Is there any way to unroot verizon htc one and return back to stock?
How did you "root" it?
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I may have a similar problem, and for the sake of putting this all in one spot I'm going to respond here. If this would be better suited as a new thread let me know and I'll do that instead.
I have a Verizon HTC One that I had run RumRunner on to "root" it, but rumrunner got interrupted. When attempting to run the program again I get the error: 'you have stupid issues. you suck.. run rumrunner again'. I was told this error points to "non factory kernel/system". I am interested in reversing whatever happened during what I imagine to be the original failed rumrunner attempt.
Let me know what specific information you would need to help. And again, if I should just make my own thread let me know.
c_mcwain said:
I may have a similar problem, and for the sake of putting this all in one spot I'm going to respond here. If this would be better suited as a new thread let me know and I'll do that instead.
I have a Verizon HTC One that I had run RumRunner on to "root" it, but rumrunner got interrupted. When attempting to run the program again I get the error: 'you have stupid issues. you suck.. run rumrunner again'. I was told this error points to "non factory kernel/system". I am interested in reversing whatever happened during what I imagine to be the original failed rumrunner attempt.
Let me know what specific information you would need to help. And again, if I should just make my own thread let me know.
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Was your phone 10000% stock before you ran it? Did you download the correct rumrunner for your phone aka, .2, .8, .10? Mabye try to run it again after a factory reset.
Chilidog said:
Was your phone 10000% stock before you ran it? Did you download the correct rumrunner for your phone aka, .2, .8, .10? Mabye try to run it again after a factory reset.
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From what I gather the problem was the the partially run rumrunner managed to flash the kernel, if that makes sense. I have flashed it back and will be attempting to rerun it tonight. If that doesn't work I'll go the way of doing a factory reset to see if that helps.
gohardmike5 said:
Is there any way to unroot verizon htc one and return back to stock?
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So is there a way for Verizon? I've seen the RUU method been done with other carriers.
piffsta1 said:
So is there a way for Verizon? I've seen the RUU method been done with other carriers.
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There is an ruu method yes. But you have to be s-off and you have to relock your bootloader before flashing. I've done it a few times myself with the decrypted RUU Zarboz posted.
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The guy that was using this phone said he hit factory reset, When i got the phone, it was in bootloop. I couldn't get in TWRP so i re-flashed that via hboot and was able to get into TWRP, but if I wipe Data, the phone resets. So basically since all roms wipe data pertty much,m I cant flash a custom rom. I can get into TWRP/Hboot but not much else. Anyone have any ideas how I can get this back to stock, it was HTC Dev unlocked at one point. But now I dont know whats going on with it. Its going to another user so i dont care if if all gets wiped, i just need a working phone.
oh I also was going to fastboot flash an encrypted RUU from another thread in her, but it says i need to fastboot oem rebootRUU, when i do that though, the phone reboots, then goes into its usual reboot routine
please help!
krayzee said:
The guy that was using this phone said he hit factory reset, When i got the phone, it was in bootloop. I couldn't get in TWRP so i re-flashed that via hboot and was able to get into TWRP, but if I wipe Data, the phone resets. So basically since all roms wipe data pertty much,m I cant flash a custom rom. I can get into TWRP/Hboot but not much else. Anyone have any ideas how I can get this back to stock, it was HTC Dev unlocked at one point. But now I dont know whats going on with it. Its going to another user so i dont care if if all gets wiped, i just need a working phone.
oh I also was going to fastboot flash an encrypted RUU from another thread in her, but it says i need to fastboot oem rebootRUU, when i do that though, the phone reboots, then goes into its usual reboot routine
please help!
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I'd send to Sonic see if he can just S-OFF it for you. He may not be able to but I have no idea. That would be my first thought to do.
Other than than, since you are S-ON, you cannot flash the provided RUU, figure out a way to use that ruuveal tool.
If I knew how I'd be uploading it for you by now.
andybones said:
I'd send to Sonic see if he can just S-OFF it for you. He may not be able to but I have no idea. That would be my first thought to do.
Other than than, since you are S-ON, you cannot flash the provided RUU, figure out a way to use that ruuveal tool.
If I knew how I'd be uploading it for you by now.
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If I'm not mistaken and I don't think I am....
That RUU will not do anyone that is still S-on any good.
In order to flash an RUU while S-on, it must be signed using HTCs signature.
So while it wasnt that difficult to encrypt it, its fairly useless for most people right now.
So I see no need to upload it at this point and cause any further confusion.
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santod040 said:
If I'm not mistaken and I don't think I am....
That RUU will not do anyone that is still S-on any good.
In order to flash an RUU while S-on, it must be signed using HTCs signature.
So while it wasnt that difficult to encrypt it, its fairly useless for most people right now.
So I see no need to upload it at this point and cause any further confusion.
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My apologies.
It was to my understanding that you could use the "ruuveal" tool mentioned in the OP of that thread to encrypt the file and it would work for S-ON users. Not really sure why he'd say to use the tool and that it would work.. if it wouldn't.
Just my impression, again sorry if I am wrong.
andybones said:
My apologies.
It was to my understanding that you could use the "ruuveal" tool mentioned in the OP of that thread to encrypt the file and it would work for S-ON users. Not really sure why he'd say to use the tool and that it would work.. if it wouldn't.
Just my impression, again sorry if I am wrong.
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No worries...I didn't understand why the OP states that either to be honest.
I was gonna mention it in his thread sooner but since the decrypted one wasn't even up yet when I thought about it, I figured it didn't matter much.
But yeah, as far as I know, it wouldn't work while s-on.
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No worries...I didn't understand why the OP states that either to be honest.
I was gonna mention it in his thread sooner but since the decrypted one wasn't even up yet when I thought about it, I figured it didn't matter much.
But yeah, as far as I know, it wouldn't work while s-on.
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did someone flash a gsm rom on it per chance? if thats the case,its not dead,but you will need to wait for a signed ruu. or send it to sonic so he can s-off it,and then you can run the unsinged one
Is it possible to flash another RUU that is not verizon even if it isnt the correct carrier or radios with S-On and Bootloader locked? Like the Google Edition Ruu or something. I was thinking that if you flashed an RUU with a similar phone, might give a way to circumvent the Verizon issue. I think I know the answer is already know but I thought I would ask anyway. This comes from the thought process of when I had the Droid X and we flashed an alternate carriers image to get around the Verizon root issue that came with the last update. What happens if you do try to flash an alternate Ruu?
It just won't work or worse you could brick. Chances are it will fail the checks trying to run the ruu and will stop. My suggestion would be to wait for a method to be posted. Beaups may be waiting for KitKat to be released officially before posting a new method. You just never know.
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Is it possible to flash another RUU that is not verizon even if it isnt the correct carrier or radios with S-On and Bootloader locked? Like the Google Edition Ruu or something. I was thinking that if you flashed an RUU with a similar phone, might give a way to circumvent the Verizon issue. I think I know the answer is already know but I thought I would ask anyway. This comes from the thought process of when I had the Droid X and we flashed an alternate carriers image to get around the Verizon root issue that came with the last update. What happens if you do try to flash an alternate Ruu?
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If s-on it will fail because the cid will not match what's in the signed ruu.
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I have an HTC One from the Verizon network (updated today to 4.2.2) and have been scouring Google and the rest of the internet for a way to root it. I mostly just come up with guides for other HTC One models or old tutorials that no longer work. here is what i have tried:
* I tried the HTCDEV website to try and unlock it, but constantly got error 160: MID Not Allowed.
* So, I tried making the CID 1111111, but that spat out error "INFO[JAVACARD_ERR] SD/USBDISK Init error"
* I have tried using rumrunner, but it spat out that i needed root (needing root to get root, makes sense)
* I also tried using firewater (the temproot method) but that just gave me error:
"error in setsockopt().
Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred address.
Failed to get commit_creds address.
Failed to get ptmx_fops address.
Failed to setup variables."
Is there any proven way to do it? I'm at the end of my rope.
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I have an HTC One from the Verizon network (updated today to 4.2.2) and have been scouring Google and the rest of the internet for a way to root it. I mostly just come up with guides for other HTC One models or old tutorials that no longer work. here is what i have tried:
* I tried the HTCDEV website to try and unlock it, but constantly got error 160: MID Not Allowed.
* So, I tried making the CID 1111111, but that spat out error "INFO[JAVACARD_ERR] SD/USBDISK Init error"
* I have tried using rumrunner, but it spat out that i needed root (needing root to get root, makes sense)
* I also tried using firewater (the temproot method) but that just gave me error:
"error in setsockopt().
Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred address.
Failed to get commit_creds address.
Failed to get ptmx_fops address.
Failed to setup variables."
Is there any proven way to do it? I'm at the end of my rope.
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Do you mean you upgraded to 4.4.2? If so, you're SOL for now. You don't need root with rumrunner, but it's for 4.2. Firewater is for 4.3.
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brholt6 said:
Do you mean you upgraded to 4.4.2? If so, you're SOL for now. You don't need root with rumrunner, but it's for 4.2. Firewater is for 4.3.
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Yes, i was wrong 4.4.2. When will I not be SOL?
Zpersondude9 said:
Yes, i was wrong 4.4.2. When will I not be SOL?
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It just depends on when the method gets updated.
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brholt6 said:
It just depends on when the method gets updated.
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Is there a way to revert backwards?
Zpersondude9 said:
Is there a way to revert backwards?
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No, unfortunately the only way to do that is if you're s-off. Beaups has done a great job and giving us the ability to achieve s-off so I'm sure he's probably working on a method already.
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brholt6 said:
Do you mean you upgraded to 4.4.2? If so, you're SOL for now. You don't need root with rumrunner, but it's for 4.2. Firewater is for 4.3.
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Correction:
I just received a replacement for a damaged HTC One. It was running 4.2.2. I can confirm that firewater does work on 4.2.2 (and is quite a bit faster and smoother than rumrunner was).
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Correction:
I just received a replacement for a damaged HTC One. It was running 4.2.2. I can confirm that firewater does work on 4.2.2 (and is quite a bit faster and smoother than rumrunner was).
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Unfortunately for the Zperson, he is on 4.4.2.
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brholt6 said:
Unfortunately for the Zperson, he is on 4.4.2.
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Can you update me when the new S-off tool comes out?
Unless you know a person with a java card then you might have awhile to wait. It took. Awhile for us to get rumrunner and before that you had to send your phone off to a guy with a java card to achieve s off. If you desperate enough might see if that guy still has his java card. He charged 20 bucks to unlock the phone.
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Can you update me when the new S-off tool comes out?
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Why do you expect that anyone would, or should, notify you of some occurence?
I think it's up to you to check this Forum (or other sites on the world-wide web) to learn about new developments.
jpradley said:
Why do you expect that anyone would, or should, notify you of some occurence?
I think it's up to you to check this Forum (or other sites on the world-wide web) to learn about new developments.
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Dude, chill out. I was asking a favor, not demanding that someone service me. I have been checking, I just thought that if I missed something someone could help me out.
How would any of us know that you missed some bit of news?
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vzw1files DOT dyndns DOT org go here and download the stock ruu for Android 4.2 and flash it through fastboot oem rebootRUU. This will effectively downgrade you to hboot 1.44 so you can use rumrummer to achieve s-off and unlock the bootloader. Then you run the OTA to get all the new firmware and hboot 1.56, THEN flash custom recovery if you decide to use other roms. Good luck
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vzw1files DOT dyndns DOT org go here and download the stock ruu for Android 4.2 and flash it through fastboot oem rebootRUU. This will effectively downgrade you to hboot 1.54 so you can use rumrummer to achieve s-off and unlock the bootloader. Then you run the OTA to get all the new firmware and hboot 1.56, THEN flash custom recovery if you decide to use other roms. Good luck
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You'd be the savior for a lot of people right now, but I'm pretty positive you can't downgrade unless you're s-off.
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I'm talking about the legit signed Verizon OTA, wouldn't that work even with s-on? not a decrypted zip, I used rumrummer with 1.10.605.15
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I'm talking about the legit signed Verizon OTA, wouldn't that work even with s-on? not a decrypted zip, I used rumrummer with 1.10.605.15
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I could be wrong but I really don't think you'll be able to flash it if you're s-on. Maybe someone else will chime in.
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Has anyone actually tried this with the signed zip?
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Dark Jedi said:
Unless you know a person with a java card then you might have awhile to wait. It took. Awhile for us to get rumrunner and before that you had to send your phone off to a guy with a java card to achieve s off. If you desperate enough might see if that guy still has his java card. He charged 20 bucks to unlock the phone.
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Nah man, I'm not that desperate.
How to HTC one s-off and unlock????
Hay guys.
I got an HTC one Verizon version and no idea on how to:
1. unlock bootloader since htcdev gives me the MID160... error.
2. Get s-off to use htctoolkit.
3. root to use revone
So guys how am i going to get my phone rooted if nothing work?
Stock rom 4.2.2?
Any one have any solution please help.
Hello all,
I am new to all this, techy stuff, and have recently bought a htc one m8. I had it rooted for me, but I didn't want to pay for GPE. I then found out Lollipop has been released, and tried to get it by going into software info on settings, but I couldn't get the lollipop update, as my phone says 'Your phone software is up to date with the latest version'. I realised that because of my root, my phone wasn't on the same channel as it was on before. I found another way to get lollipop, but that meant buying sunshine for $25. Is there another free alternative? I thought I could unroot my phone, then reroot it, but I do not know how to unroot, get update then reroot. Can I please get help?
Hi,
Thanks for writing to us at XDA Assist, in order to help you effectively I need to know which variant of the M8 you have please.
I have the gsm version
Ok, so it's not carrier branded at all?
no its not.
Going back to my question, i have actually found out my fone is on s-off bcus i had to unlock bootloader to root, meanin my fone is rooted with s-off. However, i would like to get gpe on my fone so i can get lollipop. Only issue is, the other methods do it on a normal htc one m8, not on a rooted htc one m8. Are the nethods the same meaning i can use the normal gpe conversion methods on my prerooted htc one m8, or do i need another method?
Thanks for the extra information, I'm actually asking you these questions for a reason, XDA Assist isn't a general technical support section so I needed to know exactly which variant you have in order to have this thread redirected correctly for you.
Please standby while we have your thread/question moved to the appropriate sub-forum for your device.
For future reference you can find your device sub-forum here (bookmark/subscribe this):
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Within that section you will find a dedicated q&a sub-forum (this is where your thread is going to be moved to):
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Good luck!
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datbeastanon said:
no its not.
Going back to my question, i have actually found out my fone is on s-off bcus i had to unlock bootloader to root, meanin my fone is rooted with s-off. However, i would like to get gpe on my fone so i can get lollipop. Only issue is, the other methods do it on a normal htc one m8, not on a rooted htc one m8. Are the nethods the same meaning i can use the normal gpe conversion methods on my prerooted htc one m8, or do i need another method?
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Unlocking your bootloader doesn't make you S-Off. Boot into your bootloader to check.
To get into bootloader, turn off your phone. Then hold down the power button plus vol down till your phone boots back up. You'll get a readout there that will tell you if you are S-Off or S-On.
If you can confirm that you are S-Off, I will guide you to converting your phone to GPE.
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Unlocking your bootloader doesn't make you S-Off. Boot into your bootloader to check.
To get into bootloader, turn off your phone. Then hold down the power button plus vol down till your phone boots back up. You'll get a readout there that will tell you if you are S-Off or S-On.
If you can confirm that you are S-Off, I will guide you to converting your phone to GPE.
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Thank you for telling me. I am not on s-off, i am on s-off.i know that firewater has been discontinued, so I have found a free alternative, moonshine. Please guide me through how to gain s-off for free.
datbeastanon said:
Thank you for telling me. I am not on s-off, i am on s-off.i know that firewater has been discontinued, so I have found a free alternative, moonshine. Please guide me through how to gain s-off for free.
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Apologies, i meant to say i am on s-on. Please guide me on how to get s-off for free using moonshine please. And yes, i mean moonshine, not sunshine. Also,if you know any others free alternatives to gain s-off, please reply to me. If not, please just tell me how to gain s-off using moonshine.
datbeastanon said:
Apologies, i meant to say i am on s-on. Please guide me on how to get s-off for free using moonshine please. And yes, i mean moonshine, not sunshine. Also,if you know any others free alternatives to gain s-off, please reply to me. If not, please just tell me how to gain s-off using moonshine.
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You can't use moonshine. The ONLY way to get s-off on this device is sunshine.
Yes, Sunshine, V3. And you are better off without the 5.0, if you want to S-OFF. Sunshine will most likely work on 4.4.4, and issues will appear while trying to S-OFF the Lollipop.
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You can't use moonshine. The ONLY way to get s-off on this device is sunshine.
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Ok. Is there anyway for me to remove my root permanently and get lollipop for free? Please reply ASAP.
datbeastanon said:
Ok. Is there anyway for me to remove my root permanently and get lollipop for free? Please reply ASAP.
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yeah delete all superuser binaries, or return to your original stock backup that you made before messing around with root :laugh:
I have got my phone on bootloader, and I have a custom recovery file. However, I cannot seem to enter recovery mode. As I go to 'HBOOT' then 'RECOVERY' it shows the htc screen, but then it loads back to the bootloader screen. I have tried getting Hasoon's Toolkit and going into bootloader from here, and I have also tried getting a bat file and running that on my pc with my phone connected to it, same result. However, before this problem occurred, I had a message pop up, but this happened only once. This is what the message said:
SD Checking…
No Gift File…
Loading … ( OP6BDIAG.zip)
No image!
Loading … ( OP6BDIAG.nbh)
No image or wrong image!
Loading … ( OP6BIMG.zip)
Loading … ( OP6BIMG.nbh)
No image or wrong image!
After this, when I tried to go into recovery, the issue had then first occurred. Any suggestions on what to do? I have tried using a toolkit, a bat file, doing it through bootloader, and getting an app. Also, how can I clear my cache through bootloader?
Fastboot erase cache
datbeastanon said:
Ok. Is there anyway for me to remove my root permanently and get lollipop for free? Please reply ASAP.
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No need to unroot for OTA. And it's free anyhow.
Ok. You say no need to unroot for its, but I have my phone rooted, but I cannot get lollipop which was released 3 weeks ago on HTC one m8. Please help me so I can get OTA updates.
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datbeastanon said:
Ok. You say no need to unroot for its, but I have my phone rooted, but I cannot get lollipop which was released 3 weeks ago on HTC one m8. Please help me so I can get OTA updates.
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Depends of your carrier. They handle the updates. Just wait.
datbeastanon said:
Ok. You say no need to unroot for its, but I have my phone rooted, but I cannot get lollipop which was released 3 weeks ago on HTC one m8. Please help me so I can get OTA updates.
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You need a stock rom and recovery. So either 1 or both are not stock. Go to the thread where you have been already (the stock backup thread in the general section) and read up in there. All info and what you need to do is written down there.
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Ah just not getting notified for the update ? Like been said, wait for them to push. Or there is a custom (stock like) rom on your phone. If thats the case my first part stands
Which thread? Please send a link?
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Ok so real quick….I'm not tech savvy. I usually get the new HTC One, watch a youtube tutorial, and install ViperROM. This time around I get to the finish line and I keep getting the same "set_perm failed" …..I tried twrp hima 2.8.6.4 …still the same problem. I'm ready to give up. Please help me
We need more details.. Is your phone s-off? Also did you flash the correct firmware? And is your bootloader unlocked.
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NjEcTi0N said:
Ok so real quick….I'm not tech savvy. I usually get the new HTC One, watch a youtube tutorial, and install ViperROM. This time around I get to the finish line and I keep getting the same "set_perm failed" …..I tried twrp hima 2.8.6.4 …still the same problem. I'm ready to give up. Please help me
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What exactly is "the finish line"? Like @bigp951 said, we need more details. Please list everything you've done to this point and exactly what you're doing that returns that error.
I'm no expert but the process i used was.
- Get phone, Unlock bootloader via htcdev, (hadnt realise the sunshine apk does both unlocking bootloader and s-off at the time >< doh!), then s-off using sunshine, flash custom recovery via fastboot, flash superSU and install superSU apk for root, flash 1.40.401.x firmware with fastboot, flash viper rom (i had to do this twice as the first time an error came up which was helpfully listed in the troubleshooting section of the dev's post for viper, boom, it was all done. Backed up for safety
hope that helps you get to the source of the error.
when you say you flashed supersu and then installed supersu apk, what does that mean? I ask because when you flash the beta-superSu it installs the apk for you. But then again you had to be rooted to get s-off (someone correct me if I am wrong). Also, did you check the md5 before you tried to flash? Did you file a ticket with team viper? What was the error that showed up on the first failed attempt? Did you post on the viperonem9 thread and ask them for help? what is your cid and mid? supercid may help... and what is the current state of the phone? Is it still working?? Can you go into recovery? Still lots of questions.
If you want a clean slate to start over with find the CORRECT RUU and run it. Then you will be stock all over again (disclaimer--Find the RUU thread and follow instructions completely).
Obviously I am no expert either. I just run through the troubleshooting list when problems arise. But I try to help or point you in the direction of someone who can.
EDIT- there is also a newer official version of twrp for the m9. As @jollywhitefoot asked, you did not state what the finish line is nor what you were doing to return the error. If you installed the rom and made a backup than it sounds like the phone was working...
bigp951 said:
when you say you flashed supersu and then installed supersu apk, what does that mean? I ask because when you flash the beta-superSu it installs the apk for you. But then again you had to be rooted to get s-off (someone correct me if I am wrong). Also, did you check the md5 before you tried to flash? Did you file a ticket with team viper? What was the error that showed up on the first failed attempt? Did you post on the viperonem9 thread and ask them for help? what is your cid and mid? supercid may help... and what is the current state of the phone? Is it still working?? Can you go into recovery? Still lots of questions.
If you want a clean slate to start over with find the CORRECT RUU and run it. Then you will be stock all over again (disclaimer--Find the RUU thread and follow instructions completely).
Obviously I am no expert either. I just run through the troubleshooting list when problems arise. But I try to help or point you in the direction of someone who can.
EDIT- there is also a newer official version of twrp for the m9. As @jollywhitefoot asked, you did not state what the finish line is nor what you were doing to return the error. If you installed the rom and made a backup than it sounds like the phone was working...
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Seems like this was a waste of time drive by. For someone "screaming for help" you would think they would reply when someone tries to help them.
maybe he's asleep...lol
jollywhitefoot said:
Seems like this was a waste of time drive by. For someone "screaming for help" you would think they would reply when someone tries to help them.
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yeah, I know what you mean they ask a question and disappear for 2 days LOL
or he's thrown the phone under a bus and hates us all!!!! >< either way, there is a lot of helpful tips and tricks to be found in these forums. I think as mentioned above a good idea may be to try to return fully to stock and start again.... carefully following each step to the letter.
tomorio said:
or he's thrown the phone under a bus and hates us all!!!!
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Is that an "uh-oh" moment? lol gotta love that uh-oh protection
bigp951 said:
Is that an "uh-oh" moment? lol gotta love that uh-oh protection
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RIP OP