I became interesed in using linux apps like wine so i'm looking for some basic tutorials to install linux on my defy so that i can use, both androd and linux whenever i want.
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i dont think their will be any basic tuts on it porting a whole os is a trick business. Although you could use some kind of remote desktop perhaps
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I know this is in the wrong place and i was hoping some people can help. I want to learn Java.
I don't know if i should use windows or Linux, my PC isn't the fastest thing in the world lol. Any help?
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Windows with eclipse works fine.
Edit: For a bit more help.
I dont know if you running 32 or 64 bit, but those links are the download pages.
JDK: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7u2-download-1377129.htmll
Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-developers/indigosr1
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The only time I would recommend choosing windows over Linux is if you are a hardcore computer gamer (and based on your computer not being "the fastest thing in the world" I would assume you are not...). Linux will be quicker, more powerful, and much easier to configure. Try Ubuntu and Linux mint 12. I prefer Linux mint. Its usually more user-friendly and more compatible with most things and is built off the Ubuntu source so you can run Ubuntu specific apps/programs. Linux is also a safer software to run bases on the file structure and cosing as far as viruses/spyware are concerned. And Linux is free. Did I mention that you should be running Linux?
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The only time I would recommend choosing windows over Linux is if you are a hardcore computer gamer (and based on your computer not being "the fastest thing in the world" I would assume you are not...). Linux will be quicker, more powerful, and much easier to configure. Try Ubuntu and Linux mint 12. I prefer Linux mint. Its usually more user-friendly and more compatible with most things and is built off the Ubuntu source so you can run Ubuntu specific apps/programs. Linux is also a safer software to run bases on the file structure and cosing as far as viruses/spyware are concerned. And Linux is free. Did I mention that you should be running Linux?
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+1 for linux
For those of you who managed to install a linux distribution on android, is it possible to use aircrack?
I want to install linux on android for aicrack but the process is somewhat complicated so I would like to know if it's working at all?
How does I set up teh linux?
1- you dont know anything about linux. go ubuntu. we will tweak it after that. version 10.xxx (cant remember exactly).
2- you've used linux before and feel comfortable when thinking about it. go ubuntu/fedora.
3- no worries. you can troubleshoot alone when leenucks acts funny, you su everyday. go arch linux.
bottom line, it all comes to a few package versions.
make, python2, git, jdk, maybe a few others, need old versions. even in ubuntu, if you would like to start from a more updated base image, you'll need to downgrade. arch linux allows this with more freedom, since its more modular.
i havent used fedora for a few years now. used it back when red hat quit doing desktop images, didnt stay long and switched to slack.
i prefer archlinux because it's 300mb'ish iso, allows lvm, luks from live cd, doesnt have a text-based installer but install scripts, rolling release system (prebuilt packages/packages built from src using abs/aur, testing repo), customizable/modular, cli package manager (pacman ), systemd, grub2..
basically, if you like bleeding edge and power to yourself, try archlinux. read the wiki, begginer guide, install guide. first time i did it, i used another pc to help me go through all the steps.
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When you're interested in Linux you can take a easy to use Distro like Ubuntu.
Packetmanagement resolves dependencies autocratically and nearly each software is available as a precompiled Packet
Also such Distros are running 32 and 64bit Programms out of the box.
If you want to learn linux in deep (and have enough time to solve issues) i recommend a Distro like Arch or Slackware.
I use Slackware64 and learned a lot about Linux and the packet and library dependencies.
Because the Packetmanagement does not resolve dependencies.
Even GUI Tools are rare on this Distro, you have to struggle with config files.
Slackware is a pure 32 or 64bit Linux (can be build to a Multilib Linux).
For Example the Android SDK mainly uses 32bit.
Maybe you should try some Distros and use that one you feel familiar with.
Also there are good Resources out in the net which you should read (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, File Permissions, Basic Shell Tools)
Google and en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LPI_Linux_Certification would be a good starting point.
You could also try some Live-CDs, mess with it and when all went wrong only reboot.
Good Luck
Indeed, start Ubuntu, you can even stay with it if you like. But Arch and the install guide give you a good grasp on how Linux works.
Of course, you can develop apps in Windows or OSX, and OSX and Linux are the only two that allow you to build Android from source (basically ROM development). You also need to know Java to develop Android apps, less fun than screwing around with Ubuntu lol.
Good luck!
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Thanks for all the replies guys! Wish me luck lol.
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Thanks for all the replies guys! Wish me luck lol.
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Just to give one final thought, I think Slack would be a better learning experiencing, since it's even more close to Unix than Arch. With Arch you learn a lot, that's a fact, but with Slack you understand even how libraries and dependencies work, kinda the hard way, since you don't have a package manager to take care of it for you.
I think both might be a steep (maybe too steep) learning curve, and Ubuntu will be easier but, Ubuntu does things more their way. It's Linux, but things are different. Eventually, you'll know what i mean.
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Thanks for the input. That's something to look into for sure. I am in no rush to just jump in and try it. I'd really like to learn everything on a basic level like that first.
I'm trying to get the research down before I start messing with the development.
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First of all let me start off by admitting that I am crazy and a noob programmer so maybe I don't understand the problem and am asking a rediculus question.
I was wondering if there was any way of converting C/C++ source into python that could be run on Android. Mostly command line stuff that would be done over adb or maybe even the terminal. I have got the python interpreter google provides running on the command line, I can access it from adb, terminal IDE, Terminal emulator, it seems everywhere, I moved the files into my /system directorys and add PYTHONHOME and ""PATH to my bashrc and mkshrc files located in the "/system/etc" section and now I can call them from those shells. For instance I can call "bash" and get bash, or/and I can call "python" to get python2.6 ( I have no idea how to implement the "Alternative" method of linking executables like in debian on android so it just has to be thought out, i tested with 2.6)
So with that all being said, if the C/C++ bindins for python ( I don't really even know how those work) were ported to android would we be able to use that to port C source?
And a second question. Does the python interpreter googlecode offers run on top of the Delvik VM?
Sounds pretty complicated and interesting, seen a lot of crazy things happen here over the years so I wouldn't say anything is impossible lol I recommend you ask this in the Q&A section though. Or maybe the Android Development and Hacking section, there's a lot of talented programmers over there as well.
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To answer the question you asked: no, that's not a reasonable endeavor.
To answer the one you didn't: it's actually not hard to build most console programs from source to run on Android. You should be able to grab yourself a cross-compiler toolchain, and build the programs yourself. If you're running Linux on your computer, most distros have a tool to build such toolchains, or you can use e.g. MinGW and a Windows toolchain (Linaro might have one) to compile. In general './configure --host arm-linux-androideabi' should set everything up for you.
Obviously, there is a learning curve to building like this, but it's certainly not impossible to do.
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To answer the question you asked: no, that's not a reasonable endeavor.
To answer the one you didn't: it's actually not hard to build most console programs from source to run on Android. You should be able to grab yourself a cross-compiler toolchain, and build the programs yourself. If you're running Linux on your computer, most distros have a tool to build such toolchains, or you can use e.g. MinGW and a Windows toolchain (Linaro might have one) to compile. In general './configure --host arm-linux-androideabi' should set everything up for you.
Obviously, there is a learning curve to building like this, but it's certainly not impossible to do.
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Right on, I just started reading the Linux From Scratch book and it has helped me understand the process behind it all a bit, I still need to finish reading the book and build my own Linux system for the my laptop first as that is what they are talking about.
I actually just got msfconsole or Metasploit running on Android, I ran started it up from ADB. I posted another thread about it with more detail.
I am just mounting the filesystems from the kali.img file that I made a few days ago, I basically just did a reverse chroot and brought those directories into Android's "/" directory and then exported the path variables that you normaly would but since I didn't change root and all the apropriate directories where in their proper place it ran.
My next step is to obtain a method for building the Kali Linux for arm system on a ROM, probably a blend of Cyanogenmod and Kali Linux core or rather just the command line programs. I am assuming that once the tools are available to the Android system folks could build gui's that call those programs and return their values and then bundle it in an apk for installation across devices running the modified ROM.
My end goal is basically a version of the Kali Linux distro that runs Android as its "desktop" instead of kde gnome pxe or some of the others. Then hopefully, maybe, if its deemed worthy, a specialized repository can be maintained for this version of the distro that wouldn't include any of the original gui programs for normal Linux Desktops, but only specialized apk's (instead of .deb or .rpm) that install gui's for android.
Thats what I would like to see, a Super Droid.
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