Hello all. Kinda combining 2 different topics/questions into one thread. I just have a couple of questions regarding the Nexus 7 (2nd gen):
1. I've never bought a tablet before but if I understand correctly, there's a Google Nexus 7 and an Asus Nexus 7. They are the same tablet correct (I've noticed that even on the Asus ones, it still has "Nexus" on the back)? Is there a benefit of buying the 7 from Google as opposed to Asus?
2. For anyone who plays emulators, what are your recommendations? I plan on playing only the major systems (GBA, DS, Playstation, PS2 (if it exists) and maybe trying out the Dolphin GC/Wii emulator for a bit). Since most SNES games have been ported over, I won't really bother with that one.
Thanks!!
1. The Nexus 7 is manufactured by Asus but branded by Google. There aren't two different models, it would just be that the store you're looking at is incorrectly branding it as the "Asus Nexus 7." Based on the retailers linked from the official page you have:
Nexus 7 (this is on the Play Store so it makes sense that they don't brand it as Google there)
Google Nexus 7
Nexus 7 From Google
Google Nexus 7 By Asus
Just make sure you're looking at the Nexus 7 2013 model and not the 2012 model. It could be branded as the "FHD" model as well. If you're in a country where it can be purchased from the Play Store I really recommend buying it there. If you buy it from the Play Store Google will handle any warranty claims and will usually replace it for a new device in the first year if a defect pops up. If you buy it from anywhere else you have to deal with Asus service which can be slow.
2. Although I really, really hate the idea of paying for an emulator, the *.emu emulators by Robert Broglia are by far the best I've found. Retroarch is decent (though mysteriously absent from the Play Store recently) but the touch controls on the .emu emulators are much more precise. I've also run into far fewer bugs in general with gba.emu/gbc.emu/nes.emu. Snes9x EX+ is a free SNES emulator made by the same guy, so it will show you the interface and everything. And to say that every worthwhile SNES game is ported to Android is a bit ridiculous
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1. The Nexus 7 is manufactured by Asus but branded by Google. There aren't two different models, it would just be that the store you're looking at is incorrectly branding it as the "Asus Nexus 7." Based on the retailers linked from the official page you have:
Nexus 7 (this is on the Play Store so it makes sense that they don't brand it as Google there)
Google Nexus 7
Nexus 7 From Google
Google Nexus 7 By Asus
Just make sure you're looking at the Nexus 7 2013 model and not the 2012 model. It could be branded as the "FHD" model as well. If you're in a country where it can be purchased from the Play Store I really recommend buying it there. If you buy it from the Play Store Google will handle any warranty claims and will usually replace it for a new device in the first year if a defect pops up. If you buy it from anywhere else you have to deal with Asus service which can be slow.
2. Although I really, really hate the idea of paying for an emulator, the *.emu emulators by Robert Broglia are by far the best I've found. Retroarch is decent (though mysteriously absent from the Play Store recently) but the touch controls on the .emu emulators are much more precise. I've also run into far fewer bugs in general with gba.emu/gbc.emu/nes.emu. Snes9x EX+ is a free SNES emulator made by the same guy, so it will show you the interface and everything. And to say that every worthwhile SNES game is ported to Android is a bit ridiculous
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Thanks!!! Quick and to the point. The Google/Asus makes sense. I've heard about Retroarch but never tried them, but I'll take your advice on the .emu emulators. Thanks again!
Edit: Forgot to ask. So is it safe to assume that the most recent emulators (in terms of most recent game consoles) for andoird would be Drastric (Nintendo DS) and PPSSPP (PSP Emulator)? I havent looked much at PPSSPP yet but Drastric seems compatible with most of the games.
Yeah, I think someone is working on a Wii emulator but it doesn't seem to be very functional yet. Everything PSX and earlier (that's a fairly popular system and attracted enough developer attention) should work.
Edit: And yeah, the DS/PSP emulators are definitely coming along.
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Now that i've read the article, i'm wondering who's the most genious person around who actually owns a Defy and want's to go show his talent to all the Defy users on XDA and prove that he's the one by actually releasing gingerbread.sbf
In addition to the announcement of PSP2, Sony also introduced the “Playstation Suite“, a new cross-device game platform, which will bring the Playstation 1 games to Android phones and tablets. We have been hearing the rumors of Playstation phone (which is now called SE Xperia Play), so this announcement almost proves the existence of PSP phone.
Sony said that Playstation Suite will be launched by year-end along with PSP2 for Android and the users will be able to buy the game titles through the integrated Playstation Store. This is a great news for Android (and Google), as they now have a serious gaming platform to counter Apple.
You are required to be running Android 2.3 at-least for Playstation suite to work. As mentioned before, the game titles available for now are ported from Playstation One. Some popular ones like Wild Arms , Cool Boarders and Syphon Filter were demoed at the press meet today. It is pretty much clear that Playstation Suite will make use of touchscreen controls, but we need to wait and see how the Playstation branded phone, Xperia Play pans out to be. For that we need to wait for MWC 2011.
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Gingerbread and Sony-Suite would be very great, but first as far as I know we need to unlock the Bootloader.
But I think anyone will get it
It doesn't matter whether the Defy gets 2.3 or not it won't be compatible with the games.
Even the other new SE handsets like the Neo and Arc won't be able to play the Playstation games as they lack the physical controls the Play will have - and that's what an SE employee told me at a launch event for the new models.
I would definitely doubt the ability of the Defy(No physical buttons) to play SE's titles the way they are meant to be played.
That being said, if they use touch screen technology to provide controls to phones outside of the SE family, it might be a lot of fun.
I think you could overcome this problem with ie. a bluetooth keyboard.
But what about the missing graphic chip?
The other option is to start playing PS1 games right now with FPSE App from market with touchsccreen controls!
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That being said, if they use touch screen technology to provide controls to phones outside of the SE family, it might be a lot of fun.
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They won't.
As I said, they're not looking to even offer the ability to play the games on their own touchscreen-only handsets. Why would they want to give their competitors a step up?
Also, there'll be some DRM system in place in the Android Playstation store, so only handsets Sony/SE choose to certify will be able to play the games.
Meaning the bluetooth keyboard idea is a no-go - plus, to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any bluetooth keyboards out there with dual touch-sensitive pads designed to emulate joysticks.
Playing those games with a phone that only has two touch points would in my opinion be a surefire funstopper anyway.
So no... I am not very disappointed over this. Sorry!
/Jimmy
Ok when I bought my nexus, I was aware of the issues regarding the fragmentation of the Android market, which results in compatability of most games, and wasn't expecting to use the device as a gaming unit anyway, as I have an ipod touch, just for gaming. But was out on research this weekend and didn't carry my ipod, and due to the bad weather in England, ended up staying longer, were we was, so I read an article that stated that virtua tennis by Sega,which was previously only exclusive to Sega, was now available for other android devices, so bearing in mind this phone is Google, s own baby, fired android market or play, as it's now called, and you can imagine my surprise when I was met with "app not compatible with your phone ", seriously, what chance do other phones have if the Google phone itself has compatibility issues with some games unbelievable to say the least. So that means, the developers loose out as I cannot purchase the app, and this is were IOS is stronger, on gaming only, otherwise android is better everything else, I wish Google would sort this out.
It's up to the app developer to make updates for in this case ICS and higher resolution. ICS is still fairly young so not all developers have updated or will ever update their apps for new versions.
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ICS will slowly work out problems such as this. The problem is that not everything that came before ICS will make the transition. The other problem is that ICS is too new. Aside from the Nexus users, ICS barely exists. Updates are only now rolling out for certain phones.
It's frustrating now, but hopefully in the future things will become better. Google is working hard at this. They've already started releasing better tools to devs.
If the app shows up on Google Play on your phone then it sure should be compatible or it would not be there. Did you change your screen density? That is one thing that will give you an app incompatability issue in the market.
I have always wanted an Android gaming handheld. At first I was looking at the generic chinese handhelds to play on, but I decided against it (too many problems,poor quality).Then I remembered about the Xperia Play.
I want to play N64, GBA, SNES (for sure). And the occasional 3D android game eg. Frisbee Forever, Cut the Rope, Fruit Ninja, GTA III. The device I currently have is the Epic 4G Touch rooted and overclocked. But touchscreen emulators are terrible.
Is going from the Galaxy SII to the Xperia Play terrible? I will just be using the phone for the gaming functions, and as a internet device (wifi only). I am hoping although the Play is single core, it will be as smooth as my Galaxy. Thank you!!
It won't be as smooth as a dual core device, but you can run emulators up to ps1 (almost) flawlessly. For me, GTA III was a tiny bit laggy, but still playable.
As far as the u.i goes, you won't get GalaxySII smoothness or responsiveness, however you wont find a better emulation machine than the xperia play
Especially for very old systems like nes,snes, gameboy colour, sega, neogeo. There is an emulator for everything and they all run flawlessly on the play with the button (ps1 can be a bit flaky).
Thanks for your reply guys. PS1 emulation is something I'm not that interested in so that is not a worry. I have one more question though.
How do the analog sticks feel? I will be going to the store later today or in the week to try them out myself, but I just was wondering how you guys liked them?
If you want to play games, and have a cellphone in the same device, for sure, buy the Xperia Play. I came from a Optimus 2X, that isnt a Galaxy SII at all, but its a powerfull dual core too, and i dont regret. Xperia Play is a single core, but its the most powerfull one that I've have already seen, and runs smoothly the most of HD games. How its already saiyd in a above post, GTA III really get a bit of lag, but not much. Can be sure, the physical gamepad make a big diference. About the analogical touchpad, isnt so good to handle as a true analogical stick, but its better than nothing.
If you get an Xperia Play, I hardly recomend you to root and install DroidSail Super App2SD or a similar, because the 200mb of internal memory are ridiculous for a gaming device, and this app allows you to pass all the apps to sd card.
I wanted to play emulators too and i bought a chinese android console, and then i just read that the xperia play was better in emus and better quality and i sold the chinese console and bought an CDMA Xperia play to use as a console.
Then i loved it so much i sold my blackberry and my CDMA xperia play and bought a GSM xperia play and i now have all i want in my pocket. (phone, camera, divxplayer, console, mp3 player, tablet).
i think you wont regret it, if you only want it as a portable device, without cell phone recomend a r800a since its cheaper than the r800i
i use firmware 2.3.4 58, great batery life, last all day even if i msg a lot and play like 2 hours in the day. (on 2g, no wifi, no bluetooth or gps)
My answer may be biased since I don't like having to rub touch devices too long, but the analog touchpad is pretty frustrating at times. You basically tilt your thumbs in the direction you want them to go. Maybe you can adapt to it if you're used to using touchscreen analog in Android games, but for me they're frustrating.
No, you should not get the Play. The phone is obsolete already, there are no future updates expected from Sony, some of the best devs are leaving for other phones, official ICS was denied to us and the community is quickly dwindling.
If you want a great gaming device, get a handheld designed for that purpose. If you want an awesome phone, better take a look at what is being released in the near future, and stay away from Sony. By all means, don't waste your money on a phone that is already a year and a half old.
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No, you should not get the Play. The phone is obsolete already, there are no future updates expected from Sony, some of the best devs are leaving for other phones, official ICS was denied to us and the community is quickly dwindling.
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You have a point there, even though Sony promised some more GB updates.
I heard the PSP 3000 has the ability to run emulators too, so you might want to look into that.
Well, I went to the Verizon store. I installed N64oid on the Play. And quite frankly, I hated it. The analogs sticks are just not for me.
I have decided to just buy the Yinlips YDPG18. looks like a PS Vita, but runs Android. Thanks for all your help!
Compared to my old phone, a Motorola Atrix 4G (nvidia tegra dual core), the sony xperia play feels faster, smoother, and higher quality phone. I can't explain it, and the fact that you have a real joystick to play real games is an added icing.
Having said that, you should not pay more than $100 US for a nice used one. I am looking at you Amazon sellers, trying to sell an R 800i for $300, what ripoffs!
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Anyone tried it out yet, or would be willing to try it out, or think it will work with the n7? If so, could this be the best option(?) for media for those with the 8gb model. I plan on trying it out when I get mine.
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Yeah, I'm very interested in this also. Another reason I am not too worried about being limited to 8GB. It would be great if someone who has access to a Nexus 7 could test this out and share their experience with it, if not I will probably just buy it and check it out myself when I finally get mine. I'm interested to see how well it works for basic tasks, gaming, and watching videos/movies. My ultimate dream would be to stream my Xbox 360 games to a tablet like this, and play something like MW3 on the go.
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Yeah, I'm very interested in this also. Another reason I am not too worried about being limited to 8GB. It would be great if someone who has access to a Nexus 7 could test this out and share their experience with it, if not I will probably just buy it and check it out myself when I finally get mine. I'm interested to see how well it works for basic tasks, gaming, and watching videos/movies. My ultimate dream would be to stream my Xbox 360 games to a tablet like this, and play something like MW3 on the go.
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I agree.. I downloaded PLEX and it's been keeping me looking for more.. I wonder if Splashtop HD will support JB and how long it will be discounted 8.99 (usually 19.99) in the play store.. I hope until the n7 delivers
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you can delete this thread..there is a more in depth thread about the same app..
Splash top HD is listed as not compatible with the nexus 7 but the regular splash top is. Also there's a splash top two coming out for android soon. I think I will get this with my credit but I want the kinks to be worked out first.
Anyone try it already?
I'll try loading up my backup from my tab when its comes next week
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What's the difference between the HD version and the regular version? I can't really find anything on their website or from Play Store (other than "optimization" for Android 3.x or 4.x tablets).
As far as I can tell the regular splash top is designed for smaller screens.
I wouldn't mind buying this as long as it is still on sale when they have made it compatible
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Afaik hd users will be getting free lifetime subscription to the new version when it comes out (at least they are doing that for ipad people). I got an email about it since I own the standard version. Seems like otherwise it's like 1.99 for the app and 9 dollars a year, which still isn't terrible.
i got the free version from amazon when it was the free app of the day!! cant wait to try it out
That's what I have. It works well and looks good to me streaming movies. That's one reason I was wondering what the HD added.
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The non hd version is going to be upgraded to version 2
I have just bought it as it works on my phone as well
Will test it on the n7 later on
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I just bought the THD version and I can't seem to get it to work on my Nexus 7. The regular HD version works great though. I emailed them regarding this. Anyone else tried the THD version?
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I just bought the THD version and I can't seem to get it to work on my Nexus 7. The regular HD version works great though. I emailed them regarding this. Anyone else tried the THD version?
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I was curious to try it out but the hd version doesn't even show up in the play store on my n7
The regular version seems to work, THD gives me a black screen when trying to remote connect, I'm going to email support and see if there is something in the works, because I am unsure if I need to grab the THD version or the HD.
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The regular version seems to work, THD gives me a black screen when trying to remote connect, I'm going to email support and see if there is something in the works, because I am unsure if I need to grab the THD version or the HD.
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I'm also getting a black screen on my Nexus 7. It is connected because touches on the nexus translate to the comp, it's just not displaying the video on the Nexus screen.
I'd love for them to get the THD version working. Playing big PC games on smaller devices was always one of the most exciting potentials of Splashtop, and the fact that they support bluetooth controllers and special screen overlays in the THD version is awesome.
It's especially silly because the Tegra tablets they made this version for probably didn't sell at all, but here's the Nexus, which has the potential to sell a whole lot and it doesn't work on it. =(
If anyone gets a response from Splashtop please post it here.
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I'm also getting a black screen on my Nexus 7. It is connected because touches on the nexus translate to the comp, it's just not displaying the video on the Nexus screen.
I'd love for them to get the THD version working. Playing big PC games on smaller devices was always one of the most exciting potentials of Splashtop, and the fact that they support bluetooth controllers and special screen overlays in the THD version is awesome.
It's especially silly because the Tegra tablets they made this version for probably didn't sell at all, but here's the Nexus, which has the potential to sell a whole lot and it doesn't work on it. =(
If anyone gets a response from Splashtop please post it here.
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I had emailed Splashtop about the fact that the Anywhere access for free is available for any of the Splashtop "vets", they said that the new feature is unavailable currently for Android, however "we will provide the original SPlashtop Android user the free AAP feature. Please stay tuned, it's coming soon!"
So I guess this means that v2 for HD will be compatible w/the N7? Because it's still listed as incompatible as of this posting...
so should i buy hd now or wait to its compatible? because i already have the normal splashtop from amazon.
With the quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram it seems to hold up pretty good as a dedicated gaming tablet. What do you all think of the gaming potential of this little machine?
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I played all HD games that exist in play store!
All games played excellent on high graphic
GTA SA
Call of duty
Fifa 14
Anomaly 2
Backstab
MC 4
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perfect for gaming
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With the quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram it seems to hold up pretty good as a dedicated gaming tablet. What do you all think of the gaming potential of this little machine?
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try ppsspp and play almost all your old psp games.so if it runs like a psp that's basically a portable gaming console...at least for me...even plays at higher resolutions....connect a joypad...but I try to keep gaming to a minimum...as in most lithium batteries, it will really push out the charge cycles and the battery is not replacable...still excellent bat life for me at least....
I think it's one of the best tablets on the market.
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I think it's one of the best tablets on the market.
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This! All Games i have are Smooth to play without laggs or something similar.
Games i tested:
GTA: San Andreas
GTA: Vice City
Ravensword2
NOVA 3
Order & Chaos
and a bunch of games like Final Fantasy (3 - 5), EKO online, Iruna Online, world of goo etc
All this Games are playable on the highest settings.
Its one of the higher spec tablets (if not the highest spec tablet in the "smaller" 7 to 8" form factor), so obviously its going to hold its own with games for some time to come.
Tablet is great, but the battery should be better.
galaxy note 3 not seen as a tablet on playstore?
So being the proud owner of samsung galaxy S3 I found my self jealous of my friend being able to play Magic the gathering duels of the planeswalkers 2014 on his samsung galaxy tab 7 everywhere i read that the game is only compatible in tablets and thought hey I can do the same so purchased the slightly larger screen and better spec Galaxy Note 8.0 tablet on craigslist brand new, quickly destroyed the box and jumped to the play store ready to get my beast on! And surprice surprice! "Your device is not compatible" irritating would be how I would describe my current status if some one can shed some light as of how to over come this aweful situation im not trying to illegally obtain the game I want to pay for it and play it be able to get addons and updates please help and thanks in advance.
Model number GT-N5110 android 4.2.2
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So being the proud owner of samsung galaxy S3 I found my self jealous of my friend being able to play Magic the gathering duels of the planeswalkers 2014 on his samsung galaxy tab 7 everywhere i read that the game is only compatible in tablets and thought hey I can do the same so purchased the slightly larger screen and better spec Galaxy Note 8.0 tablet on craigslist brand new, quickly destroyed the box and jumped to the play store ready to get my beast on! And surprice surprice! "Your device is not compatible" irritating would be how I would describe my current status if some one can shed some light as of how to over come this aweful situation im not trying to illegally obtain the game I want to pay for it and play it be able to get addons and updates please help and thanks in advance.
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I think you can unlock all apps/games in the app store (even those that are not compatible with your device) by installing xposed framework and the appropriate module using wanam xposed or xblast from the play store. Not 100% sure but worth a look unless someone else can shed some light or suggest something else.