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[Q] Wich phone should I step in?

I was reading about specifications in Nexus 4 and Optimus G, and they are almost twins, wich one is better?
There's a Oxygen like rom for Optimus G?
Don't know if there's a place for questions like this, sorry if I'm asking in the wrong section...

As many people say... If you care about being the first getting Android OS updates then go for the Nexus 4. OG is exactly the same just a little bit better (according to people words)
As far as i know N4 roms can be ported to OG so i wouldn't find upgrades a big issue besides personally the OG's design is better than the N4.

Nexus 4 has onscreen buttons, 16GB memory and 8mp camera.
Optimus G has capacative buttons, 32gb memory and 13mp camera.
As for roms there are fewer and slightly slower updates but they are still very stable. Not sure what Oxygen rom is, check through the development section.
Dont forget the G also has 4G. Both are good phones so all depends on how you will use it.

wargreymon89 said:
Nexus 4 has onscreen buttons, 16GB memory and 8mp camera.
Optimus G has capacative buttons, 32gb memory and 13mp camera.
As for roms there are fewer and slightly slower updates but they are still very stable. Not sure what Oxygen rom is, check through the development section.
Dont forget the G also has 4G. Both are good phones so all depends on how you will use it.
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Yeah, I think I'll buy a Optimus G instead of Nexus 4.
I have a Optimus One (P500) right now, and there's a rom called Oxygen, it's pure android, even more pure then CyanogenMod.
But I don't mind being the "last" one to get android upgrades.
Thank you, guys. Your answers helped a lot for me to decide wich phone should I buy.

Pedrorudi said:
Yeah, I think I'll buy a Optimus G instead of Nexus 4.
I have a Optimus One (P500) right now, and there's a rom called Oxygen, it's pure android, even more pure then CyanogenMod.
But I don't mind being the "last" one to get android upgrades.
Thank you, guys. Your answers helped a lot for me to decide wich phone should I buy.
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If your into pure vanilla android and flashing roms and don't mind only having 16gb of storage I strongly recommend the nexus. While the aosp roms on the optimus g are pretty good the ones for the nexus are flawless.
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Pedrorudi said:
Yeah, I think I'll buy a Optimus G instead of Nexus 4.
I have a Optimus One (P500) right now, and there's a rom called Oxygen, it's pure android, even more pure then CyanogenMod.
But I don't mind being the "last" one to get android upgrades.
Thank you, guys. Your answers helped a lot for me to decide wich phone should I buy.
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If it exists for Nexus 4 and is good enough, i'm sure someone will take the time to port it. I love G's design way more than N4. Recently had them both in my hand, N4 is a little bit slighter cause is all plastic but personally loved even moer my g.

The Nexus4 has one big plus, it's community and large choice of Roms and Kernel's. But apart from that i find the OG better, and if i had to choose again i would again go for my G.

I'm gonna bet that if you ask this question in N4 forum, most of people will recomend the N4 rather than OG

I've owned both so here are my views.
Both phones look great, I am preferring the OG looks slightly though with the whole 'black slab with a sparkly back'.
4.1.2 seems FAR more stable than 4.2.2, I had lots of crashes/reboots.. I'd go to wake the phone up and it'd not start so i'd have to soft reboot it. I do not get this with the OG despite identical hardware. In total I had 3 N4 all with crash/reboot issues.
Cameras on both are very so so (even the 13mp version)... It's ok for some snaps but don't expect loads.
The N4 used to heat up FAR worse than my OG does.
More screen room on the OG as no on screen buttons, it's also nice to have a menu key on the OG.
Less roms/cases/slower updates for the OG
Lots of good software features on the OG, Wise Screen (like smart screen for samsung), lots of customisation built in, LTE, some cool camera functions like time capture etc.

optimus g vs nexus 5

hi, i want to buy a new smatphone but i don't know if buy optimus g or nexus 5.
According to you, is OG still a good device or i should buy a more recent nexus 5?
Thanks

Really that's a real question?
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atifsh said:
Really that's a real question?
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Don't know if it's real or just a lousy troll attempt...

try to buy nokia 3310

Nexus 5 is better if you are okay with it size

ankit360 said:
Nexus 5 is better if you are okay with it size
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Lol...what size? N5 is 6 mm taller and 1mm wider.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5705&idPhone2=4941

lgog? why not n4 vs n5? n5 is a lot better then lgog(no offense to lgog) because lgog is so slower because of lg rom, never gets any update(Hell they still on 4.4) and both have the same storage, but the n5 have way better performance, i saw lgog doing 11k on antutu(ok, benchs are not 100% ok but they do tell some history).if i would ask that i would do nexus 4 vs 5, then because of dev support and google support i would recommend the n5 just if u need 32gb or if u are a full android enthusiast that needs the lastest hardware .
IDK just my 0.2c

opssemnik said:
lgog? why not n4 vs n5? n5 is a lot better then lgog(no offense to lgog) because lgog is so slower because of lg rom, never gets any update(Hell they still on 4.4) and both have the same storage, but the n5 have way better performance, i saw lgog doing 11k on antutu(ok, benchs are not 100% ok but they do tell some history).if i would ask that i would do nexus 4 vs 5, then because of dev support and google support i would recommend the n5 just if u need 32gb or if u are a full android enthusiast that needs the lastest hardware .
IDK just my 0.2c
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Sloow?!?! Lg og is one if the fastest phones around here...it s very well optimized...i think that it doesnt need any update.
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Nexus 5..... If size doesn't matter then go for it..... Else nexus 4......
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To get a good opinion here you should tell the price difference on both phones, because IMHO don't make sense compare N5 with LGOG you should compare N5 with G2 and LGOG with N4.
Personally I prefer LG on both, even if I need to pay a little more.
AOSP is not for me and I'm happy with LG software goodies and performance, if I decide to void warranty I can do a lot with LG too...

opssemnik said:
lgog is so slower because of lg rom, never gets any update(Hell they still on 4.4), I saw lgog doing 11k on antutu(ok, benchs are not 100% ok but they do tell some history)
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lol

@opssemnik ..wow..you really know about mobiles..i'm shocked to find out lgog is a slow device because it has a crappy software from lg. And to set the standards by some tests,wow,another shock. Are you sure you own a G?have you spent more than 5 minutes with it?fyi,the g is a real beast and the lg gesture ui is one of the best out there. It's way better integrated than samsung,htc or sony.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.

Unless you like the design of og
Nexus 5 is sure a better choice

kimitza said:
@opssemnik ..wow..you really know about mobiles..i'm shocked to find out lgog is a slow device because it has a crappy software from lg. And to set the standards by some tests,wow,another shock. Are you sure you own a G?have you spent more than 5 minutes with it?fyi,the g is a real beast and the lg gesture ui is one of the best out there. It's way better integrated than samsung,htc or sony.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.
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1st i didnt say im mobile expert, but i used lg og on the 1st days(thats why i tried to flash lgog rom on my n4,went all fine but no touch), it was like the s3, it was not slow, but games that lag there, dont lag on my n4, games like gta vice city were doing lag spikes on stock and custom,on my n4 it dosent,ah also google chrome is wayyy more slower then on my n4, and both have the same hardware(few modifications).
Didnt say its a really slow device, but the gain of performance that i had on n4 can be only said because of pure android.
PS: yea that typo on 4.4 i meant 4.1.

Games are running better on the OG. That is fact. And about Antutu, the OG also scores higher. The only really big plus point for the nexus is the Google support.

at first, say, what you need, what you do with the phone, what do you like!
and 4,7" with softkeys ist the same as 5" without softkeys (yes, since 4.4 there is a fullscreen mode but not in all apps
i bought a o G because i like lg UI soo much, i dont like aosp!
quality in both phone is identic

Chrome lags on vanilla too. It's a crappy coded app. Period. Does chrome come as default browser on og?no.do you have lag on stock browser?again,no.So why do you bring to discussion a 3rd party app? Lg may have give use 4.1.2,but at least it's light and very well optimized.
The only thing i don't like about lg ui is the damn launcher. 4x4 grid and that hideous 320dpi is a no go.
Sent from stock LG E975/smart phones,dumb people.

Being an owner of both phones, both are fast. But the n5 is snappier
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

i would say if u are going to pay a new phone today, i would totally go for the Nexus 5, stock android, Snapdragon processor, what more to say?
no overlay on the android from LG at all.
i own a Nexus 7 and i totally love stock android it just is running better then anything else, it's too bad my phone just ain't happy with a custom rom so i can run something like stock android.

I said it before,having a nexus is like having a supersport car. You will have ultimate speed,but no comfort. So,getting a good optimized device like optimus g won't be a loss. You have both speed and comfort.
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Should I buy the LG G3?

Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me

I would say go for it. The generation jump alone is worth it, plus if you can get it for a good price then you should take the opportunity.

Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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nchc said:
Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.

patalao said:
Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.
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In specifications, yes there is a big difference. However, in my experience of how i use a phone those specs dont convert to a great difference in daily use. Its kind of like buying a new car, its nice and you drive it faster to begin with. After a month or so you drive it the same as your old car and get to the same places. Your phone carrier keeps the internet at relatively the same speed too.
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That's why I said that the difference between the g3 and the G is even lower,so there's no point in comparing the 2, in your case of course.
If you don't benefit of the features of the phone then there's no point for you to spend much money on this

Adooda said:
Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me
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if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO

igli83 said:
if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO
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you are all guys right, the thing is that the knock on/off feature can be really useful to me since I use the phone a lot during meetings and the thing is I don't the LG will continue updating the LG OG anymore and the G3 can stay updated for 2-3 years ahead
but I don't know If I should wait for LG G4 or get this one that's my question
anyway thank you a lot

Trust me or not, you won't ever have 2-3 years support, maybe a year and an half, I would wait an half year or even a year and then decide to buy a new phone.

FWIW, my biggest issue with G3 is its size. Performance and functionality definitely gets improved with each generation, and there is no reason for not getting the best if you can afford it, but the the whole "bigger is better" trend is just driving me bonkers. I mean, with every new flagship from any OEM, the phones get bigger and bigger. G's size is perfect for me. G2 is marginally bigger (more if you add a case), but still manageable. That would be the largest form-factor for me to use comfortably. Everything bigger (and G3 is quite noticeably bigger) is just unreasonable for a phone, and getting close to a tablet territory. I never understood WTH a "phablet" is. There is no such thing in my book -- you can't sit between two chairs, you just have to put your a$$ on one or the other. Anyway, just my $0.02 worth...

Anyone switch from the Nexus 5 to the G3

I have the Nexus 5 and really like it, but always craving a new phone. Has anyone switched from the Nexus 5 to G3 and what are your thoughts on it?

I think a lot of us have. This is my first non-Nexus device in a long time and I have absolutely no regrets about the switch. As far as the feel of the phone, it really feels like a bigger & more high end version of the Nexus 5 to me. I'm actually enjoying the features in the LG ROM on this phone as well. Some de-bloating was required but after that this phone is just as fast as my Nexus 5 was. And the camera... there really just is no comparison between the two phones in terms of the camera. It's an enormous improvement. The knock on/off features are really cool as well.
If you like your Nexus 5 but want a bigger screen, significantly better camera, and better battery life then you will absolutely love this phone. I promise.

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I think a lot of us have. This is my first non-Nexus device in a long time and I have absolutely no regrets about the switch. As far as the feel of the phone, it really feels like a bigger & more high end version of the Nexus 5 to me. I'm actually enjoying the features in the LG ROM on this phone as well. Some de-bloating was required but after that this phone is just as fast as my Nexus 5 was. And the camera... there really just is no comparison between the two phones in terms of the camera. It's an enormous improvement. The knock on/off features are really cool as well.
If you like your Nexus 5 but want a bigger screen, significantly better camera, and better battery life then you will absolutely love this phone. I promise.
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I second that, I'm finding very little reason to switch to another ROM although I might want to try another kernel when those do come out.
The built in apps like the LG keyboard, LG quickmemo and LG health are also pretty decent.
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Switched from a N5 3 weeks ago and I'm very happy with my decision. I've had zero issues with running stock and all I've done was root to debloat and run TiBu.

I went from the N4, to the G2, to the G3.

dspcap said:
I have the Nexus 5 and really like it, but always craving a new phone. Has anyone switched from the Nexus 5 to G3 and what are your thoughts on it?
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G3 with the removable battery & sd card is 2 sweet options to have once again coming from the N5, but if you into heavy customization and like to flash lots of Roms to meet your purposes then i doubt your going to get your fill of those things on the G3. If i was you i would check out your phone carrier's development section, and see if the development or lack there of, is something you might be able to deal with long term.

Tweaksbox on this phone makes it as good as any n5 rom. I had the n4 and cousin had an n5 and i was gunna get it in may but secided to wait for this. No regrets. Never going nexus again, never have to worry about storage, battery, having old tech, a better screen or anything. This is the best phone ive used and im a techie so i know my stuff.
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sn0warmy said:
I think a lot of us have. This is my first non-Nexus device in a long time and I have absolutely no regrets about the switch. As far as the feel of the phone, it really feels like a bigger & more high end version of the Nexus 5 to me. I'm actually enjoying the features in the LG ROM on this phone as well. Some de-bloating was required but after that this phone is just as fast as my Nexus 5 was. And the camera... there really just is no comparison between the two phones in terms of the camera. It's an enormous improvement. The knock on/off features are really cool as well.
If you like your Nexus 5 but want a bigger screen, significantly better camera, and better battery life then you will absolutely love this phone. I promise.
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One thing I have noticed is that the camera on the N5 is horrible, so that would be a big improvement. Thanks for the feedback.

DO ITTTTTTT
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KING SKILLZ said:
G3 with the removable battery & sd card is 2 sweet options to have once again coming from the N5, but if you into heavy customization and like to flash lots of Roms to meet your purposes then i doubt your going to get your fill of those things on the G3. If i was you i would check out your phone carrier's development section, and see if the development or lack there of, is something you might be able to deal with long term.
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I am less and less into customization, but I do like flashing ROMs. I am enjoying Android L right now, but I figure in a few months, that will be available for the G3 via ROM or rolled out. Are you thinking there won't be much development for this phone?

Made the switch. The G3 will have development, though obviously nothing like the N5 because it's not a developer phone.
I don't miss my N5 at all. Better screen, better battery life, better camera, MUCH better headphone output, more storage, IR blaster, the list goes on.

SomeGuyDude said:
Made the switch. The G3 will have development, though obviously nothing like the N5 because it's not a developer phone.
I don't miss my N5 at all. Better screen, better battery life, better camera, MUCH better headphone output, more storage, IR blaster, the list goes on.
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Good point, giving up a developer phone, but gaining so much more. I'll have to go look at it more this weekend. Thanks everyone.

dspcap said:
I am less and less into customization, but I do like flashing ROMs. I am enjoying Android L right now, but I figure in a few months, that will be available for the G3 via ROM or rolled out. Are you thinking there won't be much development for this phone?
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If i had to place a bet, i don't think development is going to be that great on this device, usually a device has a strong buzz even before its released about what developers are upgrading to it and so on. I also don't think there was strong development on the G2, and i'm sure its not helping that the G3 is coming on the heels of the M8 and S5 which a lot of the those developers probably upgraded from the M7 and S4. Also with android L to play with on the N5 I don't like the chances of having various Roms on the G3, you might want to stick with the N5 for a while.

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If i had to place a bet, i don't think development is going to be that great on this device, usually a device has a strong buzz even before its released about what developers are upgrading to it and so on. I also don't think there was strong development on the G2, and i'm sure its not helping that the G3 is coming on the heels of the M8 and S5 which a lot of the those developers probably upgraded from the M7 and S4. Also with android L to play with on the N5 I don't like the chances of having various Roms on the G3, you might want to stick with the N5 for a while.
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Thanks for the unbiased opinions everyone! Gives me lots to think about.

brolic925t said:
Tweaksbox on this phone makes it as good as any n5 rom. I had the n4 and cousin had an n5 and i was gunna get it in may but secided to wait for this. No regrets. Never going nexus again, never have to worry about storage, battery, having old tech, a better screen or anything. This is the best phone ive used and im a techie so i know my stuff.
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I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?

kingston73 said:
I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?
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They both use the same SIM standard I think so you can always switch back to your N5 when you need a ROM fix!

kingston73 said:
I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?
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I ran Purity and ART on N5 and then L Preview which of course is uber smooth..but after fiddling with debloating and various optimisations I can say unreservedly the G3 is a fine upgrade over the N5. Better battery, screen and camera top off a truly flagship product even with LGs overlay. I also think the G3 feels better in hand naked or with Diztronics case than N5. N6 will have to be even that much better for me to leave G3. Cheers!
Sent from my amazing LGG3!

Thanks that was exactly what I was wondering. I just have to decide whether I want to wait and see what the nexus 6 looks like or not.

wideasleep1 said:
I ran Purity and ART on N5 and then L Preview which of course is uber smooth..but after fiddling with debloating and various optimisations I can say unreservedly the G3 is a fine upgrade over the N5. Better battery, screen and camera top off a truly flagship product even with LGs overlay. I also think the G3 feels better in hand naked or with Diztronics case than N5. N6 will have to be even that much better for me to leave G3. Cheers!
Sent from my amazing LGG3!
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What debloating and optimizations did you make? If you want to PM instead of this forum, that's fine. I am really curious what all you did. Thanks

kingston73 said:
I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?
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You are just talking about using xposed Tweakbox with the G3?

Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.

Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.

I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...

Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light

I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix

I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.

I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.

I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.

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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...