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Best Video Setting for Smooth Video?

Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.

chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ

Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!

I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?

Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.

mnico said:
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.

Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.

The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.

mnico said:
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.

What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.

thedudelasse said:
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.

chongbh said:
I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.

Aquila-169 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.

[Q] 720p video playback issue

Hello,
I'm having some problems about playing 720p videos from HTC Desire Z. It plays some 720p videos smoothly which are recorded by itself (also there is a fps problem in there, some are about 19fps).
I wonder which {container, codec} we should use to play 720p videos smooth. I tried with several media players like Vplayer, Moboplayer, Rockplayer and Android's default media player.
I tried some files. Here their properties:
Container: MKV
Video Codec: H264
Audio Codec: AC3
Overall Bitrate: ~4.5Mbps
Length: 71min
Size: 2.2GB
This was a concert video.
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Container: MKV
Video Codec: H264
Audio Codec: AC3
Overall Bitrate: ~4.5Mbps
Length: 40min
Size: 1.1GB
This was a tv show.
Rockplayer can play this videos but not smooth enough. It freezes for 5-10 milliseconds at every 1-2 seconds.
Using stock 2.3.3 ROM and stock SD Card.
Phone can play 480p videos smoothly but I think it can play 720p videos since it can record 720p videos.
Thanks in advance.

The DZ isn't actually powerful enough to play 720p videos from an external source. I can barely play 480p AVI smoothly. MKV and MP4 are a total lost cause for me. Haven't tried after I installed Virtuous 2.0 and had it OC'd to 1.5GHz though.

ArmedandDangerous said:
The DZ isn't actually powerful enough to play 720p videos from an external source. I can barely play 480p AVI smoothly. MKV and MP4 are a total lost cause for me. Haven't tried after I installed Virtuous 2.0 and had it OC'd to 1.5GHz though.
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As far as I know, DZ has hardware decoding for 720p videos. So it can play 720p videos and DZ records with 8mbps and encodes with h264 and its container is 3gp. Only difference is container. Maybe changing container will fix this but I tried with avi, mkv. Maybe I should try with 3gp container.
Anyone tried?

Try dice player
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tcchuin said:
Try dice player
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Tried with its trial version but it says "sorry, this video can not be played" when i try to play video which I mentioned at my first post (tv show one) and also another video which is a mp4 video.
DicePlayer can not play any video in the phone

I use Rock Player Lite and it can play MP4 vids properly. Granted, I just OC'd my DZ to 1.5GHz, and an MP4 file encoded in h.264 with an average bitrate of 1.5kbps plays flawlessly. At stock speeds the audio goes out of sync and artefacts get introduced. Haven't tried MKV files since I OC'd yet though. Software decoding in RPL.
Hardware decode basically is the same as the default media player, software decoding takes up more CPU resources, but is able to play more formats and containers.

I haven't found any way to reliably open mkv container on desire z. MX video player by far does the best job (and yes, I've used other players like rockplayer, dice player, etc) but it still plays 720p mkv h264 slightly choppy. 720p h264 mp4 plays fine with software and hardware decoder, while 720 avi xvid can play smoothly on a small overclock.
I try to avoid 720 anyway because the difference between 720 and 480 on a 3.7inch screen is barely visible to me lol

Exactly lol. As long as it can play 480 on the DZ it's more than fine by me. 720p on a 480x800 screen... ~_~
MX Video Player.. Never heard of it. Gonna search and try that out. How does it compare to Rock Player?

i really liked rockplayer for a long time until i found out mx player had software codecs tweaked for ARMv7. Check it out on the market, its free anyway lol

I tried mx player but still there is the same problem.
I also tried to change the container to mp4. PC plays well but when I try to play on phone, video is smooth but there is no sound and audio codec is ac3. Maybe the problem is here.
I tried with rockplayer using software decoding, there is sound but laggy video.

Try MX with SW. Works fine on any container and format so far for me.

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Try MX with SW. Works fine on any container and format so far for me.
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Tried in 3 available mode in MX Player but still laggy video

The trick is to use video in the correct settings for the hardware decoder. If you do that then it won't matter if it's in mkv or mp4.
For the video portion, use baseline profile h.264 with the maximum bitrate (VBV) capped at 8mbps up to 720p
For audio, use AAC-LC in stereo.
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The trick is to use video in the correct settings for the hardware decoder. If you do that then it won't matter if it's in mkv or mp4.
For the video portion, use baseline profile h.264 with the maximum bitrate (VBV) capped at 8mbps up to 720p
For audio, use AAC-LC in stereo.
Sent from my HTC Vision
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I think so. But there is a problem when playing MKV files. There is problem after I changed container to mp4, though.
But the audio codecs of videos which I tried are not AAC. Maybe this causes the problem.
I don't know, how hard can it be to play videos which have AAC audios.

Use Handbrake to encode and it'll be easy to specify AAC for audio. You can use the iphone profile for encoding.

Hi again,
I've solved my problem. I use dice player which plays 720p mkv videos (even with ac3 audio codec).
I wrote here dice player can't play any video in the phone. That was a hardware decoding problem, I think. When I try to play an unsupported video format with hardware decoding, hardware decoding crashes and unable to play videos as it should be.
So, after that if I restart the phone hardware decoding comes back and plays videos perfectly.
Is this a common issue? If it is not should I do a factory reset to my phone?

To be honest, with our default 800*480 screen, we would not be able to take advantage of 720p quality as 720p is 1280*720 (Unless we stream it to a HDTV or Monitor). Re-encoding it to 800*450 is wiser to conserve file size as well
found this recommended settings at afterdawn for Handbrake or MEGUI. Tried it with rockplayer hardware decoding and it is smooth i used mp4 format
full link is here http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/converting_video_for_the_htc_desire_z.cfm
Code:
Recommended Video Options
Format H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC)
Profile Baseline
Level 3
Average Bitrate 800kbps - 1800kbps
Max Resolution 800×480 @ 24fps
800×480 @ 25fps
800×432 @ 30fps
768×448 @ 30fps
720×480 @ 30fps
Maximum GOP Length 250
Minimum GOP Length 25
B-frames None
CABAC Off
Other Recommended Settings
Audio Format AAC
Audio Channels 2
Audio Bitrate 128kbps - 256kbps
Container (File Type) MP4*
Subtitle Format Timed Text or SRT **

[INFO] MX Video updated for ICS

Just updated to the new MX Video player.
My MKV's plays without issue, smother than Diceplayer!

Yes works much batter then dice. Just tested 720P mkv, plays smooth in hw mode with subs.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

no HW acceleration for me.

Me either.. Its abit choppy - SW decoder fast mode works best for me plays nice and smooth. Also if its been updated for ICS why do the buttons still remain on screen :|

same here HW doesn't work on 720p video

..couple of days I bought Diceplayer ,avi films works fine but after doesn't work anymore;-(I updated MX player and works amazing ;-)thx

Two things:
1. When I play 720p MKV file locally it plays nicely in HW. But when I play the same file from network share, only software decoder works and subtitle no longer loads.
2. TXT subtitle in the format beow does not display correctly:
1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,300
/Previously in "xxx"...
2
00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:06,800
Line 1,
Line 2.

Backo23 said:
..couple of days I bought Diceplayer ,avi films works fine but after doesn't work anymore;-(I updated MX player and works amazing ;-)thx
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send your avi files to diceplayer's dev ( [email protected] )
I'll fix it.

Will be interested to see how my batch of test videos goes on the Nexus with various players... will link to my findings here when I have them!

Yeah, diceplayer works fine with mkv files, but not so well with xvid avis. It is a bit choppy, and ac3 audio plays ahead of video. I bet there will be an update soon enough.
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jkoljo said:
Yeah, diceplayer works fine with mkv files, but not so well with xvid avis. It is a bit choppy, and ac3 audio plays ahead of video. I bet there will be an update soon enough.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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Probably depends on files, all AVIs I have tried played without any problems. But still, most of my files now comes in MKV format.
There is one MKV that no player can handle It's a free sample so it's ok to share: http://www.filesonic.com/file/4051381924/killa.sampla.x264.mkv

After last update, software buttons get hidden in full screen mode, nice.
Any chance for WMV HD hardware decoder support?

K wait so MX Video ... are they still inferior to DicePlayer because it isnt hardware driven? I have read the thread and saw Dice doesnt do well with some formats in some cases but.. I cant decide which to get.. MX Video looks a lot nicer but the DicePlayer market page says it drains less battery and it takes advantage of the Gnex's omap processor for video so.... ehhhh
any thoughts

If MX is said to do everything in software, than why does it show Software OR Hardware decoder option while playing files? Some files get played in Hardware, some in software, all depends on codec. Try both. In my case, subtitles support is important, so most of the time I use MX, but Diceplayer is nice too. Whenever file doesn't play in one, I try the other. Neither is perfect yet.

Dmw017 said:
K wait so MX Video ... are they still inferior to DicePlayer because it isnt hardware driven? I have read the thread and saw Dice doesnt do well with some formats in some cases but.. I cant decide which to get.. MX Video looks a lot nicer but the DicePlayer market page says it drains less battery and it takes advantage of the Gnex's omap processor for video so.... ehhhh
any thoughts
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I have problems with some xvid avi files with MX Player. But even so the decision is easy at the moment because the developer of Dice Player has problems with his checkout account and you can't buy Dice Player at the moment.

Try the free version. AVI's lag for me
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K wait so MX Video ... are they still inferior to DicePlayer because it isnt hardware driven? I have read the thread and saw Dice doesnt do well with some formats in some cases but.. I cant decide which to get.. MX Video looks a lot nicer but the DicePlayer market page says it drains less battery and it takes advantage of the Gnex's omap processor for video so.... ehhhh
any thoughts
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Try the free version of MX Player first and see how you like it. MX Player has lag for me in AVI's (standard def) with hardware decoding selected. I have to choose software decode (Fast) for it to play properly.

dirran said:
Try the free version of MX Player first and see how you like it. MX Player has lag for me in AVI's (standard def) with hardware decoding selected. I have to choose software decode (Fast) for it to play properly.
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I have the same problems with xvid avi files, but i can't enable software decode. Regardless of what options i choose in decoder settings, the xvid avi file is always played in HW mode (amazingly an h.264 mkv file is always played on Fast SW mode with the same settings).

Bierfreund said:
I have the same problems with xvid avi files, but i can't enable software decode. Regardless of what options i choose in decoder settings, the xvid avi file is always played in HW mode (amazingly an h.264 mkv file is always played on Fast SW mode with the same settings).
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Try play this MKV file locally from the phone, not over the network, it should play in Hardware. If it does, then mount your network drives with CIFS Manager and they will play in Hardware too.

How do I access menu?
Hi guys,
Now that mx player hides the soft buttons, how do we access the menu to change the options? I can't seem to find the … button anywhere.

schriss said:
Try play this MKV file locally from the phone, not over the network, it should play in Hardware. If it does, then mount your network drives with CIFS Manager and they will play in Hardware too.
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Played it locally, i don't use streaming... the mkv is played smootly in "SW fast" mode, but the xvid avi is not played smoothly in "HW" mode...

[Q] Is it possible to use H/W decoding to watch *.mkv in nexus 7(2013)

Have any one tried it.
Or will it be done by flashing a custom rom(may be cm10)

mahoihei said:
Have any one tried it.
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Yes. My sat-box records in .mkv and it is viewable (streamed from sat-box) without changing anything. I use vplayer.

I use diceplayer, works great.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

MX Player with custom codec.
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MX Player with custom codec.
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+1. You can even boost the volume level to upto 30 if you use HW+ decoding, works amazing on AC3/DTS audio

serviio and diceplayer. Makes a great DNLC network that can stream any file to your Nexus. As for playing it on the nexus, I personally dont like putting movie files on mine since the memory gets used up rather quickly.

MX Player and the VLC Beta both work fine with .mkvs for me. I've even played some pretty hefty 1080p files with no issues.

you don't need to do anything. just open the file with MX player, be player or similar. sorry I'm not understanding why this is an issue for you

You can use HW decoding for video in players such as MX Player but you can't do audio HW decoding for some codecs since Dolby is suing everybody for supporting their formats without permission and is also refusing to license them.

MX Player works great in HW+ mode. I have had no problem with normal HD mkv files or 10 bit anime mkv

Tony_YYZ said:
You can use HW decoding for video in players such as MX Player but you can't do audio HW decoding for some codecs since Dolby is suing everybody for supporting their formats without permission and is also refusing to license them.
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Actually you can, custom codec option in mx player Worked wonders for me, there's threads about this. Stock rom, locked.

Yes, it can for both 8-bits 720p and 1080p, but 10-bits sorry, can't....

Can anyone point me to the right codec to download? All videos I try are using S/W instead of H/W in MxPlayer (except MP4). WMV and MKV are playing in S/W. Thanks a bunch

joey4321 said:
Can anyone point me to the right codec to download? All videos I try are using S/W instead of H/W in MxPlayer (except MP4). WMV and MKV are playing in S/W. Thanks a bunch
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ya, where do i download the latest HW codecs? my s/w works fine but HW mode doesnt work too well in mxplayer pro/ lags and stutters

Some education is needed
MKV is not a codec, it's a container format much like DVD .... The problem is not the MKV container but what it contains. Generally the biggest problems are MKV's made from US OTA (Over the air) and cable TV recordings which all have the audio in AC3 format and usually in Dolby encoding. (And as someone mentioned Dolby doesn't like it when they don't get their Cut, even if the software is free and no one is actually profiting from it except the Consumer)
I've recorded and archived several TV series since 2006 and some of my first MKV's kept the AC3 audio format (but converted the video to h.264) because I was having sound sync problems (Not sure if it was an x264 or the cable company's fault but the issue eventually went away) and for those I have to use software decoding for the audio but the video is still hardware accel .... The ones I've made in the last 3-4 years have the audio converted to AAC format and those have full hardware accel video and audio and play flawlessly and effortlessly even on my lowly Rockchip dual core TV Stick (720p and in the process of being embedded in a Motorola Lapdock)
Point being it's not the MKV container that is the problem, what counts is the formats it contains .... And in the case of us North Americans we need to convert the audio (AAC is the best bet IMO) so you may as well convert the video (Much of it is interlaced and that's another issue conversion fixes, Handbrakes default Decomb filter does it well) .... For that I would recommend x264 and Handbrake (x264 is included in Handbrake) which should not only take care of compatibility issues it also makes for a smaller file (Better transfer/streaming over wifi) without any loss of playback quality .... Also I would recommend stripping off any extra audio feeds (Languages) if you aren't going to use them, ditto for subtitles ... In other words keep it simple and convert to formats with known/best compatibility

SPAM.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254
MX player > settings > decoder > download custom codec

what about the mpeg2 decode ,not h/w decode?

no hardware acceleration for 1080i dvb-s2 recordings or streams
My nexus 7 with stock Rom plays 1080p h264 content in MKV containers flawlessly with h/w acceleration with various players. Except for either streams or recordings from my tvheadend server. If they are 1080i (no German station broadcasts in 1080p) none of the players gets h/w working. SD and 720p do work though. The only difference I can see between my recorded files and the ones that do play is that the recordings have 25 fps whereas the other mkvs have about 24.
In the attachments there are two screenshots of two mkvs' properties. The 25 fps one is the one that won't work.
Anyone's got an idea? Thanks

from what i know,snapdragon still don't support 10bit decoding perfectly,thats why u can't use hw+ mode for 10bit video.
When I tried with my HTC One X,it can play 10bit video in hw+ mode though.Its likely for now Tegra and Exynos only support 10bit decoding in hw+ mode,even not perfectly.
u can refer to this thread ->
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mx-videoplayer/WKv1LNeUTSI

Playing Hi-res (4K, 10bit, HEVC) video on HTC 10

Hello!
According to Snapdragon 820 specifications, this SoC can play 4K video with 10 bit HEVC encoding. Just for interest, i upload sample video (www.demo-uhd3d.com) and use MX and VLC players. But both of them plays videos very slow, looks like slideshow.
So not clear, why our device can not play such files? There are lack of needed codecs (that must be instaled by device manufacturer), or I need specific player?
Thank you.

Did you try different codecs in mx player app while playing?

ali nz said:
Did you try different codecs in mx player app while playing?
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Yes, of course. HW, HW+ - no one working. May there is error in fiel coding, but not celar what exactly causes this problem. Some users says that some 4K files can be played.

heavy-razzer said:
Some users says that some 4K files can be played..
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Easily.. I mean mostly 4K files can be played..
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..

Downloaded the Transformers_extinction_Trailer_4K UHD, 10bit, from your site you provided and it played without any issues using mx player pro with the 1. 8.6 audio codec to play AC3.
VLC and Power DVD couldn't play it.