As we can see, Many manufacturers like Samsung, HTC have already updated their flagship with 4.3 which is we are yet to receive. HTC already announced 4.4 will be available in 90 days that's by Jan end. Can we expect it any sooner
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As we can see, Many manufacturers like Samsung, HTC have already updated their flagship with 4.3 which is we are yet to receive. HTC already announced 4.4 will be available in 90 days that's by Jan end. Can we expect it any sooner
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4.4? Hardly likely. There'll be a 4.3, I'm sure, but I don't believe there's going to be a 4.4. The Z1 and, possibly, the Z Ultra, being the latest flagships, I feel, would be the only candidates for it.
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4.4? Hardly likely. There'll be a 4.3, I'm sure, but I don't believe there's going to be a 4.4. The Z1 and, possibly, the Z Ultra, being the latest flagships, I feel, would be the only candidates for it.
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From 4.2 to 4.3 officially there is no difference except for smoothness, and richer use gpu. As far as 4.4, wise battery usage, full screen mode in apps, richer gpu, better integration of hangout, well memory management. I don think Sony would give up on their phones in just 8 months.
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Sony said xperia z1,z ultra and z will get 4.4. If xperia z can have it , zl should get it.
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Sony said xperia z1,z ultra and z will get 4.4. If xperia z can have it , zl should get it.
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All z series will get it, if that's the case.. We have noticed many times that zl gets updates before z
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coolrevi said:
As we can see, Many manufacturers like Samsung, HTC have already updated their flagship with 4.3 which is we are yet to receive. HTC already announced 4.4 will be available in 90 days that's by Jan end. Can we expect it any sooner
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Hi.
This may help people understand why the updates take so long:
www.developer.sonymobile.com/2013/0...-process-and-its-improvements-for-android-4-3
Btw, does the ZL still gets warm easily, like from 23°C to 44° C (73 F / 111 F), while playing games (NFS MW, or other "heavy tasks") on 4.2.2? (Mine is running 4.1.2)
It's quite annoying :/ I've heard the Media Server battery leak has been corrected, at least. Heard nothing about the warming problem.
I'm quite sure 4.4 will be available for the Z series. Isn't it supposed to be optimized to support even 512MB RAM devices?
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Sw33t_Lov3r said:
Hi.
This may help people understand why the updates take so long:
www.developer.sonymobile.com/2013/0...-process-and-its-improvements-for-android-4-3
Btw, does the ZL still gets warm easily, like from 23°C to 44° C (73 F / 111 F), while playing games (NFS MW, or other "heavy tasks") on 4.2.2? (Mine is running 4.1.2)
It's quite annoying :/ I've heard the Media Server battery leak has been corrected, at least. Heard nothing about the warming problem.
I'm quite sure 4.4 will be available for the Z series. Isn't it supposed to be optimized to support even 512MB RAM devices?
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Yea I quite aware of the process dude. Yea phone really gets hot.. As we can see recently Xperia l treated with 4.2.2 with some advanced features I'm quite sure that zl will get update. The topic is about how far Sony can do it. Past experience update will be received but with bugs. We can see that with Xperia s and t
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coolrevi said:
Yea I quite aware of the process dude. Yea phone really gets hot.. As we can see recently Xperia l treated with 4.2.2 with some advanced features I'm quite sure that zl will get update. The topic is about how far Sony can do it. Past experience update will be received but with bugs. We can see that with Xperia s and t
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Thanks for your reply. Can you specify if your ZL really getting hot is on 4.2.2? Have you tried any 4.3 based ROM?
Is there any? I'm about to update from 4.1.2 and I'm wondering if this warming issue is still there :/
Seems like the waiting is too long for some. Ha.
4.4 will be here for the ZL as Sony wants to get its goal to be the third biggest smartphone maker, if it wants it,
it needs to support its devices.
But, can we just have a bug-free Jelly Bean mean while? Dang. Any custom 4.2.2 ROM?
The new features of Kit Kat are really appealing, several of them, actually n.n
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
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Sw33t_Lov3r said:
Thanks for your reply. Can you specify if your ZL really getting hot is on 4.2.2? Have you tried any 4.3 based ROM?
Is there any? I'm about to update from 4.1.2 and I'm wondering if this warming issue is still there :/
Seems like the waiting is too long for some. Ha.
4.4 will be here for the ZL as Sony wants to get its goal to be the third biggest smartphone maker, if it wants it,
it needs to support its devices.
But, can we just have a bug-free Jelly Bean mean while? Dang. Any custom 4.2.2 ROM?
The new features of Kit Kat are really appealing, several of them, actually n.n
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
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4.2.2 stock rom is not bad except that heating issue. Update is really improved performance. and for 4.3 you can try cm Rom for which you have to unlock bootloader. So I have not tried any. As per recent tweets 4.3 and 4.4 news will out this week. I don see any problem updating to 4.2.2. If you don't like it you can flash back previous Rom.
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4.2.2 stock rom is not bad except that heating issue. Update is really improved performance. and for 4.3 you can try cm Rom for which you have to unlock bootloader. So I have not tried any. As per recent tweets 4.3 and 4.4 news will out this week. I don see any problem updating to 4.2.2. If you don't like it you can flash back previous Rom.
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Thanks! I'll update to 4.2.2 in some hours... It's 4:15 AM here in Peru n.n How bad the heating issue is still present.
I may try a 4.3 ROM so I can see if it's fixed :/ It's possible to relock the bootloader. Don't want to try?
Yeah, some more days and well have news about 4.3 and 4.4. I hope Sony gives us dates for the oficial 4.3 updates and
positive news for us about 4.4. I've never been the updates fan, my Xperia Pro never got to ICS... It's running so nicely with GB til now.
But 4.4 does have several interesting improvements. Maybe I can update it to 4.4!
Does anyone know what does it take for a device to be suitable for 4.4 update?
As there has been words about 4.4 for older devices.
Maybe it's too son to ask n.n
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4.2.2 stock rom is not bad except that heating issue. Update is really improved performance. and for 4.3 you can try cm Rom for which you have to unlock bootloader. So I have not tried any. As per recent tweets 4.3 and 4.4 news will out this week. I don see any problem updating to 4.2.2. If you don't like it you can flash back previous Rom.
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What heat issue? 44c is pretty normal...
You're running a game on 1920x1080 without any active cooling in a closed device.
Heck the next gen consoles can't even run 1920x1080 on their platform.
DoubleYouPee said:
What heat issue? 44c is pretty normal...
You're running a game on 1920x1080 without any active cooling in a closed device.
Heck the next gen consoles can't even run 1920x1080 on their platform.
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With all due respect I didn't have that problem in 244 that's the reason why I mentioned about it.
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What heat issue? 44c is pretty normal...
You're running a game on 1920x1080 without any active cooling in a closed device.
Heck the next gen consoles can't even run 1920x1080 on their platform.
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It's an issue because not ALL (not even many) other smartphones like this one (full HD, no active cooling) have this heating problem.
Does the Galaxy S4 heats like this? Does the Xperia Z1, maybe?
I know the processor and GPU are working and are making use of energy thus some heat is normal,
but that the device goes from iddle 23° C to 37 and 44° C after not 20 minutes of playing is definitely an issue.
It even gets warm when browsing (Dolphin). This is annoying. Other than that, the device is excelent.
My Razr i only rarely used to get this hot! Actually, I can remember only 2 times when it got to 44° C
and I think it was because of a bug caused by Fuit Ninja, cause in 5 months of playing and using it dialy it never got hot
like the ZL on 4.1.2 and the latest 2.67 build. (As said coolrevi).
I used to use the Razr i proportionally the same as I use the ZL. So, no, it definitely something to look into. I hope official 4.3
and later 4.4 have this problem solved. Or, I don't know, maybe I have a defective unit!
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With all due respect I didn't have that problem in 244 that's the reason why I mentioned about it.
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Hey! So the build right before 244 didn't have this heating issue?
I think I can flash that one? Do you remeber which number was?
Thanks!
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Sw33t_Lov3r said:
It's an issue because not ALL (not even many) other smartphones like this one (full HD, no active cooling) have this heating problem.
Hey! So the build right before 244 didn't have this heating issue?
I think I can flash that one? Do you remeber which number was?
Thanks!
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I would just suggest you to flash the latest one. .67 coz many people have told that it has solved many bugs including heating issue (except me)
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I would just suggest you to flash the latest one. .67 coz many people have told that it has solved many bugs including heating issue (except me)
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Thanks for your reply!
Although I'm more a fan of stock/official ROMs, I'm about to flash this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228436
[ROM][ZL][JB 4.2.2][PA3.60][AOKP-MR1][CM10.1]P.A.C True All in 1 ROM
You must know it. It combines cm10.1, AOKP and AOSPA.
I'm going to try it as I read it's stable and good enough!
Originally Posted by murcielargo on 6th August 2013
Hello guys .. just wanted to ask if this rom is stable and can be used in a daily basis without any problems and does
the camera button and ir remote control work ?... and also does this rom support apps to sd ?.. i really like pacman rom
used to have it on my old hd2 so i wanted to flash it on my xperia zl... since the stock rom dosnt let me transfer
apps to sd and my internal memory is full and my phone is kinda unresponsive and that is the main reason i want to flash
a custom rom and my first choice is pacman.. so if any one could answer these questiosn it would be a real big help... thanx in advance
Reply: Been using this as my daily driver since the day I bought my phone. Works exactly as you would expect.
IR doesn't work on any custom rom so far and you'd have to use something like titanium backup to move apps to SD.
The camera button works just fine. All in all flash with confidence.
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It looks interesting too. Had you seen that ROM?
After that if I don't like it I'm going to get the latest official ROM n.n
Thanks for your help! I hope it doesn't turn out we have defective units! Ha
4.4 version will be interesting too, as I'm quite sure Sony will release it for us ZL users.
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Ofcourse Sony will release it for all Z series.
And 1 more think if.sony could possibly integrate is ability to move the app to SD.??
Because sammy s3 got it in 4.3
Atleast sony could in 4.4...??
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I just saw a 4.4 aosp port for the xperia z, is there a chance we can have it, can anybody port it for the zl.
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Sony has now announced what devices will ger 4.4 kitkat
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
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unmaskedfalesh said:
Ofcourse Sony will release it for all Z series.
And 1 more think if.sony could possibly integrate is ability to move the app to SD.??
Because sammy s3 got it in 4.3
Atleast sony could in 4.4...??
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Have you tried DIRECTORY BIND in your ZL?
I don't have an SD card in the moment so I can't test, anyone
knows if Directory Bind works for the ZL in 4.1 or 4.2? Mine is running stock 4.2.
Let's go to the Sony Twitter acc and news room to ask for this feature in 4.3 and 4.4!
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Pd: Looks like battery is draining in no more than 10 hours of moderate to constant
usage, no gaming, all staminas on and screen brightness at 15%.
Is this normal for 4.2 in the ZL or should I perform a factory reset
cause I didn't do it when I flashed stock 4.2 on my carrier's 4.1... Sorry for the of topic. I'm on the go!
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I really hope not. How long do you think they will keep it updated ?
Galaxy S2 has went from Gingerbread through ICS and now it's getting Jelly Bean. Since Xperia S is starting from ICS, does it mean it will be getting new android after Jelly Bean?
XS is starting from GB,but it was an outdated launch anyway.Sony agreed to support phones(at least flagships) for 18 months of release or with 2 major updates.So somewhere in august it ends for the S.BUT,the Xperia SL is released in September,and it is exactly the same phone(just a little higher CPU clock speed).And it started with ICS,which means it should get at least JB 4.2(though that's not exactly a major update over 4.1).So if the SL gets it,the S should too,even Sony-style excuse for not doing it will sound just stupid.
well if sony stop XS on Jellybean (hope not), we still have CM rom .
G.Trenchev said:
XS is starting from GB,but it was an outdated launch anyway.Sony agreed to support phones(at least flagships) for 18 months of release or with 2 major updates.So somewhere in august it ends for the S.BUT,the Xperia SL is released in September,and it is exactly the same phone(just a little higher CPU clock speed).And it started with ICS,which means it should get at least JB 4.2(though that's not exactly a major update over 4.1).So if the SL gets it,the S should too,even Sony-style excuse for not doing it will sound just stupid.
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SL will stop at August also. Look at Arc S. Got the same fate as Arc...
And I'm pretty sure we won't have beyond 4.1 by Sony, considering Qualcomm didn't gave the sources for 4.2 for our S3 processors (which isn't exactly their fault, as they are a bit outdated. ) T (and variations) and V are the only ones that should have official 4.2 or luckily 5.0, if Qualcomm cooperates.
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I don't think anyone will ever have Jellybean on an XS
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When Sony relese 4.2 we'll all have Xperia Z14 ( relesed 2024 )
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i dont think so maybe earlier. 2023 . preferably 1Q..
Felimenta97 said:
SL will stop at August also. Look at Arc S. Got the same fate as Arc...
And I'm pretty sure we won't have beyond 4.1 by Sony, considering Qualcomm didn't gave the sources for 4.2 for our S3 processors (which isn't exactly their fault, as they are a bit outdated. ) T (and variations) and V are the only ones that should have official 4.2 or luckily 5.0, if Qualcomm cooperates.
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I feel SO bad for that :/
Sony's Timescape UI is AND WILL ALWAYS BE the best and I want to experience it with the latest possible android version... Just... PLEASE Sony AT LEAST udpate our 2012 phones with snapdragon S3 chipsets up to Android 5.0... AT LEAST 5.0.... Samsung did a good job with their S II for keeping it updated but damn TouchWiz UI sucks ****. But yeah speaking of Qualcomm not updating their sources/drivers for our devices... I guess it's impossible. Hopefully devs can do that! Wish the best for them
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wow, well that sucks ass!
i just got this phone in december. and now i feel like i bought a phone from 2010, not 2012. 5.0 android would be the time to stop, not now. please sony keep it updated!
torimatorima said:
wow, well that sucks ass!
i just got this phone in december. and now i feel like i bought a phone from 2010, not 2012. 5.0 android would be the time to stop, not now. please sony keep it updated!
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That's why we have xda .
Custom rom's are fast, stabile and we already have 4.2 - ok, it's not for daily use but I'am sure it'll be soon.
So, when Sony relese official JB and dev from xda get new drivers and other stuff they need - we'll get stabile 4.2.
The other day I installed official ICS ( I'am on JB for a few month's) - it didn't last long , I just don't like it anymore.
So...long live XS and xda
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funky0308 said:
That's why we have xda .
Custom rom's are fast, stabile and we already have 4.2 - ok, it's not for daily use but I'am sure it'll be soon.
So, when Sony relese official JB and dev from xda get new drivers and other stuff they need - we'll get stabile 4.2.
The other day I installed official ICS ( I'am on JB for a few month's) - it didn't last long , I just don't like it anymore.
So...long live XS and xda
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The problem is that devs can't do much without sources, thing that Qualcomm isn't giving us.
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The problem is that devs can't do much without sources, thing that Qualcomm isn't giving us.
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Agree... Android 5 or something like that?! Probably is't possible on XS, but we'll get better JB 4.2 ( custom ) when official JB 4.1 from Sony comes out.
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funky0308 said:
Agree... Android 5 or something like that?! Probably is't possible on XS, but we'll get better JB 4.2 ( custom ) when official JB 4.1 from Sony comes out.
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What we (XS users) and other Snapdragon S3 phone users (such as HTC Sensation HD) can do is sign a petition asking for sources and drivers for Android 5.0 (or 4.3) for our processors.
At the end of 2011, users signed a petition asking Qualcomm to release drivers and such for the ARMv6 (Snapdragon S1, for example) for ICS. It worked. That's why devices like the X10 Mini and Mini Pro, X8 and other companies devices have fully working ICS or even JB with camera.
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Felimenta97 said:
What we (XS users) and other Snapdragon S3 phone users (such as HTC Sensation HD) can do is sign a petition asking for sources and drivers for Android 5.0 (or 4.3) for our processors.
At the end of 2011, users signed a petition asking Qualcomm to release drivers and such for the ARMv6 (Snapdragon S1, for example) for ICS. It worked. That's why devices like the X10 Mini and Mini Pro, X8 and other companies devices have fully working ICS or even JB with camera.
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Well... Why not, we could try.
I don't know how to make on line petition but if someone start one - I'am in.
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Well... Why not, we could try.
I don't know how to make on line petition but if someone start one - I'am in.
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I think we should wait until 5.0 is announced and at least start rolling out to Nexus devices.
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I think we should wait until 5.0 is announced and at least start rolling out to Nexus devices.
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Agree...
You are dev? Right?
So you are the right person to start initiative...
O.K...great, glad to talk with you.
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funky0308 said:
Agree...
You are dev? Right?
So you are the right person to start initiative...
O.K...great, glad to talk with you.
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Actually, I'm not a dev (but if it goes right, should start doing something). I'm just a user, but yeah. I will see what we can do after Android 5.0 announcement
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Actually, I'm not a dev (but if it goes right, should start doing something). I'm just a user, but yeah. I will see what we can do after Android 5.0 announcement
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Together we are stronger .... most common sentence in the former Yugoslavia, but it's true.
Sony maybe have no interest bringing 5.0 to XS but we do...
I just love my XS.
When I first saw XS in the store I immediately fell in love with it.
Great design, great device... But I am aware that they will not update it forever so I hope dev on xda will
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ItBankRock said:
I feel SO bad for that :/
Sony's Timescape UI is AND WILL ALWAYS BE the best and I want to experience it with the latest possible android version... Just... PLEASE Sony AT LEAST udpate our 2012 phones with snapdragon S3 chipsets up to Android 5.0... AT LEAST 5.0.... Samsung did a good job with their S II for keeping it updated but damn TouchWiz UI sucks ****. But yeah speaking of Qualcomm not updating their sources/drivers for our devices... I guess it's impossible. Hopefully devs can do that! Wish the best for them
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Samsung makes their own chipsets so they don't have the same issues as others with sources. If Sony isn't able to update it beyond jelly bean then it is totally qualcomms fault for not putting out the resources necessary. Look at the Nexus 4 which isnt even AOSP because of qualcomms dumb ass. Their is something to be said about making your own hardware.
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Felimenta97 said:
What we (XS users) and other Snapdragon S3 phone users (such as HTC Sensation HD) can do is sign a petition asking for sources and drivers for Android 5.0 (or 4.3) for our processors.
At the end of 2011, users signed a petition asking Qualcomm to release drivers and such for the ARMv6 (Snapdragon S1, for example) for ICS. It worked. That's why devices like the X10 Mini and Mini Pro, X8 and other companies devices have fully working ICS or even JB with camera.
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Exactly its on qualcomm to deliver.
If Sony could only supply the dev community here with the drivers we would easily have the most updated Android phones.
What do you think are the chances are of Sony releasing jb 4.4 for our devices I mean our devices would be more than enough to handle it.
What do you guys think?
Would it still be possible even though Qualcomm has stopped support for S3 snapdragon chipsets?
None!
Simple as that...
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What do you think are the chances are of Sony releasing jb 4.4 for our devices I mean our devices would be more than enough to handle it.
What do you guys think?
Would it still be possible even though Qualcomm has stopped support for S3 snapdragon chipsets?
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i think the same,there are no chance of getting android 4.4 kitkat.at the most we may get 4.2 or 4.3 jelly bean but there are only 2% chances :fingers-crossed: lets hope for the best.but we may get the taste of android 4.4 by great xda developers with less feature that depend on any new type of hardware
That's the weird thing 4.2 & 4.3 are said to be more hardware intensive than 4.4 and it is most unlikely we will get them for our devices.
Yet a lot of websites mention its likely that 4.4 will hit the Xperia family including the S.
What is also been said is 4.4 will or has been designed to run on aged out devices from:
512 RAM
Single low clock speed processors
And our phones come in the mid range of the Xperia family.
Which exceed the suggested minimum basic specs nneeded.
I wish Sony could just say yes or no wether it was possible as I don't want to upgrade as its only been 6 months since I got this device it's ggood but I was surprised how quickly this was shunned and newer devices came out from Sony.
When I see Z1 released with 4.2.2, 4.4 for XS is just a dream.
Sony must sell Z1 as new flagship and it certainly won't update and support 2011/12 device anymore.
I would like that, of course but that won't happen.
I'm trying to find unlockable Z1 in Croatia - I really like that device.
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funky0308 said:
When I see Z1 released with 4.2.2, 4.4 for XS is just a dream.
Sony must sell Z1 as new flagship and it certainly won't update and support 2011/12 device anymore.
I would like that, of course but that won't happen.
I'm trying to find unlockable Z1 in Croatia - I really like that device.
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Off-topic:
Some reviews said the screen is really bad, maybe you should wait for the next flagship from Sony..
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Official noway
Cyanogenmod... maybe
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there's rumour about Z1 will get 4.4 in november
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_rumored_to_get_android_44_update_in_november-news-6942.php
if that's true then great, finally sony updates the device quickly
this is a good sign, cause I still want sony for my next device
but for XS... I don't think so
just hope with rayman in the CAF kernel.. but it will not come soon.. and you ask too early
Many website said for 4.4 is just false rumour
lordanas59 said:
Off-topic:
Some reviews said the screen is really bad, maybe you should wait for the next flagship from Sony..
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Hmm...
Screen isn't really bad it's great HD screen but some users reported that they have that stupid yellow tint over screen.
And that's extremely annoying from Sony.
I'll buy it but only and if I can check it first (I already arranged that).
There's great little piece of software for screen testing so I'll use that.
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yes yes. its just a dream. will not came
Well letama may make a 4.4 build for xperia s
And xperia s isnt slow, stock rom its self is heavy, roms like cm10 are rocket fast on xperia s
We may just get 4.4 if we ask letama or raymanFX kindly
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you will receive even 5.0 if came out.. But stability may be problem.
Anyway, i am on the way to upgrade to Z1.
I believe 4.4 will come some time later.
Some expert in XDA will make it. But Sony wont
remember snapdragon has stopped supporting s3 cpu that's why there's no kernel for jb 4.2 and 4.3
yeah experts in XDA are making it now but i dont think sony cares about it
Our lovely Xperia S is now an orphan. Only users care about it
The performance can definietly do 4.2 4.3 or 4.4, but sony just want us to buy new phones
I saw this in some site.. Can someone translate this.. I think we may get 4.4.. :silly:
Just look on the side of picture (Right) which phones will get it
edit: Sorry i missread.
Ignore this post.
happy
i see S and sl
unless it doesnt say thay
sudhindrakv said:
I saw this in some site.. Can someone translate this.. I think we may get 4.4.. :silly:
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It said "Can upgrade Kit Kat 4.4"..
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It said "Can upgrade Kit Kat 4.4"..
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So it wont...
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I hope that xs gets 4.4 otherwise im going to beat up 4.4 source code till it works on xs
Anyway i dont blame sony for wanting money
Currently sony mobile hates sony entertainment
They keep blowing their money
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By looking at this pic, you can say that 4.3 will be available in just few day:good:
Hope so, buddy.
thanks man,:good:
its about time for an update. i hope we get a stable build.
it is just the update to 8.0.anything right?
And then gotta wait for OTA update or new root method.... so make it + 2 weeks
Agree with "DoubleYouPee" reply..
first waiting for 4.3 update . then wait for root method
On theory, there should be a way to inject root into a modified update file...
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hijagdeep said:
Agree with "DoubleYouPee" reply..
first waiting for 4.3 update . then wait for root method
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If master key vulnerability 3 is not fixed in the update.. It's not hard to root
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lol i really dont care about root, I care much more for the update xD
Are u guys sure is 4.3 or 4.4?
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We aren't sure of anything...
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We aren't sure of anything...
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Agreed. My ZL is in for repair, oddly enough, but are we even sure that they don't mean TrackID is up to version 4.3? It's kinda worded that way in the app store screen-shot posted above.
I can't check, but seem to remember it hovering around v3.8 a few months back.
Sony's been ambiguous about their upgrade path lately. It used to run through 4.3, but now with 4.4 I'm not clear on the schedules...
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Agreed. My ZL is in for repair, oddly enough, but are we even sure that they don't mean TrackID is up to version 4.3? It's kinda worded that way in the app store screen-shot posted above.
I can't check, but seem to remember it hovering around v3.8 a few months back.
Sony's been ambiguous about their upgrade path lately. It used to run through 4.3, but now with 4.4 I'm not clear on the schedules...
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It could be a mistake out intentional leak regarding 4.3 as the same had been removed from play store. It's no more included in what's New part.
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It could be a mistake out intentional leak regarding 4.3 as the same had been removed from play store. It's no more included in what's New part.
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Could be someone had that pointed out to them... based on stuff I've seen in other forum's, I wouldn't be too surprised if the different manufacturer's had someone reading xda...
Fingers crossed for the sturdy update without any bugs....bitting my ZL...and no update for Walkman is a lame move...or maybe direct update...
is 4.3 out by seeing this pic???
http://sonyviet.vn/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/z_43_1.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48230776&postcount=635
ZL 4.3 Screenshots Leaked at BBS GFAN
Xperia ZL Android 4.3 Screenshots Leaked
Android 4.3 10.4.B.X.XXX firmware. Kernel Version is 3.4.0.
Same build 10.4.B.X.XXX firmware will come on Xperia Z, ZL, ZR and Tablet Z. White UI exactly same like Android 4.2.2 Xperia Z1. New Xperia Home Launcher version 6.1.A.0.5 is spotted.
via http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/12/07/xperia-zl-android-4-3-10-4-b-x-xxx-firmware-screenshots-leaked/
P.S. BUILD NOT RELEASED. LEAKED ONLY. ABOUT TO COME.
One benefit of having a non-carrier phone is that I don't have to wait for the carrier to make their mods as well...
One one company to wait for instead of more than one...
4.2 has been very stable in my ZL... Hope 4.3 is like that or much better
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.67 on my ZL was acting like weird , when i press the power to wake my phone, the screen only light but no image, so i go back to .244 and its perfect, even much smoth thatn 67.... il w8 for 4.3 to update.
http://www.technostall.com/xperia-s-android-442-kitkat-update/
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http://www.technostall.com/xperia-s-android-442-kitkat-update/
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no it's not true, when you download the file it is pure_aosp_alpha
They say sony will realease official update
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I don't think that they are gonna update the Xperia S anymore. It's a shame as it's a good device, I hope they don't do the same and abandon my Z1 after 18 months like they did with this device. Hopefully tho they might update this but it's very unlikely
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See the title 1st...
They said custom rom.
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adam20115 said:
I don't think that they are gonna update the Xperia S anymore. It's a shame as it's a good device, I hope they don't do the same and abandon my Z1 after 18 months like they did with this device. Hopefully tho they might update this but it's very unlikely
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Abandon? You expecting lifetime of updates? They didn't abandon Xperia S. The current firmware is fine.
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Abandon? You expecting lifetime of updates? They didn't abandon Xperia S. The current firmware is fine.
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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I dont mean abandon, i mean like they should try to update it for as long as possible as its still a good device, thats all i mean
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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I m using pure Aosp 4.4 right now.
And I m happy with it.
But see every nexus has offical cm support.they are also working on 4.4.
And here only billchane and rehman FX are working.thanks to them we have 4.4 build.suppose we don't have more support from them.than what we gonna do.then I will sell my sl..and surely buy nexus 5 or htc m7
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I m using pure Aosp 4.4 right now.
And I m happy with it.
But see every nexus has offical cm support.they are also working on 4.4.
And here only billchane and rehman FX are working.thanks to them we have 4.4 build.suppose we don't have more support from them.than what we gonna do.then I will sell my sl..and surely buy nexus 5 or htc m7
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Best not buy a HTC, support isn't great there either. The One X(L) isn't going beyond Android 4.2. If this is important to you, there's only q Nexus, a Google Play Edition phone or maybe a Motorola Moto X but we still have to see how long Motorola is going to support phones now they're part of Google.
And indeed we wouldn't be much without Rayman or bilchen. But it's like this for the vast majority of Android devices.
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I tried several KK-based roms for xperia S, but all gave me random reboots
had some on 4.3, but with 4.4 I have too many to be stable as dayly driver.
i guess they all use the same kernel (open semc), that could explain why the all have it?
but... why do some people claim to have no reboots, and others have em 'all the time'?
i'm now on nature rom (4.1) and no problems at all, it's a great rom, but i really like 4.4 as well.
will there be a stable kernel/version soon?
dreezz said:
I tried several KK-based roms for xperia S, but all gave me random reboots
had some on 4.3, but with 4.4 I have too many to be stable as dayly driver.
i guess they all use the same kernel (open semc), that could explain why the all have it?
but... why do some people claim to have no reboots, and others have em 'all the time'?
i'm now on nature rom (4.1) and no problems at all, it's a great rom, but i really like 4.4 as well.
will there be a stable kernel/version soon?
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Try Pure AOSP Kitkat rom! It's different build and I have no such problem with that
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but has same kernel?
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but has same kernel?
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Different
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but has same kernel?
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That 1 has aops kernal.its own
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
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tel033 said:
First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
S has 2 updates ics,jb.and what about sl.sl was preloaded with ics.it has only jb update.
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tel033 said:
First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
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You're absolutely correct that Galaxy Nexus lack of KitKat is due to Texas Instruments. Similar, Xperia S ain't getting 4.2 and above due to Qualcomm, not Sony.
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lee480 said:
You're absolutely correct that Galaxy Nexus lack of KitKat is due to Texas Instruments. Similar, Xperia S ain't getting 4.2 and above due to Qualcomm, not Sony.
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Ok then my mistake, but how would you then explain the galaxy s2 getting updates with a snapdragon s2?
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Hey,
It seems that the testing for qmr 2 is over and releasing of the maintenance release 2 update for xperia m will be available in July 2014..
What's in the update?
Updated Google Mobile services
Stability, performance, and other general improvements
Source: vodafone Australia
http://support.vodafone.com.au/articles/FAQ/Sony-Xperia-M-software-update
Hey guys.., according to Vodafone Australian community, maintenance release 2 for Xperia m will be released on or before 7th of July for phones bought through them. For other people, they have to wait till PTCRB approves new build number for this update
FakrudeenAhamed said:
Hey guys.., according to Vodafone Australian community, maintenance release 2 for Xperia m will be released on or before 7th of July for phones bought through them. For other people, they have to wait till PTCRB approves new build number for this update
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When can we expect this update in India???
Altaib said:
When can we expect this update in India???
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As I ve said in the previous post.., Indian phones will get the update only after PTCRB approves the new build number for the QMR2 update...
Don't you know the date of releasing????
My phone is heating heavily after the last update...
I want the next update immediately..
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Don't you know the date of releasing????
My phone is heating heavily after the last update...
I want the next update immediately..
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It ll be before 10th of next month for sure.. ,because in the last update it happened like that only I.e india got update after one month of vodafone Australia release
I want the new update just to fix the really bad battery life.
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RedLedLight said:
I want the new update just to fix the really bad battery life.
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We are also waiting for the update to fix the volume bar bug and fast battery draining...
Did u try factory reset after the last update., bcos after the factory reset, the battery draining was reduced little bit....
Try this
http://bgr.com/2014/03/19/speed-up-android-how-to/ to increase the speed little bit...
Answered my own question.
I personally don't like these small updates. Why Sony keeps releasing a lot of small updates to an outdated version of Android instead of focusing giving us KitKat, which our phone is more than capable of running?
Take a look at Xperia L, for example, that phone is identical to ours (the only difference being internal memory and main camera) and was released with Android 4.1. They got a major update to Android 4.2.2 and now all they get are a lot of small updates and nothing more. I mean, Xperia L is veeeery similar to Xperia M, so why they didn't get an official 4.3 or 4.4 update too?
If this history of updates repeats with Xperia M, we'll be stuck in Android 4.3 forever. Sony will keep releasing small updates to us instead of bringing new versions of Android and when our phone support ends we will depend only of custom ROMs, not to mention Xperia M dual users (like me) that need to choose between having second SIM functionality or using a custom ROM to get KitKat
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I personally don't like these small updates. Why Sony keeps releasing a lot of small updates to an outdated version of Android instead of focusing giving us KitKat, which our phone is more than capable of running?
Take a look at Xperia L, for example, that phone is identical to ours (the only difference being internal memory and main camera) and was released with Android 4.1. They got a major update to Android 4.2.2 and now all they get are a lot of small updates and nothing more. I mean, Xperia L is veeeery similar to Xperia M, so why they didn't get an official 4.3 or 4.4 update too?
If this history of updates repeats with Xperia M, we'll be stuck in Android 4.3 forever. Sony will keep releasing small updates to us instead of bringing new versions of Android and when our phone support ends we will depend only of custom ROMs, not to mention Xperia M dual users (like me) that need to choose between having second SIM functionality or using a custom ROM to get KitKat
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I agree with you bro..., Sony is just irritating the user with these small updates and even those updates aren't checked properly before they are released., those updates are released to fix a bug, they do fix it but the problem is that they are creating a new bug..
And bro I read somewhere that xperia m both single and dual won't receive Kitkat, and it seems that we ll be stuck with 4.3 forever unless we use unofficial roms.. I think that this ll be the case for all the Sony midrange phones....
I am a great fan of Sony, but now I am starting to hate it...
FakrudeenAhamed said:
We are also waiting for the update to fix the volume bar bug and fast battery draining...
Did u try factory reset after the last update., bcos after the factory reset, the battery draining was reduced little bit....
Try this
http://bgr.com/2014/03/19/speed-up-android-how-to/ to increase the speed little bit...
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Thanks
There is a way to fix the volume bug but you need to have root and delete something...
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Thanks
There is a way to fix the volume bug but you need to have root and delete something...
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Yeah I heard abt that from one of my frd.. But I don't want to do that cos we are almost close for the next update.. Waiting is nothing wrong ..
It seems that the next update after QMR2 for xperia m ll take a long time ( usually it takes long time) I mean much longer cos there is no info regarding the future updates from Vodafone Australia
The build number to the firmware is 15.4.A.1.9, a firmware what has already been released.
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The build number to the firmware is 15.4.A.1.9, a firmware what has already been released.
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That's feature release 2 brother, and it was released on June 10
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That's feature release 2 brother, and it was released on June 10
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Technical details
Android Version: 4.3
Build Number: 15.4.A.1.9
Kernel: 3.4.0 [email protected]#1 Fri May 9 12:13:00 CST 2014
Baseband: 2.22.J.1.18_8x30_M:1721632.43.00.000 424_A:1721632.43.00.001912
Model: C1904
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Is there really a point in the hype around it if it is the same firmware what has already been released? We already have ftf files of it.
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Is there really a point in the hype around it if it is the same firmware what has already been released? We already have ftf files of it.
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This post isn't about 15.4.A.1.9 cos it's old news
. This is abt the next update which xperia m is gonna get next month.. Still the build number for the next update has not been released as the update is yet to be certified by PTCRB
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Thanks
There is a way to fix the volume bug but you need to have root and delete something...
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Found the thing to delete
It is /vendor /overlay
Then just reboot
I I helped press the thanks button!
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Found the thing to delete
It is /vendor /overlay
Then just reboot
I I helped press the thanks button!
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I didn't ask for the steps to fix volume bar bug brother...
It's so sad that, still thr is no official info abt the release of the update