Hey guys, sorry if this is a noob question but I never had to do this with a stock ROM on a device lol. I am currently on the stock ROM with root and know that my device can no longer get OTAs. I was wondering if I could be able to temporarily unroot and be able to receive an update without having to revert to my old backup? Thanks!
More info: I did not root with motochopper, I flashed a root zip.
If you update to the new ota your will lose the ability to root again. There is a kernel update that isn't Mentioned
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MacTheRipperr said:
If you update to the new ota your will lose the ability to root again. There is a kernel update that isn't Mentioned
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Not true, you can just flash a older kernel that has the vulnerability. Until the android version is updated all the previous kernels will still work.
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Not true, you can just flash a older kernel that has the vulnerability. Until the android version is updated all the previous kernels will still work.
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So you're saying that I can update via kies, flash the MDB kernel via odin, and regain root while being on the new build MDL?
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thachosenone said:
So you're saying that I can update via kies, flash the MDB kernel via odin, and regain root while being on the new build MDL?
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Yes.
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Can someone please tell me how and where I can get the factory recovery file so that I can do the ATT OTA?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737848
Latest stock ROM can be found here. No need to do the ota.
mrhaley30705 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737848
Latest stock ROM can be found here. No need to do the ota.
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Will I lose root? Also will the latest Rom update my Imeisv to 5?
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Will I lose root? Also will the latest Rom update my Imeisv to 5?
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There is a root method that is non tripping for the latest rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
No need to worry about the flash counter. Triangle away will fix that. You just need root to use it.
I'm a real noob at this but read up as much as I can.
I rooted my T-mo GS3 using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735561
with CWM.
Now I want to have the update. I'm assuming I can unroot my phone and then do the OTA update, but what methods are available to root the phone after the OTA update? My wife also has one of these phones, and has already done the OTA, but hasn't rooted her phone yet, so I really need this info for both phones. Could I use this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687 to root both our phones? Do I need to unroot and reset the flash counter on my rooted phone before doing that? Does that update included the latest radio update for these phones?
Thanks!
I'm in the same situation as you. And, this is the first time I root my phone.
I read a lot on the forum but it's kind of confuse me.
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Are you talking about the official ota update or the leaked jb patch?
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chrisram88 said:
Are you talking about the official ota update or the leaked jb patch?
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he mentioned OTA, so it should be the recent Tmo update.
To OP: I know 1 thing that the radio fix is not included in the OTA update
rookiegenius said:
he mentioned OTA, so it should be the recent Tmo update.
To OP: I know 1 thing that the radio fix is not included in the OTA update
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True... Yea you can root with the no trip method. It's stock rom with root so it won't trip count. After that download Rom Manager and add cwm thru there or goo app for twrp recovery
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But, if i already root my phone with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1735561 can i still get the OTA update? This is for future reference, let's say the official JB. (i already have the recent OTA t mobile update before i rooted my phone)
Thanks for your help.
leesanhua said:
But, if i already root my phone with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1735561 can i still get the OTA update? This is for future reference, let's say the official JB. (i already have the recent OTA t mobile update before i rooted my phone)
Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure. It might work or not maybe even thru Kies. Just depends cuz some were able to update last ota with no problems. I know that if you have custom recovery the OTA will fail unless you have stock recovery with root and use voodoo root keeper to try and keep root. The easiest way will be Odin back to stock and apply jb ota once released then root it back once someone confirms a method or wait till a dev releases a full rom.
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Well, I only rooted the phone and did not do anything else on it yet. So, I guess I don't need to use ordin to go back stock? The, I should be able to do the OTA?
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leesanhua said:
Well, I only rooted the phone and did not do anything else on it yet. So, I guess I don't need to use ordin to go back stock? The, I should be able to do the OTA?
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Yea let's just play the waiting game lol
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as long as you have the stock recovery on your phone and not cwm or twrp, you can get an ota. to be safe, if you ota root keeper in the market youll even keep root
mikeyinid said:
as long as you have the stock recovery on your phone and not cwm or twrp, you can get an ota. to be safe, if you ota root keeper in the market youll even keep root
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How do I know if I have stock recovery but not the cwm or twrp?
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You can flash it with Odin. It's pretty easy to find
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he mentioned OTA, so it should be the recent Tmo update.
To OP: I know 1 thing that the radio fix is not included in the OTA update
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Is the radio fix in the Kies version of the update?
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True... Yea you can root with the no trip method. It's stock rom with root so it won't trip count. After that download Rom Manager and add cwm thru there or goo app for twrp recovery
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Do you have a link for that method? Does that method work after the update?
Thanks!
infectedspam said:
Do you have a link for that method? Does that method work after the update?
Thanks!
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Here is the link to the no trip method. It was confirmed in the thread that it worked with latest update installed . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
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I was rooted on the previous stock software. Installed the update via Kies on my windows machine, then re-rooted using this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682
Everything worked perfectly.
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Is the radio fix in the Kies version of the
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You mentioned a radio 'fix'. But its not a fix that I am aware of. Just an update. As long as you update via odin or kies with the official ota or firmware you will get the FULL update. This means other partitions will receive patches as well. If you update only by flashing a rooted rom using cwm or twrp you will NOT get the updates to the other partitions, including the radio. (You can flash the radio separately of course but would still not get the updates to other partitions).
You can preserve root using the ota rootkeeper, or after updating, reroot using another method.
My recommendation is to update via kies or odin with official firmware and then reroot. (Using ota rootkeeper is up to you).
Hope this helps clear some things up a little for you guys.
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Thanks for all the help. I'll try to give it a shot after the weekend and see what happens!
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I have rooted my Galaxy Note II and installed CWM for the recovery. I am also running a stock ROM. There is a new OTA update, and before I am going to do it, quick question: when I update, will I still have root access or will it break it somehow? I'm running the Stock 4.1.1
Flash stock recovery..so u can get ota then just root again..rooting takes 3 seconds
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twanskys204 said:
Flash stock recovery..so u can get ota then just root again..rooting takes 3 seconds
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Thank you
twanskys204 said:
Flash stock recovery..so u can get ota then just root again..rooting takes 3 seconds
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The update did not work for some reason. Is there anything else that would need to be changed in order for the update to work?
U have stock recovery?
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U have stock recovery?
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Yes I do.
K run triangle away.....flash stock rom again....factory reset then u should get it
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root retained throgh OTA
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Hello
I have rooted my Galaxy Note II and installed CWM for the recovery. I am also running a stock ROM. There is a new OTA update, and before I am going to do it, quick question: when I update, will I still have root access or will it break it somehow? I'm running the Stock 4.1.1
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Hello,
I too had root, CWM recovery and stock ROM on my note 2 and was able to successfully take the OTA update to 4.1.2 and retain root access. I obviously have a stock recovery now after the upgrade but root is still present! I did have SuperSU (paid for version) that has the Survive OTA update mode and it worked like a charm! One thing to note is that it was not obvious at first that root was retained.
Immediately after the update, my root access failed when trying to use Titanium backup. Also, other apps requiring root access were failing as well. So, I went into SuperSU and ticked the "enable Super User" mode off and then on again and rebooted the phone.
After the reboot I noticed that Titanium Backup had root access and then verified the rest of my apps were working as well.
Three cheers to the creators of these wonderful programs.....I'm very glad I paid for the updates and got the added functionality!!
Good luck to all and hopefully it works as well for you as it did for me!!
for those that needs it to flash ota update, and is currently on MC2 firmware.
enjoy !!!
Thank you pb......
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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npesa92 said:
Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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Well, if you're feeling up to it, you could test it for the rest of us. No one seems to have reported back about anything yet. I'm sure that it will break root though.
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Will it break my root if I flash this and take my ota?
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i didnt go back and reread it but i think thats what garwynn tried and he lost root.
This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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This is kinda required to get the OTA, isn't it?
If I understand correctly, the OTA will fail if rooted? Or is that it will fail if CWM/TW recovery is in place?
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It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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npesa92 said:
It will fail if you have cwm or twrp in place.....you need the stock recovery for it.....I think it will work even if you have root, but your root will be lost once you update
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Thanks.. I thought it was one of those, just couldn't remember which. I may just hold off until I see what others are doing. I am going to look for a nice TouchWiz ROM that allows me to theme it.
Once the awesome Devs here at XDA get their hands on the code, it won't be long before we have a rootable Stock 4.3..
I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I've been wondering.
Do I need a stock recovery and a stock ROM to update or can I be running a custom ROM such as digiblur and update using stock recovery?
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I'd just throw that under the "do not attempt" category. Odds are that while trying to apply the update, stock recovery would detect some assets that don't belong in your current build and abort the update. Also, if this update was successful and something messed up, you would now have no custom recovery. You would have to Odin back to whatever software version possible.
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Does anyone have the stock MK4 recovery pulled? If any one has please help a brother out.
do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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do you flash this with twrp or odin? yes i am a newb. i have stock mc2 with twrp not rooted.
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twrp.....
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What is the best method to update BOB7 to 5.1.1?
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If you're not rooted, KIES or OTA are the official update methods. Either of those will download the update. OTA update patches current stock incrementally and some updates may be large. I'd prefer KIES rather than OTA if going from OB7 to OK1.
Odin is the riskier unofficial (somewhat equivalent) of KIES for rooted users. Stock tars are found in the general forum for faster downloads. Good to have latest for backup in case rooted users need to return to stock. You would need Odin to root but I wouldn't start with it until updated, if not rooted yet. But you wouldn't need Odin if remaining un-rooted.
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What is the best method to update BOB7 to 5.1.1?
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Use odin and download the OG5 tar or OK1, or if you're on stock then just update ota
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What is the best method to update BOB7 to 5.1.1?
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Kies has always worked for me even when rooted.
poit said:
Kies has always worked for me even when rooted.
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I rarely hear that repeated for confirmation but there may be a prerequisite to start using KIES- BEFORE ROOT? Afterwards, it seems to quiry for an elusive serial number that you just can't seem to satisfy despite trying numbers from phone or original box. Some have reported KIES only works for un-rooted phones but a few reported, it works?
Anyway, that's why I also recommended KIES before root.
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