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I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/
Go figure....
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Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
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Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.
Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah
i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
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ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!
Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
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Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.
People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.
looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.
We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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I haven't seen anything posted about this yet, but 4.3 is finally scheduled for the s3, at least in france. Hopefully by january we'll see a 4.3 rom released. I know you can get 4.3 now using AOKP or cyanogen but I actually like touchwiz so I'm looking forward to getting this.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
It says the S4 will be updated to 4.3 in October, while the S3 and N2 will be updated in either November or December, if that's true, our S3 won't see 4.3 until March or April...possibly May 2014.
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I will not believe it until I see it. I have seen many places talking about dates, that day, maybe , maybe not posted about went or went not. I think like all thing in this arena we will have to wait for someone to port it went it does finally come out . And just the fact that developers move on to other devices S4 and others it may never happen for s3. I have refuse to keep upgrading my phone and dumping so much cash for a new phone just for the newest android version. I will run my S3 until it DIES. Unless ?
Hey any in-depended rich person out there wanting to donate an S4 to me? lol :good:
I see Android 4.4 was announced we had expected the Android 5.0 release date to be some time in October 2013. We now expect to see Android 4.4 KitKat launch during that month. In the face of that point release, we think it's now likely that we'll see Android 5.0 shown in mid-2014. It a lot of babble but On 13 June 2013, VR-Zone also claimed that Android 5.0 will be optimized to run on devices with as little as 512MB of RAM.. We will see . I have doubts we will see ...
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It says the S4 will be updated to 4.3 in October, while the S3 and N2 will be updated in either November or December, if that's true, our S3 won't see 4.3 until March or April...possibly May 2014.
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If it's released in November I would expect to see it get through T-Mobile and be released to us by January, maybe February. I don't know why everyone always insists that it takes a half a year for ours to get updated, when all the updates we received from 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 happened within a few months of each other. Often in only 2 months.
I'd imagine that Samsung is going to push to get everything updated before or at least right after Christmas. The main reason we are skipping to 4.3 is for compatibility with future devices such as their smartwatch. They'll sell a lot more for Christmas if they are already compatible with the S3!
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If it's released in November I would expect to see it get through T-Mobile and be released to us by January, maybe February. I don't know why everyone always insists that it takes a half a year for ours to get updated, when all the updates we received from 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 happened within a few months of each other. Often in only 2 months.
I'd imagine that Samsung is going to push to get everything updated before or at least right after Christmas. The main reason we are skipping to 4.3 is for compatibility with future devices such as their smartwatch. They'll sell a lot more for Christmas if they are already compatible with the S3!
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If you think so Doc. I'm not getting my hopes up for it.
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And you are probably wise not to. As the device gets older, it will take longer to get any updates. If I am right about the timeframe for this one, it'll likely be the last timely update we see.
If I'm wrong and we have to wait a year, then so be it. I don't plan to let it reduce my enjoyment of the device if that is true. Never understood why people get so worked up over an update! If they're not happy with it, there's always other options available.
My only real issue is with people claiming we are always last, or it always takes 6-9 months for an update, and then feeling like that gives them reason to complain about poor customer service. Personally, I'm fine with it if it does take a year. In the end, anything and everything you see written about it, including my last post, is pure speculation, nothing more. I keep getting asked about what I expect to see though, and while I don't usually like to predict anything, I figured I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll just continue on through life with my poor outdated formerly "smart"phone! But I'll still be happy with it!
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4.3
it is out there for sure..posted the screenshot here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46094153&postcount=526
DocHoliday77 said:
And you are probably wise not to. As the device gets older, it will take longer to get any updates. If I am right about the timeframe for this one, it'll likely be the last timely update we see.
If I'm wrong and we have to wait a year, then so be it. I don't plan to let it reduce my enjoyment of the device if that is true. Never understood why people get so worked up over an update! If they're not happy with it, there's always other options available.
My only real issue is with people claiming we are always last, or it always takes 6-9 months for an update, and then feeling like that gives them reason to complain about poor customer service. Personally, I'm fine with it if it does take a year. In the end, anything and everything you see written about it, including my last post, is pure speculation, nothing more. I keep getting asked about what I expect to see though, and while I don't usually like to predict anything, I figured I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll just continue on through life with my poor outdated formerly "smart"phone! But I'll still be happy with it!
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That's the thing, I'm not complaining, I just replied with a time frame when we would get the update, no need to get upset and go on a rant. I cant even remember the last time ive actually touchwiz on my s3 for more than a few minutes, I could actually care less when the S3 is updated. I'm happy as long as there's support for cm/aosp/aospa/aokp and hopefully Ubuntu touch in the near future, but I think we have a better chance of T-Mobile updating our poor outdated "smart" phone than getting a fully working port of Ubuntu touch.
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Wasn't a rant. And it'll take a lot more than this thread to get me upset! Just covering all the bases because so many people keep asking me this. And any comments about people complaining were not directed at you or anyone in particular.
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I would think around January or February we will get the update. But also am not getting my hopes up.
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
kingston73 said:
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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The 4.3 ROMs in the development sections are custom ROMs (cm, aosp, aospa, aokp...etc). This thread is covering the 4.3 update from Samsung which we do not have.
What may be a daily driver to others may not be a daily driver for you. Go through the 4.3 custom ROM threads and read a few pages to get an idea of what issues may or may not be present and flash the one that suits your needs.
If you don't want to flash a custom ROM, then your only option is to flash the 4.1.2 touchwiz ROMs available until T-Mobile releases the 4.3 update.
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kingston73 said:
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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I would consider those to be in beta, sometimes alpha stages. If for no other reason than they sometimes have problems reading the nv data. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens enough. After flashing, baseband, serial number and imei (maybe more) all read unknown or zero. You have to either reboot several times or flash another Rom, to fix.
The nv data isn't lost, as is sometimes the case with the IMEI. As I understand it, the Rom just isn't reading it.
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Even though I'm on 4.4
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wish I knew... I loved the look on peoples faces when using it.
Larzzzz82 said:
wish I knew... I loved the look on peoples faces when using it.
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I loved that, too. It looks like Google disabled the functionality for devices that didn't get a factory KitKat ROM as of April 14th. I would post a link to the Google support page about it, but I'm too new to XDA to post links.
I started getting notices in the app over the last month, then the functionality disappeared on April 14th, just as it described. I'm not sure what the technical reason was, if any.
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I loved that, too. It looks like Google disabled the functionality for devices that didn't get a factory KitKat ROM as of April 14th. I would post a link to the Google support page about it, but I'm too new to XDA to post links.
I started getting notices in the app over the last month, then the functionality disappeared on April 14th, just as it described. I'm not sure what the technical reason was, if any.
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They want is to buy a new phone IMO
willpowerltd said:
I loved that, too. It looks like Google disabled the functionality for devices that didn't get a factory KitKat ROM as of April 14th. I would post a link to the Google support page about it, but I'm too new to XDA to post links.
I started getting notices in the app over the last month, then the functionality disappeared on April 14th, just as it described. I'm not sure what the technical reason was, if any.
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So they removed this for everyone? I thought i just screwed something up when i re set up after wiping and putting on a new ROM.
That blows. Loved being able to use GWallet.
that's ridiculous is there any sort of workaround in the works?
I've moved on to the Nexus 5 a few months ago but I don't remember that being an issue when I had the Galaxy Nexus. I was on Verizon and used Google Wallet just fine. I don't know if they updated something that broke it though.
Maybe the gnex doesn't have the host emulation thing?
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As I understand it, and I could very well be wrong, but I thought Host card emulation was a completely software driven system. No more need for the secure element on the Gnex anymore.
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As I understand it, and I could very well be wrong, but I thought Host card emulation was a completely software driven system. No more need for the secure element on the Gnex anymore.
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You are correct. If were lucky it might work again when they get the 3.4 kernel working.
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You are correct. If were lucky it might work again when they get the 3.4 kernel working.
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Still not working in CM 11 M7.
Yeah it doesn't work on paranoid now. I'm surprised not more people are concerned its this
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According to this source, LG has not released any good info on if or when we will see the update, unlike many other manufacturers have stated.
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...l-5-0-release-date-when-can-i-get-it--1257804
Yeah I saw that as well this was my first LG may be my last if this is true
Who cares until its a week plus since the other manufacturers release L? The other guys may have a approximate date but that means nothing (the past proves this statement). For all we know lg will be the first non nexus device to get it pushed out.
Good news? http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/lg-g3-android-lollipop-update-may-land-by-end-of-2014-24-10-2014/
Even once it's released. How many will actually update before a root method is out there for it. lol
Do you think T-Mobile might lock the device down when it releases this update? If they don't, does that make it easier to root? I am just one of those impatient always want the new shiny thing guys
i see a nexus 6 in my future. i am going to wait for the officail lollipop release for the nexus 4 (my back up phone) then install that, sell the G3 and put the money toward my nexus 6..... i tried but i just cant get used to the skins, and i miss cynaogenmod with a working camera.
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i see a nexus 6 in my future. i am going to wait for the officail lollipop release for the nexus 4 (my back up phone) then install that, sell the G3 and put the money toward my nexus 6..... i tried but i just cant get used to the skins, and i miss cynaogenmod with a working camera.
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Man I'm in the same boat. Using n5 and debating selling the g3. Good hardware laggy software. I'd keep it and use aosp if I knew it wasn't still a month or two away from working camera and BT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT lol just missed aosp.
I dont understand why people say the g3 is laggy. There's been post after post on how to get rid of any lag. Turn ART on. Reduce the scale of the animations. Blah blah blah. Read the forums. The phone might not be fast out of the box, but there's simple ways to make it faster. These devs will get the Roms done as long as everyone would search their forums instead of asking the same questions over and over again. Everyone is jumping ship because they don't have the ROM they want. Just be a little more patient. If you wanted a phone that's more on the cutting edge you should have bought or stayed with you nexus phone.
Really tho, with LGs last update, all that lag is literally gone.
Looks like we are supposed to get android lollipop by the end of the year! That's less than 2 months from the release! http://m.gsmarena.com/newscomm-10031.php
Confirmed.
http://www.androidguys.com/2014/10/27/good-news-lg-g3-g2-owners-will-get-android-5-0/
Yay! That is great news! It would be awesome if we got it before most of the other phone manufacturers. Thanks for the update.
This is just another rumor. "An lg rep said we should get it before the end of the year. "
That does not sound definite but at least possible, maybe probable.
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This is just another rumor. "An lg rep said we should get it before the end of the year. "
That does not sound definite but at least possible, maybe probable.
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It was posted on an official LG Twitter account. Pretty sure it's not a rumor.
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I should not have used the word "rumor" but I'm just a bit hesitant to believe anything when the word "probably" is used.
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So would this be for the international version? It would then go to the carriers after that right? From past experiences, T-Mobile has been slower than other carriers about updates
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-confirms-android-lollipop-coming-to-g3-and-g2-as-well-20141028/
I will believe it when i see it. This may be my last LG though if they dont get their update game in check. They are officially the WORST when it comes to updates IMO
frettfreak said:
I will believe it when i see it. This may be my last LG though if they dont get their update game in check. They are officially the WORST when it comes to updates IMO
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I agree. I really love the g3 but am really wanting to install a fresh rom like cloudy but am not going to bother if we are getting this update. I can't wait for this version and for someone to do a nice clean no bloat lollipop rom!
It is the waiting that makes me miss the n4 I had for almost 2 years.
At that point I seriously think our lgs will be the very best.
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/11/htc-one-m9-gets-big-camera-update/
Did anyone see this? Looks promising, i hope a dev can make a stock rooted version!
To be honest, id probably flash that update. Im in Israel and i have yet to find someone with a Java card here. Stock isnt horribleeeee but i miss Cyanogen/AOSP
Stock isn't bad at all if you disable all the crap. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact we're not getting root.
I have root. Dottat is only an inbox message and a shipping charge+donation away.
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
JelloB said:
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
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Theres four public folks with cards. Even more who aren't. There's a lot more than 100. I know a dev who already built cm for this very phone. Its not a dead phone. Its just getting started.
JelloB said:
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
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ByeBye
JelloB said:
Ok, a hundred people or so will have root. Which means there's not a whole lot of development that will be happening, so I'll just live with stock.
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I disagree, it takes time to get things going. Most the Developers (that I know of anyway) that are on Verizon have gotten their phones S-OFF, and are working hard to bring us the goodies. It will only get better from here, and those who are patient enough or don't feel like shipping their devices, will have all the goodies waiting for them, as we are working hard getting the ball rolling. It will only keep getting better and better. Even if SunShine NEVER brings support to Verizon, their any many amazing people with Java Cards who are 100% trustworthy and depending how you ship your device it can be back the same week. (I personally sent my phone out with $400 insurance on a Monday, and the phone was back in my hands by Wednesday - It was on it's way back to me with a tracking # before I even had time to see if the phone had made it!) 100% worth it, and thank you again @dottat!
andybones said:
I disagree, it takes time to get things going. Most the Developers (that I know of anyway) that are on Verizon have gotten their phones S-OFF, and are working hard to bring us the goodies. It will only get better from here, and those who are patient enough or don't feel like shipping their devices, will have all the goodies waiting for them, as we are working hard getting the ball rolling. It will only keep getting better and better. Even if SunShine NEVER brings support to Verizon, their any many amazing people with Java Cards who are 100% trustworthy and depending how you ship your device it can be back the same week. (I personally sent my phone out with $400 insurance on a Monday, and the phone was back in my hands by Wednesday - It was on it's way back to me with a tracking # before I even had time to see if the phone had made it!) 100% worth it, and thank you again @dottat!
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Great words Andy. It's only the beginning
dottat said:
Theres four public folks with cards. Even more who aren't. There's a lot more than 100. I know a dev who already built cm for this very phone. Its not a dead phone. Its just getting started.
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i appreciate the encouragement. ive considering learning how to.compile, but i dont know programming and id assume id need to know that. if its a situation of placing files in this directory and that directory, and changing paths in this code and that....i can probably do that.
Anybody knows of camera update ..is it only firmware or software for it to work. Example is the international builds we are running latest build but not firmware. Somebody told me we need firmware to see change on camera,but a really can see a difference in camera quality without the firmware
xavierxxx2p said:
Anybody knows of camera update ..is it only firmware or software for it to work. Example is the international builds we are running latest build but not firmware. Somebody told me we need firmware to see change on camera,but a really can see a difference in camera quality without the firmware
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I'm on insertcoins, don't really see much difference between
Camera works great. Here is mine.
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ByeBye
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this deters membership. this deters people from tinkering. it deters the spark required to inspire learning.
andybones said:
I disagree, it takes time to get things going. Most the Developers (that I know of anyway) that are on Verizon have gotten their phones S-OFF, and are working hard to bring us the goodies. It will only get better from here, and those who are patient enough or don't feel like shipping their devices, will have all the goodies waiting for them, as we are working hard getting the ball rolling. It will only keep getting better and better. Even if SunShine NEVER brings support to Verizon, their any many amazing people with Java Cards who are 100% trustworthy and depending how you ship your device it can be back the same week. (I personally sent my phone out with $400 insurance on a Monday, and the phone was back in my hands by Wednesday - It was on it's way back to me with a tracking # before I even had time to see if the phone had made it!) 100% worth it, and thank you again @dottat!
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100%... Should have mine back from him on Wednesday... He had it taped up and on the way back by the time ups told me he had received it! Really looking forward to the phone.
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dnoyeb said:
100%... Should have mine back from him on Wednesday... He had it taped up and on the way back by the time ups told me he had received it! Really looking forward to the phone.
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i have no option BUT to wait. i dont know of any place in Israel who has a JAVA card. i could probably take the update and wait longer for whoever comes out with the exploit for the current sw to come out with an exploit for the update. i havent decided yet. i really hope someone finds an exploit. this update does sound very promising
andybones said:
Camera works great. Here is mine.
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Meh....
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dottat said:
Meh....
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new playstore update?
dottat said:
Meh....
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Only meh....... Considering you have the magical sauce that no one else has....
aer0zer0 said:
Only meh....... Considering you have the magical sauce that no one else has....
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The camera update is in the play store now. Doesn't fix the missing manual controls in raw mode though.