Will an OTA update restore my kernel to stock? I know it wipes the recovery. just wondering
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ih8legal said:
Will an OTA update restore my kernel to stock? I know it wipes the recovery. just wondering
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It would if it could run successfully, but it won't because the ota will likely fail if you have a different kernel and thus not install anything at all.
That is with 90% of the OTAs that are patch format. For some major upgrades they ship the OTA as a complete upgrade, in which case it would overwrite your existing kernel.
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I've rooted my CDMA Nexus and flashed to the leaked stock 4.0.4 update.
Will it be possible to update at all using normal methods or will I need to flash via rootkit again?
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Has this already been answered?
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NinjaMic said:
I've rooted my CDMA Nexus and flashed to the leaked stock 4.0.4 update.
Will it be possible to update at all using normal methods or will I need to flash via rootkit again?
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Root is no problem. A non Stock recovery is, as well as a custom ROM. But you can always flash it manualy in stead of doing through the OTA process.
Diger36 said:
Root is no problem. A non Stock recovery is, as well as a custom ROM. But you can always flash it manualy in stead of doing through the OTA process.
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Ah OK. Thanks!
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I'm a real noob at this but read up as much as I can.
I rooted my T-mo GS3 using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735561
with CWM.
Now I want to have the update. I'm assuming I can unroot my phone and then do the OTA update, but what methods are available to root the phone after the OTA update? My wife also has one of these phones, and has already done the OTA, but hasn't rooted her phone yet, so I really need this info for both phones. Could I use this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687 to root both our phones? Do I need to unroot and reset the flash counter on my rooted phone before doing that? Does that update included the latest radio update for these phones?
Thanks!
I'm in the same situation as you. And, this is the first time I root my phone.
I read a lot on the forum but it's kind of confuse me.
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Are you talking about the official ota update or the leaked jb patch?
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chrisram88 said:
Are you talking about the official ota update or the leaked jb patch?
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he mentioned OTA, so it should be the recent Tmo update.
To OP: I know 1 thing that the radio fix is not included in the OTA update
rookiegenius said:
he mentioned OTA, so it should be the recent Tmo update.
To OP: I know 1 thing that the radio fix is not included in the OTA update
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True... Yea you can root with the no trip method. It's stock rom with root so it won't trip count. After that download Rom Manager and add cwm thru there or goo app for twrp recovery
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But, if i already root my phone with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1735561 can i still get the OTA update? This is for future reference, let's say the official JB. (i already have the recent OTA t mobile update before i rooted my phone)
Thanks for your help.
leesanhua said:
But, if i already root my phone with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1735561 can i still get the OTA update? This is for future reference, let's say the official JB. (i already have the recent OTA t mobile update before i rooted my phone)
Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure. It might work or not maybe even thru Kies. Just depends cuz some were able to update last ota with no problems. I know that if you have custom recovery the OTA will fail unless you have stock recovery with root and use voodoo root keeper to try and keep root. The easiest way will be Odin back to stock and apply jb ota once released then root it back once someone confirms a method or wait till a dev releases a full rom.
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Well, I only rooted the phone and did not do anything else on it yet. So, I guess I don't need to use ordin to go back stock? The, I should be able to do the OTA?
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leesanhua said:
Well, I only rooted the phone and did not do anything else on it yet. So, I guess I don't need to use ordin to go back stock? The, I should be able to do the OTA?
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Yea let's just play the waiting game lol
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as long as you have the stock recovery on your phone and not cwm or twrp, you can get an ota. to be safe, if you ota root keeper in the market youll even keep root
mikeyinid said:
as long as you have the stock recovery on your phone and not cwm or twrp, you can get an ota. to be safe, if you ota root keeper in the market youll even keep root
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How do I know if I have stock recovery but not the cwm or twrp?
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You can flash it with Odin. It's pretty easy to find
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rookiegenius said:
he mentioned OTA, so it should be the recent Tmo update.
To OP: I know 1 thing that the radio fix is not included in the OTA update
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Is the radio fix in the Kies version of the update?
chrisram88 said:
True... Yea you can root with the no trip method. It's stock rom with root so it won't trip count. After that download Rom Manager and add cwm thru there or goo app for twrp recovery
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Do you have a link for that method? Does that method work after the update?
Thanks!
infectedspam said:
Do you have a link for that method? Does that method work after the update?
Thanks!
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Here is the link to the no trip method. It was confirmed in the thread that it worked with latest update installed . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
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I was rooted on the previous stock software. Installed the update via Kies on my windows machine, then re-rooted using this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682
Everything worked perfectly.
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Is the radio fix in the Kies version of the
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You mentioned a radio 'fix'. But its not a fix that I am aware of. Just an update. As long as you update via odin or kies with the official ota or firmware you will get the FULL update. This means other partitions will receive patches as well. If you update only by flashing a rooted rom using cwm or twrp you will NOT get the updates to the other partitions, including the radio. (You can flash the radio separately of course but would still not get the updates to other partitions).
You can preserve root using the ota rootkeeper, or after updating, reroot using another method.
My recommendation is to update via kies or odin with official firmware and then reroot. (Using ota rootkeeper is up to you).
Hope this helps clear some things up a little for you guys.
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Thanks for all the help. I'll try to give it a shot after the weekend and see what happens!
I am rooted and received the OTA notification could I do the update without un-rooting or should I un-root using Wug?
Thanks
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Give us more details....
Which version are U? Only rooted or modded?
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If you are rooted then why would you want to update with ota?
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eqjunkie829 said:
If you are rooted then why would you want to update with ota?
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Presumably, if it keeps root like he is asking, it'd be quicker for him to accept the update on his phone than go to a computer, download the update and then install from there.
What I meant is that if he is rooted then he can flash any version of android on his phone and doesn't need to update with ota
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Rooted doesn't mean he has a custom recovery and can flash easily.
So in this case ota is easier.
And ota updates really are updates, which means you don't lose your data.
You can take the OTA. I took the update and didn't have to have stock recovery. I had to restore a backup of completely stock 4.1.1 because an audio mod was making the update fail. CWM also has a protect root option after the update and will allow you to switch back to stock recovery if you want.
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Hey guys, sorry if this is a noob question but I never had to do this with a stock ROM on a device lol. I am currently on the stock ROM with root and know that my device can no longer get OTAs. I was wondering if I could be able to temporarily unroot and be able to receive an update without having to revert to my old backup? Thanks!
More info: I did not root with motochopper, I flashed a root zip.
If you update to the new ota your will lose the ability to root again. There is a kernel update that isn't Mentioned
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MacTheRipperr said:
If you update to the new ota your will lose the ability to root again. There is a kernel update that isn't Mentioned
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Not true, you can just flash a older kernel that has the vulnerability. Until the android version is updated all the previous kernels will still work.
KillaHurtz said:
Not true, you can just flash a older kernel that has the vulnerability. Until the android version is updated all the previous kernels will still work.
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So you're saying that I can update via kies, flash the MDB kernel via odin, and regain root while being on the new build MDL?
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thachosenone said:
So you're saying that I can update via kies, flash the MDB kernel via odin, and regain root while being on the new build MDL?
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Yes.
At this moment I have a custom Rom and kernel on my nexus 7. Kitkat will be out soon, what is the best way to get ota for Kitkat? Flash back to original software? Where can I download that?
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Do you have a nandroid backup? This is very important!
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Yes, I have a 9-29 backup in my TWRP folder
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So.. What to do?
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Fraxon said:
So.. What to do?
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Simple, wait until it's actually announced and ready to download for your device. When 4.4 is announced, it may or may not be ready that very same day, so sit tight. You'll see enough news about it to know when it's ready.
I'll get an ota message even if I'm on a custom rom? And I can install that without any problems?
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Fraxon said:
I'll get an ota message even if I'm on a custom rom? And I can install that without any problems?
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No, when it's release and ready to download just go back to the stock rom, then there you'll get the OTA.
I personally will wait to download the img, restore the Nexus to 4.4 and just to try Kit Kat, then I'll just flash back to AICP, I'll wait then for 4.4 to get incorporated into custom ROMs.
I'm on stock ROM and stock recovery, but rooted + custom Kernel, does anyone know if I can receive the OTA?
Shu. said:
I'm on stock ROM and stock recovery, but rooted + custom Kernel, does anyone know if I can receive the OTA?
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probably not has to be stock recovery and non-rooted
Shu. said:
I'm on stock ROM and stock recovery, but rooted + custom Kernel, does anyone know if I can receive the OTA?
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No. You need stock recovery AND stock kernel.
RMarkwald said:
No. You need stock recovery AND stock kernel.
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Where should I get the stock kernel? I did not make a nandroid backup as I did not flash the recovery, I only used fastboot boot recovery.img
If I flash the stock google images, does it wipe the virtual sd content? or only my data? Thanks a lot for helping me out!
Shu. said:
Where should I get the stock kernel? I did not make a nandroid backup as I did not flash the recovery, I only used fastboot boot recovery.img
If I flash the stock google images, does it wipe the virtual sd content? or only my data? Thanks a lot for helping me out!
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You can get it from the stock images, just extract the boot.img and flash that via bootloader using fastboot. Same goes for stock recovery.