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Is anyone getting the HTC one?

I think that there is a quad core HTC one s coming out for the Tmobile line of phones. Anyone getting it, more undoubtedly there is an gs blaze being released add an addition to the galaxy s series of phones which is a hype looking at how we already have an original s and s2 all this does is make the galaxy s team further.
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Not a quad core......
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not with the S3 right around the corner

alleyezondisromo said:
not with the S3 right around the corner
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Do you really want to stay on the samsung boat? Android 5.0 is going to be launched this year, and youll have to wait 4+ months for an update again. When i jump shop, its to a phone with a running non-beta CM9. Its clear this phone has nothing in terms of CM and waiting till summer for ICS is simply pathetic on Samsungs part.

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Do you really want to stay on the samsung boat? Android 5.0 is going to be launched this year, and youll have to wait 4+ months for an update again. When i jump shop, its to a phone with a running non-beta CM9. Its clear this phone has nothing in terms of CM and waiting till summer for ICS is simply pathetic on Samsungs part.
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That's what I'm saying. This will probably be my last carrier subsidized phone period. Waiting on Samsung and then waiting on the carrier is a joke. This phone has been a big disappointment. I like the phone, but its like the red headed step child of the galaxy phones. This along with the skyrocket. I stopped waiting on ICS a while ago. Samsung is so hush mouth about updates. Makes you think they will do anything to get you to buy another phone. No thanks Sammy.
When we finally get ICS it will be dated and the next best thing will be out. By then the gsII will be yesterdays news. Google really needs to be more like Apple with updates. They are starting to leave a bad taste for me. This may sound like a rant but its true.

iwasblown said:
I think that there is a quad core HTC one s coming out for the Tmobile line of phones. Anyone getting it, more undoubtedly there is an gs blaze being released add an addition to the galaxy s series of phones which is a hype looking at how we already have an original s and s2 all this does is make the galaxy s team further.
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The HTC one S seems like a small downgrade of the amaze....like the blaze is a downgrade of the s2
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i wouldn't go HTC until they go back to making quality phones. They went downhill lately with crappy battery life and cheap lcd displays. just like how samsung had a slump until the gs2's got released

I'm looking at the Asus Padphone or the SGS3, depending on which one comes out with an AWS or Pentaband version.

The HTC one x is the one with the quad-core
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Mitallust said:
I'm looking at the Asus Padphone or the SGS3, depending on which one comes out with an AWS or Pentaband version.
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Asus has been quite good on updates with their current devices. If they keep that up id consider asus products in the future.
But at this point, im so sick of the android fragmentation that its either gonna be the google phone, or an iphone. Windows phones are starting to look more and more tempting to, specially with Windows 8 coming and whatever integration they have planned.
Even the google phones might get screwed on the CDMA side, and my carrier is CDMA only.
But its become quite clear that they havent finished ICS for the intl GSII, and probably havent started ours even. The CM team has nothing either. Have heard rumors that Cyanogen himself uses a T989 but i really doubt it, cause wed have an alpha at least.

Rekzer said:
Asus has been quite good on updates with their current devices. If they keep that up id consider asus products in the future.
But at this point, im so sick of the android fragmentation that its either gonna be the google phone, or an iphone. Windows phones are starting to look more and more tempting to, specially with Windows 8 coming and whatever integration they have planned.
Even the google phones might get screwed on the CDMA side, and my carrier is CDMA only.
But its become quite clear that they havent finished ICS for the intl GSII, and probably havent started ours even. The CM team has nothing either. Have heard rumors that Cyanogen himself uses a T989 but i really doubt it, cause wed have an alpha at least.
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Been using wp7. For the last two 1/2 months and although the apps aren't there yet, its been a refreshing change from all this ICS mess. Once T-Mobile comes out with a 4.3 or higher screen size, I will probably make a full switch.
I miss some of my apps and games though. Then again my ps3 takes care of the gaming issue. Wp7 runs so much smoother. Its nice to take a break from android.

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Been using wp7. For the last two 1/2 months and although the apps aren't there yet, its been a refreshing change from all this ICS mess. Once T-Mobile comes out with a 4.3 or higher screen size, I will probably make a full switch.
I miss some of my apps and games though. Then again my ps3 takes care of the gaming issue. Wp7 runs so much smoother. Its nice to take a break from android.
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Ya dude, with win8 tablets n all that coming, i think WP8 is my next upgrade when i think about it. MS/Nokia are making some high quality products.

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End of Life for Nexus?

Hi everybody,
I heard some rumors about the Nexus listed as EOL in various big electronic shops in Germany.
In addition to that, lots of european webshops stopped selling the Nexus after a nasty rise in selling price for the last weeks.
Can anyone comment on that with reliable informations?

the internet told me the phone was at EOL 1 year ago!

My carrier in Canada dropped the Nexus 3 months after first putting it on sale. Even Samsung has admitted in one of the patent trials with Apple that Nexus sales have been "insignificant". The Nexus has been dead as a consumer product for at least 6 months. However, that doesn't mean it is a bad phone. It just means that all the sheeple swayed by CPU cores and megapixels quickly move on to the newest and "best" thing.

EOL means that a certain carrier or OEM will stop giving updates. Since the updates come directly from Google, only Google can determine the EOL, not some shop in Germany or a Canadian carrier. Keep in mind, the Nexus S has received its jellybean update, so I don't think EOL will come anytime soon for the Gnex.

All major stores in the UK have stopped selling it and haven't had it for about 7 months.

I suspect it'll get at least the next update (4.2? 5.0?) If google gets their act together, possibly even more - it's not like the hardware is too limited.
And, of course, xda end of life would be at least a year after that, if not more.

^ Yep. It will be a looong time before the software is too much for the hardware..if ever.

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I suspect it'll get at least the next update (4.2? 5.0?) If google gets their act together, possibly even more - it's not like the hardware is too limited.
And, of course, xda end of life would be at least a year after that, if not more.
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all you gotta do is look at the Nexus S. Still kicking, and strongly. And the Galaxy Nexus is a stronger device hardware-wise.
no EOL in sight!

Yes OP it has been EOL-ed in Malaysia. However, like everyone mentioned, nothing to worry about flash yakju or a custom rom and you will never worry about EOL. Unless if you want to buy another galaxy nexus. Then the best time to buy is now before they go out of sale if they haven't already. Or wait for the next nexus.
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It's a nexus....
end of life is when you break it, lose it or wear it out from so much use.

raze599 said:
All major stores in the UK have stopped selling it and haven't had it for about 7 months.
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Out of Stock has nothing to do with End of Life.

Uh... EOL means the device is no longer manufactured, which will usually follow with less to no software support. The Galaxy Nexus won't be EOL anywhere for quite, quite some time.
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educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-life_(product)
granted, the definition is not carved in stone, but as for the Galaxy Nexus I guess we're nearing EOS after the price drops and massive sales in the states and elsewhere. nothing to worry about, Apple does the same with "discontinued" hardware still piling up in their warehouses such as the iPad 2 or iPhone 4S as soon as a successor device is on the horizon. and with the GNex it seems we're in for quite a selection of successor devices before year's end so it's just natural that Google and Samsung stopped production probably some months ago and cleared their warehouses over the last 2 months.
remember, in August 2012 the Nexus S (introduced in December 2010) got upgraded to 4.1.1 JB. I'd guess the GNex will get current firmware versions from Google well into 2014. Keep calm and carry on, guys. It's a Nexus after all ^^

LONG LIVE NEXUS!!
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Zepius said:
the internet told me the phone was at EOL 1 year ago!
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This post seems awfully random...
I guess just as much as mine...
Even if the Nexus reaches EOL, it was a pretty decent phone and will have community support for a good while. My ONLY complaint about my Nexus is the USB storage transfer fiasco. I understand technically what its doing, and I understand why they did what they did. That don't make me any happier though. I've found newer ways to transfer files from my pc or other devices to my Nexus, I just wish the ease of USB Mass Storage was there...

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LONG LIVE NEXUS!!
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so wait a business that deals with cell phones, wants to remove old stock for the latest and greatest, no way

EOL for mainstream consumer and hipsters i guess..
No one mentioned HTC HD2?
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No such thing as eol for a Nexus.

AmericanCon said:
No such thing as eol for a Nexus.
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Nexus One is the closest thing to it.
But stores not selling it is not the same as EOL.
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[Q] What mobile phone comes close to the Nexus family

I have owned all of the Nexus phones. The Nexus One, the Nexus S and now the Galaxy Nexus. Google doesn't sell the Nexus 4 phone in the Netherlands but there is a webshop in the Netherlands that sells imports. They sell it for EUR 550. A bit much if you ask me. Because I'm buying it with a subscription I don't have to pay the whole EUR 550 but something like a 100 euros.
So my question is: What phone could I buy instead that comes close to the Nexus 4 in regard to these points:
Timely updates
"Vanilla" Android experience
Ability to unlock without too much hassle
Or should I just give up and just pay the high price anyway...

None. The Nexus 4 is in a class of its own.
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Surprising that you ask this. Especially after using the whole line of Nexus devices.
None of the phones will come half as close to the Nexus in terms of the points mentioned by you.
However in terms of other specifications, I think the Galaxy S3 or HTC One X should be the closest.
And do you feel the Nexus 4 is really that big of an upgrade over the GNex? If you were getting it at the price offered on Play Store, then fine. But for an overpriced Nexus 4, I'd suggest stick with the GNex.
Just my 2cents to save a few of yours.
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if you were "having" to stray away from the nexus line i'd just say go note2 and gs3(or hold out for gs4) i hear aosp is still a great resource.

I had a Samsung Galaxy i7500 and was very annoyed by the quality of the firmware. I had a girflriend with a Samsing Galaxy S with all kinds of annoying features. (I am talking about the phone here) She lost all her contacts. The default for that device was to NOT store the contacts in the cloud but backup with that POS software called Kies. Okay, you get the point, I don't like Samsung software...
The HTC One X sounds like a good deal. But it still costs me around EUR 50 and I would rather pay EUR 100 for a LG Nexus 4
After reading all your comments and thinking about it I think I should stick with a nexus device. I wouldn't mind staying on my GNex but In my case I'm getting a subscription with a phone so I think I'll make someone else happy with my GNex. I think the EUR 50 difference is worth spending it for the LG Nexus 4. And if I'm satisfied I could also sell my GNex to get my EUR 100 back.

Check out Asus Padfone 2, it's not far from AOSP from the little i've seen it.

Herman76 said:
Check out Asus Padfone 2, it's not far from AOSP from the little i've seen it.
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I have an Asus TF300T and it's almost the same as AOSP. I love it. And they are fast with updates. So I think Asus Android devices are pretty great!
But for the Asus Padfone 2 I have to pay 425 euros!

starquake64 said:
I have an Asus TF300T and it's almost the same as AOSP. I love it. And they are fast with updates. So I think Asus Android devices are pretty great!
But for the Asus Padfone 2 I have to pay 425 euros!
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With or without the tab? And is it the 64GB version?
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Having owned several Asus Tablets, I KNOW that they are on top of their game with software updates. When I owned the first Transformer, we got MORE updates then the Xoom (Google Tablet) and were days behind the Xoom's Android software updates.
Basically saying that Asus is baller when it comes to techies since most of their whole company is based around guys like us who tinker and build. I never owned a PadPhone but heard it is really nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-k7FpVw9dQ
Update: The white one looks very sexy!
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Another webshop started selling the Nexus and the price just dropped 100 euros which means I don't have to pay extra. My renewal is on the 10th of March. Let's hope it doesn't rise again!

My Nexus 4 came in this morning. I love it! The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was a great phone. And this one is even better. I love the screen, it's really pretty. I love how the sides of the left and right edges of the screen are rounded. I think it's a bit prettier than the Galaxy Nexus. Had no problems with the touch screen sensitivity as I read on the internet.
I'm very happy with my Nexus 4. Thanks for your opinion!

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My Nexus 4 came in this morning. I love it! The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was a great phone. And this one is even better. I love the screen, it's really pretty. I love how the sides of the left and right edges of the screen are rounded. I think it's a bit prettier than the Galaxy Nexus. Had no problems with the touch screen sensitivity as I read on the internet.
I'm very happy with my Nexus 4. Thanks for your opinion!
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Congratulations.. Enjoy the Nexus 4.

Anyone jumping to Nexus 5?

Hello!
So now that Nexus 5 is officially available...anyone jumping ship :laugh:
I am thinking but the bigger battery(also replaceable) and bigger screen are making me think twice.
Things going for Nexus 5 are the "updates" ....so thinking and waiting for reviews...
I don't care much for the faster hardware as i usually don't play games much and 16 GB would be enough for me as my usage never exceeds 5 GB.
p.s. just thinking loud and sharing my thoughts ...please don't go ballistic on me

cynosure4sure said:
Hello!
So now that Nexus 5 is officially available...anyone jumping ship :laugh:
I am thinking but the bigger battery(also replaceable) and bigger screen are making me think twice.
Things going for Nexus 5 are the "updates" ....so thinking and waiting for reviews...
I don't care much for the faster hardware as i usually don't play games much and 16 GB would be enough for me as my usage never exceeds 5 GB.
p.s. just thinking loud and sharing my thoughts ...please don't go ballistic on me
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I doubt that I will. There's just not a compelling enough reason, and I bought my LG OG Pro with all it's features and 32GB internal memory, etc. for far less than the N5 16GB model!
No, it's nice, but not worth it.

Nope.. Let's see when Nexus 6 is released.. For now OG Pro is perfect for me.

Dat 5.5" screen + 32gb internal + external SD slot is what's keeping me from the Nexus 5.. Same as with the Nexus 4 and LGOG. My internal is half full and about half of my 64gb card is half full so I definitely need the storage space lol.
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I'm staying with the pro for now. I'm eager to try kitKat but I'm sure we will see some roms before long so I'm gonna stay with this beast for now. I love screen size removable battery SD card and battery size.
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I think it's worth it. Given that it has the latest Android version, the latest proc. The camera has OIS. And the dev community for Nexus devices is huge.
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yes i agree the dev support will be no doubt huge......actually i have another motivation as well....
i have the Korean version F240K so dev support for it is very low for it....but what can i do i live in Korea :silly:
mostly i am waiting for battery tests as 2300mAh is small....or maybe LG OG Pro's replaceable battery spoiled me :angel:

Just buy a great powerbank, and you're good to go.
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5 in screen can't do it to small 5.5 is perfect
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I have the F420L, and it makes me sad that there are very few developers working on the OGP and fewer still want anything to do with the F420 variants. The Nexus 5 has great software support from google and the dev community, but its hardware isn't that much better than the OGP to justify purchasing it right away.

Not really. Had my white (unbranded) OGP for only a month and loving it (looks and speed). The N5 just looks too plain for my taste and in white it doesn't look any better; Zebra complex.
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N4 same rear pattern as my OGP with the non-branded batter cover

Obviously just can't tolerate LG's late updates.

I really do miss the various roms I had on my S4. In addition, some kernels allow you to have 2 roms installed!
Mainly I miss development, and I sorta like how it looks (N5).
I am planning on buying one, then I will sell whatever I don't like :angel:

Would get an N5 if I didn't get the G Pro recently. I was coming from an Nexus 4. The 2300 battery might be an issue on the Nexus 5.
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The OGPro has too many advantages and like the others above will pass on the Nexus 5. I love my OGPro!
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Well, I took G Pro for his big screen, perfect for watching tvshows and movies... so my answer is : no
Micro-SD slot is mandatory for me, or at least, 64gb internal memory !

I finally received my LG Optimus G Pro today, so all my previous comments have been based on speculation. I finally have had the chance to really use the device.
While I did enjoy the stock UI more than I anticipated, I ended up with CyanogenMod installed, which is what I had planned to do with the device. Coming from AMOLED devices in the past, I am extremely impressed with the LG's screen. I much prefer it, so for me, IPS is my new default standard. The color is far more balanced and reading on it (which I do quite a lot of) isn't as taxing on the eyes.
The sum of its parts makes the LG OG Pro the unsung gem in the smartphone world, IMO. I'm extremely pleased that I sold my S4 and even with the extras, such as the AT&T case that activates the phone when flipped open and sleeps the screen when closed (works fine on CM, btw) a dual USB car charger and some screen protectors, I still have $150 left over from the sale of my S4, and I doubled my internal storage capacity in the process.
If this device had a fully unlockable bootloader, I don't think I'd ever sell it. The S4 has cheap plastic trim, but it looks to me like the OG Pro has real metal. The camera shutter and flash works faster on the OG Pro than the S4.
All in all, there's not much compelling me to look at the N5. It costs more and gives me less of what I wanted.

Actually in my opinion there is no reason to jump to Nexus 5 until Dev support continues for this phone....saying that anyone has any estimates/predictions as how long will Cyanogen support will continue foe this nice phone? :highfive:

cynosure4sure said:
Actually in my opinion there is no reason to jump to Nexus 5 until Dev support continues for this phone....saying that anyone has any estimates/predictions as how long will Cyanogen support will continue foe this nice phone? :highfive:
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I don't see any reason why it would stop being supported. With Loki, we can continue to work around the bootloader, so I don't see any problem with future development, but there may be a major change in something that screws that up. If/when the bootloader is patched to prevent the Loki exploit from working, and if the bootloader is tied to major functions on the device, as it is in Samdung's S4, then we could have a problem.

Petition for Official Android Kitkat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus (GSM, SPRINT, VERIZON)

Dear Galaxy Nexus users,
Do you want official Kitkat 4.4? Then make sure to like this FB-page and sign the petition!
https://www.facebook.com/wewantkitkat
Thank you guys!

Not to be a buzz kill or anything but liking a Facebook page is definitely not going to get us kitkat Google made there final decision and no amount of likes is going to change that
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Not to be a buzz kill or anything but liking a Facebook page is definitely not going to get us kitkat Google made there final decision and no amount of likes is going to change that
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Yeah, its kind of like this...
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Yeah posts like these make me lose a little more faith in people every day
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Dont Like the page.
Fake.

Not liking the page because the thread title was misleading.

I was expecting it honestly
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...at least you should add "PETITION FOR" to the title :thumbdown:
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No longer supporting devices past 18 months, pretty simple idea.

It would have been good if Google made a demonstration of how Kitkat is capable with the lower end device, e.g. Gnex or the NexS.

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It would have been good if Google made a demonstration of how Kitkat is capable with the lower end device, e.g. Gnex or the NexS.
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This. How can they claim as has been written that it makes lower end devices work faster if they don't make it available for any of them?

xMoment said:
This. How can they claim as has been written that it makes lower end devices work faster if they don't make it available for any of them?
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Really? Cmon man you know damn well the developer community is now and has always been an important part of Android. The community will do just fine without Google providing anymore.

no petition on this planet will change google rules. 18mth... end of support.

IFLATLINEI said:
Really? Cmon man you know damn well the developer community is now and has always been an important part of Android. The community will do just fine without Google providing anymore.
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I have the feeling this will be the case for awhile. However, like models in the past that have been EOL'd the developer community tends to dwindle as they move to a newer device so I'm thinking in about a year it will be time to move away from the GN, maybe...

illegalsmile said:
I have the feeling this will be the case for awhile. However, like models in the past that have been EOL'd the developer community tends to dwindle as they move to a newer device so I'm thinking in about a year it will be time to move away from the GN, maybe...
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I agree. I think it will be sooner than later though as most the developers of the ROMs I have been using all have their nexus 5's. Not sure what to do myself as I'm unlimited Verizon and no newer nexus device available yet.
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tshelby73 said:
I agree. I think it will be sooner than later though as most the developers of the ROMs I have been using all have their nexus 5's. Not sure what to do myself as I'm unlimited Verizon and no newer nexus device available yet.
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I fear that is the case already. I am not seeing a lot of movement on the 4.4 ROMs out there, the threads are not that active, and it appears that hardware (GPU) is blocking real progress in allowing 4.4 to be stable on the GNex. I rolled back to CM 10.1.3 which has been rock-stable with good battery life and strong signal for now, and am under contract until June before I can upgrade without penalty.

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I fear that is the case already. I am not seeing a lot of movement on the 4.4 ROMs out there, the threads are not that active, and it appears that hardware (GPU) is blocking real progress in allowing 4.4 to be stable on the GNex. I rolled back to CM 10.1.3 which has been rock-stable with good battery life and strong signal for now, and am under contract until June before I can upgrade without penalty.
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Or you could be patient... Its not even a month old chill...
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Or you could be patient... Its not even a month old chill...
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Point taken, but my comment wasn't about patience, it was about volume. The traffic just appears to be less than in the heady days of JB, for instance. Fewer posts IMHO means more people moving to other devices. I hope I'm wrong!

#Likehunters

MarcusBremen said:
no petition on this planet will change google rules. 18mth... end of support.
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This
While KitKat is said to be able to run on lower-spec devices, this doesn't mean every phone ever made will begin to receive updates, nexus or otherwise. Will the HTC Hero receive KitKat? What about the Evo 4G? It has 512mb ram, and should run it just fine. This update was created to get rid of Gingerbread from the entry level devices being sold in developing countries.