I have done a little searching and cannot find an answer. Why in some device forums are there a "[DEVICE NAME] Android development" and "[DEVICE NAME] Original Android Development" sub-forums? I don't get the different between the two. Can anyone shed some light?
DRatJr said:
I have done a little searching and cannot find an answer. Why in some device forums are there a "[DEVICE NAME] Android development" and "[DEVICE NAME] Original Android Development" sub-forums? I don't get the different between the two. Can anyone shed some light?
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"Original" in this sense are only ROMs that are compiled from source, so AOSP, AOKP, CM Versions. Additionally SOME Sense-Roms may be inducted here, if they include truly extraordinary development. This decision is to be made by moderators.
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This is what the sticky in some of the HTC device forums say. Original, meaning, it can't be based on some one else's ROM. So , ports , themed ROMs, tweaked ROMs, modified stock ROMs, etc are some of the stuff that are NOT included in original android development. Some kernels which are based on some other kernel source which was developed and have no or less significant unique features are also NOT original android development.
Hope this clears some part of it for you.
Red Devil said:
This is what the sticky in some of the HTC device forums say. Original, meaning, it can't be based on some one else's ROM. So , ports , themed ROMs, tweaked ROMs, modified stock ROMs, etc are some of the stuff that are NOT included in original android development. Some kernels which are based on some other kernel source which was developed and have no or less significant unique features are also NOT original android development.
Hope this clears some part of it for you.
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So the ORIGINAL "tag" just means that all of the development work in the thread is COMPLETELY original correct?
So would this mean the official releases of ROMs like CM, Paranoid Android, etc, would be in the original thread? Or just the regular thread?
Also, why are some root methods in the original, and some in the regular thread?
Thanks!
DRatJr said:
So the ORIGINAL "tag" just means that all of the development work in the thread is COMPLETELY original correct?
So would this mean the official releases of ROMs like CM, Paranoid Android, etc, would be in the original thread? Or just the regular thread?
Also, why are some root methods in the original, and some in the regular thread?
Thanks!
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Official ROMs will be in original android development , as it would mean it would have been built by a maintainer.. i.e. he may have contributed to the actual ROM source code.. also some unofficial builds of ROMs which are extraordinary may be included in it. I can't exactly explain why some root methods or some ROMs are in original development .. it is on the discretion of the moderators who manage the particular forums.. There's no particular superiority of a ROM being and a ROM not being in original. I just am informing you about what it is supposed to be.. there maybe exceptions depending upon the various moderators. Also , I must mention , you should not judge a ROM by its position in the forum. Judge them on how you like them and the amount of effort put in it by the various developers of the ROM.. Hope that clears your doubt.
Red Devil said:
Official ROMs will be in original android development , as it would mean it would have been built by a maintainer.. i.e. he may have contributed to the actual ROM source code.. also some unofficial builds of ROMs which are extraordinary may be included in it. I can't exactly explain why some root methods or some ROMs are in original development .. it is on the discretion of the moderators who manage the particular forums.. There's no particular superiority of a ROM being and a ROM not being in original. I just am informing you about what it is supposed to be.. there maybe exceptions depending upon the various moderators. Also , I must mention , you should not judge a ROM by its position in the forum. Judge them on how you like them and the amount of effort put in it by the various developers of the ROM.. Hope that clears your doubt.
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Nah I don't judge ROMs by their position. All of the phones I've had only had one Android Development forum. Lol.
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Hey guys, another noob question. im currently on stock rom ulvh2 , im want to get a custom rom, but i can find for differet stocks like uvlg and stuff like that, the problem is that i cant find anywhere to download this stock rom e,g uvlg to flash on it the room, my question is does the custom rom comes with the stock rom already? it surely takes alot of space ~500mb (the wicked one).
Also what is the meaning of "ADT" and the word "Hybrid" i speaking about the wicked rom.
Final questions is what is the difference between the Tmobile original development thread and the tmobile development thread.
Im really trying to understand the stuff going here- not easy i have to say
thanks for the help!
modesty1 said:
Hey guys, another noob question. im currently on stock rom ulvh2 , im want to get a custom rom, but i can find for differet stocks like uvlg and stuff like that, the problem is that i cant find anywhere to download this stock rom e,g uvlg to flash on it the room, my question is does the custom rom comes with the stock rom already? it surely takes alot of space ~500mb (the wicked one).
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Custom ROMs like the ones you are talking about are stock with modifications, so yes, it is the "full" package.
Also what is the meaning of "ADT" and the word "Hybrid" i speaking about the wicked rom.
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I'm new to Android (came from BlackBerry), but hybrid means exactly what you would think. It's a cross between multiple packages. Some good things taken from each one.
Android Development Tools (ADT) is a plugin for the Eclipse IDE that is designed to give you a powerful, integrated environment in which to build Android applications.
ADT extends the capabilities of Eclipse to let you quickly set up new Android projects, create an application UI, add packages based on the Android Framework API, debug your applications using the Android SDK tools, and even export signed (or unsigned) .apk files in order to distribute your application.
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Final questions is what is the difference between the Tmobile original development thread and the tmobile development thread.
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Development: not original works. Modified stock roms, modems, etc.
Original Development: original works. CyanogenMod, MIUI, the AOKP builds, etc.
hi all,
I bought my one x today!!
I should recive it next week so i got here to look for news\roms\updates and everything about the phone.
my old one is hd mini so it was prett easy with the roms and stuff (android project is dead),but when i got here i got confused hehe to many stuff..hehe
if you can i would like to get a few basic tips to know what's going on..
cheers
lior
You will learn a lot reading the forum A lot of threads have sticky topics, that answer most of the questions you might get, pretty well.
One thing is certain - you will love the phone! The only downside for me is the batterylife, then again, most smartphones don't have great battery life.
liorderei said:
hi all,
I bought my one x today!!
I should recive it next week so i got here to look for news\roms\updates and everything about the phone.
my old one is hd mini so it was prett easy with the roms and stuff (android project is dead),but when i got here i got confused hehe to many stuff..hehe
if you can i would like to get a few basic tips to know what's going on..
cheers
lior
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Welcome!
Basically, the two different types of Rome are sense based (stock Rom with different modifications) and the aosp roms (built from sources, like cyanogen or aokp).you will find first type in android development forum, the aosp roms and kernels in the original development forum.
While sense roms are much better on things, that are connected to hardware, like battery life, sound quality, camera quality, the aosp roms are smoother (although with jelly bean sense roms, this is arguable) and deliver stock android exporience like nexus.
Now, the siuation with sense roms: since jb was leaked, the main ones are based on the leaks, but you can only flash them with newest hboot (bootlader). And this one you can only flash having the right cid (your location number, the European unlocked and Taiwanese are the only right ones for new hboot)
Keep on reading and youll love this phone
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
Firstly , welcome to the One X forum of xda !
I'll start from the basics as you asked .
If you want to flash custom ROMs , you'll have to unlock bootloader , root and flash custom recovery ( CWM or TWRP ) . Due to unknown reasons , HTC is not giving us One X users S-Off bootloader which unlocks a lot of features . But also , it's not much of a restriction if you're used to it . You can follow these 2 noob-proof videos if you want to root your phone .
Please read the quote I'm going to write below as it clarifies the reply of Zlotin's a lot .
Zlotin said:
Welcome!
Basically, the two different types of Rome are sense based (stock Rom with different modifications) and the aosp roms (built from sources, like cyanogen or aokp).you will find first type in android development forum, the aosp roms and kernels in the original development forum.
While sense roms are much better on things, that are connected to hardware, like battery life, sound quality, camera quality, the aosp roms are smoother (although with jelly bean sense roms, this is arguable) and deliver stock android exporience like nexus.
Now, the siuation with sense roms: since jb was leaked, the main ones are based on the leaks, but you can only flash them with newest hboot (bootlader). And this one you can only flash having the right cid (your location number, the European unlocked and Taiwanese are the only right ones for new hboot)
Keep on reading and youll love this phone
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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There are four types of different ROMs which are Sense-based ( obviously you know what it is already ) , AOSP ( Android Open Source Project ) this ROM will give you the complete experience of android , AOKP ( Android Open Kang Project ) this ROM is much likely same as AOSP but it has more custom features and lastly the MIUI ( Mobile Internet/Mission Impossible User Interface ) this ROM is completely by itself , it gives you a ... kinda iOS UI and other custom features of its own . You can find all these ROMs in both android development and original android development forums . The different between these both forums is that Original means just that...originally built not just themed or apps changed or a few add-ons or tweaks. So there would be the original AOKP release, the official CM releases, original MIUI release, first and only first deodexed stock ROM, and kernels with full source link posted. Anything else is regular developement. The Original Development is to give added recognition to full real developers putting together actual code, not winzipping things together. Now the JB-Sense ROMs are final-versions which are not leaks as Zlotin said . But to flash JB-Sense ROMs , you need to have updated hboot version which is restricted by CIDs . Currently , only Taiwan have the officially released hboot as they have received they JB through OTA . The European ones are leaks not official but still usable .
chaun1308 said:
The different between these both forums is that Original means just that...originally built not just themed or apps changed or a few add-ons or tweaks. So there would be the original AOKP release, the official CM releases, original MIUI release, first and only first deodexed stock ROM, and kernels with full source link posted. Anything else is regular developement. The Original Development is to give added recognition to full real developers putting together actual code, not winzipping things together. .
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Aha! New here too and I was wondering about that, thought it was AOSP vs sense then saw a sense version in there .. then I thought its just because theres so much development one forum isnt enough! -which is true too i guess. Anyway its amazing to see so much happening here after the sad story of official support which hurt development for my Atrix so much.
thank you very much guys you've been very helpful and nice i'm glad to join this community, and if ill have further question ill ask
liorderei said:
thank you very much guys you've been very helpful and nice i'm glad to join this community, and if ill have further question ill ask
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welcome, sorry to be such a bastard but this is not the right section
I just upgraded my Sensation to ONE X.. and YES there is a difference
i unlocked the phone but i have not rooted yet.. and i got a little confused why there are 2 development sections.
What is the difference between oneX and the original oneX
I noticed that after flashing new ROMs you have to flash the boot.img?! is that every time? i`m a little confused since everything was more straight forward with the sensation
Thanks
Since we don't have s-off for our hox, you have to flash boot.img manually every time you change ROMs or if instructed to do so by the rom dev.
As for why there are two different sections, there is an explanatory anouncement post by forum mods describing the two sections.
EDIT: I cant seem to find the anouncement. What it boiled down to is, for a rom/kernel/mod to be included in the original android dev section, it must be original work or add something innovative to an already existing rom. Simple additions or tweak of an already existing one does not qualify a rom to be included in the original section.
eyosen said:
Since we don't have s-off for our hox, you have to flash boot.img manually every time you change ROMs or if instructed to do so by the rom dev.
As for why there are two different sections, there is an explanatory anouncement post by forum mods describing the two sections.
EDIT: I cant seem to find the anouncement. What it boiled down to is, for a rom/kernel/mod to be included in the original android dev section, it must be original work or add something innovative to an already existing rom. Simple additions or tweak of an already existing one does not qualify a rom to be included in the original section.
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Yeah,
Basically "Original" is built from the ground up by the member who posted it
The "Android Development" is a developed version of an existing ROM?
nice, now i understand. So basically if i choose a AOSP or AOKP (which right now from what i read have lot's of issues) i go with the original thread.
It's a shame we do not have S-Off. i don't want to be stuck on Sense but from the looks of it, i might not have a choice (buggy AOSP)
qiuness said:
nice, now i understand. So basically if i choose a AOSP or AOKP (which right now from what i read have lot's of issues) i go with the original thread.
It's a shame we do not have S-Off. i don't want to be stuck on Sense but from the looks of it, i might not have a choice (buggy AOSP)
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All the AOSP/AOKP/CM10 ROMs are usable as daily drivers, none of them are buggy...
This maybe a stupid question but back in the day the development threads were only one. There were no "original" development section, I'm wondering when did this happen and what's the difference between either thread? (Same thing with my previous phone the gnex) Thanks.
As far as I can tell, "original" section is for ROMs created entirely by the devs based on the official Android sources.
The "regular" dev section is for cooked ROMs based on existing ROMs like Samsung's releases.
HiKsFiles said:
As far as I can tell, "original" section is for ROMs created entirely by the devs based on the official Android sources.
The "regular" dev section is for cooked ROMs based on existing ROMs like Samsung's releases.
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Ahh that makes sense the original section is all AOSP and the other is based off Samsung GS3 official builds.
Hello.
I'm a bit confused. What is the purpose have two different sections on this forum, if both of them get CM/AOSP and such roms?
Shouldn't roms based on Samsung roms be posted in the "Original" section and CM/AOSP/AOKP so on in the "non-original" (or vice versa)?
Right now having these two sections seems to be redundant...
[email protected] said:
Hello.
I'm a bit confused. What is the purpose have two different sections on this forum, if both of them get CM/AOSP and such roms?
Shouldn't roms based on Samsung roms be posted in the "Original" section and CM/AOSP/AOKP so on in the "non-original" (or vice versa)?
Right now having these two sections seems to be redundant...
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Original is more for kernels and such. Though I agree with you that in practice it isn't always working as planned I can see the thought process behind it
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Edit:....Kenny got it...and has the qualified answer...
Thank you Kenny......g
The sticky in Original Development explains it.
As anyone can compile from CM supplied source how can that be original? What Original work was done? Original Development is to present the hard work of developers and teams to make 1000's of lines of original code to produce something not previously available for that device. A cherry picked CM ROM is NOT original and is building off of another teams or developer's Original work, therefore NOT Original.
It has NOTHING to do with TW versus AOSP. The very first TW custom ROM for a new device would qualify for original with all the smali edits.
kennyglass123 said:
The sticky in Original Development explains it.
As anyone can compile from CM supplied source how can that be original? What Original work was done? Original Development is to present the hard work of developers and teams to make 1000's of lines of original code to produce something not previously available for that device. A cherry picked CM ROM is NOT original and is building off of another teams or developer's Original work, therefore NOT Original.
It has NOTHING to do with TW versus AOSP. The very first TW custom ROM for a new device would qualify for original with all the smali edits.
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Avatar, Root Box and Xone and PACMAN should be moved to Android Development not Original. All are CM or AOKP based.
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