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Cant delete the bloat

Hello all, I have rooted the phone and installed "no bloat" from the play store. I try to delete all the bloat apps..such as play books, but it fails to delete even after i grant it su acess.
What could be wrong?
I am running stock ics ( i find it better for me than cm9 at the moment)
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txrocker281 said:
Hello all, I have rooted the phone and installed "no bloat" from the play store. I try to delete all the bloat apps..such as play books, but it fails to delete even after i grant it su acess.
What could be wrong?
I am running stock ics ( i find it better for me than cm9 at the moment)
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I suggest trying Titanium Backup and seeing if there is a difference. It has helped me remove any bloat I did not want on my phone on many roms, including stock rooted ICS.

RickG13 said:
I suggest trying Titanium Backup and seeing if there is a difference. It has helped me remove any bloat I did not want on my phone on many roms, including stock rooted ICS.
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Just tried to delete some apk's, for example I just tried to remove Play Books.
I get and error from TB that it could not be removed.

txrocker281 said:
Just tried to delete some apk's, for example I just tried to remove Play Books.
I get and error from TB that it could not be removed.
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What's your root app: Super SU or Superuser?
Also how did you root? Flashing the Root.zip file in CWM?

RickG13 said:
What's your root app: Super SU or Superuser?
Also how did you root? Flashing the Root.zip file in CWM?
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1 SuperSU
2 I flashed the zip trough CWM as detailed here
http://galaxys2root.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s2/how-to-root-icsgb-on-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-sgh-t989/

You are getting the super su prompt when launching titanium backup, correct? I've heard some issues with some people not having full root privileges on the stock rom. Try running a darkside cache wipe (in the dev section), reboot phone, and try again.
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RickG13 said:
You are getting the super su prompt when launching titanium backup, correct? I've heard some issues with some people not having full root privileges on the stock rom. Try running a darkside cache wipe (in the dev section), reboot phone, and try again.
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1) yes i did grant titanium su acess when the prompt came up
2) ok i will try to use the darkside wipe later today
Thanks for the help so far. I really enjoy the phone, really a step up from my mytouch 4g
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txrocker281 said:
1)
2) ok i will try to use the darkside wipe later today
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Please be sure to run the CACHE wipe and not the actual system wipe. Hope this resolves your issue.

download this app called root uninstaller. its so easy and free. i use this app instead because it only does one thing, which is delete any apps on your phone. system apps bloat apps and regular apps. keep it simple.

Could also be su issues. You could try to go in and delete the permissions and try again. Probably an issue with root though. could try a root check, dl updated bb and su, or just start over.

Thanks for the help everyone so far.
I went back to stock gb and rooted. Deleted the bloat
Thanks again!
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Why are some of my Apps unable to gain root access?

I am running AOKP JB B1, just like suddenly, some of my Apps like DX tool box and DX power booster can't gain root access anymore, but other apps like root explorer work fine, I tried to update supersu and binary, no good.
Then I thought maybe I screw up the system because lots kernel flashed, so I just reflash AOKP JB B1 with full wipe , but still no good...
Could it be application compatibility problem or something wrong at my end?
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qtwrk said:
I am running AOKP JB B1, just like suddenly, some of my Apps like DX tool box and DX power booster can't gain root access anymore, but other apps like root explorer work fine, I tried to update supersu and binary, no good.
Then I thought maybe I screw up the system because lots kernel flashed, so I just reflash AOKP JB B1 with full wipe , but still no good...
Could it be application compatibility problem or something wrong at my end?
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Just a guess but some apps look for Superuser.apk to confirm root access. If your ROM has SuperSU.apk as SuperSU.apk that could be the issue. When I flash a ROM with SuperSU I always change the name to Superuser.apk.
HTH

3rdstring said:
Just a guess but some apps look for Superuser.apk to confirm root access. If your ROM has SuperSU.apk as SuperSU.apk that could be the issue. When I flash a ROM with SuperSU I always change the name to Superuser.apk.
HTH
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No good, I tried installed superuser
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3rdstring said:
Just a guess but some apps look for Superuser.apk to confirm root access. If your ROM has SuperSU.apk as SuperSU.apk that could be the issue. When I flash a ROM with SuperSU I always change the name to Superuser.apk.
HTH
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the supersu apk is named Superuser.apk as well for compatibily purpose
@OP flash in recovery SuperSU.zip solve all ur problems

andQlimax said:
the supersu apk is named Superuser.apk as well for compatibily purpose
@OP flash in recovery SuperSU.zip solve all ur problems
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still no good , DX tool box still says "Root not allowed, the operation is denied"
i also tried in CodenaAndroid and XeonHD , doesn't work on both of them , it should be applications compatibly preblem.

qtwrk said:
still no good , DX tool box still says "Root not allowed, the operation is denied"
i also tried in CodenaAndroid and XeonHD , doesn't work on both of them , it should be applications compatibly preblem.
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a. update your busybox, use stericsons busybox updater from the play market. open the app, update busybox.
b. open your superuser or supersu app and make sure that your binaries are updated and that root is enabled. superuser has known issues with jelly bean.
c. if aokp has an optional root or no choice, enable root.

simms22 said:
a. update your busybox, use stericsons busybox updater from the play market. open the app, update busybox.
b. open your superuser or supersu app and make sure that your binaries are updated and that root is enabled. superuser has known issues with jelly bean.
c. if aokp has an optional root or no choice, enable root.
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unfortunately , still can't , busybox is updated. SuperSu has updated the binaries as well and i even set to gain permission without asking, still can't
all other apps like ROOT EXPLORER , TRITIUM BACK UP, FRANCO KERNEL UPDATER, PGM2 and something more were able to gain access to root , only these 2 can't
this is the app that can not gain access ...

qtwrk said:
unfortunately , still can't , busybox is updated. SuperSu has updated the binaries as well and i even set to gain permission without asking, still can't
all other apps like ROOT EXPLORER , TRITIUM BACK UP, FRANCO KERNEL UPDATER, PGM2 and something more were able to gain access to root , only these 2 can't
this is the app that can not gain access ...
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its the app. and on top of it, it doesnt want to close, it wants to run itself and download/send data. i uninstalled it really quick.

simms22 said:
its the app. and on top of it, it doesnt want to close, it wants to run itself and download/send data. i uninstalled it really quick.
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It's app for system optimization or something like firewall, kill auto run apps, process management...
Ok... were you able to get root access?
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Switch root apps?

How do you go about switching from superuser to supersu?
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I dont think I understand your question. The su text entered into the terminal gives the terminal su access and is denoted by this symbol #, giving the terminal su access, but the superuser app always has access and asks you if you want to allow certain apps that require it access as well. Hope that helps!!
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youdoofus said:
I dont think I understand your question. The su text entered into the terminal gives the terminal su access and is denoted by this symbol #, giving the terminal su access, but the superuser app always has access and asks you if you want to allow certain apps that require it access as well. Hope that helps!!
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Let me try to clear it up a bit...I just got the s3 and I noticed that most roms use the root app "superuser" I have had better luck with android 4.0 + using the other root app by chainfire "supersu" my quesion is what is the best way to switch the root app that you use to grant su permissions...thanks for your help!
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Gotcha. Read the description of the app...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
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*sigh* There are times I wish we had a thumbs down option....
Here was the steps I was given, it worked for me without a problem.
1. Install SuperSu from Play and update binaries. Make sure it achieves root.
2. Delete Superuser.apk from system/app using a root file manager.
3. Install Superuser from Play.
4. Uninstall Superuser thru Play.
5. Reboot phone.
This will permanently get rid of Superuser and SuperSU should retain root functionality.

jdogg836 said:
*sigh* There are times I wish we had a thumbs down option....
Here was the steps I was given, it worked for me without a problem.
1. Install SuperSu from Play and update binaries. Make sure it achieves root.
2. Delete Superuser.apk from system/app using a root file manager.
3. Install Superuser from Play.
4. Uninstall Superuser thru Play.
5. Reboot phone.
This will permanently get rid of Superuser and SuperSU should retain root functionality.
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thanks, i did the first half, didnt think about the reinstall though

How to change SuperSU to Superuser?

Im currently running JMT which uses SuperSU. I would like to use Superuser. Ive tried just flashing Superuser, but how to remove SuperSU?
I posted this in the ROM's thread, but never got an answer so hoping someone here will know

Delete the Superuser.apk in the ROM (it's really SuperSU) and pull the "real" Superuser.apk from somewhere else.
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android88 said:
Delete the Superuser.apk in the ROM (it's really SuperSU) and pull the "real" Superuser.apk from somewhere else.
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I did so (system-->app), installed superuser, rebooted, cleared dalvik and fixed permissions...still getting the supersu shell message with apps, and still showing up on installed programs...what did I miss?

blackangst said:
I did so (system-->app), installed superuser, rebooted, cleared dalvik and fixed permissions...still getting the supersu shell message with apps, and still showing up on installed programs...what did I miss?
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I'm curious, but would it just be a matter of updating the binaries with Superuser?

treefrog321 said:
I'm curious, but would it just be a matter of updating the binaries with Superuser?
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Well, I downloaded a fresh copy from the market, and when I open it it doesn't update. Just shows no apps are assigned to it..
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blackangst said:
I did so (system-->app), installed superuser, rebooted, cleared dalvik and fixed permissions...still getting the supersu shell message with apps, and still showing up on installed programs...what did I miss?
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There are some /bin and /xbin files too.
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blackangst said:
Im currently running JMT which uses SuperSU. I would like to use Superuser. Ive tried just flashing Superuser, but how to remove SuperSU?
I posted this in the ROM's thread, but never got an answer so hoping someone here will know
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Um, even easier...
Download SuperUser recovery flash zip and while still inside Android on device go to file manager open /system/apps and delete the SuperSU.apk
Now restart to recovery clear the cache and dalvick cache
choose install from SDCard
Find where you downloaded SuperUser.zip and flash
Restart
SuperSU is WAY better at handling Super User requests [for instance, it has a wait state on the pop-up where it does not go quite as fast so some apps that take a min to request super user and another min to display the pop you aren't already at 1 - 2 seconds] and for instance for quite some time Super User was known to seg fault [basically an error happens and it doesn't work to grant access right when that happens] whereas SuperSU was created later to kinda address that and some other issues in SuperUser [not saying SuperUser is bad it is updated and does it's job, it's just SuperSU does it better].
Just if any guide says use SuperUser just replace SuperUser with SuperSU when doing something and in app drawer just look under SuperSU for it's app and not SuperUser.

Thanks for the help and input guys

blackangst said:
Thanks for the help and input guys
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Did you get it working the way you wanted?

RealPariah said:
Did you get it working the way you wanted?
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Im gonna follow the advice that supersu is better and use it for awhile

RealPariah said:
Um, even easier...
Download SuperUser recovery flash zip and while still inside Android on device go to file manager open /system/apps and delete the SuperSU.apk
Now restart to recovery clear the cache and dalvick cache
choose install from SDCard
Find where you downloaded SuperUser.zip and flash
Restart
SuperSU is WAY better at handling Super User requests [for instance, it has a wait state on the pop-up where it does not go quite as fast so some apps that take a min to request super user and another min to display the pop you aren't already at 1 - 2 seconds] and for instance for quite some time Super User was known to seg fault [basically an error happens and it doesn't work to grant access right when that happens] whereas SuperSU was created later to kinda address that and some other issues in SuperUser [not saying SuperUser is bad it is updated and does it's job, it's just SuperSU does it better].
Just if any guide says use SuperUser just replace SuperUser with SuperSU when doing something and in app drawer just look under SuperSU for it's app and not SuperUser.
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Can I do this with replacing Superuser with SuperSU (I'm running Avatar ROM & I miss using SuperSU)?

I have a rooted phone. I have SuperSU. Do I really need Superuser and BusyBox?

Hi, I have a SONY XPERIA S rooted, and I have SuperSU after root. Now do I really need other apps like Superuser or BusyBox? Or Superuser it's the same thing as SuperSU.
Can i use the phone just with SuperSU or those apps : Superuser and BusyBox are a must ?

AlinTheron said:
Hi, I have a SONY XPERIA S rooted, and I have SuperSU after root. Now do I really need other apps like Superuser or BusyBox? Or Superuser it's the same thing as SuperSU.
Can i use the phone just with SuperSU or those apps : Superuser and BusyBox are a must ?
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You don't have to install Superuser because you already have SuperSu. Busybox is very useful and many apps depend on busybox so it is much better to have busybox installed. But usually, most rooting tool kits [like DoomLorD's] even install busybox if my memory serves me. So if you would like to know if you already have busybox installed, just check my signature for my app on Playstore

abcdjdj said:
You don't have to install Superuser because you already have SuperSu. Busybox is very useful and many apps depend on busybox so it is much better to have busybox installed. But usually, most rooting tool kits [like DoomLorD's] even install busybox if my memory serves me. So if you would like to know if you already have busybox installed, just check my signature for my app on Playstore
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Yes I have rooted with this : SuperSU-1.25-Busybox-1.20.2-UPDATE but only SuperSU appeared on my phone, as an app. Doesn't BusyBox should appear as an app to ?

AlinTheron said:
Yes I have rooted with this : SuperSU-1.25-Busybox-1.20.2-UPDATE but only SuperSU appeared on my phone, as an app. Doesn't BusyBox should appear as an app to ?
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Oh that's great. Then you should have busybox installed too. Busybox is not an app and hence you won't find it in the app drawer. It is an all in one executable file which contains a variety of commands [linux commands] like cp, mkdir, touch etc. It is located in system/xbin or system/bin.

AlinTheron said:
Yes I have rooted with this : SuperSU-1.25-Busybox-1.20.2-UPDATE but only SuperSU appeared on my phone, as an app. Doesn't BusyBox should appear as an app to ?
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Use "Root Checker Pro.apk" to check superuse & busybox is correctly installed.
Download the pro version of root checker or buy , your wish.
Busybox is required for some mods to work.
I use Xperia Ion, i need busybox for clockworkmod to work properly.
For u it might help in some other mods.

Thanks. Helped me a lot.

abcdjdj said:
Oh that's great. Then you should have busybox installed too. Busybox is not an app and hence you won't find it in the app drawer. It is an all in one executable file which contains a variety of commands [linux commands] like cp, mkdir, touch etc. It is located in system/xbin or system/bin.
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And another thing. What other apps are a must for a rooted phone? Like : Greenify, RomManager [Not working for me, reboots my phone when I try to make a backup ROM ] , DroidWall, Nandroid Manager,Better Terminal or any kind of terminal ? Are this useful or I may look for other apps ?

I don't have any of that. Lol
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AlinTheron said:
And another thing. What other apps are a must for a rooted phone? Like : Greenify, RomManager [Not working for me, reboots my phone when I try to make a backup ROM ] , DroidWall, Nandroid Manager,Better Terminal or any kind of terminal ? Are this useful or I may look for other apps ?
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Well Titanium Backup is a must for all rooted android phones. A good file manager which can modify system files (like Root Browser by Jrummy) is also a must have app. There are many other useful utility apps which utilize superuser access like adb wireless, terminal emulators etc. Each app has it's own function so depending on your needs, just search for playstore and I am sure that you will find an app which suits you the best.

Great, although Greenify it's ok because he can help you identify and put the bad behaving apps into hibernation when you are not using them.

Root uninstaller and es file explorer. Job done
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abcdjdj said:
Well Titanium Backup is a must for all rooted android phones. A good file manager which can modify system files (like Root Browser by Jrummy) is also a must have app. There are many other useful utility apps which utilize superuser access like adb wireless, terminal emulators etc. Each app has it's own function so depending on your needs, just search for playstore and I am sure that you will find an app which suits you the best.
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Thanks, and another question It's true that Rom Manager makes a better and complete backup than Titanium does ?

Ben36 said:
Root uninstaller and es file explorer. Job done
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Thanks.Well es file explorer it's not the same thing as Total Commander with acces granted?

I've never used total commander but it is just a file explorer yea. I just prefer the use and layout etc of es
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AlinTheron said:
Thanks, and another question It's true that Rom Manager makes a better and complete backup than Titanium does ?
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Do not use rom mangler. Not sure how well it works now but it has had a history of not working correctly and messing up some devices.

Yeah,mine rebooted every time I tried to do a backup.

AlinTheron said:
Yeah,mine rebooted every time I tried to do a backup.
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Greenify
Root Browser
Titanium backup
These 3 are must have apps after rooting your phone.
And to make a backup of ur rom why you using Rom manager ?
Use A recovery , CWM is the one im using.

Captain Droid said:
Greenify
Root Browser
Titanium backup
These 3 are must have apps after rooting your phone.
And to make a backup of ur rom why you using Rom manager ?
Use A recovery , CWM is the one im using.
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Great, how you do it?

AlinTheron said:
Great, how you do it?
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If you are on ICS follow this method.
If you are on JB follow this method.
Before trying any of the above, do your own research. See if u have all the requirements before doing anything.

Captain Droid said:
If you are on ICS follow this method.
If you are on JB follow this method.
Before trying any of the above, do your own research. See if u have all the requirements before doing anything.
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Done it. Download it, extracted the files, do the exact steps, everything ok, I see no change. The link you gave me for JB is [RECOVERY] CWM Recovery 6.0.3.0 for {JB} LOCKED bootloader and I have an unlocked bootloader. When Ienter in recovery with my phone it says that I have CWM v6.0.3.2