has anyone read THIS?
HTC Phones to get Android 4.4 Update
The HTC One Max is to be announced very soon, and that should be anyways getting the update after the launch, but the devices which are expected to get the Android 4.4 KitKat update after its launch, includes HTC One.
- HTC One
- HTC One X+
- HTC One X
- New Desire series phones launched in 2013
- HTC Droid DNA
- HTC J
- HTC Butterfly
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can be something true?
I'll believe it when I see it. Can't imagine it happening though as I thought I saw the other day that the one x wasn't getting 4.3
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no one knows but someone from HTC said or better asked "who said we will drop support for hox?" maybe we will get only 4.3 but that would be even enough and if 4.4 htc is best...because the customers service and support etc is getting better and repair service...got nearly new hox without paying anything...only delivering...lol
Read on twitter a post by the liabrjfjjf whatever his nick is (a known source) that htc jewel will get 4.3 android in the future. So it is possible that we might too. I doubt about 4.4 though.
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I think and i can imagine, that it can be the most probable, that if htc update the hox, they are going to update to 4.4 because 4.3 is a minimalistic update from 4.2.2 so it can be a lost of time, so if we can expect a update it is going to be 4.4, that is what all the phone companies are doing, they are updating their phones to android 4.4 and they jump the minimal update of 4.3, anyways we have to wait!
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if htc wan to compete with samsung...htc better give hox 4.4 update as galaxy s3 also getting 4.4...
Jeff Gordon from HTC said "Who told you we are dropping support for the One X ?" on twitter. Ok I have 2 possible theories why we *may* get 4.4
1. Because of the whole 4.2.2 and 4.3 mess.
See, unlike us, a majority of newer devices such as the One, One Dev Edition, Butterlfy, Droid DNA and Butterfly S did not receive 4.2.2. During that time, 4.3 was just announced and HTC opted to jump straight to 4.3 for those devices. Now, this was fine since if you look at their changelogs, 90% of the 4.3 update for them was what we got in 4.2.2. Fair enough. They were finally receiving the things we got. Now, the reason why they didn't update our phones to 4.3 was because I believe the amount of improvements were too little. So they just skipped it since 4.4 was on the way. What they may do now is jump 4.3 and go to 4.4 for us since it's pointless to give us 4.3 now. This is all due to the system requirements being halved and probably because of the One X+
2. Now, like I've said before, if they were to drop the One X at this point, it'd be understandable since it's more than 18 months now. However, the One X+ isn't. They have no real reason to drop it. Now, if they were to support the One X+ but not the One X, it would look REALLY bad because both devices are identical, just a minor bump in front camera specs, internal memory and a newer type of T3, all of which do not influence the ability to run 4.4. Plus, the Nexus 7 2012 like I have still has SoC support from nVidia, so they can't pull a fast one by saying they have no SoC support. They do.
Remember, this is my theory. It's based on my own reasoning and what I've managed to make out of the whole situation. Take it with a pinch of salt, knowing that our devices have seen 3 major Android versions and that is on par with or even better than Nexus devices. Don't see what I mean ? The Nexus One started with 2.2, updated to and died at 2.3. The Nexus S started with 2.3, updated to 4.0 and died at 4.1. The Galaxy Nexus started with 4.0, updated to 4.1 and 4.2.2 and finally died at 4.3. See ? Excluding the Gnex, we are on par and have even surpassed the Nexus line. So I am happy. Guess what I'm trying to say is, there may be hope but at the same time don't get over excited. As for the tweet by Football, it may have been just his own speculation, since we all figured this phone died at 4.2.2. At the time, he didn't even see the features for 4.4 and he probably didn't know about the rush HTC was making to get 4.4 out onto the One within 90 days.
@RohinZaraki...agree with your statement...since nvidia still supporting 2012 nexus 7...htc can get the sources too....so hox & hox+ should get android 4.4 update too...one x+ just 1 yr old phone...
If I should have to add a 3rd reason why that news article seems sorta legit to me, I'd say because the list of devices there seem reasonable. Look at the HTC section itself. All high end devices with respectable specs. Same can be said about Samsung and Sony. I'm not too sure about the hierarchy of LG devices but they seem reasonable to me too. I remember the Sense 5 4.2.2 update was a little hard to swallow for us since the One S was also listed, but this seems like a more reasonable list. Hopefully they are right.
Is look like imaginary post
The writer did not provides any official state from HTC or event quote form reliable source.
On the contrary: The only know source that we know as football said that HTC ONE X will not get any update
liran82 said:
The writer did not provides any official state from HTC or event quote form reliable source.
On the contrary: The only know source that we know as football said that HTC ONE X will not get any update
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Well, he also didn't provided ANY HTC's official state, so...
nikola016 said:
Well, he also didn't provided ANY HTC's official state, so...
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... so it is a unreliable news for now
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... so it is a unreliable news for now
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Exactly what i meaned.
Read my blog, htc desire hd is getting kitkat update...
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I'll believe it once HTC officially confirms it. Regardless it's no big deal for me, plenty of of roms to choose from and many more to come
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Arent HTC droid dna and butterfly the same phone?
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Arent HTC droid dna and butterfly the same phone?
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droid dna is just for usa verizon or so i think and butterfly for the other part of the world
If Samsung update the GS3 to 4.4 then HTC are going to put a nail in their coffin if they don't update the HOX.
Pity there is no easy way to get S-Off as that would make updates irrelevant to me then. (unlocked boot loader is lame in comparison)
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If Samsung update the GS3 to 4.4 then HTC are going to put a nail in their coffin if they don't update the HOX.
Pity there is no easy way to get S-Off as that would make updates irrelevant to me then. (unlocked boot loader is lame in comparison)
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Maybe we should try with petition,just in case
The article is just speculation.
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On the contrary: The only know source that we know as football said that HTC ONE X will not get any update
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From the information football (they changed their name? Llabtoofer?) has provided in the past, I think they're a safe bet
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Hi All,
Due to upgrade at the end of the month,I was looking at either the HTC One X or the Galaxy S3.
Can't decide on which, any recommendations on these or other phones?
Martin
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I personally would go with the Samsung, for the simple fact I need an SD card and would like to be able to pull the battery out when things go wrong instead of having to walk upstairs to connect it to my pc and adb reboot it.
I had a quick play with them both today at the phone shop in town and they are both amazingly fast, I know the HTC screen is better but I couldn't tell the difference between them, as for processors and gpu's I believe they are both equally matched at what they do, I've seen benchmarks that put each on top so really in my eyes its down to personal preferance. Ask in a shop if you can have a little play with them before you decide which you want.
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I disagree had a week with the samsung galaxy s3 and too be frank hated it the touch wiz is annoying and unhelpful and the design was cheap. The home button was also a big pain because it was sometimes unresponsive and didn't spring back as well as i had hoped.
I recently just changed to a htc one x, and undoubtably the best choice i have ever made, regarding a smartphone, the new sense is clean an intuitive and thanks to the super fast processor its just incredible. But one of my favourite things is the support for the rooting community so you will have zero trouble if your looking to install a custom rom of some sort or over clocking or what ever.
Plus samsung never update their phones so you will be stuck on ics forever.
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Plus samsung never update their phones so you will be stuck on ics forever.
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Come off it, this is xda.........
The s3 will go far beyond ics wether there's an official update or not. They said we couldn't get gb on a wildfire and look at us now!
And from what I've been reading dev support for the s3 is also on the rise, in fact they have one of the best giving them full support.
Also you don't have to use tw just the same as you don't have to use sense if you don't like it.
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Plus samsung never update their phones so you will be stuck on ics forever.
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I'd say that the S2 got the update to ICS relatively quick, compared to other OEMs.
It won't make it past ics with official updates, people will have to use custom roms. also the the s 2 didnt get it very quickly ics was announced and released in october - November time and the s2 got updated in march i think. ( at least on my carrier )
Do you need an sd card slot with 32 gigs of space
Still rather go for the one x its fast, easy to root ( if on this forum its important to you) , lots of roms are available and its a phone that will easily last a two year contact with its great build.
Go with HOX on this one man
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It won't make it past ics with official updates, people will have to use custom roms. also the the s 2 didnt get it very quickly ics was announced and released in october - November time and the s2 got updated in march i think. ( at least on my carrier )
Do you need an sd card slot with 32 gigs of space
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Yes I do need an SD card with as much space as I can get, quite often my 16gb SD card is full and needs cleaning up, I have a limited data plan so the extra space (23gb) that you get from dropbox is still not feasible.
So Samsung don't do updates yet the s2 has an official ics update and I reckon there's more to come for it and others too.
Reading this makes me think that HTC haven't exactly been quick off the mark with it.
"The target timeline for announced devices is below. Because of partner and network testing, and approval processes for device updates, it can take up to 45 days for all carriers and countries to get the update after a rollout has begun.Device Schedule
DROID Incredible 2 by HTC To be determined (by the end of August)
HTC Amaze 4G May-June
HTC Desire S June-July
HTC Desire HD July-August
HTC EVO 3D June-July
HTC EVO 4G+ May-June
HTC EVO Design 4G June-July
HTC Incredible S June-July
HTC Sensation March-June
HTC Sensation 4G March-June
HTC Sensation XE March-June
HTC Sensation XL April-Jun
HTC Rezound June-July
HTC Rhyme June-July
HTC Thunderbolt July-August
HTC Velocity 4G March-June
HTC Vivid March-June"
Source http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-ics-update-schedule-released/
"I don't look for trouble it just kind of follows me around"
Ok, fine, you win. just saying in my opinion go for the HOX its good.
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Just pre-ordered an HTC One X + from AT&T today. Comes with JB 4.1 I believe. Coming from iPhone (jailbroken of course.) I see there was also a recent announcement, something about 4.2 being released by Google to VOSD. Read some of the improvements in 4.2 and would love to have them. But frankly, I don't want to spend hours futzing with my phone or risk bricking it. On the other hand, I don't want to wait 6 months for HTC to release a 4.2 update.
Without any prior experience can someone throw me a bone. Will there be a 4.2 ROM here I can download that will be stable and how long do you estimate before it is available versus waiting for HTC?
I've heard good things about Sense, but if I consider myself to now be a lifelong Android user, isn't it better to get used to using a vanilla version of the OS instead of using some manufacturer-specific overlay like Sense? So should I install a custom ROM no matter what from that perspective or will I loose to many conveniences/features specific to the phone?
Finally, will I be able to go back to stock HTC ROM (whatever is the most recent version) for warranty/resale purposes if I don't wait for the HTC upgrades?
You might want to ask the One X+ forum.
You'll be waiting a long time on a 4.2 Sense rom from HTC. If you want instant updates straight from Google you should get the LG Nexus 4.
The One X+ has it's own forum btw.
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You'll be waiting a long time on a 4.2 Sense rom from HTC. If you want instant updates straight from Google you should get the LG Nexus 4.
The One X+ has it's own forum btw.
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Oops, sorry, I'll take this to the One X+ forum. My question really was more about updates in general. I'm aware the Nexus gets the updates first, one of the reasons the Nexus 4 sold out in less than an hour today or something? I wasn't about to buy a new phone that wasn't LTE though. Was a close second to the HTC. At least I have JB 4.1 instead of ICS 4.0 to start with. I'm not THAT impatient.
I really like the look of Sense 5 and I would definitely love to try it out, but I don't know if it would be possible to port it over to the international One X since it has entirely different interiors. What do you guys think?
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I really like the look of Sense 5 and I would definitely love to try it out, but I don't know if it would be possible to port it over to the international One X since it has entirely different interiors. What do you guys think?
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it will be ported unofficially, this is sure... but we don't know if HTC will give us an official update with sense 5
ViktorN said:
I really like the look of Sense 5 and I would definitely love to try it out, but I don't know if it would be possible to port it over to the international One X since it has entirely different interiors. What do you guys think?
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I think we'll be able to port some apps from it and the looks but not entierly , it has too many framework changes all over the system , would be too hard , but you never know with XDA Devs , anything is possible
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it will be ported unofficially, this is sure... but we don't know if HTC will give us an official update with sense 5
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I'd like to think we'll be getting it 99% officially , hox is barly a year old now and it's last year flagship, if they don't upgrade hox that means also hox + will be forgoten on the way as well and hox + is barly few months old, i don't think HTC wants to deal with bunch of angry hox and hox+ users.
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I'd like to think we'll be getting it 99% officially , hox is barly a year old now and it's last year flagship, if they don't upgrade hox that means also hox + will be forgoten on the way as well and hox + is barly few months old, i don't think HTC wants to deal with bunch of angry hox and hox+ users.
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The same thing happened to the htc sensation and the dhd... The same thing will happen to the hox...
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Considering HTC refuses to acknowledge things like the green tint issue that some users are experiencing when they updated to jellybean, ignore GPL by not releasing sources, releasing updates for their phones literally years too late (like the amaze receiving ICS like a year late) I think it's safe to assume that they'll either ignore the One X completely or release it a few years from now.
Either way, I'm pretty sure this is the last HTC phone I ever buy.
reliable only on XDA not on HTC
when we have great team of developers here on xda why we need official one???but in terms of releasing updates we all know HTC.....
Well, my questions wasn't about the official update, I asked if you guys think that the devs will be able to port it fully. Not just skins and tiny segments of Sense 5, I'm talking the full interface.
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yeah im also looking forward to experience sense 5 on my one x. it is said that it is lighter than sense 4+.
i hope it comes real soon.
Since the HTC One has the exact same screen resolution and we have 3.1 kernel, i'm sure we should get full sense 5.
The only limitations are the HTC One's hardware specific features.
Team Venom Epic-Sauce + Sense 5....
You tell me how awesome that is going to be
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Since the HTC One has the exact same screen resolution and we have 3.1 kernel, i'm sure we should get full sense 5.
The only limitations are the HTC One's hardware specific features.
Team Venom Epic-Sauce + Sense 5....
You tell me how awesome that is going to be
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The HTC One doesn't have the same screen resolution... It has 1080p and we have 720p. It just has the same screen size (4.7 inch) which is practically irrelevant when porting.
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no doubt they would release sense 5 for one x, and maybe for one x too
hi folks,
the german tech site techstage.de was able to ask htc directly on the london release party.
they said that there will be definetly an update for the devices one x, one s and one x+.
they also mentioned that this update wont got all the features he htc one got, but i think this will be mainly the new htc-tv feature that allows u to use ur device as a remote (because we dont got an infrared sensor).
we'll see...
http://www.techstage.de/news/HTC-Sen...s-1806391.html
So guys finally its official:
HTC OneX and OneX + will not receive any further updates.
Its officially announced by HTC now.
"We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences. -HTC"
Update: the only HTC One X variant that will be updated to Android 4.3 is the HTC EVO 4G LTE on Sprint.
Further Reading:
http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/htc-one-x-and-x-wont-receive-updates-beyond-android-4-2-2/
Share your thoughts on this freely..
http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/01/13/htc-one-x-updates
The guys at pocketnow mentioned it too. Kinda sad but I don't care that much as I would use CM11 instead of the Sense KitKat anyways.
But this just confirmed what I expected and so this will definitely be my last HTC device. Too bad I liked the build quality.
Nexus 5 here I come <3
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Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²
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f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²
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Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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and313 said:
Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it
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the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it
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If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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and313 said:
If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support
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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support
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Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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But i really think it has to do with nvidia tegra...
And the one already got nearly more and faster updates...the snapdragon is just good supported...but yea we will see
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Its a hard lesson learnt, only buy Qualcomm based chipset phones from now on. nVidia gives fancy names to their chipsets, however they are pathetic when it comes to supporting their chipset.
I think it has to do with HTC also.. Dont blame just nvidia. if HTC wanted they could have updated the phone as fas as i know. Thomy's ROM is working fine on hox and so does slimkat. Why don't HTC discuss it out with nvidia and both could have worked hard to give an update.
But see they both (HTC and nvidia) dont give support to old devices and try to work hard on throwing new devices every then and now. If they would have worked that hard (or even less than that) on giving support to hox, it might be a good decision..
Hox is a solid performing device which HTC d#tched early..
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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.
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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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and313 said:
The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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Yeah, htc is just shifting it's focus from one device to another...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
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They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.
I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.
The thing is that old versions of Android also mean more security concerns and possible app compatability issues in the future. Things like this are a concern for the average user and not so much us who know how to tinker with custom roms.
And my friends who have Android phones and who I'd call average users complain about lack of upgrades just as much as me. They still want their phones to have the newest features, up to date looks and all that. HTC being so horrible with updates means that people recognize then as a company with lack of support. And people don't pay hundreds of dollars/euros for just more than one years worth of support.
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I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.
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It's not like that. You don't see Samsung or Motorola not updating their old devices just because 90% of the users don't complain.
Samsung is going to update S3 to kitkat. and motorola has already confirmed that old devices are receiving kitkat. those devices don't even have large user base like that of HOX.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.
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Let's wait and see what happens to the One after its successor in announced.
Now that HTC have confirmed they are not providing any further OS updates for the One X and the One X+, I started a thread in the One X+ forum with a survey monkey link to give us all the chance to tell HTC what we think of their decision. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey. The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49619827
Many users are frustrated that HTC don't listen to their customers so I compiled the survey to give us all the opportunity to express our collected opinion. Carpe diem!
Yeah, really bad move from HTC! :/
yeah, you pay good money for a device with good spec and you expect, because of the spec you would get more updates other than just JB, poor move HTC
It's not that I'm disappointed by the amount of updates, it's more that the updates HTC gave us constantly broke things. One of the first Updates added a new bootloader which broke the compactiblity of CM10, the update to 3.20.XXX.3 added a new touch driver which broke compactiblity to touch in recovery (at least if you still want to be able to use mass storage/adb) and the 4.2.2 update broke our wifi in october and htc still didn't bother to deliver a fix after almost half a year! I would have prefered when they had just made a single update from 4.0 to 4.2 and even keeped sense 4 as long as they had delived a fully working rom.
An other problem of htc are their kernel source releases: they always wait till the end of the 90-days-period after the rom-update before they release it, even though they definitly had it since the release of the rom update. Take an example at samsung: they haven't updated the note 3 to 4.4yet but the kernel source is already there!
I will never, ever again buy another HTC or Tegra phone.
Vote with your wallet, and don't buy HTC again. I certainly won't.
I think all phone manufacturers should keep phones updated for 2 years minimum as that is how long most phone contracts are for.
In the EU they are already covered by a 2 year warranty, i would expect the update issue to be forced in this region for the same reason.
Here is hoping any way
It is funny that for example LG will upgrade some low end devices to 4.4,a HTC wont upgrade One X and One X+ and they still have decent hardware and very nice display...shame on you HTC
I made my views pretty clear. HTC won't listen, if they do, it'll be a half ar**d support like the desire, desire HD...etc etc. Next time i'm just getting a google nexus phone outright and a 30 day rolling contract. Bye Bye HTC, hope you either learn or sink
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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Rotten Ross said:
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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What are the features on Kitkat that we don't have on 4.2.2 Sense 5 ?
I had the Frustration of updates when i was on desire z 2.2 and the upgrade to 2.3 (download manager and the toggle buttons) was extremely late in my country
but since hox started 4.1 i have not found Google adding any thing revolutionary that make a lot of difference to the device experience
I have been using HTC because of the build and the design of devices, only thing i hate about how htc handled hox is the brokern wifi on the current build, it has been disappointing
Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
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Yep waste of space thread, if you want kit kat flash one of the 2 variants posted in this section.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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Why do you look for a side to put a blame on? You're still using the word "support" for upgrading a sofware to an upper version, but let stay in terms, if we're looking for "ethical", this does NOT mean support. I can get many things as your opinion, but this is NOT. HTC does still support One X, it is not upgrading the software to another major version, that is it. Don't wanna look annoying but I am a software and management consultant and make lots of Support and Maintenance agreements, what you want is not support.
Well, you want an ethical solution.. In Turkey One X was still sold I think ended about 4-5 months ago, and with 3 year contracts. It is also sold for a long time, may be not in Western countries or in Oceania, but deciding just for those countries is not legal right? So, how long the upgrade process should last then? till 2016? 2017? This has no ethical solution. You used the key word, most. This is the best way to measure the economic point of view Would you like to make a market analysis to find out when the One X is sold most? Would you choose a specific month of a year? This is a dead-end bro, believe me.
Again, don't wanna look annoying, but then get a crapsung, you do know they do update their phones further, that is clear from Sensation/S2.
This is how HTC makes their market strategy and you might say that it is clear that ther strategy is not working, but most of experts beliece upgrades are not the main reason for this.
Anyways, I don't wanna "troll" in the topic where people write their opinions, just wanted to share mine.
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But then are we looking for an ethical solution, if we choose the start point as global release? I may have bought my phone as soon as it is released in my country and it could have been December 2012, and I might have gotten it with a three year contract. Who has the blame for my situation then? And the two is years is something just we made up since "most" of the users get the phone in two-year contracts and the warranty is for two years.
One last update.. But we still haven't reached May 2014, and till then Google might release a 4.5? Wouldn't we want it then?
Cheers
The only way we can change things regarding updates is to try to evoke a law where the minimal update timeframe is set
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Well that´s another Problem with all the phone brands who build Android phones.
The updates take much too long to get released for the phones.
If I would follow your logic we still should get Android Kit Kat since it was released in November. A better example would be 4.3 which was released for Nexus phones 2 months before 4.2 was released for HOX(+).
It effectively means we got 2 big Android revisions (4.1 + 4.2) which means 1 year of support but it was only stretched from April 2012 (official release) to July/August 2013 (last update)
And just for your interest. It doesn´t matter how long the carrier contracts run or when it was released in YOUR country. It´s about unbranded devices which are officially released. Carrier branded phones shouldn´t be bought anymore and/or the consumer shouldn´t choose them anymore to make clear that the way carriers are working isn´t consumer friendly but that´s a whole different point