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Is it still worth getting the Galaxy Nexus? should i wait until it has been dropped in price because of the new one or how much will the new Nexus be?
Money is tight and i live in australia, thanks.
Info: Nexus S has a cracked screen, wont respond to jig/unbrickable and i dont want to tamper with the inside.
Considering that we're (likely) a couple weeks away from knowing some good details on a next-generation Nexus device, I'd just hold off if you can. The Galaxy Nexus goes for about $400 internationally right now, but if it continues to be on sale when the new one comes out it'll surely drop in price. Not to mention that if you're willing to buy used you'll be able to get one for next to nothing.
If money is an issue then you're likely going to be looking at the Galaxy Nexus rather than the new one (unless Google does some crazy pricing), so I'd just wait a couple weeks and see.
If the specs we're seeing about the new Nexus are accurate, I'd stick with the GNex. 8MB of internal storage with no SD slot is a bit of a joke. You're also only looking at a moderate upgrade on the screen and processor, from what I've been hearing.
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It's always worth getting a Nexus.
Pierceye said:
If the specs we're seeing about the new Nexus are accurate, I'd stick with the GNex. 8GB of internal storage with no SD slot is a bit of a joke. You're also only looking at a moderate upgrade on the screen and processor, from what I've been hearing.
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We don't know the final storage options when the phone goes on sale, so I find it funny that people are already recommending against it based on what a prototype device has for storage. You'll also never seen an SDcard in a Nexus, so that's not even a knock on it.
We also don't know what the screen is like. LG is well known for very good IPS screens, so we'll see.
How is going from an OMAP4 to a S4 Pro quad-core a "moderate upgrade". Are you high?
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
It all hinges on pricing and how much you're willing to spend, but if the LG Nexus turns out with the specs that we've seen, it's going to be a very worth-while upgrade.
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We don't know the final storage options when the phone goes on sale, so I find it funny that people are already recommending against it based on what a prototype device has for storage. You'll also never seen an SDcard in a Nexus, so that's not even a knock on it.
We also don't know what the screen is like. LG is well known for very good IPS screens, so we'll see.
How is going from an OMAP4 to a S4 Pro quad-core a "moderate upgrade". Are you high?
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
It all hinges on pricing and how much you're willing to spend, but if the LG Nexus turns out with the specs that we've seen, it's going to be a very worth-while upgrade.
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Well its also LG and no amoled screen. I cant live without that.
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Well its also LG and no amoled screen. I cant live without that.
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Gonna need a better argument than "well its also LG", as if LG is incapable of making good devices.
Why can't you live without AMOLED? What if the screen is clearer, brighter, and has no banding or graininess? Would you be able to live with that?
Again, don't see how people can judge a device that they've never seen or has even been released and reviewed.
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Is it still worth getting the Galaxy Nexus? should i wait until it has been dropped in price because of the new one or how much will the new Nexus be?
Money is tight and i live in australia, thanks.
Info: Nexus S has a cracked screen, wont respond to jig/unbrickable and i dont want to tamper with the inside.
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If money is tight, I'd recommend the gnex. But wait until the new ones out. Instant price drop, but if you can afford the new one, go for it!
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Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
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On paper, sure, realistically, doesn't make a difference.
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We don't know the final storage options when the phone goes on sale, so I find it funny that people are already recommending against it based on what a prototype device has for storage. You'll also never seen an SDcard in a Nexus, so that's not even a knock on it.
We also don't know what the screen is like. LG is well known for very good IPS screens, so we'll see.
How is going from an OMAP4 to a S4 Pro quad-core a "moderate upgrade". Are you high?
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
It all hinges on pricing and how much you're willing to spend, but if the LG Nexus turns out with the specs that we've seen, it's going to be a very worth-while upgrade.
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Take it easy. Neither the sarcasm or aggressive attitude are necessary. If you disagree with what I freely admit is an Opinion, great. I'm interested in your's. Let's have a discussion, like a forum is intended. But please, spare me the Billy-Bada$$ routine. I'm not impressed.
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Dude do u play ps3 with xgrinder 911 as a gamertag by any chance?
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Gonna need a better argument than "well its also LG", as if LG is incapable of making good devices.
Why can't you live without AMOLED? What if the screen is clearer, brighter, and has no banding or graininess? Would you be able to live with that?
Again, don't see how people can judge a device that they've never seen or has even been released and reviewed.
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Because no screen can ever have as deep blacks as AMOLED screens. And I've had a bad experience with LG. Their phones may be fine but the people who work for them aren't.
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Dude do u play ps3 with xgrinder 911 as a gamertag by any chance?
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i go by dafuze1 on ps3 and its fuze on xbox so nope sorry dude.
(In reply to everyone) thanks to all of your replies i love the galaxy nexus and i think ill go with that. will wait for the price drop though :good:
Pierceye said:
If the specs we're seeing about the new Nexus are accurate, I'd stick with the GNex. 8MB of internal storage with no SD slot is a bit of a joke. You're also only looking at a moderate upgrade on the screen and processor, from what I've been hearing.
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It's 8GB because what we saw was a prototype or whatever. I guarantee the final Nexus won't have only 8GB.... This was said like a million times by the way.
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Hi there,
So my question is, what do you think of the nexus 4?
Personally i think in the front it looks ferocious but in the back part, it looks like shiny and LGfab (disgusting) style, they should put a mirror in there also.
Also, do you think that the rumors of a GN2 or a GN+ will become true?
Plz god YES.
I think nexus phones HAVE to be from HTC or (now) samsung!!!
Will I buy it!?
Yes, cause its google's so the expectation can be above the sky! I dont think that it is better than our beloved GNexus.
Thank you
I personally think it looks fantastic. But to each his own. I've always had Samsung phones including both Nexus' made by them. Although I wish Samsung had another run with it Lg isn't stopping me from buying the nexus 4.
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I still love my galaxy nexus no need buy nexus 4.
I love it, I think the glass construction will make it feel much more premium and better in the hand than the GNex.
Thanks for the laugh. This is the one and only. LG Google Nexus⁴.
Take it or leave it. The "GNex+" is the Touchwiz NatureUX Samsung Galaxy Premier. It just simply has the gut of the GNexus smashed into a Touchwiz phone.
IMO the N⁴ is the most beautiful Nexus made so far. Finally a Premium feeling device. And iPhone 4S has a shiny apple logo smacked right on the middle of the back, still a best sellermad:Nexus should be). So yeah.
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I believe no matter how popular it is LG is a bad phone manufacturer. Point blank. They get a phone slap their ui on it and call it flagship......noooo. HTC is the way to be. Literally they should have taken over after Samsung.
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How can anyone say without touching one? The phone hasn't even been released yet. No regular users (or even reviewers) have had quality time with it.
As for the GNex+ or GN2, those phones don't exist and never will exist.
I know I'm probably speaking blasphemy here, but the only two attractive features of the Nexus 4 are the Snapdragon S4 Pro and 2GB of LPDDR2, and honestly, Android is so piss-poor at managing multi-core and RAM that those specs won't make it any faster than an iPhone 5 or any of the upcoming WP8 devices until, I'm gonna just guess here, but probably Android 5 or 5.1.
Hard truth.
kenjimovic said:
I still love my galaxy nexus no need buy nexus 4.
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kenjimovic said:
I still love my galaxy nexus no need buy nexus 4.
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Me, too.
I think putting a quad-core in is a stupid idea unless you severely underclock it. A good dual-core S4 like the HTC One S (which performs better than the quad-core One X in most situations due to the smaller resolution) would have been largely sufficient. Thumbs up for the memory upgrade, though.
I remain doubtful w.r.t. the IPS screen. I'm the first to admit that the Super AMOLED in our Galaxy Nexus has wonderful contrast, homogeneity and sharpness, but the gamut + default color profile suck and there is hella ghosting. I hope the new screen will be an improvement.
It's good that they managed to fit a 2100 mAh battery in there but if it comes at the expense of not being able to carry backup batteries, then I don't like it. I always have a spare battery when travelling and it would feel quite wrong for me to use a monolithic phone. Bleh.
Still no micro-SD slot though it was one of the many complaints about the Galaxy Nexus.
Europe is quite slow with true 4G deployment so why no 42Mbps DC-HSPA+?
What about the build quality of other LG phones? How are they?
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It's good that they managed to fit a 2100 mAh battery in there but if it comes at the expense of not being able to carry backup batteries, then I don't like it. I always have a spare battery when travelling and it would feel quite wrong for me to use a monolithic phone. Bleh.
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Um u could just buy an external battery that charges it. Like how iphones do it. You charge the battery, and u connect it to the Port and it charges. So that is not an excuse why someone wouldn't want to upgrade.
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This is a stupid regret full buyer of LG. I have a few words to say. Whatever they did to this, will be awesome. Why? Google shall support it in software and LG does the hardware...
Now Let me tell you this. LG promised my phone(Optimus Black) ICS at the third quarter of this year. Guess what? Sorry, we still don't have any updates of the ICS. UP TILL NOW. So, u really should buy it LG has everything good except user support. And now, Google collaborates with LG and that solves everything!
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Android isn't the only culprit that can't manage multi-core, we've had single core for so long that getting proper dual-core optimisation will take at least another 2-3 years.
The jump from dual-core to quad-core was a much smaller leap than from single-core to dual-core.
The truth is that most apps don't scale well.
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I think that Google picked lg. I wonder if Google has their own forum, where they make threads wondering if their customers are retarded? Come on, the phone isn't even out yet. Any complaint has been refuted a dozen times in any of these dozens of threads. Google birthed the magic box (gnex) everyone here loves so dearly, and now they made a new one. I apologize for my bluntness, but it's ****ing GOOGLE, and I'm gonna go ahead and presume that they known how the hell to oversee their flagship device's production. The phone is probly awesome. Buy it, don't, or make your own phone.
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I think that Google picked lg. I wonder if Google has their own forum, where they make threads wondering if their customers are retarded? Come on, the phone isn't even out yet. Any complaint has been refuted a dozen times in any of these dozens of threads. Google birthed the magic box (gnex) everyone here loves so dearly, and now they made a new one. I apologize for my bluntness, but it's ****ing GOOGLE, and I'm gonna go ahead and presume that they known how the hell to oversee their flagship device's production. The phone is probly awesome. Buy it, don't, or make your own phone.
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kenjimovic said:
I still love my galaxy nexus no need buy nexus 4.
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And well i'll buy it, but i'll be hoping with all my soul for the GN+!!
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I think putting a quad-core in is a stupid idea unless you severely underclock it. A good dual-core S4 like the HTC One S (which performs better than the quad-core One X in most situations due to the smaller resolution) would have been largely sufficient. Thumbs up for the memory upgrade, though.
I remain doubtful w.r.t. the IPS screen. I'm the first to admit that the Super AMOLED in our Galaxy Nexus has wonderful contrast, homogeneity and sharpness, but the gamut + default color profile suck and there is hella ghosting. I hope the new screen will be an improvement.
It's good that they managed to fit a 2100 mAh battery in there but if it comes at the expense of not being able to carry backup batteries, then I don't like it. I always have a spare battery when travelling and it would feel quite wrong for me to use a monolithic phone. Bleh.
Still no micro-SD slot though it was one of the many complaints about the Galaxy Nexus.
Europe is quite slow with true 4G deployment so why no 42Mbps DC-HSPA+?
What about the build quality of other LG phones? How are they?
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I actually owned a few LG phones, and the quality is not the best! :/ i HOPE that the nexus get the best out of LG.
I will be buying the N4 but with the hope of the GN+, and only will because its google.
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And well i'll buy it, but i'll be hoping with all my soul for the GN+!!
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Why would Google make that....
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I like how it looks and i think IPS screen will look gorgeous, but why would i want to switch from my Galaxy Nexus? Performance is still snappy, dev support is amazing.
And i've ordered new housing for my phone for 20 bucks and it looks like new now. So i think i'll stick with it for another 6 months at least.
Here's something I came across on GSM arena today. Looks as legit as it can get.
www.youtube.com/embed/gfzom-RdrwI
Thoughts ?
hmm it seems thicker and still has home button...hmm
The Chinese version? Seems the speed of launching is kind of slow but the camera is very clear.But what's the key advantage, I don't think I have grab the point.
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The Chinese version? Seems the speed of launching is kind of slow but the camera is very clear.But what's the key advantage, I don't think I have grab the point.
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The screen shots and settings look identical to the leaked ones from AT&T. The next big thing you ask, why is this an upgrade ? 13mp camera, improved CPU, GPU, and power management. Innovative features like smart scroll, air touch, and many more things that we are not even sure of yet. The big day is tomorrow, and I'm gonna jump the gun and say this video is the real deal without a doubt.
I, for one will be jumping ship on tax day April 15th, the expected date of release. I love the Galaxy line and am always there for the next big thing !
I saw this on tmonews a couple days ago and noticed how thick it was too. Doesn't make sense unless it just the battery door on too loosely and gives it the appearance of being thick. I also saw it looks just like our note 2 from the front and rear looks like ours with all the camera and led stacked in a vertical line. The rear matches poorly with the front and is confusing. I really wish Samsung would use a higher quality plastic or aluminium like HTC but whatever. The VP of Sammy already addressed this recently with the excuse of limited production when using higher grade materials. Plus, meantion of plastic being better on drop rate tests etc. Good excuses if you ask me... Although somewhat valid. As far as the SGS4... Not sure if it's the real deal or not. I said yes but maybe this is a tester or prototype. I guess we'll see... It doesn't matter to me though because I'm keeping this beast for a while probably until at least the Note 3 is here on T-Mobile USA. I'm probably gonna save my extra cash for new Wii or Xbox.
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I saw this on tmonews a couple days ago and noticed how thick it was too. Doesn't make sense unless it just the battery door on too loosely and gives it the appearance of being thick. I also saw it looks just like our note 2 from the front and rear looks like ours with all the camera and led stacked in a vertical line. The rear matches poorly with the front and is confusing. I really wish Samsung would use a higher quality plastic or aluminium like HTC but whatever. The VP of Sammy already addressed this recently with the excuse of limited production when using higher grade materials. Plus, meantion of plastic being better on drop rate tests etc. Good excuses if you ask me... Although somewhat valid. As far as the SGS4... Not sure if it's the real deal or not. I said yes but maybe this is a tester or prototype. I guess we'll see... It doesn't matter to me though because I'm keeping this beast for a while probably until at least the Note 3 is here on T-Mobile USA. I'm probably gonna save my extra cash for new Wii or Xbox.
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I will hold till' Note 3 comes out.
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sino8r said:
I saw this on tmonews a couple days ago and noticed how thick it was too. Doesn't make sense unless it just the battery door on too loosely and gives it the appearance of being thick. I also saw it looks just like our note 2 from the front and rear looks like ours with all the camera and led stacked in a vertical line. The rear matches poorly with the front and is confusing. I really wish Samsung would use a higher quality plastic or aluminium like HTC but whatever. The VP of Sammy already addressed this recently with the excuse of limited production when using higher grade materials. Plus, meantion of plastic being better on drop rate tests etc. Good excuses if you ask me... Although somewhat valid. As far as the SGS4... Not sure if it's the real deal or not. I said yes but maybe this is a tester or prototype. I guess we'll see... It doesn't matter to me though because I'm keeping this beast for a while probably until at least the Note 3 is here on T-Mobile USA. I'm probably gonna save my extra cash for new Wii or Xbox.
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All those aluminum bodied phones have signal issues for sure. The Galaxy line has been the fastest HSPA+ devices I have used, period. Constantly getting more bars, and better signal. I'm all for the polycarbonate bodies, the light weight build, and the awesome features. The only think I would want aluminum is the faux metal bezel.
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All those aluminum bodied phones have signal issues for sure. The Galaxy line has been the fastest HSPA+ devices I have used, period. Constantly getting more bars, and better signal. I'm all for the polycarbonate bodies, the light weight build, and the awesome features. The only think I would want aluminum is the faux metal bezel.
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Ugh. I hope that white dialer and settings background is not how it really is. Thats one thing I love about Samsung, they generally make all BG's black
Im going to wait for the note 3 for the fact that I can't use anything with a smaller screen anymore, even if it means waiting a couple months.
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horr1blek1tten said:
Im going to wait for the note 3 for the fact that I can't use anything with a smaller screen anymore, even if it means waiting a couple months.
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I was testing a website on an iPhone 3G and was amazed at how tiny the screen was. I can't believe that I was ever productive on it.
Samsung needs to step it up a bit on design. They're doing great on hardware/software though.
IMO, the phone doesn't really grab any attention as far as needing to upgrade or wanting to shell out cash for it. Just hope there's features the software can bring that people might actually want.
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Samsung needs to step it up a bit on design. They're doing great on hardware/software though.
IMO, the phone doesn't really grab any attention as far as needing to upgrade or wanting to shell out cash for it. Just hope there's features the software can bring that people might actually want.
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Well, it is gonna have 4.2.1 so software wise its ahead of everything but nexus devices. Even the HTC One only has 4.1.2.
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Well, it is gonna have 4.2.1 so software wise its ahead of everything but nexus devices. Even the HTC One only has 4.1.2.
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pretty sure i heard it's going to have 4.2.2.
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myself im waiting to see the device tomorrow night before i make a decision. i payed off my tmobile phones and moved to at&t. so im a free agent and will buy my next phone full retail. im torn between the s4 and the htc one.
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pretty sure i heard it's going to have 4.2.2.
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myself im waiting to see the device tomorrow night before i make a decision. i payed off my tmobile phones and moved to at&t. so im a free agent and will buy my next phone full retail. im torn between the s4 and the htc one.
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We will find out tomorrow. It'll be 4.2.1 tho. I'd bet on it.
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We will find out tomorrow. It'll be 4.2.1 tho. I'd bet on it.
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at this point everything will be pure speculation. i think we will be surprised on what we see tomorrow.
i love the design the bezel around the screen is small the sides look aluminum the front is a mini note 2 , everything is looking good
it looks thick because he didnt attach the back cover correctly if you pause the video you can see that theres gaps on it
I just read a report that the US version might not come with the much awaited Octa 5 processor, instead, it will come with a quad core snapdragon 600 chip with LTE support, also, there will be no eye-scrolling feature but will have a head turning sensor for videos. I mean, I don't care about the eye sensor but it would suck if it doesn't come with the 8-core chip, on the other hand though, development for this phone might be easier if it does carry the snapdragon chip instead of Octa 5 OR exynos...
EDIT: I'm just speculating but if Samsung follows the pattern of the S3 and the Note 2, then I'm assuming that the Note 3 will come with the Octa 5 chip.
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I'm hearing the UK will get the octa core CPU but it will support LTE. If so ill be getting the international version as long as its works on AT&T.
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I'm hearing the UK will get the octa core CPU but it will support LTE. If so ill be getting the international version as long as its works on AT&T.
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The international version will work on any GSM, the LTE bands are specific to the EU however.
That's the problem! Plus, if ur planning to flash cm or any non-tw rom, you'll be better off with a snapdragon phone with LTE, unless u wanna wait for the note 3 which might come with the octa chip AND LTE (hopefully).
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Hey guys, so I'm going Tablet hunting and have come down with 2 leading candidates, the Pipo M7 Pro, a Chinese Tablet. or the Nexus 7 (2013).
The only thing that worries me is the development. As a Flashaholic I'd like a tablet with decent dev support, and I haven't seen any dev support for the Pipo M7 Pro.
Now, the Nexus 7 Multi touch and GPS/random reboot issues have me here at bay, making the debate a bit more intense.
I'll probably use my tablet for reading, school related work or gaming/listening to music (rarely though, I'll probably have my Galaxy Nexus for that which works fine really(or a Nexus 5 by the time it comes out ))
Any recommendations/Opinions/Point of views will be appreciated.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Mostly every blog I've read mentions it. But I guess I'm just on that "unlucky and unconventional" part of the internet.
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Been thru quite a few "shows" ... the TF101, the 2012 Nexus 7 & now the 2013 Nexus 7...
I still don't hesitate a bit to buy one. Heck, I even wish there is a refurbished sales right now.
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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So it is a hardware issue? And not software related?
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Your guess is as good as theirs right now....
Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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dpaganello said:
This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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Thank you for your opinion.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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Jimlarck said:
Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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First,
I agree with the above line in bold.
Second,
If you aren't in a hurry to buy a tablet, I'd wait to see what the TegraTab and the LG G Pad 8.3 end up being like. That's what I'm going to do when I return/exchange my N7 flo for the 3rd time. I'm on my 2nd one now, so hopefully the 3rd try will be the the charm! I expect both those options to be more expensive, but if either of them is within 100 of the 32gb N7 flo (as long as it's 32gb or 16gb with a microsd), then I'll probably give it a shot.
Third,
If you absolutely want a tablet right now, I can't recommend the N7 in good conscience. Having had two with the same exact issue(multitouch), I would say the odds are pretty good that you'd get one with the same issue. That said, if the N7 is what you like and you don't mind potentially returning/exchanging it, get one. Just be sure to buy from somewhere with a good return/exchange program. I've had pretty good luck with Best Buy so far, as well as Amazon. I'd choose Best Buy if there's one near you for ease of returning/exchanging, i.e. no wait time.
Good Luck!
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Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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They are not, but fans of Chinese stuff like to go crazy about them and use them to compare with brand name products. If I see two products with similar scores I would expect similar function but clearly it's not the case.
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I had Asus Infinity TF700T before, but I was very disappointed about the build quality and the lagging of the device. I hated that tab every moment. I didn't install custom rom because it required unlocking the device and loosing the warranty. So I sold it and bought Pipo M7pro.
I like the screen and size of the tablet and this is much faster and smoother than Asus TF700. Also the build quality is better than on Asus, which had loose screen even repaired three times for warranty.
Multi window feature is pretty cool! Check the video from youtube.
I'm really satisfied of this cheap Chinese tab!
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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I think the Chinese phones and tablets may have some issues but then again so do other phones. In my opinion it is best to wait for a very comprehensive review before you buy. And only buy from a near-by supplier that is willing to take it back if it is faulty, do not buy direct from China because it is unlikely to get your money back, plus the shipping costs and customs would make it uneconomical to return items.
For example, a year ago I bought a Chinese phone, with superb specifications. It seems to have two faults (at least). First, it is very fussy with the SD card, many applications do not work with it and especially GPS Navigation applications that store huge maps on the SD card. Secondly the GPS receiver is either broken or simply very, very bad. My dedicated Garmin GPS, my wife's iPhone4, my son's Samsung S3 : they all lock on to the GPS almost instantly. The Chinese phone needs to be absolutely stand still for like 5-10 minutes before it can lock on. Completely useless in the car for example, I have to stop the car, and then wait 5-10 minutes so it can lock.
Someone said above that high-end Chinese phones and tabs use Qualcomm and Samsung parts and not their own. Well, no **** Sherlock! That qualifies as one of the most idiotic statements I have read. Every single electronic device in the world uses parts made by various/hundreds of other manufacturers. This has always been the case. I would not expect the Pipo M7 Pro to have components made by Pipo - and it does not matter anyway. My Sony VAIO laptop does not use a "SONY" CPU, or chipset, or GPU, or memory, or capacitors, or resistors, actually I doubt that a single component inside my laptop is actually made by Sony, except perhaps the badge!!!
I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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Here's a problem for those with N7 Pro : the speakers crackle at high volume.
Do not buy M7 Pro
OK I guess finally I may have something to help after getting so many helps from this nice forum.
I live in China and I'd say I'm quite familiar with Chinese tablets and nexus devices. (proud owner of both types) I've yet to find a Chinese native brand tablet that marches either Nexus 7's build quality or OS stability. (always search for teardown pics before decision) Usually they have small problems here or there, but you don't have a bug list and workaround thread in a good forum simply because they don't have enough users.
There are worth buying Chinese tablets though. They are usually much cheaper than Nexus 7, don't have fatal problems, have good user base and forums to post workarounds of those small issues, and recently they start to come in so many varieties of screen size. (there used to be a time when they are mainly 7" widescreen, before the mighty Nexus 7's arrival.)
IMHO if you prefer 7" tablet, just grab the new Nexus 7. If not, don't buy M7 Pro for the following reasons:
1 Rockchip is not as friendly to devs as its rival SoC company Allwinner. I can find unofficial CM10.2 on AllWinner platform but I find almost nothing on Rockchip;
2 RK3188 seems strong, but in practice it's not a good chip for HD "Retina" display due to poor design choice of a single channel 32bit memory controller, which results a memory bandwidth that nearly kills GPU performance. BTW that's just a fraction of bandwidth compared to the new Nexus 7. I heard the GPU performance is so poor that even stock launcher can't go butterly smooth.
However RK3188 + a 1024*768 display is fine.
Summary: don't buy RK3188+HD display like the M7 Pro; strongly recommend new Nexus 7
correction: No Chinese SoC performs well on 1080p display. I'd guess 720p is the limit.
Hope it helps
Title says it all. Now that the one max has been announced (and should hit Verizon) will you switch?
I personally have never owned a phablet and that 3300mAh battery is very tempting.
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If I had any other phone but the one, I probably would. But I think the one is the perfect phone for me.
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If I had any other phone but the one, I probably would. But I think the one is the perfect phone for me.
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Ditto. I need a phone that still fits in my pocket.
Nope! Doesn't seem to offer anything more than the One. Other than the fingerprint scanner which I have no want or need for.
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I will probably try to pick one up and either gift the One to my wife to replace her iPhone 5 or just keep it for myself. Either way. I will try to get one!
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I'll stick with the One. Having borrowed a friend's GN2 to play around with, I had issues with pocket space and one-handed use.
With the One Max being larger than that, I can't envision being able to carry one around comfortably.
I'm considering it....I had the Note² prior to the ONE and although this phone is a go, I really miss the screen size of the Note².
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If someone wants to buy me one I'll take it. Haha
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Nope...would of liked a 5.2-5.5 inch one but 5.9 is just overkill...plus the fingerprint scanner looks dumb
The one is more than enough phone for anyone. The max seems to not offer to much more. Plus we have s off. For the one lol
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If someone wants to buy me one I'll take it. Haha
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Agreed. I'd take it if someone gave it to me, but I wouldn't buy it myself.
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Nope. I think the HTC One Max is far too big. I wear pretty slim jeans and I doubt a phablet would fit in my front pockets anyways . Plus, it still has the same Snapdragon 600 and 2GB ram as the regular HTC One. I get plenty great battery life on the HTC One so a larger battery doesn't mean much to me. I also don't like the bezel on the Maxx. I guess its different since the back can be removed, but I think it looks pretty ugly. Reminds me of the bezel on the HTC One mini.
I could totally see why someone would be interested in the large screen, but I personally think 4.7" is perfect for my needs.
The HTC One Max will hopefully be unlock-able by Sonic, to
1) bring them S-OFF
2) get him some credits used to recoup some moneys
would I EVER use a phablet like this? hell no.
5.9 is just insane. 5 would be the largest I think I could use. Anything over just doesn't appeal to me.
Nope. The One is the perfect size for my needs.
ill prolly get one, as long as i can afford it. the fingerprint scanner i have no opinons of yet,but i love the size. i was a disapointed when the one went down in screen size from the dna,so im lookin forward to it.
i hear from someone whose played with one that they are pretty sweet
The One is perfect for me. No need for more.
Personally I think a 6 inch phablet is too big to go in and out of pockets regularly, I would rather keep using my One and get something like the Nexus 7 for the kind of things phablets are used for. I went from the HTC Incredible to the One, that is 3+ years of the same phone and lets be honest the Incredible really is an incredible phone. The only reason I waited so long to get a new phone was because the android phones Verizon was offering were all too big and too fat. Who wants to have something that requires your pants to be altered for the device to fit in your pocket??
After hearing it has pretty much identical specs with the exception of a larger screen, I'd almost only consider it a sidegrade. If it had a snapdragon 800 and a bit of extra fancy stuff I'd take it, but its literally a large HTC one with no real benefit except for the fingerprint scanner and bigger battery :/
So if I were to get a phablet I'd get the note 3, but the HTC One is perfect for me .
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After hearing it has pretty much identical specs with the exception of a larger screen, I'd almost only consider it a sidegrade. If it had a snapdragon 800 and a bit of extra fancy stuff I'd take it, but its literally a large HTC one with no real benefit except for the fingerprint scanner and bigger battery :/
So if I were to get a phablet I'd get the note 3, but the HTC One is perfect for me .
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I thought I had read that it was coming with the Snapdragon 800, but on re-reading the specs I will agree fully. If the camera or SoC were upgraded, I would upgrade. But a larger version of my One just isn't enough for me to pick it up. Like mentioned, I wouldn't say no if someone gave me one or if I just found a really great deal on one. But my next HTC device better have a snapdragon 800 under the hood!
nope, HTC One with bigger screen, bigger battery, but apparently, most will only get 16gb of storage. SD card is nice, but on my note 2, I was frequently running out of internal storage and sd card swap just seems like a bad idea to me. Even the fastest cards can't match internal storage read/write speeds.