So I got a Optimus G E-971, and it is currently on rogers. Now I know it may be a long shot but is there a way to unlock this phone without having to pay, I am strapped for cash for a week and need the phone ASAP, as I am starting a small business.
The device is "Unlocked, and Rooted" but I had gotten my hopes up when I did both of them thinking that it would unlock my phone to be used on a different carrier.
Nope. But 4$ is not that much
http://freemyblackberry.com/other-phone-brands.php
It is when you don't have more than a cent in your accounts.
True words,but,unfortunatelly there is no way to unlock this phone.
kimitza said:
True words,but,unfortunatelly there is no way to unlock this phone.
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Exactly, if you want it unlocked, you need to pay for it.
If you don't have the 4$ for the unlock, I wounder how you pay the bill for the device...!
t1mman said:
Exactly, if you want it unlocked, you need to pay for it.
If you don't have the 4$ for the unlock, I wounder how you pay the bill for the device...!
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Haha because I only pay monthly so I can normally afford it when the bill comes, anywho I was planning on buying a code today, but problem is now for some reason my phone is telling me it's permanently locked, is there a way to reverse this?
JoeUber said:
Haha because I only pay monthly so I can normally afford it when the bill comes, anywho I was planning on buying a code today, but problem is now for some reason my phone is telling me it's permanently locked, is there a way to reverse this?
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What is the exact message?
MitoTakatori said:
What is the exact message?
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I turn the device on with the SIM card and it says "This phone is permanently locked and can not be unlocked." Yet just because I was curious tried another sim card and it didn't give me this error, I also tried this sim card on another phone and it worked fine.
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Does anyone know if any of the usual unlockers (e.g. cellunlocker.net) has the unlock codes yet? Or if there are different unlocking methods? Thanks!
I hope something comes up soon. I purchased full price and AT&T won't unlock.
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I need this too.
EBay has them for $30 bucks... But anyone find a cheaper free solution?
Tell att your going out of the country and you need your phone unlocked. If they still say no, remind then you could return phone and buy one from a3rd party.
mrhaley30705 said:
Tell att your going out of the country and you need your phone unlocked. If they still say no, remind then you could return phone and buy one from a3rd party.
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Yea I need to call. I tried the online chat assistant.
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05GT said:
Yea I need to call. I tried the online chat assistant.
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If they still say no, get angry and tell then you want to speak to the customer retention department
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Tell att your going out of the country and you need your phone unlocked. If they still say no, remind then you could return phone and buy one from a3rd party.
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tried that....did NOT work....
Bought a code from cellunlocker. Net
It works, I'm unlocked now
$25
trim81 said:
Bought a code from cellunlocker. Net
It works, I'm unlocked now
$25
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Me too... Working...
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me three.
cheapest option I found.
trim81 said:
Bought a code from cellunlocker. Net
It works, I'm unlocked now
$25
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Any issues with this unlock? Are they permanent? I know customer service reps are clueless half the time but when I called to get my unlock code and was told I was also told I should be careful of getting an unlock code online as he had a case of someone call once saying their unlock code only worked with the phone for 90 days and then it stopped working (not sure if the phone or the unlocking). Also, any issues with privacy in regards to giving out en IMEI number?
Dome three.
Yes perm unlocked.
No problems
trim81 said:
Dome three.
Yes perm unlocked.
No problems
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Appreciate it.
same here. got it from cellunlocker and used the phone in switzerland without an issue.
My phone is I317M that locked to Canada Rogers Network. I messed up my phone once due to flashed 7100 rom to my I317m, and I lost all information like baseband, network, imei. After did some research, I flashed a rogers stock rom back to my phone, and my phone get fixed and got signal again. Noticed that my phone is even unlocked. I dont know how that happened, but my phone works with other carrier now. Expect if someone can explan this.
This is reported by quite a few to be working and best of all it's free I tried it but don't have a sim for another carrier but I haven't gotten any errors and my phone is still working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
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This is reported by quite a few to be working and best of all it's free I tried it but don't have a sim for another carrier but I haven't gotten any errors and my phone is still working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
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I actually just bought the unlock code today from cellunlocker.net (but I haven't actually used it yet) and then I see this thread and was just going to try the method from your link for ****s and giggles and it WORKED! what a waste of $25
I did mine. However I have no way to test it. What would be the benefit to having this done?
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I did mine. However I have no way to test it. What would be the benefit to having this done?
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If you ever travel overseas, you can just buy a prepaid sim and stick it in your phone and you could use your phone while traveling for cheap without paying any carrier roaming fees.
I don't want to pay for a DATA PLAN!
So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.
I tried permanent unlocking but it says it is not eligible, however i got it temporarily unlocked till august. so is there any way that i can make it permanent or any hacks that lets the temporary unlock stay forever.
Any hopes?
https://www.t-mobile.com/company/co...olicy/unlock-your-mobile-wireless-device.html
Check Ebay and see if any of those companies can unlock it
Lucifer9345 said:
I tried permanent unlocking but it says it is not eligible, however i got it temporarily unlocked till august. so is there any way that i can make it permanent or any hacks that lets the temporary unlock stay forever.
Any hopes?
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I was thinking about the same. Wonder what is it that relocks it after the 30 days. is it the t mobile app?
Was thinking what if you get a temp unlock then flash the Unlock stock firmware on top that removes all of t mobile bloat including that Unlock app. Will the phone remain unlocked and have no way of re locking back because the unlock app would be missing?
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I was thinking about the same. Wonder what is it that relocks it after the 30 days. is it the t mobile app?
Was thinking what if you get a temp unlock then flash the Unlock stock firmware on top that removes all of t mobile bloat including that Unlock app. Will the phone remain unlocked and have no way of re locking back because the unlock app would be missing?
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It doesnt work i tried it already thinking the same and the phone relocks regardless of the app being installed or not unfortunately.
Lucifer9345 said:
I tried permanent unlocking but it says it is not eligible, however i got it temporarily unlocked till august. so is there any way that i can make it permanent or any hacks that lets the temporary unlock stay forever.
Any hopes?
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if your on a monthly installment payment plan, and have not paid for the device in full they will not permanently unlock the device.
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It doesnt work i tried it already thinking the same and the phone relocks regardless of the app being installed or not unfortunately.
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I wonder how? I figured it was a good idea. Tempory unlock then flash the unlocked firmware would erase the T-Mobile Unlock App. How would it relock itself once on the unlocked firmware?
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if your on a monthly installment payment plan, and have not paid for the device in full they will not permanently unlock the device.
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Hmm this cant be true, just got mine permanently unlocked and still paying on it
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Hmm this cant be true, just got mine permanently unlocked and still paying on it
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this is per the T-Mobile website...
Unlock Eligibility for Monthly Phones and tablets
The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at least 40 days on the requesting line.
If the device was financed using T-Mobile’s Equipment Installment Plan (EIP), then all payments must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
If the device is on an account that has a service contract term, then at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or the account was migrated to a no contract rate plan.
If the device is associated with a canceled account, then the account balance must be zero.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
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Hey
There it's a company saying that the t-mobile unlock app services are back online and they claim that they can unlock it for 45 bucks
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this is per the T-Mobile website...
Unlock Eligibility for Monthly Phones and tablets
The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at least 40 days on the requesting line.
If the device was financed using T-Mobile’s Equipment Installment Plan (EIP), then all payments must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
If the device is on an account that has a service contract term, then at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or the account was migrated to a no contract rate plan.
If the device is associated with a canceled account, then the account balance must be zero.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
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I know the policy but I literally just did it, can provide screenshots of you really really need them lol try it, friend
princebama said:
I know the policy but I literally just did it, can provide screenshots of you really really need them lol try it, friend
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Did you call in to have it requested or did you just going to the app and tap Perm unlock?
djnikkofb said:
this is per the T-Mobile website...
Unlock Eligibility for Monthly Phones and tablets
The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at least 40 days on the requesting line.
If the device was financed using T-Mobile’s Equipment Installment Plan (EIP), then all payments must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
If the device is on an account that has a service contract term, then at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or the account was migrated to a no contract rate plan.
If the device is associated with a canceled account, then the account balance must be zero.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
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Xshooter726 said:
Did you call in to have it requested or did you just going to the app and tap Perm unlock?
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Through the Device Unlock app. I wasn't expecting it to work due to the rules, but it did
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Through the Device Unlock app. I wasn't expecting it to work due to the rules, but it did
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I think based on this experience, this could be some great news for everyone. I believe you honestly. So in a nutshell TMO rules don't fully apply to the S8 and it's unlocking policy. Thanks for the responses.
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Through the Device Unlock app. I wasn't expecting it to work due to the rules, but it did
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are you able to upload screenshots?
in the process of flashing back to tmobile firmware and ill give it a shot my self also.
ill report back
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Just tried it but didn't work says unlock failed.
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are you able to upload screenshots?
in the process of flashing back to tmobile firmware and ill give it a shot my self also.
ill report back
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Just tried it but didn't work says unlock failed.
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Done, here is the screenshot from device unlock and also proof of an eip balance. I'm pushing send on this at 4:47 Pacific time
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Done, here is the screenshot from device unlock and also proof of an eip balance. I'm pushing send on this at 4:57 Pacific time
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Wow you must have got really lucky. Ive tried it but keeps failing.. Guess ill keep trying it daily lol
Thanks
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are you able to upload screenshots?
in the process of flashing back to tmobile firmware and ill give it a shot my self also.
ill report back
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Just tried it but didn't work says unlock failed.
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Wow you must have got really lucky. Ive tried it but keeps failing.. Guess ill keep trying it daily lol
Thanks
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Yeah I have no clue why it worked. It failed on my wife's s7 edge which she still owes a little on
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Yeah I have no clue why it worked. It failed on my wife's s7 edge which she still owes a little on
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was it your first time trying it? How long ago did you get the phone?
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was it your first time trying it? How long ago did you get the phone?
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First time. I got my S8+ around mother's day weekend in May
Maximoalba291 said:
There it's a company saying that the t-mobile unlock app services are back online and they claim that they can unlock it for 45 bucks
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What company
So much I want to root my Pixel 3a but OEM unlocking is greyed out because it is carrier locked. I owe $250 to Sprint to pay it off. Would they allow it to be unlocked once it's payed? Or will I need to make up some excuse why I need it unlocked besides saying I want to root it?
Any help is appreciated, thanks
Gregbmil1 said:
So much I want to root my Pixel 3a but OEM unlocking is greyed out because it is carrier locked. I owe $250 to Sprint to pay it off. Would they allow it to be unlocked once it's payed? Or will I need to make up some excuse why I need it unlocked besides saying I want to root it?
Any help is appreciated, thanks
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My friend, it's killing me too, thinking of starting a bounty to get a work around...I just got my phone and from what I gather, once it's paid off, they will carrier unlock it and that should allow the bootloader to be unlocked as well
Would anyone be willing to throw in on a bounty to get someone to unlock it?
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My friend, it's killing me too, thinking of starting a bounty to get a work around...I just got my phone and from what I gather, once it's paid off, they will carrier unlock it and that should allow the bootloader to be unlocked as well
Would anyone be willing to throw in on a bounty to get someone to unlock it?
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I highly doubt sim unlocking a phone would allow the bootloader to be unlocked. For example the Verizon Pixel 2 XL is sim unlocked out of the box, but the bootloader to this day is locked.
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Gregbmil1 said:
So much I want to root my Pixel 3a but OEM unlocking is greyed out because it is carrier locked. I owe $250 to Sprint to pay it off. Would they allow it to be unlocked once it's payed? Or will I need to make up some excuse why I need it unlocked besides saying I want to root it?
Any help is appreciated, thanks
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You can always ask to have it sim unlocked before it is payed off. The longer you have had their service, the more likely they may be to unlock it. Once it is payed off, they should unlock it for you.
Once it is sim card unlocked, the bootloader unlock button will start working.
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I highly doubt sim unlocking a phone would allow the bootloader to be unlocked. For example the Verizon Pixel 2 XL is sim unlocked out of the box, but the bootloader to this day is locked.
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That because you have a Verizon phone. It's the only US carrier that bootlocks the Pixel phones.
You live in the Cleveland area(from your profile), so can you tell them you need a sim unlock because you got a job across the lake in Canada and want to use a Canadian carrier to cut down on costs - or even say your new(fake) employer has a work sim for you to use? It's a practical and believable excuse as people do commute across the border regularly for work.
& if the sim unlock gets you the OEM unlock option - BOOM: you're all set.
*It's just a little white lie to a giant corporation that lies to consumers all the time(sprint has the best service? my a**). You've got nothing to lose, so why not try?
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You live in the Cleveland area(from your profile), so can you tell them you need a sim unlock because you got a job across the lake in Canada and want to use a Canadian carrier to cut down on costs - or even say your new(fake) employer has a work sim for you to use? It's a practical and believable excuse as people do commute across the border regularly for work.
& if the sim unlock gets you the OEM unlock option - BOOM: you're all set.
*It's just a little white lie to a giant corporation that lies to consumers all the time(sprint has the best service? my a**). You've got nothing to lose, so why not try?
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Would saying I am going to visit Canada work?
Bob nesta said:
You live in the Cleveland area(from your profile), so can you tell them you need a sim unlock because you got a job across the lake in Canada and want to use a Canadian carrier to cut down on costs - or even say your new(fake) employer has a work sim for you to use? It's a practical and believable excuse as people do commute across the border regularly for work.
& if the sim unlock gets you the OEM unlock option - BOOM: you're all set.
*It's just a little white lie to a giant corporation that lies to consumers all the time(sprint has the best service? my a**). You've got nothing to lose, so why not try?
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I called and said I will be visiting Canada soon. Sprint said I will have no problems using my phone out there, lol. I will have roaming charges is all. Then he tried upgrading my plan, lol.
I'll say I'm going to Australia for a while. If that don't work I will straight up ask what's a guy gotta do to get that bootloader unlocked:laugh:. I'm worried that paying it off still won't unlock it
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I called and said I will be visiting Canada soon. Sprint said I will have no problems using my phone out there, lol. I will have roaming charges is all. Then he tried upgrading my plan, lol.
I'll say I'm going to Australia for a while. If that don't work I will straight up ask what's a guy gotta do to get that bootloader unlocked:laugh:. I'm worried that paying it off still won't unlock it
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Maaaan... I guess my little plan failed then. Sorry to hear that. But it was worth a shot.
And I'm curious about the unlock after you pay it off too, but I have heard in the past on some devices Sprint does give you OEM unlock once it's fully paid for. Verizon is the main carrier where you are stuck no matter what...paid off or not.
I wish the you best & hope you find a solution sooner rather than later.:fingers-crossed:
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Maaaan... I guess my little plan failed then. Sorry to hear that. But it was worth a shot.
And I'm curious about the unlock after you pay it off too, but I have heard in the past on some devices Sprint does give you OEM unlock once it's fully paid for. Verizon is the main carrier where you are stuck no matter what...paid off or not.
I wish the you best & hope you find a solution sooner rather than later.:fingers-crossed:
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I called and straight asked what I need to do to enable OEM unlocking. She said all I need to do is pay it off and it will be no problem no matter the reason I want it unlocked. Sadly I have to wait at least 2 weeks before I can do that
Gregbmil1 said:
I called and straight asked what I need to do to enable OEM unlocking. She said all I need to do is pay it off and it will be no problem no matter the reason I want it unlocked. Sadly I have to wait at least 2 weeks before I can do that
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It's been 2 weeks... any status update? I can't seem to find anyone who has actually gotten the sim unlock and the bootloader unlocked with it, all people saying that is how it is, but nobody saying they did it.
Thanks,
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any status update? I can't seem to find anyone who has actually gotten the sim unlock and the bootloader unlocked with it, all people saying that is how it is, but nobody saying they did it.
Thanks,
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Not sure what you mean. As long as we aren't talking about Verizon, there are plenty of people that have gotten their phones unlocked from the carriers and then had the bootloader unlock work. Google has simply tied the bootloader unlock to the SIM lock which makes sense because if you could bootloader unlock the phone, I'm sure there would be a way to SIM unlock it. There isn't anything special that Sprint needs to do other than SIM unlock the phone - the phone will automatically allow bootloader unlocking once the phone is SIM unlocked.
The Verizon models should be considered bootloader locked forever. There were some reports that people have been able to bootloader unlock the Verizon model, but I would chalk that up to early errors on Verizon's part vs a change in their company's policy.
If you are looking for a way to get Sprint to SIM unlock the phone, then that is another issue. Obviously the company policy is to only unlock phones that have been paid off unless there are special circumstance (ie you are traveling out of the country). I will say that calling the customer service line is the hardest method of getting a phone unlocked. The most success comes from people DM the carrier using Twitter. That must go into a different group and they seem to be much more likely to unlock a phone than the normal call center. But you are always at the mercy of the person handling the request because it is generally an exception to the rule.
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Not sure what you mean. As long as we aren't talking about Verizon, there are plenty of people that have gotten their phones unlocked from the carriers and then had the bootloader unlock work. Google has simply tied the bootloader unlock to the SIM lock which makes sense because if you could bootloader unlock the phone, I'm sure there would be a way to SIM unlock it. There isn't anything special that Sprint needs to do other than SIM unlock the phone - the phone will automatically allow bootloader unlocking once the phone is SIM unlocked.
The Verizon models should be considered bootloader locked forever. There were some reports that people have been able to bootloader unlock the Verizon model, but I would chalk that up to early errors on Verizon's part vs a change in their company's policy.
If you are looking for a way to get Sprint to SIM unlock the phone, then that is another issue. Obviously the company policy is to only unlock phones that have been paid off unless there are special circumstance (ie you are traveling out of the country). I will say that calling the customer service line is the hardest method of getting a phone unlocked. The most success comes from people DM the carrier using Twitter. That must go into a different group and they seem to be much more likely to unlock a phone than the normal call center. But you are always at the mercy of the person handling the request because it is generally an exception to the rule.
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Sic,
Wow, this is fantastic, and exactly what I was looking for. I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on buying a 'sprint locked' Pixel 3 XL because I haven't seen anybody who has actually said "Yes, I've done this." Only folks who said stuff like you, but I think I'm gonna go for it. I'm very confident of getting sprint to SIM unlock it.
Thanks again for your help.
Couldn't you just buy a sim unlock code from a service other than your carrier, unlock it and problem solved??
Is this even possible?
If you bought the phone from Straight Talk, the bootloader is not going to be unlockable.
fddm said:
If you bought the phone from Straight Talk, the bootloader is not going to be unlockable.
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I bought it from Walmart
icantchooseausername said:
I bought it from Walmart
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If it's a Straight talk branded device, unlocking is unlikely.
Unlocking the bootloader factory resets the device (wipes user data) no way around that.
Found out today after talking with straight talk that you can spend $90 to do an early unlock. I personly cant afford it rn. since im a broke collage student but maybe ill help someone else out.
bta908 said:
Found out today after talking with straight talk that you can spend $90 to do an early unlock. I personly cant afford it rn. since im a broke collage student but maybe ill help someone else out.
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That’s carrier unlock not bootloader unlock.
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If you bought the phone from Straight Talk, the bootloader is not going to be unlockable.
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Ok. I'll wait for a root exploit to get my data.
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You would have to call T-Mobile and make sure the phone is completely paid off.
Otherwise, you can search online but those sources cost money and could be sketchy.
Call T-Mobile first.
aj2019 said:
I have a bad ESN Z Fold 3 USA which I purchased from Ebay and it is locked on T-Mobile. I am using the phone in India. Is there any way to unlock it? It doesn't ask for any code when a new sim is inserted. It just shows on the top left "Network Locked".
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You would need to find a remote service to unlock it for you. They are pricey. You would need a computer with internet, and about $100 or more. This is also probably not a permanent unlock, and if you reset the device, the lock may reappear. I have seen ways to unlock certain TMB units that are rooted.
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aj2019 said:
Ah! Thankyou so much for your reply. But are these remote services temporary? Because I contacted some and paid 120USD and they say it is going to be a permanent unlock & it will take 10-15 days. Also, I had another question. How actually does this work? I mean why exactly does it take 10-15 days and what exactly happens during this 10-15 days time frame?
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Honestly, I am not sure exactly what they are doing. Each carrier lock has to be handled a bit differently.