I became interesed in using linux apps like wine so i'm looking for some basic tutorials to install linux on my defy so that i can use, both androd and linux whenever i want.
Thanks !
i dont think their will be any basic tuts on it porting a whole os is a trick business. Although you could use some kind of remote desktop perhaps
Well this thread is dedicated about the possibilities of getting a port of ubuntu phone os. Recently displayed and would be launched around MWC 2013, Ubuntu OS will be launched for galaxy nexus! .
although there are short threads present about the topic, aim of this thread would be to provide Support/Bug-Report/F.A.Q if any port of ubuntu shows up for our phone from our great developers.
This is refreshingly new OS.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THREAD--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174544
I am damn sure some-one will take up this great job
Latest: Ubuntu Phone OS Porting Guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
Some of Features of ubuntu phone:(taken from wikipedia)
OS family Unix-like
Working state Current
Source model Open source
Initial release February 2013; 30 days' time
Available language(s) Multilingual
Update method Ubuntu Software Center (+ APT, …)
Package manager dpkg
Supported platforms i386, ARM
Kernel type Monolithic (Linux kernel)
Userland GNU
Default user interface Unity shell
So what may be the hindrances:
What kernel version is it based on
will it require bootloader unlock ;-(
UBUNTU PHONE OS
since it is yet to be released this is an open discussion, if any developer takes this project for defy, this thread will be a F.A.Q/support/Bugreport thread (if ever it happens )
i'm here for tests.
i'm not a developer, but you guys can count with my defy+ for tests. I really would like to have ubuntu phone on my defy+.
I'd love to see Ubuntu Phone OS on Defy. First of all it's based on Android kernel so there wouldn't be much difficulty for it. The sources should be out next month. Also we'll need to find a method to dual boot with a custom kernel because it's less likely for someone to use it as a primary OS.
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Will be very nice to see ubuntu working natively on ours Defy but the specification for minimal resources is beyond the possibilities of defy. So it can be ported but will be very laggy IMHO.
swapnil360 said:
I'd love to see Ubuntu Phone OS on Defy. First of all it's based on Android kernel so there wouldn't be much difficulty for it. The sources should be out next month. Also we'll need to find a method to dual boot with a custom kernel because it's less likely for someone to use it as a primary OS.
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what is ubuntu's packaging method? i mean the OS image?
pgreed said:
Will be very nice to see ubuntu working natively on ours Defy but the specification for minimal resources is beyond the possibilities of defy. So it can be ported but will be very laggy IMHO.
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Not that beyond. Min specs (as stated here) only ask 4-8GB internal storage for an entry-level ubuntu phone, everything else (CPU clock, minimum RAM and multitouch capability) already cover our phone. Plus, as far as I remember (though I can easily be wrong on this, since I haven't touched an Ubuntu machine for months, now), this OS (specially considering it was specifically deployed for running on phones) doesn't take more than 2GB when installed. Again, I can be wrong, BUT... What about multiboot? A class 6 8GB card (or even a class 4, like the one included with our phones) may do the job, and we will still be able to boot CM10+ and ask silly questions to Google Now.
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what is ubuntu's packaging method? i mean the OS image?
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I may be wrong, but I think I read in more than one place it'll be available as a flashable zip. Since the folks there at Canonical were able to boot this little beauty in a Galaxy Nexus, and they intend to release the GNx version (without many workarounds needed to install) before the end of january, I think it's pretty safe to bet on a recovery-flashable zip file. Last, but not least, I think an install script (like the ones devs use in current Android flashable zips) may be slightly modified to install Ubuntu from a system image, specially if you consider Aroma-based installers are doing wonders in matter of personalizing Android installations. This not considering (and in this matter I have absolutely no idea) the possibility of the disk installer of linux distributions be already running scripts very similar to those used on Android flashable zips to install desktop OSs on computers. Devs will be better suited to tell about the latter.
P.S.: if anyone there tried Android-x86, you guys can see the installable image is very similar to an Ubuntu (or any other linux) installation zip. This might lead us in the opposite direction, looking at which modifications were made for the installer to work with Android, and reversing them for a Ubuntu installer to work in a flashable zip.
K3n H1mur4 said:
Not that beyond. Min specs (as stated here) only ask 4-8GB internal storage for an entry-level ubuntu phone, everything else (CPU clock, minimum RAM and multitouch capability) already cover our phone.
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Is nice that you are very optimistic with this. I wanna be so but ... the entry level processor is a Cortex9 ! which is more powerfull than ours and Ubuntu is based on 3.4x kernel and necesitate a bigger system ROM to install (ours is ~350MB). Anyhow will wait and see and ... speculate.
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Is nice that you are very optimistic with this. I wanna be so but ... the entry level processor is a Cortex9 ! which is more powerfull than ours and Ubuntu is based on 3.4x kernel and necesitate a bigger system ROM to install (ours is ~350MB). Anyhow will wait and see and ... speculate.
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It may depend on how far our devs will be able to strip down the OS for our phone, I think we may not require full fledged running desktop compatibility but it still depends by what extent we can strip down the footprint!
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Ubuntu Phone OS Porting Guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
red lens defy+ guinea pig
swapnil360 said:
I'd love to see Ubuntu Phone OS on Defy. First of all it's based on Android kernel so there wouldn't be much difficulty for it. The sources should be out next month. Also we'll need to find a method to dual boot with a custom kernel because it's less likely for someone to use it as a primary OS.
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'm not developer but my red lens defy+ is available as a guinea pig.
Then I can make rather a system as primary OS alpha and p500 use my day-to-day
sorry my english
It would be nice if we had more one option rom. Live freedom!
are there some news? i've founded this video, but I can't understand if this is related to the thread in android development...
in youtube: watch?v=hglLF3dM8Zk (i'm not allowed to post link ^^ )
Kayant had released an alpha preview.. but the ubuntu project will be helpful iff we some how boot up 3.0.x kernel with RIL
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Not sure if this question really fits in here but here it goes.
As Linux kernel is running under Android, how would one write applications that would run native (without Java overhead)? Additionally to the first question, I would like to access camera in that arrangement, like one would for example use v4l2 on PC or similarly?
Thanks,
Damjan
damjandakic said:
Not sure if this question really fits in here but here it goes.
As Linux kernel is running under Android, how would one write applications that would run native (without Java overhead)? Additionally to the first question, I would like to access camera in that arrangement, like one would for example use v4l2 on PC or similarly?
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It really depends on the camera and the kernel the device is running.
If kernel > 2.6.26 (which it should be, as Android 1.5 was using 2.6.27 already) and your camera is supported by UVC, then it's easy (V4L being the best choice). Otherwise, you will need the source and/or binary SDK, which is usually quite difficult to get ahold of.
Hey all. Ever since I learned about the ZF2 and it running on an Intel CPU/SoC vs a typical ARMv7 or ARMv9-based CPU/SoC this idea came to mind. Would it possible to develop a pure Linux (non-Android) based OS/ROM for this device? I run Funtoo Linux (a Gentoo derivative) on one of my desktops and now on a laptop I'm sharing with my brother, and it works great. Having this (or something Ubuntu-based to ease on pkg installs via binaries vs compiling from source for everything) on a phone this powerful would be awesome as well. Besides drivers for baseband / bootloader (of which I know is currently locked at the moment I'm posting this thread) how difficult would this be to accomplish? Does this device boot with EFI? I'd think compiling a kernel for it would be easier than a typical Android kernel since Intel spec is easier to compile for... I'm no developer, but that's my take on it.
Thoughts?
I have a TX201LA tablet runs Android 4.2. Its a dual device 2 systems in 1. The tablet half is what i am focusing on. NOT the dock as I have windows 10 running fine on that half. The tablet is nearly useless as it is on android 4.2. I've been exploring a few options for getting an android update. My tablet runs an atom x86 cpu with 2GB of ram and is quad core cloevertrail CPU x2560. Plenty of power to run a newer android or even chromeOS, cloudready, or remixOS. I've explored those options but Bliss is the most straight forward as there are already x86 builds of Bliss. I think support should be relatively easy to add for my device.
There are a few caveats however I know ways to overcome them if I can get a rom to load.
1. I dont have a unlocked bootloader but I maybe able to unlock using zenfone 5 unlock method. Still no custom rom has ever been made for my tablet, only for similar devices like zenfone 5, galaxy tab 3 10.1, & dell venue 7.
2. Once I get it unlocked, I can load CWM or use flashfire. My tablet boots with Droidboot, which I can replace with CWN via again a zenfone 5 exploit that I have confirmed works with my tablet.
3. Would bliss load things like my LCD driver, touch screen etc? That is possibly the biggest issue. I have the kernel code here, UPDATED: http://support.asus.com.cn/Download....1LAF&p=3&s=587 OR here original: http://support.asus.com.cn/Download....01LA&p=3&s=587
3A. If the kernel code has all the HALS isnt it possible to build a Bliss rom that would be loaded via CWM/Flashfire and then boot-able?
3B. Could the Bliss team build a rom with the kernel code listed above, that I could then test? Or would the bliss team need to the device (I would think not, i hope). If a rom could be created I would GLADLY donate to BLISS.
Love to find out if this is possible. THANKS