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So HTC Released the ICS Update ROM for Incredible S...

So I was wondering... don't we basically have the same phone? I just dont understand why they can release it for the S but we are still left in the dust... http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-incredible-s-ics-update-119483/

kalojado said:
So I was wondering... don't we basically have the same phone? I just dont understand why they can release it for the S but we are still left in the dust... http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-incredible-s-ics-update-119483/
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Verizon has to go over every update
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DAMMIT! I read the first part of the title and got all excited...
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nitsua98 said:
DAMMIT! I read the first part of the title and got all excited...
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I wouldn't have if you hadn't bumped it!
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werdna87 said:
Verizon has to go over every update
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Lol me too. ****!
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Jizzylax said:
Lol me too. ****!
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why are you quoting me i was giving the OP a reason for why it hasnt come yet. Atleast some awesome person gave you guys a leak though...

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why are you quoting me i was giving the OP a reason for why it hasnt come yet. Atleast some awesome person gave you guys a leak though...
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Lol I was supposed to be quoting nitsua98.... quote fail on my part!

Verizon is officially full of ****. Nuff said.
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david_hume said:
Verizon is officially full of ****. Nuff said.
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Its their responsibility, because when people have issues, the call VZW not HTC, and every call to VZW costs them $$

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Its their responsibility, because when people have issues, the call VZW not HTC, and every call to VZW costs them $$
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At this rate, I think most of their customers are probably rooted already. Better support here than vzw techs can ever provide!
Fact is that vzw wants to make sure their crap doesn't affect HTC's update before releasing it. As such, we all now how much crap they dump on us, so expect to wait a lot longer!
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Macrodroid said:
At this rate, I think most of their customers are probably rooted already. Better support here than vzw techs can ever provide!
Fact is that vzw wants to make sure their crap doesn't affect HTC's update before releasing it. As such, we all now how much crap they dump on us, so expect to wait a lot longer!
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OK but I would say about 80% of people don't root. I know that is just an estimate but from experience it seems reasonable to me. So, say vzw sold 100,000 inc2s. That would be 80,000 people that might call them if the update changed something or something was broken in it. That's a lot of time for vzw service reps
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OK but I would say about 80% of people don't root. I know that is just an estimate but from experience it seems reasonable to me. So, say vzw sold 100,000 inc2s. That would be 80,000 people that might call them if the update changed something or something was broken in it. That's a lot of time for vzw service reps
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I am not saying you are wrong, but my original point is that ICS is on the Incredible S, (which I think is the same phone unless someone tells me differently) and it is fine. If it was such an issue, Verizon would never release an update on any phone ever... because something can always go wrong and often does. The one way they truly know there are issues is to release an update, listen to feedback and send out bug fixes. What we "think" we know is that Verizon has had this update, since at least August if not earlier and they are sitting on it. I don't believe one bit that they are worried that this update might break something, Maybe I am a conspiracy theorist, but I think they are holding off hoping more people update to newer phones. Look at the Galaxy Nexus. JellyBean 2 or 3 months ago and Verizon just updated it about a week ago. The Galaxy Nexus is going on a year old and if they can get people to upgrade, they can also get people into this ridiculous share everything plan. I just don't think it has anything to do with them making this update perfect, because that would not follow how they have handled updates up until now...

kalojado said:
I am not saying you are wrong, but my original point is that ICS is on the Incredible S, (which I think is the same phone unless someone tells me differently) and it is fine. If it was such an issue, Verizon would never release an update on any phone ever... because something can always go wrong and often does. The one way they truly know there are issues is to release an update, listen to feedback and send out bug fixes. What we "think" we know is that Verizon has had this update, since at least August if not earlier and they are sitting on it. I don't believe one bit that they are worried that this update might break something, Maybe I am a conspiracy theorist, but I think they are holding off hoping more people update to newer phones. Look at the Galaxy Nexus. JellyBean 2 or 3 months ago and Verizon just updated it about a week ago. The Galaxy Nexus is going on a year old and if they can get people to upgrade, they can also get people into this ridiculous share everything plan. I just don't think it has anything to do with them making this update perfect, because that would not follow how they have handled updates up until now...
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The incredible s is gsm (at&t, T-Mobile), incredible 2 is CDMA (aka Verizon) Verizon obviously didn't get their greasy paws on the incredible s to slow down the release
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Triscuit said:
The incredible s is gsm (at&t, T-Mobile), incredible 2 is CDMA (aka Verizon) Verizon obviously didn't get their greasy paws on the incredible s to slow down the release
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HTC has always done from my knowledge. Oh, if you do get the OTA update, then I hope you get good coverage. Last time I did an OTA update, it took two and a half hour to download like 180 MB at full bars.
P.S. I believe that Sprint is still CDMA to my knowledge (or I don't know crap.)
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werdna87 said:
OK but I would say about 80% of people don't root. I know that is just an estimate but from experience it seems reasonable to me. So, say vzw sold 100,000 inc2s. That would be 80,000 people that might call them if the update changed something or something was broken in it. That's a lot of time for vzw service reps
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agreed, not to mention if bugs arise from the ota or post ota (that werent caught in testing or werent thought to be a big deal) then they have to potentially release more incremental updates that cost more money
i dont know exactly how the contract stuff works, but im assuming verizon paid for ics updates from htc for the tbolt and inc2 (since there are debug builds) but might be able to cut their losses by not actually releasing it...if they feel that it doesnt benefit them by releasing it
the tbolt not getting updated makes sense actually since it was released 3/11, and that puts the 20 month on contract update window for those early adopters within the next month or two
i dont see verizon doing anything to lessen the chances those users upgrade....and a new OS just might do that
inc2 was released about 6 weeks to 2 months later, but same theory applies
not to say the update still *wont* happen...but every week that its not out id say significantly drops the chances of it
now that doesnt get htc off the hook for chinese inc2 kernel source...which by my count is approaching (if not passed) their own 120 day window (which techinically by my interpretation is not legal anyway) for releasing it
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I am not saying you are wrong, but my original point is that ICS is on the Incredible S, (which I think is the same phone unless someone tells me differently) and it is fine.
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actually htc has been releasing (for the first time i can remember) the ics updates for the msm7x30 phones on htc dev as RUU's rather than ota's as of late
without looking im pretty sure they did this for the desire s, rhyme, and the more recent inc s updates....they seemed to have stopped ota's through carriers for it
i guess their reasoning is something along the lines of "well the general public wont take the upgrade, so less support" and since its released through htc dev anyway i dont think they have to support it...its more like "here it is, have at it"

This will make the various ICS ROMS for DINC2 much better, since now they will be based on our phone instead of something like our phone.

lvleph said:
This will make the various ICS ROMS for DINC2 much better, since now they will be based on our phone instead of something like our phone.
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This doesn't mean jack for the Inc2.

LOL, so now today HTC has been responding on their Facebook and saying they are working with Verizon on the ICS update for Thunderbolt, Incredible 2... and the REZOUND! SMH. The Rezound was already updated to ICS a while back, early August if I remember correctly. I really think no one over there knows what the hell they are doing...
http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/rezound.html

lvleph said:
This will make the various ICS ROMS for DINC2 much better, since now they will be based on our phone instead of something like our phone.
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Just so you know, there is a ROM based on a vzw leak...
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werdna87 said:
Just so you know, there is a ROM based on a vzw leak...
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Unfortunately, its buggy as hell. If it works for you, then by all means, enjoy it!!!

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Does anybody know if get a galaxy s2 as a replacement for damaged or lost phone , or they send u S3...Anyone?
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You will more then likely get a refurbished s2. any phone i have had replaces has beeen the same model.

thankobidient said:
Does anybody know if get a galaxy s2 as a replacement for damaged or lost phone , or they send u S3...Anyone?
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Unless u have had multiple issues with the same model phone they will never just give u the next model up, u could try being an ass about it, some ppl get positive results like that, but to be honest, besides screen size the difference in the two phones is very small, the s2 is a little aged but if u look it still has the most recent os, still gets plenty of love from devs, and though aging still is considered a flagship phone I love my Hercules, wouldn't hope for a s3 as replacement
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soupysoup said:
Unless u have had multiple issues with the same model phone they will never just give u the next model up, u could try being an ass about it, some ppl get positive results like that, but to be honest, besides screen size the difference in the two phones is very small, the s2 is a little aged but if u look it still has the most recent os, still gets plenty of love from devs, and though aging still is considered a flagship phone I love my Hercules, wouldn't hope for a s3 as replacement
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That's not entirely true...
When my vibrant bit the dust, the exchange ended up being my hercules because they no longer had any of the vibrants. I had a choice between the HTC Amaze and the GS2, and I like to think I made the right choice.
To the OP: Since they still offer the GS2, it is what you'll get in an exchange fit your GS2.
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soupysoup said:
Unless u have had multiple issues with the same model phone they will never just give u the next model up, u could try being an ass about it, some ppl get positive results like that, but to be honest, besides screen size the difference in the two phones is very small, the s2 is a little aged but if u look it still has the most recent os, still gets plenty of love from devs, and though aging still is considered a flagship phone I love my Hercules, wouldn't hope for a s3 as replacement
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I don't understand how people can still be infatuated with this phone. It's a good phone, but it's outdated. Don't know why I haven't upgraded yet, but I'm beyond sick of this device. The Snapdragon s3 chip is showing it's age. I'd take an GS3 any over this phone.
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H3adru5H said:
I don't understand how people can still be infatuated with this phone. It's a good phone, but it's outdated. Don't know why I haven't upgraded yet, but I'm beyond sick of this device. The Snapdragon s3 chip is showing it's age. I'd take an GS3 any over this phone.
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So update then, the Hercules may be 2yrs old but its far from outdated, the reason ppl love this phone is sammy still takes care of it, still has latest software, still has lots of development going on, and if u look at it the s3 isn't that much better than the s2 beside the .3in of screen size, the Hercules had been and will continue to be around, and oh it will continue to get updates until 4.2.2 where it will stop, along with the s3, note, note 2, and us version of current s4, so no this phone does not suck and it's not going anywhere, go update to an s3 and see how little difference there really is, why do ppl leave comments like this?
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soupysoup said:
So update then, the Hercules may be 2yrs old but its far from outdated, the reason ppl love this phone is sammy still takes care of it, still has latest software, still has lots of development going on, and if u look at it the s3 isn't that much better than the s2 beside the .3in of screen size, the Hercules had been and will continue to be around, and oh it will continue to get updates until 4.2.2 where it will stop, along with the s3, note, note 2, and us version of current s4, so no this phone does not suck and it's not going anywhere, go update to an s3 and see how little difference there really is, why do ppl leave comments like this?
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Not much of a difference? Let me list some for you...
Bigger, 720p screen
The s4 CPU is about 30% faster along with 2gb of ram plus the Adreno 320 GPU is worlds ahead of the adreno chip in t989.
MUCH better battery life
And a MUCH better camera to list a few facts.
It is a upgrade and an all around better device. Don't kid yourself. This phone is good, not denying that, but don't be a fanboy and deny the obvious.
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H3adru5H said:
Not much of a difference? Let me list some for you...
Bigger, 720p screen
The s4 CPU is about 30% faster along with 2gb of ram
MUCH better battery life
MUCH better camera to list a few. It is a upgrade and an all around better device. Don't kid yourself. This phone is good, not denying that, but don't be a fanboy and deny the obvious.
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The t989 also has 2gb of ram, yes the screen isn't as nice but it's not that much smaller either at 4.52in, the processor is only about 17% faster not 30 and I get amazing battery life, so no it's not that much better, if u look at the difference between the s and the s2 its phenomenal, the s2 to s3, not so much, now I'm no fanboy and I wasn't dissrepecting anyone with my comment but just wondering why if u dislike the device u would post about it in a forum dedicated to the Hercules, that's all, is the s3 a great device, absolutely, but so is the s2 and it nobody here cares how much u dislike it, we love it because we do, and that's why we, along with the entire development base for the phone, are still infatuated with it, if u aren't then upgrade
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soupysoup said:
H3adru5H said:
Not much of a difference? Let me list some for you...
Bigger, 720p screen
The s4 CPU is about 30% faster along with 2gb of ram
MUCH better battery life
MUCH better camera to list a few. It is a upgrade and an all around better device. Don't kid yourself. This phone is good, not denying that, but don't be a fanboy and deny the obvious.
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The t989 also has 2gb of ram, yes the screen isn't as nice but it's not that much smaller either at 4.52in, the processor is only about 17% faster not 30 and I get amazing battery life, so no it's not that much better, if u look at the difference between the s and the s2 its phenomenal, the s2 to s3, not so much, now I'm no fanboy and I wasn't dissrepecting anyone with my comment but just wondering why if u dislike the device u would post about it in a forum dedicated to the Hercules, that's all, is the s3 a great device, absolutely, but so is the s2 and it nobody here cares how much u dislike it, we love it because we do, and that's why we, along with the entire development base for the phone, are still infatuated with it, if u aren't then upgrade
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The t989 also has 2gb of ram? You sure about that? Because mine sure as hell doesn't along with the ton of t989s I sold working for T-Mobile..
You're argument is invalid.
Any who back to topic, you get a refurb t989. T-Mobile is still selling the t989 in store so that's not going to change for a long time. Matter of fact before I left T-Mobile, they had just released the steel grey version.
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H3adru5H said:
soupysoup said:
The t989 also has 2gb of ram? You sure about that? Because mine sure as hell doesn't along with the ton of t989s I sold working for T-Mobile..
You're argument is invalid.
Any who back to topic, you get a refurb t989. T-Mobile is still selling the t989 in store so that's not going to change for a long time. Matter of fact before I left T-Mobile, they had just released the steel grey version.
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You know what, your right, soo to avoid all the back and forth how bout u go update and I'll keep hacking my wonderfully up to date herc, sorry if I have offended ur opinion with my not knowing what I'm talking about, u have itself a great time with whatever device u choose
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Yes I'm very sure, would u like the exact spec list or does the ss show enough? Stock come with 16gb-64gb storage, 2gb ram, before ICS, when it was still packaged with GB u are right, it had 1gb ram but since ICS and jb it has been increased, and why are u getting such an attitude, I'm not saying anything bad to u, just stating that u are wrong on your specs, I've been hacking for 10+ yrs and I've come to know android in and out, and this specific device even better, so yes I'm sure lol
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My god...
The T989 along with every other variant of the Galaxy S2 has always had only ONE GB of physical RAM. What you're looking at is STORAGE.
I'm done here lol.
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H3adru5H said:
soupysoup said:
The t989 also has 2gb of ram? You sure about that? Because mine sure as hell doesn't along with the ton of t989s I sold working for T-Mobile..
You're argument is invalid.
Any who back to topic, you get a refurb t989. T-Mobile is still selling the t989 in store so that's not going to change for a long time. Matter of fact before I left T-Mobile, they had just released the steel grey version.
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So be done and stop trolling, u don't like the herc get out the forum, have a nice time with whatever device u so choose to upgrade to, I'll keep my nice t989
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wrong
Mines died a few days ago also, they offered me a refurbished s2, a lumia or a mytouch q. Obviously I stuck with a refurbished s2 as the other choices both suck. The lumia has the same/ worse specs in some areas then the s2.

soupysoup said:
H3adru5H said:
So be done and stop trolling, u don't like the herc get out the forum, have a nice time with whatever device u so choose to upgrade to, I'll keep my nice t989
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No need to get butthurt lol. I was only stating facts. Not only that I clearly stated that this is a good device, so I'm not trolling, or starting a fanboy war.
When you become this infatuated with a device, you grow ignorant to everything else that's out there. To the point where you and others like yourself will talk down the GS3 to make the GS2 seem like it's a dream when in reality, your opinions are far from the truth. This makes you no better than an iPhone fanboy.
This is completely off topic, but the fact is the GS3 is a worthy upgrade to the GS2.
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H3adru5H said:
soupysoup said:
No need to get butthurt lol. I was only stating facts. Not only that I clearly stated that this is a good device, so I'm not trolling, or starting a fanboy war.
When you become this infatuated with a device, you grow ignorant to everything else that's out there. To the point where you and others like yourself will talk down the GS3 to make the GS2 seem like it's a dream when in reality, your opinions are far from the truth. This makes you no better than an iPhone fanboy.
This is completely off topic, but the fact is the GS3 is a worthy upgrade to the GS2.
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Free upgrade maybe. If I had to shell out a penny, it would be for a newer model...S4 or N4....definitely not paying for a phone that is a "bit" better, yes it is a bit better.....if I'm paying anything, it would be for something a lot better!
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kj2112 said:
H3adru5H said:
Free upgrade maybe. If I had to shell out a penny, it would be for a newer model...S4 or N4....definitely not paying for a phone that is a "bit" better, yes it is a bit better.....if I'm paying anything, it would be for something a lot better!
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Oh yea of course lol Why get a GS3 when the GS4 is out. Too many good phones. Moto X looks like a real winner though. That device is sexy.
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H3adru5H said:
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Oh yea of course lol Why get a GS3 when the GS4 is out. Too many good phones. Moto X looks like a real winner though. That device is sexy.
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After my experience with the galaxy S and now S2....I'm probably gonna stick with Nexus phones. Probably the one after the N4 now. I like speedy updates, plus the dev section is busy busy. Well, can only speak for my N7 so far.
I do like my S2, and have a year and half left on contract. It handles anything I need it for just fine. So no hurry to upgrade. Maybe if I was hooked on the latest and greatest 3d games....but I don't play many games on my phone.
Don't use the sd slot either.....so I think I'll go nexus when I do get a new one.
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After my experience with the galaxy S and now S2....I'm probably gonna stick with Nexus phones. Probably the one after the N4 now. I like speedy updates, plus the dev section is busy busy. Well, can only speak for my N7 so far.
I do like my S2, and have a year and half left on contract. It handles anything I need it for just fine. So no hurry to upgrade. Maybe if I was hooked on the latest and greatest 3d games....but I don't play many games on my phone.
Don't use the sd slot either.....so I think I'll go nexus when I do get a new one.
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Same here. Honestly, all I want is the smoothest experience possible. I'm tired of the missing frames, general choppiness lag that I experience sometimes with my GS2. I considered a Nexus, but I'm not the biggest LG fan. Though their Optimus G2 is one sexy ass device.
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H3adru5H said:
I don't understand how people can still be infatuated with this phone. It's a good phone, but it's outdated. Don't know why I haven't upgraded yet, but I'm beyond sick of this device. The Snapdragon s3 chip is showing it's age. I'd take an GS3 any over this phone.
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I feel the exact way, for me its the money, If i had enough I would have gotten the galaxy note 2 months ago, same situation with the S4. I don't have a job right now so I can't even afford the extra 20. I wouldn't have any phone service if it weren't for my dad helping me out.

I already ordered an HTC One yesterday which I'll be picking up tomorrow but I might hold back on actually using the new phone. I'm pretty surprised that the Galaxy SII, despite its age still has an abundance of developer support (not to mention the ROM ports with Linaro available)

What would you do?

As of August 1st I have been eligible for an upgrade. Also.. I am no longer in contract with sprint.
On a side note, I travel the world (primarily in the US though) for my career.
What phone would you get? S4? HTC One? Hold out for the Motorola X (I love that phone despite the somewhat mid tier specs)?
Would you switch carriers? Wait for the next nexus? Any other rumored phones on the horizon?
I feel like I do not want to renew my contract just yet and no device particularly stands out to me just yet (aside from my Motorola X curiosity).
As the title suggests.... What would you do? Hold out for nexus on a gsm and ditch? I'm SO TORN!
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EmperorX said:
As of August 1st I have been eligible for an upgrade. Also.. I am no longer in contract with sprint.
On a side note, I travel the world (primarily in the US though) for my career.
What phone would you get? S4? HTC One? Hold out for the Motorola X (I love that phone despite the somewhat mid tier specs)?
Would you switch carriers? Wait for the next nexus? Any other rumored phones on the horizon?
I feel like I do not want to renew my contract just yet and no device particularly stands out to me just yet (aside from my Motorola X curiosity).
As the title suggests.... What would you do? Hold out for nexus on a gsm and ditch? I'm SO TORN!
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Imho I would ditch sprint and go with tmobile. Get the s4 and with T-Mobile you can upgrade when you want with that new programthey have.
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SASQUATCH said:
Imho I would ditch sprint and go with tmobile. Get the s4 and with T-Mobile you can upgrade when you want with that new programthey have.
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It's all double adspeak bs. Don't really save much, if at all.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/7/19/4536042/jump-edge-next-early-upgrade-plans-compared
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Also, with travelling the country... Are they known for good data in most major cities (sprint certainly is not)?
I primarily work in Seattle, Los Angeles, new York, Las Vegas, Hollywood, Florida, Atlanta (sometimes). The other countries I primarily work in are Germany, France, London and possibly soon will be in Japan more frequently.
Obviously gsm is a better choice if overseas trips continue to happen more often... Mostly concerned with coverage in the US though as I can get by (well enough) using Google voice and wifi in Europe... Although that has SCREWED me over few times...
I think I'm mostly hung up on devices at this point. I may just bite the bullet and buy the next lte nexus and attempt to be contract free...
So far away though and I am so tired of the sgsii...
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Also, with travelling the country... Are they known for good data in most major cities (sprint certainly is not)? <br />
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I primarily work in Seattle, Los Angeles, new York, Las Vegas, Hollywood, Florida, Atlanta (sometimes). The other countries I primarily work in are Germany, France, London and possibly soon will be in Japan more frequently. <br />
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Obviously gsm is a better choice if overseas trips continue to happen more often... Mostly concerned with coverage in the US though as I can get by (well enough) using Google voice and wifi in Europe... Although that has SCREWED me over few times... <br />
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I think I'm mostly hung up on devices at this point. I may just bite the bullet and buy the next lte nexus and attempt to be contract free... <br />
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So far away though and I am so tired of the sgsii... <br />
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The GSM S4 Google Edition (basically a Nexus) should be coming out really soon.
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The GSM S4 Google Edition (basically a Nexus) should be coming out really soon.
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If only it had nexus pricing!
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Do not do the new program that t-mobile and AT&T are doing. It is absolute BS. Not only do you pay the full amount over a 2 year contract, if you want to upgrade, you are required to give the device back. You are essentially renting the device from them for the full price. If you want to cancel your contract early , you are required to pay the rest of the full retail price of the device at the time of purchase and pay the ETF. Go with the original plan options if you go contract.
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Do not do the new program that t-mobile and AT&T are doing. It is absolute BS. Not only do you pay the full amount over a 2 year contract, if you want to upgrade, you are required to give the device back. You are essentially renting the device from them for the full price. If you want to cancel your contract early , you are required to pay the rest of the full retail price of the device at the time of purchase and pay the ETF. Go with the original plan options if you go contract.
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Yes, this goes along with the article I posted in response to my first responder. Those plans are garbage...
If only the Motorola X had been the cheap off contract phone everyone was waiting for
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@EmperorX sounds like we may be in the same industry. I get great reception wherever I travel and I think I'll hold out for my S4 or HTC One or whatever awesome device that's out when I'm do for my upgrade in November. Plus the hotels give us free WiFi.
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After doing more research and reading a ton of reviews... I may just go with the Motorola X phone
Not sure if I'm going to stick with sprint or not. Will decide next month.
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EmperorX said:
After doing more research and reading a ton of reviews... I may just go with the Motorola X phone
Not sure if I'm going to stick with sprint or not. Will decide next month.
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Not to burst your bubble, but I feel it is a deal breaker for me, no sd card support on the Moto X

32 gigs is enough for me (when that variant comes to everyone). Only stuff I store locally is Spotify music. Everything else auto uploads to the cloud essentially.
We'll see though... Note 3 on the horizon... Too many choices!
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EmperorX said:
32 gigs is enough for me (when that variant comes to everyone). Only stuff I store locally is Spotify music. Everything else auto uploads to the cloud essentially.
We'll see though... Note 3 on the horizon... Too many choices!
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I don't like relying on the cloud, I store everything locally, I guess 32 gb would be enough if we get one with that much memory. Just wanted you to be aware of that.

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I don't like relying on the cloud, I store everything locally, I guess 32 gb would be enough if we get one with that much memory. Just wanted you to be aware of that.
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Oh yes I've been watching like a hawk. Thanks for looking out
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Sorry to Hijack the thread.. what does everyone think of the LG g2? I am highly considering it to be my next phone from the Epic 4g touch.. It will either be the Lg g2 or Note 3 for me.. Thoughts?!

Ind3lible said:
Sorry to Hijack the thread.. what does everyone think of the LG g2? I am highly considering it to be my next phone from the Epic 4g touch.. It will either be the Lg g2 or Note 3 for me.. Thoughts?!
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No hijacking. I want to hear everyone's thoughts!
I haven't read much about it... What about the HTC one max? Sexy
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Ind3lible said:
Sorry to Hijack the thread.. what does everyone think of the LG g2? I am highly considering it to be my next phone from the Epic 4g touch.. It will either be the Lg g2 or Note 3 for me.. Thoughts?!
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I like it. But I'm a removable battery and micro SD slot kinda guy. I'll wait for the next snapdragon 800 powered phone with the above options. Note 3? S5?
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EmperorX said:
No hijacking. I want to hear everyone's thoughts!
I haven't read much about it... What about the HTC one max? Sexy
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If you're looking into the HTC one look the the LG G2.
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If I were you, I'd wait until Sprint releases a tri-band LTE phone first, whether it be the Note 3 or Galaxy S5. I'm personally gonna be renewing my contract for the S5.

Yeah the no SD card and non removable kinda annoying me too. The Korean version has both SD slot and removable battery. Let's hope sprint can get it in their variant ... I'm banking on that if they do I want to try something different than Samsung
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New rumor from last night is that there will be TWO nexus variants in Q4. One from Lg (based off of (G2) and another nexus made by Motorola (NOT based on the moto X). If either of these is cdma (probably not) I'll buy on the play store and stay contract free.
Given that they will most likely be gsm only... I would most like the Motorola nexus, if true, and switch to tmobile. Contract free of course...
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4.3 update is coming - Discusion of all things 4.3 here

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-set-for-android-4-3-update-50012349/
What do you guys think about this?

PoD_Hazard said:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-set-for-android-4-3-update-50012349/
What do you guys think about this?
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I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.

bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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+1
Agreed. Goodbye Samsung. It's pathetic that its going to 2014 before a phone released in October 2012 gets a software update. You've lost me as well.

stoneule said:
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Agreed. Goodbye Samsung. It's pathetic that its going to 2014 before a phone released in October 2012 gets a software update. You've lost me as well.
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Add me to the list.
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bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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More like January or Feb, I'd say or maybe never...at least for the Sprint variant. It isn't in Sprint's interest to push updates unless the other carriers do. Of course Samsung wants to get these updates moving because they want the public to feel they'll be supported if they purchase a Samsung branded device but brand loyalty isn't in Sprints interests unless the brand is Sprint and that of course is usually maintained at the end of a very thin thread as it is.
As for the possibility of receiving the 4.3 update. I'm always excited about OTA updates because updates play a fairly big role in future versions of Android. The more updates there are the more well understood it is what the public wants/needs from future versions because of the broader spectrum of users providing feedback.
For my own personal device...I don't care. I run what I want on my device anyway regardless of whatever Samsung/Sprint/Google push. I don't give a rats ass about having a "pure" Android experience or being the first to get the latest version (no offense to the Nexus fans) either. I want my device dirty and nasty with a big moustache. I don't want be like one of those creeps that hangs around the strip clubs but never pays for a lap dance...I'm in the champaign room and let me tell you there is more going on in there than the song says. Why do you think I'm hanging around here? Trick it, brick it, fix it, trick it and brick it again...that's what it all about.
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bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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Same here.
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bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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a million times, this.. love the removable battery and storage but not sure if it's worth the [email protected]!%

Yea don't really care because Google separated their core services from the operating system so most of the really great feature are now pushed through Google rather than being a part of a new os version.
Android updates aren't as feature rich anymore.
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To the ones complaining who are you going to then? Unless its a Google phone it will be the same across all manufacturers. At least we have a date. Samsung actually announces all devices that will be upgraded at the same time unlike others like HTC who just tells u that their it phone of the moment will be upgraded while the rest get lost in forgotten land. Samsung actually has been the best non Google manufacturer with updates to their Galaxy line..
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When the Nexus 5 shows up, I'm outta here.

You could use Aosp... Just saying
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I'm wondering if this update will add the note 3 features.
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robertm2011 said:
When the Nexus 5 shows up, I'm outta here.
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I'm with you all the way.
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RayTrue04 said:
To the ones complaining who are you going to then? Unless its a Google phone it will be the same across all manufacturers. At least we have a date. Samsung actually announces all devices that will be upgraded at the same time unlike others like HTC who just tells u that their it phone of the moment will be upgraded while the rest get lost in forgotten land. Samsung actually has been the best non Google manufacturer with updates to their Galaxy line..
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This, with htc, unless you have the latest and greatest device forget about an update.
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I love how in this thread it's bunch of people complaining about how updates don't come fast enough and then when you look at the next thread in this section it's all about getting rid of the updater to stop those "pesky" notifications trying to get you to update... lol

They say December, but that's when they're submitting it to sprint. We'll actually get it Feb or Mar in 2014. Mark my words lol.
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Yes sirrrr no more 2nd hand phones for me when nexus comes through bye bye samsung.
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Im going with the note 3 so I dont give a damn when it comes out ima be rocking 4.3 out the box! With kitkat maybe falling this year for it
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AndroidStephen said:
I love how in this thread it's bunch of people complaining about how updates don't come fast enough and then when you look at the next thread in this section it's all about getting rid of the updater to stop those "pesky" notifications trying to get you to update... lol
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Pretty sure that you're missing the point.
The updates that we all are anxious for are system updates that ROM devs can work with, make better ROMs for us all. Definitely worth "complaining" about.
That other thread is about a fault where the phone thinks it needs a software update, but not really, or the update in question is actually not desirable for whatever reason.
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Im going with the note 3 so I dont give a damn when it comes out ima be rocking 4.3 out the box! With kitkat maybe falling this year for it
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I've been thinking long n hard about that, as an option. I do love my Note2, with the exception of the plastic, it's a badass device. But I don't actually use the pen as much as I thought I would. So taking a long look at the HTC Mega (?), and hoping that it makes it to the US... I allow myself a new phone every year, it being a hobby I indulge myself in, and I always buy outright, no ETF charges...
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HTC maxx, not mega

HTC Failing / Updates

Quick question that I'm thinking about that you should think about. If HTC goes out of business and fails as a company soon, will that mean we won't potentially get future software updates? Or will they all just be rolled out by Verizon as stock software like the Google Play edition HTC One?
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This is something you will never have to worry about in the life of this phone.

SyrStorm said:
Quick question that I'm thinking about that you should think about. If HTC goes out of business and fails as a company soon, will that mean we won't potentially get future software updates? Or will they all just be rolled out by Verizon as stock software like the Google Play edition HTC One?
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Ummm.. That's not going to happen... Weird question...
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cstrife999 said:
Ummm.. That's not going to happen... Weird question...
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there is a lot of media talk that HTC is failing. But I don't think they are in any danger of going out of business anytime soon. If anything, they'll get bought out by someone.

As much as I don't think that'll happen, I'm fond of the idea of a straight Google experience on this device without having to buy the GPE edition.
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I'm guessing each one of us already has an experience that speaks to this question (which is a pretty good one, by the way). OK, Motorola...Samsung...LG...none of them have failed yet, but here's my version: bought the Droid 3 in October 2011, and two short months later Motorola announced the D4. WHICH (magically) had just the minimum hardware to get the ICS update. Of course the D3 fell under the bar.
So I've suffered the shame and frustration of running Gingerbread on a phone for two years (fwiw, there *have* been ICS and JB ROMs, but all a bit wonky one way or the other, e.g., camera function), while the world of Android has raced by me. To owners like me -- less than 6 months after buying the beast -- all manufacturer support for the device went stone cold.
To be honest, I don't have any nuggets of wisdom to offer here. The two rays of hope if HTC fails are (1) we get root/unlocked bootloader and the devs save us, or (2) we get the 4.3 update as promised and find peace, happiness, and contentment one version short of Kitkat (which, by the way, doesn't look yet like the kind of leap we've seen from one version to the next -- many of the expected improvements are under the hood). I do not think that Google or Verizon will do any work whatsoever on the phone if HTC drops support for it.
-Matt