2 mm.
That's what I'm using atm without a bumper.
Because I don't have a bumper I can hardly tell which magnets will be the best for this. When I tried with a chipcard 8x4x3 mm looked pretty good, but didn't try the effects on the charging current.
The Adapter is 3D printed online at sculpteo and I published it there sculpteo and at shapeways.
That's how it looks like:
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For mounting to the glas I used Car Mount 1. But you should be able to use any mount with this universal connection interface like Car Mount 2, Car Mount 3, Car Mount 4 or Car Mount 5
The new special thing is, that the Nexus 5 is build to fit with a magnetic interface on a Qi charger.
Because of this there shouldn't be any problems with the magnetic field. While testing everything works fine.
Source: ifixit
How to build:
- get a flat screwdriver and remove the upper rubber of the Qi charger with the glue
if you are using 2mm tall magnets stick the cardboard under the rubber. When using 1mm tall magnets the cardboard should placed under the magnets.
- imagine a square and stick the magnets with your glue at the corner, so they look 1mm over the inner ring
put some attention that an edge look to the micro usb port
- cut the rubber in pieces so it fits between the magnets
- stick the pieces with glue between the magnets
- fit up the Qi charger on the adapter (if it's not strong enough use some glue and please tell me)
then it should look like:
using this now for several month and it works great!!! fine charging and no drop (german streets)
Here is a video of how i shake it and how easy it is to mount and dismount!
If you like it, show it to me and spend a beer or two
Edit:
Cheap Version:
didn't test on my own!
what you need:
- Qi Charger BC252W
- superglue, maybe a powerstrip
- universal car mount
- magnets
- thin cardboard (500µm - normal for candy packing)
All together about 40€
How to build:
- remove the upper rubber of the charger
- stick the magnets to the Qi charger. For this imagine a square and stick them to the corners,
so that the magnets look about 1mm over the inner ring
- cut the rubber in pieces so they fit between the magnets
- stick the rubber on the cardboard, and cut them off and stick them between the magnets
- cut off the 4 hooks of the mount, so there is a plane surface
- then stick the Qi charger with the powerstrip or with superglue to this plan surface
Which glue did you use to stick the magnets to the plastic?
that's really wonderful....really like the way you have utilized the things...good job man....:good:
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Which glue did you use to stick the magnets to the plastic?
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normal superglue
should be liquid, dry out and stick to plastic
Nice mount !
I got 2 questions before I maybe try to do this :
- Would this work with the official bumper case ?
- I plan to use a NFC chip to activate several things when I put my phone in my car. The chip would be located on the car mount. Would the Qi + Magnets + NFC combo work together or should I expect some problems (I could workaround the need for the NFC chip on the car mount, but I'd prefer this chip on it)
BTW, that's the damn thing I was looking for everywhere without any success. If I manage to make it and get it working some day, you'll deserve a beer for sure.
EDIT : Third question, about the BC252W, which I didn't know before. I could see that it uses a 1,5 A current which seems good. However, do you know if it keeps the phone charged once the battery is 100% full ? I could not find the answer.
Thanks in advance.
Ano59 said:
Nice mount !
I got 2 questions before I maybe try to do this :
- Would this work with the official bumper case ?
- I plan to use a NFC chip to activate several things when I put my phone in my car. The chip would be located on the car mount. Would the Qi + Magnets + NFC combo work together or should I expect some problems (I could workaround the need for the NFC chip on the car mount, but I'd prefer this chip on it)
BTW, that's the damn thing I was looking for everywhere without any success. If I manage to make it and get it working some day, you'll deserve a beer for sure.
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I don't have a case, so I tried with a stack of two chip cards. The N45 8x2 magnets are to weak to hold your phone secure, but when I receive the N52 8x1 I'll try again, cause they are much more stronger.
The range of the charger is about 1cm and the range of a NFC card is 3cm. When Qi gets enabled it will disable NFC, but when you don't move to fast, it will first recognize the NFC tag first and later the Qi charger.
Ano59 said:
BTW, that's the damn thing I was looking for everywhere without any success. If I manage to make it and get it working some day, you'll deserve a beer for sure.
EDIT : Third question, about the BC252W, which I didn't know before. I could see that it uses a 1,5 A current which seems good. However, do you know if it keeps the phone charged once the battery is 100% full ? I could not find the answer.
Thanks in advance.
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I also couldn't fine, so i decided to build one
Qi is a charging standard, so it should not depend on the device and from what I see it holds the 100% better then my original charger
excuse me sir =)
but...
no more pics of the process?
and even if not
which magnets did u use? did u get those from Ebay as well?
Caniv said:
excuse me sir =)
but...
no more pics of the process?
and even if not
which magnets did u use? did u get those from Ebay as well?
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no sorry. Haven't done more...
what of the "How to build" is not clear?
when you see the charger unmodified and then the modified picture, I think you know what to do.
But let me know, if you are not sure at a step.
I bought them at a webpage for those magnets.
when you search for "n45 magnet 8x2" in google you see them.
But I think the "N52 magnet 8x1" are better, so I ordered them at ebay, but they are still not here.
My car mount only offers a 1" rubber ball ("B" size), like the one on this product.
I could maybe find an adaptator, but I wonder if it would be possible for me to alter the 3D model of your adapter to make such a "B" size ball protrude instead of those little holes, without making it breakable. I haven't got any skills in 3D modeling...
Ano59 said:
My car mount only offers a 1" rubber ball ("B" size), like the one on this product.
I could maybe find an adaptator, but I wonder if it would be possible for me to alter the 3D model of your adapter to make such a "B" size ball protrude instead of those little holes, without making it breakable. I haven't got any skills in 3D modeling...
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Here it is:
sculpteo
shapeways
But you should coat the ball with some anti slip painting.
Edit: Just saw another thread and they are using Plasti Dip
And I don't need to say, that it's not tested
So if you like it...
Craiq said:
Here it is:
sculpteo
shapeways
But you should coat the ball with some anti slip painting.
Edit: Just saw another thread and they are using Plasti Dip
And I don't need to say, that it's not tested
So if you like it...
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That's exactly what I needed. :good: Thanks !!
I ordered most parts already, when I get them, I'll try to build this DIY device.
If I manage to make it work, I'll probably post my own pictures of the process, along with the beer.
Nice work. I was thinking of doing the same thing with the same charger. Still waiting for magnets though.
Any heat issue with this magnet arrangement? I'm not sure about the exact coil location for this charger, but I assume the magnet overlaps with the coil a little bit.
kmckmc said:
Nice work. I was thinking of doing the same thing with the same charger. Still waiting for magnets though.
Any heat issue with this magnet arrangement? I'm not sure about the exact coil location for this charger, but I assume the magnet overlaps with the coil a little bit.
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yeah it overlaps. the coil has the diameter of the inner ring, but there is no heat issue at all. It's warm, but not to much.
There's a project on Indiegogo that's similar to this:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock
I think the fact that multiple people are starting to do this proves it's a good idea.
horatiopositronic said:
There's a project on Indiegogo that's similar to this:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock
I think the fact that multiple people are starting to do this proves it's a good idea.
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That's not magnetic. It's "just" a sticky layer, so when it's to dirty it wont work
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That's not magnetic. It's "just" a sticky layer, so when it's to dirty it wont work
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Nope, he specifically mentions including magnets for the Nexus 5 and 7 in his video, since the back of the N5 isn't shiny. He also has an update showing the Nexus 7 sticking to the magnets.
Any chance you'd give us the .stl file for the mount clip? I have access to a 3D printer and would love to print something practical for once.
Hello,
I finally got the 3D-printed part and the Qi charger. They both fit very well together.
However, I ordered and got some 8x1mm N52 magnets, but they don't hold the phone very well. They stabilize the phone horizontally (not a lot) but can't hold it vertically. My phone got a case (the official bumper) but I tried without this case and it still doesn't hold the phone well. They're less efficient than magnets inside the new Google Qi charger (which can't hold a phone vertically though).
It has nothing to do with your video in the first message. BTW I could record a video of my magnets to show how they perform if needed. So I wonder if my magnets are bad (and if they're really N52)...Did you try your N52 magnets ? If they work, where did you order them ?
Could this be related to the fact that my magnets are 1mm thick instead of 2 ? I doubt it because I tried to stack them (I ordered 20 of them) but it wasn't enough to really hold the phone, even when I stacked 4 x 5 of them.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT : I tried magnets before gluing them on the charger, so I didn't ruin it. So I still wonder if I should order the same magnets from another provider or try ordering thicker magnets.
Ano59 said:
Hello,
I finally got the 3D-printed part and the Qi charger. They both fit very well together.
However, I ordered and got some 8x1mm N52 magnets, but they don't hold the phone very well. They stabilize the phone horizontally (not a lot) but can't hold it vertically. My phone got a case (the official bumper) but I tried without this case and it still doesn't hold the phone well. They're less efficient than magnets inside the new Google Qi charger (which can't hold a phone vertically though).
It has nothing to do with your video in the first message. BTW I could record a video of my magnets to show how they perform if needed. So I wonder if my magnets are bad (and if they're really N52)...Did you try your N52 magnets ? If they work, where did you order them ?
Could this be related to the fact that my magnets are 1mm thick instead of 2 ? I doubt it because I tried to stack them (I ordered 20 of them) but it wasn't enough to really hold the phone, even when I stacked 4 x 5 of them.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT : I tried magnets before gluing them on the charger, so I didn't ruin it. So I still wonder if I should order the same magnets from another provider or try ordering thicker magnets.
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Hi,
Great to hear that somebody tried it and the adapter fit well
Yes I tried 8x1 N52 magnets and find out that they have the same strength my 8x1 N45 had.
So I contacted the vendor and he told me there is no big difference. At least they where exactly the same, just sold different.
When I looked more into it I found a formula:
Strength = magnetisation x volume
N45 8x1 = 2262
N52 8x1 = 2614
N45 8x2 = 4524 <- used in video
N52 8x2 = 5228
So yes you need the 8x2 magnets to get the power.
When you use the bumper try the N52 8x2 magnets.
If they hold it with the bumper please tell me
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That's strange because even when I stack 2 (or more) of my 8x1mm, so it becomes a "8x2mm" magnet, it still isn't powerful enough. My magnets are maybe defective.
I don't know if ordering magnets of bigger diameter (> 8 mm) might help.
When I order neodymium magnets, most of the price is freight so I'll probably order a lot of different sizes to try them all. I'll post news when I'll get them.