Is it just me or has the amount of themes either being updated and/or coming out dwindled down? I know there are just a few theme developers and they have real lives and jobs, but before the comp there seemed to be more movement in this section. Im not complaining or anything... it just seems like the competition kinda had an adverse effect of what I ,and im guessing others, were hoping would boost themes a step forward.
Just started thinking about all this when I was reading more rumors about "cupcake" and thinking what would happen to all the current themes when... or WHENEVER cupcake is released. Im sure if it was like the 1.1 update all our phones will be naked for a few days.
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i reckon its a cupcake thing... why spend all that time creating a theme when cupcake wil be out soon and it will have to be done all over again..... maybe people also need a rest after spending so much time on the comp themes....
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i reckon its a cupcake thing... why spend all that time creating a theme when cupcake wil be out soon and it will have to be done all over again..... maybe people also need a rest after spending so much time on the comp themes....
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Yeah I think its a good way to look it. GL to all the devs who are willing or going to update WHEN it happens.
Cupcake is a big part of it, at least for me anyways. The other problem is that im not very good at making themes. I can do it but Im not creative enough to make something amazing or revolutionary but I try to do my best to facilitate those people.
I think too there was an influx once the floodgates were opened and now that its not the new things anymore people are starting to play around else where. Every phone I have worked on has always had this gap from getting the technical stuff into the artists hands.
I look forward to the cupcake but getting sick of waiting. Four months for a perfected product, and that was after it got leaked. I guess I just expected more from the devs of the G1. At least all these themes have kept me entertained.
I hate to admit it, but everyone has moved on to the HD2. They have pretty much everything working on the HD2 but there is no developers working on the Rhodium and we have no sound yet.
I really thank all the devs and everyone else involved into making Android run on our Rhodiums, but we gotta face the truth someday. It was fun and I cook WinMo ROMs for the Rhodium, but we gotta realize its dated. The only reason I still have my Rhodium is because it has a keyboard. I'm waiting for a humming bird core HTC phone with QWERTY to make the upgrade. I know some people are gonna flame. Its OK I understand you want to hold on to that Rhodium you have. We ALL do.
PS: Its sad seeing craiglisters selling Android for the HD2. I wish I could kill them all. They don't deserve any money since they did not do any of the work involved nor did they contribute ONE thing. This is why I hate scenes like the smartphone scene... People take credit for what isn't theirs.
yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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LOL
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LOL
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Keep doing what you do Reefer, I am patiently waiting for the next update!
I'm getting sick of threads on this, I'm sure devs do not appreciate them either..
Why you gotta be so negative? They are doing their best they can so why don't you lock yourself in the closet and come out of there once android has been fully ported to our device
Knappad
I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Keep up the good work. Ignore the leeches. All they do is take. They dont realize that their purpose should be to test and return feedback on the testing. Instead they seem to think that this forum is like you said, full of customer service reps. Its pathetic.
Anyhow, there are tons of people who appreciate all of the developers work and look forward to more updates.
Yea Reefer, let em have it. I wish I could help more to unlock the potential of this phone. It really is a pretty slick device that just wasn't given enough polish or muscle. I researched the purchase of it for months beforehand and don't want to just give it up now.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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+1 This is essentially a hobby for these guys....
p.s. gimme-gimme
No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
OP, there is work being done on the sound issue, however it is slow going. I try following the development, but it's WAY over my head.
Reefer for president !!!
agreed its completely dead i envy all the hd2 ppl running android
You are absolutely correct very dead. You should just get HD2s and give me your TP2s.
or pre-order ur 4g Epic.. thats what i did..
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No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
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Wrong. they make a rom and put it on here for everyone. and lets say 50 people download it. and 25 of them have a problem with it. you realy thing that a dev has time to try and fix 25 peoples problems while at the same time make updates to the roms cause your demanding them? thats not how it works. if you install a rom and something goes wrong then you ask the 24 other people if any of them have had the same problem or found a fix. your a tester. if your getting the devs work for free. the least thing you could do is test it and let everyone know how it works.
Dated but not dead.
You may think its dead but for people who still own the TP2, like myself, would like to see this till the end. I still have another year with this phone before I can upgrade and I cant fork out 500+ dollars to buy a new one like the HD2 or Incredible. I'm sure there are others out there in the same situation. So just because you were able to move on with an upgrade doesn't mean its dead.
sound will be working in a matter of time acl is making head way on it over at ppcgeeks.
Massive update 7-19-2011
Ok, still going to retain the "Better Than Life-Future Echo's", however I need to give everyone a big fat update as to what the holdup is, and details as to what has been going on.
1. Yes, I can install the rom and kernel released in the other thread just like anyone else.
2. Yes, i did a quicky rom and released it, and basically fell on my face.
3. tried 8 ways to sunday to fix my apparent screw up with the members here regarding that disaster i released.
here is what happened.......
I did my rom mods, and attempted a recovery with the Sprint GB, and while "something" worked on my dev tab, I failed to do a test install on my daily driver, I was looking at a "Ghost install" (what I call them), so basically what I released.....would never work (I know this now)
I waisted alot of time, 16 hours a day trying to polish a turd, waisted time is key word.
This is the issue with Gingerbread......
No Recovery for the CDMA Gingerbread
Same Froyo Bootloaders
Half ass root on the system + unstable or even non working root methods for Gingerbread right now
Sprint Rom with now real source for VZW 3G data, no reference that is.
So, this is EXACTLY what is happeneing right now at this moment, and has been going on for the past few days......
I am building a new Gingerbread kernel and recovery from SOURCE for both CDMA tablets.
I have 23 failed kernels sitting in my trash just from this morning.
I am a new dog learning old tricks in Development for Android, so I am thinking outside the box on alot of things, which is good.
I have help, from a very very respected and ingenious dev from this site.
I am RELENTLESS on this Kernel for us/you/CDMA, working insane hours, pissing off the wife because its 3am and im in the bed with a bright ass laptop.
So, this is what I and Team Android Door (yeah, i joined/started a dev team) are doing at this moment......
We are going to release a Gingerbread kernel for both devices with a working CWM, and I myself am hoping this gets done before the weekend, it is priority #1 for me, everything else is on hold.
Thank you for not kicking me while i am/was down, i am trying very hard.
If someone can donate a sprint tab to me, it would help with me developing and testing on that tab, i dont mind making specific roms for each device, i just need that device.
anyone that might have something for me, shoot me an email [email protected]
Jim
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Flashing now...
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Edit: Flashed in Heimdall, rebooted, stalled at Samsung logo.
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Edit 2: Flashed stock, booted with no issue. Flashed again with above, same thing, stuck at Samsung logo. Flashed back to stock, awaiting more ROMs/Kernels
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Thanks for all you do for us VZW Tab owners
I don't mind bumps in the road - makes the final result all the more exciting!
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Flashing now...
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I don't mind bumps in the road - makes the final result all the more exciting!
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Think I forgot to enable ext4 before compiling.
Gonna build an eco2 overclocked tomorrow as soon as I'm done with the gingerbread kernel
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I updated, alot of info, read the first post please
oldmacnut said:
I updated, alot of info, read the first post please
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*Wasted
Thank you for all your hard work, I'm sure it will pay off tons! Not only will you personally learn a lot, but you'll have the gratitude of every Vzw tab owner here!
Am I in or out?
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Am I in or out?
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???? huh???
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???? huh???
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NVM, I'm in. As in, in the mix. I'm not on verizon so I don;t know about their devices, but I'll bet they have a samsung device that runs android GB that we can work with somewhere.
I'm betting that if you can get a working Kernel and CWM for GB up and running, it will at least give us Sprint Tab owners a good starting point to see what works what's broken and where we stand.
This will be awesome once up and running... Sprint tabs do not have the love that GSM have.
Let me know if you need help.
OP jump on irc later today and find me...i started porting cwm to the sprint tab yesterday...maybe we can compare notes and work together...i just got my tab a couple of days ago and honestly i'm not too impressed with the dev scene for this device but i have been maintaining a kernel and working on roms for the Epic for quite a while. i spent all night with a cwm guru trying to work out a couple of bugs...
and for anyone else, there is an unofficial galaxy tab (all flavors) irc chat channel:
http://webchat.fossnet.info/?channels=gtab
or for those familiar with irc: irc.fossnet.info #gtab
all are welcome for help or to hang out
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OP jump on irc later today and find me...i started porting cwm to the sprint tab yesterday...maybe we can compare notes and work together...i just got my tab a couple of days ago and honestly i'm not too impressed with the dev scene for this device but i have been maintaining a kernel and working on roms for the Epic for quite a while. i spent all night with a cwm guru trying to work out a couple of bugs...
and for anyone else, there is an unofficial galaxy tab (all flavors) irc chat channel:
http://webchat.fossnet.info/?channels=gtab
or for those familiar with irc: irc.fossnet.info #gtab
all are welcome for help or to hang out
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Yay Rodderik! The Tab gets an awesome dev to help jumpstart this process. I'm down for testing anything you want to bounce off another Tab so just let me know (pvt.joker on gmail/g+)
I'll try to get my laptop set up tonight. I cant stop where i am in this.
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I'll try to get my laptop set up tonight. I cant stop where i am in this.
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Once the hooks are in, it's impossible to walk away in the middle..
Rodderik said:
OP jump on irc later today and find me...i started porting cwm to the sprint tab yesterday...maybe we can compare notes and work together...i just got my tab a couple of days ago and honestly i'm not too impressed with the dev scene for this device but i have been maintaining a kernel and working on roms for the Epic for quite a while. i spent all night with a cwm guru trying to work out a couple of bugs...
and for anyone else, there is an unofficial galaxy tab (all flavors) irc chat channel:
http://webchat.fossnet.info/?channels=gtab
or for those familiar with irc: irc.fossnet.info #gtab
all are welcome for help or to hang out
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I wasnt going to say anything till the kernel was complete, but i have to now so others might not waste?? their time? I dont know, but here, this should tell ya......
Code:
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PLATFORM_VERSION_CODENAME=REL
PLATFORM_VERSION=2.3.4
TARGET_PRODUCT=cyanogen_galaxytab
TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT=eng
TARGET_SIMULATOR=false
TARGET_BUILD_TYPE=release
TARGET_BUILD_APPS=
TARGET_ARCH=arm
HOST_ARCH=x86
HOST_OS=linux
HOST_BUILD_TYPE=release
BUILD_ID=GINGERBREAD
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Built......from source.
Again, I was not NOT going to say anything about this until the kernel and recovery were done. However......I needed to let you know I have been on this for some time, Rom compiled last night.
NO PROMISES on release date at this moment, it si alot....alot of work many people are putting forth right now. The team is trying to get this out (maybe, hopefully, if all goes well) before my pending arm surgery friday.
AGAIN< NO PROMISES ON THE KERNEL RIGHT NOW.
Jim
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I wasnt going to say anything till the kernel was complete, but i have to now so others might not waste?? their time? I dont know, but here, this should tell ya......
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PLATFORM_VERSION_CODENAME=REL
PLATFORM_VERSION=2.3.4
TARGET_PRODUCT=cyanogen_galaxytab
TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT=eng
TARGET_SIMULATOR=false
TARGET_BUILD_TYPE=release
TARGET_BUILD_APPS=
TARGET_ARCH=arm
HOST_ARCH=x86
HOST_OS=linux
HOST_BUILD_TYPE=release
BUILD_ID=GINGERBREAD
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Built......from source.
Again, I was not NOT going to say anything about this until the kernel and recovery were done. However......I needed to let you know I have been on this for some time, Rom compiled last night.
NO PROMISES on release date at this moment, it si alot....alot of work many people are putting forth right now. The team is trying to get this out (maybe, hopefully, if all goes well) before my pending arm surgery friday.
AGAIN< NO PROMISES ON THE KERNEL RIGHT NOW.
Jim
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That's awesome.. Can't wait for the good news of it working! And again, if you need/want someone to test on a Sprint Tab, let me know!
Keep at it Jim! Let us worry about the rom. Pvtjoker and I can come up with something then we can let some themer touch it up. Anyone wanna make a splash/boot screen? What are you calling the dev team again?
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If he's compiling CM7 from source, there won't be anything ROM wise for us to do. But we can still work on a stripped down stock rom.
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Keep at it Jim! Let us worry about the rom. Pvtjoker and I can come up with something then we can let some themer touch it up. Anyone wanna make a splash/boot screen? What are you calling the dev team again?
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If he's compiling CM7 from source, there won't be anything ROM wise for us to do. But we can still work on a stripped down stock rom.
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Team Android Door.
Spacemoose and I, and a few others whom honestly, i have not personally talked to yet, my life is so ****ed up right now, with the arms, back, etc, its just been me and dan talking right now.
I tried an ECO2 AOSP build, and it seems samsung likes to keep alot of **** out, so it never had a chance to work, and right now i am physically working on Psirens RC3 at the moment, i am actually getting ready to pull it off the tab and flash it via heimdall on my other tab, if it works as planned, its going up today. it seems alot of bugs have been worked out this time around.
my problem is, i need a PR person to answer posts, update people/etc. Im horrible, horrible at updates, i have always been the guy that just wants to be left in a dark room, left alone to work, let me work, and ill deliver the product, always been like that, even with the Film Editing, problem is i cant get my wife to post for me, so alot of you guys are left out in the dark wondering what i am doing....
Well, this coming Friday the 22nd i am scheduled for a double arm surgery to repair what's left of both joints in both elbows, tendon damage, nerves in both wrists, and muscle damage in both hands. I do not know what recovery is looking like, how long, what i will be able to do, etc. Then, possibly within the next 30 days ill be getting my broken vertebre repaired, 2 nerve bundles moved, and all 5 discs in my back L1-L5 in lower lumbar replaced, i am vert on vert with L3-L4 right now, L1 haemorrhaged, L2 broke, L3 gone, L4 herniated, L5 torn. i assume recovery from that.....might be ****ty. So i am trying to cram out these projects, the half finished ones like Psirens(ECO2), Future Echos(2.3.4), Cassandra(ECO2 w/TouchWiz4), finalise The Android Door Website, finish uploading backups and collected Android Development stuff to the Mirror, and of course maybe organise the mirror and get my mirror thread turned into a sticky.
Im doing all of this while my hands and arms are in tremendous pain, watching my 4 and 2 year old all day, dealing with my back pain, and pissed i cant go back to work to bring more income in.
Yeah, i sound ALLL ****ed up, but im not, i do get a solid 10 hours a day on the computer, if not 16, and on the weekends I usually get close to 20. It sounds worse (well, i have never fully explained what i am going through with my arms/back for a good reason) than what it is, i do get plenty of development time believe it or not.
So, that, was it, the solid truth on why some stuff seems abandoned, why i may not reply to peoples PM's or emails, or gTalk chats. Im fairly busy trying to learn the advanced things with Android, oh, get this.....lol, I sooo knew this would happen.....
So Dan is helping me, training if you will, and i am picking this up fast right, super fast, crazy theories, ideas, ports, attemopts, just crazy stuff.
So I am nagging him for what...2 weeks on building a kernel, so we do the ECO2 kernel step by step, and it doesn't work, but a week goes by right, i mean im nagging him like my daughter nags me, cause I WANT to get a Gingerbread kernel out to the masses with EXT4 and Recovery, I know this is something the CDMA tabs NEED, and I want to do this BEFORE big red releases GB for us VZW peeps.
So finally we get phone time and im downloading even more Internet (my Android Development hard drive is 1TB) and i get ancy as I dont think I am getting to soak this information up fast enough right.....so I say "screw this i cant wait" i decide to compile a custom kernel for my Ubuntu rig i use for Dev and daily use, I compiled an Intel Core i7 only kernel, managed to up the CPU freq from 100mhz to 1000mhz, tweak it just a tiny bit more, and the damn thing worked the moment i rebooted.
So now I am really nagging, trying to read more and more on trully customising a kernel for 2.3.4, so it is coming, one of probably many, and I will release a DJ11 and ECO2 set of kernels i am sure. I loved the kernel work, and probably will turn into the kernel nut job.
So, there you have it, a real update into the life, workings, mental incapacitation of good old Jim .
So, if someone really does need to reach me, best bet is to text my tab 903-647-0096, however I am not sure how fast i can respond, especially today as i am working on Psirens RC3 on my daily driver right now.
So, for now..........Im going back to work.
Jim
Jim..
Thanks soo much for your work.. Sorry for your pain, hopefully your surgery will relieve the pain and you'll have a quick recovery. In the mean time, if there's anything you need help with I'm normally around.
Not sure if this is a touchy subject but, does anybody know what happened to baked rom? It seems as if they just fell off the face of the earth....
Again, sorry if i shouldnt go in to this, i just cant find any info on them, and their wesite/ G+ hasnt been touched in months. To bad, was a great rom....
I don't think there is anything touchy about it. TravP just took a break. I remember the gap between Baked 8 and 9 was forever, and by that time a new Android (4.2?) was released. Then someone leaked BB9 to the forums when they shouldn't have and he decided to just scrap it. I still have a test build running on my Nexus S I think lol. I swear I saw someone post a screenshot of Trav running BB11 (might have even been trav himself on twitter) not too long ago, so maybe he will jump back in to things eventually. Baked is still the favorite ROM I've had the chance to run!
Thanks for the info, didnt know about that. That sucks it had to end that way, but i understand why he did it. It was also my fav rom. I would still run it if i could. I hope he does jump back into it. It would make me a pretty happy camper
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Thanks for the info, didnt know about that. That sucks it had to end that way, but i understand why he did it. It was also my fav rom. I would still run it if i could. I hope he does jump back into it. It would make me a pretty happy camper
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Trust me you wouldn't be the only one! On the GNex we had one of the longest threads in the forum going. Then our device maintainer got banned for something stupid and they locked the thread. (Mind you, this is probably 10 months after the last official release lol)So most of us just left XDA. My S4 isn't even rooted because I can't run AOKP or an AOKP variant. Damn I miss those days!
Ya, alot has changed in the past year or two, but it will get better
Completely OT but I figure why make a new thread. Couple questions for you. 1. Which N7 do you have? 2. Do you know of any ROMs for Deb that have a mutiwindow feature?