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Hello,
Hope all is well with everyone!
I was wondering if anyone could provide some insight on the new 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I am very interested in purchasing it, but I keep reading that there is an extremely large amount of lag associated with the device's performance, and that games do not run very well on it at all. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not? I am sure there have been updates made to the firmware since these reviews were written so I was just hoping to get a current users take on it. The device is quite expensive and I definitely would want a top performer for the money.
Thanks so much for your help!
I honestly dont mean this in a mean way but flick through these XDA pages in "General" and "Q&A" threads and you will get an avalanche of answers. Trust me going through those thrrads is miles better than giving you a reply with a few words esp considering its an expensive device.
But if you do want a simple answer then all I can say is I have played a few high graphic games and they ran smoothly and the tablet itself is pretty rapid. I am on stock so know it can be faster if I root but honestly more than happy with the performance of this thing.
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The multiwindow is amazing. Some may call it a gimmick but it is really cool.
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This tablet is awesome ...I'm rooted and running different launchers and removed all the bloat ...Very fast and beautiful screen!......Don't hesitate!
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Hello,
Thanks to all for your replies! Has everyone rooted the device? I am a little hesitant to do that because if something should go wrong, they can indeed refuse to warranty your device. I would definitely be getting rid of touchwiz tho - its really bad. Even my Galaxy S4 lagged terribly with it and when I went to Nova Launcher, problem solved! I just know ill def be playing some graphic intensive games on it too so was wondering if the good game performance was also achieved without rooting the device
Thanks again all for your help and suggestions - it is most appreciated!
I'm just going to say that if you're coming from another high end device, you're going to feel some lag. I just got the tablet and at least for me, I feel robbed. I just paid $500 for laggy software and I've had 3 random crashes in 2 days of use.
Other than those issues, the SPen features are amazing and saying that the display is pretty is an understatement. It's really an amazing display.
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abdielol said:
I'm just going to say that if you're coming from another high end device, you're going to feel some lag. I just got the tablet and at least for me, I feel robbed. I just paid $500 for laggy software and I've had 3 random crashes in 2 days of use.
Other than those issues, the SPen features are amazing and saying that the display is pretty is an understatement. It's really an amazing display.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Heh - that's what I am hearing/reading a lot of and which is making me so hesitant. The device itself has great specs and should perform amazingly, but as we know, a device is also only as good as it's software and many people are saying the stock ROM/software is very buggy and laggy and does exactly what you are saying. While changing the launcher to NOVA does take care of most of the scrolling lag (fixed the same problem on my S4 like this), it still doesn't address the lag and issues of games. I don't want to have to root the device and risk voiding my warranty to get the performance I should be able to expect out of the box for a $500+ device. As far as the SPen, it doesn't really matter to me either way.
If you just bought it and it's still doing the same things as people have been reporting for months, that means Samsung hasn't put much effort into fixing it and probably don't have many plans to do so either if it's been this long with no resolution
Thanks very much for your input!!!!!!
xgreenlanternox said:
Heh - that's what I am hearing/reading a lot of and which is making me so hesitant. The device itself has great specs and should perform amazingly, but as we know, a device is also only as good as it's software and many people are saying the stock ROM/software is very buggy and laggy and does exactly what you are saying. While changing the launcher to NOVA does take care of most of the scrolling lag (fixed the same problem on my S4 like this), it still doesn't address the lag and issues of games. I don't want to have to root the device and risk voiding my warranty to get the performance I should be able to expect out of the box for a $500+ device. As far as the SPen, it doesn't really matter to me either way.
If you just bought it and it's still doing the same things as people have been reporting for months, that means Samsung hasn't put much effort into fixing it and probably don't have many plans to do so either if it's been this long with no resolution
Thanks very much for your input!!!!!!
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I got my SM-P600 32gb about a month ago and mine has never crashed, my experience with the tablet has been good but I'm not a power user, I don't have numerous home screens full of widgets, I don't have every option turned on like zoom tilt, smart stay, smart pause, smart scroll or any of the hand motion features.
I would say that this video from "TheDigitalDigest" is a fair representation of my experience, at the 9:30 mark it demonstrates the lag that some are complaining about. Both video's are worth watching.
This video also shows some lag at the 18:10 mark.
abdielol said:
I'm just going to say that if you're coming from another high end device, you're going to feel some lag. I just got the tablet and at least for me, I feel robbed. I just paid $500 for laggy software and I've had 3 random crashes in 2 days of use.
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Compared to high-end S-800 phones with 5"ish displays, yes, the N10.1-14's transitions occasionally aren't as smooth. Compared to other high-end Android tablets, what in your view is faster? Multi View and S Pen have a ton of open processes constantly running in the background anticipating their use. So if you want "fast" strip out all the N10.1-14's features and run AOSP/AOKP on it. Personally, the sole reason I bought the N10.1-14 was because of its productivity features and what I can do with it that you can't do on any other tablet so if I have to put up with some transition lag so be it. As for "crashes" I've got 144 apps, 9 full time syncs, and 21 widgets running and have never experienced a crash, FC, or any other type of OS anomaly since October. I take that back. Initially I was using the Trip Advisor wallpaper on the lock screen and it would cause TW to reboot every other day. Once I stopped using it everything was fine.
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Heh - that's what I am hearing/reading a lot of and which is making me so hesitant. The device itself has great specs and should perform amazingly, but as we know, a device is also only as good as it's software and many people are saying the stock ROM/software is very buggy and laggy and does exactly what you are saying.
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95% of the time, and 100% of the time within a single app, there's no lag. When a bunch of stuff is going in the background you'll occasionally get a millisecond long stutter in a transition or app opening/closing. You'll also get the occasional "spinning wheel" when doing something resource intensive like capturing a full screen of content from a third party app via Air Command and moving it to Scrap Booker. I'm not even on the latest ROM (I'm on MJ4) because I have a 3G N10.1-14 and people in the U.S. have said MJ9 improved fluidity more than what I'm experiencing. There are aspects of the UI that are "odd" because a phone UI on a 10" display is a bit bizarre having nothing to do with specific h/w or s/w. But, again, I've had no OS, UI, or app issues since October so the s/w is definitely not "buggy." And I have additional radios, antennas, and s/w being 3G that add even more burden to the s/w and h/w.
Here's a vid of my N10.1-14 moving through home screens. My N3 on an official KitKat build that's running the same 144 apps is next to it for comparison. At the end I pinch zoom to display all the home pages. That is without question the worst lag you'll ever see on the N10.1-14. And it's 10 times worse than the millisecond long stutter you'll occasionally see in transitions.
If people are experiencing worse than that or constant lag I'd suggest they look at the apps they have installed, their configuration/settings, and what apps/processes they have removed/frozen/turned off. The latter is especially significant because as nested and inter-dependent as all Samsung's add-on s/w has become it's easy to disable something another app's dependent on and not know it. For example, disabling My Magazine on a device causes huge battery drain on the Galaxy Gear and issues with Gear Manager even though there's no logical reason one should be affected by the other. I'm running bone stock, have every gimmick Samsung's s/w provides turned on, am using an earlier less fluid ROM than some, and have an enormous amount of apps, syncs, and widgets running. I'm a prime candidate for "lag" and don't experience any 95% of the time. So if someone's experiencing worse than I am I'd suggest they examine what they've done to their device.
P.S. - Being 3G, my N10.1-14 is always connected to the Internet so whenever I turn it on it's always sync'd. Since most here have Wi-Fi versions here's something I've noticed. When I turn my N10.1-14 on for the first time, like after getting off a plane, and it connects to the Internet for the first time it can be painfully slow (and laggy) for as long as 15 minutes while every app and process that needs Internet access updates itself. I'd guess the same thing would happen with a Wi-Fi N10.1-14 even if it was left on but re-connected to the Internet after being offline. So there's "lag" and "situational lag." Both my N3 and N10.1-14 are the slowest devices I've ever owned when it comes to being fully usable after a reboot or going online after being offline.
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I got my SM-P600 32gb about a month ago and mine has never crashed, my experience with the tablet has been good but I'm not a power user, I don't have numerous home screens full of widgets, I don't have every option turned on like zoom tilt, smart stay, smart pause, smart scroll or any of the hand motion features.
I would say that this video from "TheDigitalDigest" is a fair representation of my experience, at the 9:30 mark it demonstrates the lag that some are complaining about. Both video's are worth watching.
This video also shows some lag at the 18:10 mark.
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I don't have any widgets , not even the stock Samsung ones. I also don't have much apps, nor any of the cumbersome SView or Motion controls on. I thought rooting and installing CleanRom would help and it really did, to some extent, but there is still some noticeable lag which, in my opinion, is unacceptable. As for the crashes, I don't know if I got a faulty unit since this is just day 3 of owning it. Maybe I'll return it and get another one, it may help with my lag too.
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Compared to high-end S-800 phones with 5"ish displays, yes, the N10.1-14's transitions occasionally aren't as smooth. Compared to other high-end Android tablets, what in your view is faster? Multi View and S Pen have a ton of open processes constantly running in the background anticipating their use. So if you want "fast" strip out all the N10.1-14's features and run AOSP/AOKP on it. Personally, the sole reason I bought the N10.1-14 was because of its productivity features and what I can do with it that you can't do on any other tablet so if I have to put up with some transition lag so be it. As for "crashes" I've got 144 apps, 9 full time syncs, and 21 widgets running and have never experienced a crash, FC, or any other type of OS anomaly since October. I take that back. Initially I was using the Trip Advisor wallpaper on the lock screen and it would cause TW to reboot every other day. Once I stopped using it everything was fine.
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On my sister's Nexus 10, for example, I notice Much smoother transitions and I've never had it crash. I hate how even with empty home screens, there is noticeable slowness (sometimes) while changing home screens or opening the app drawer. I'm still skeptical about the crashes though, since I'm the only one getting them (it seems), so maybe it's just mine. I'll return it and get another one, so I can report back and see if these issues are somewhat fixed. Still, I feel bad that I spend so much on this and it feels slow compared to a more than a year old Nexus 10 with a much slower processor. I already removed all of the bloat, except the SPen stuff, because that was my main point for getting this tablet.
BarryH_GEG said:
If people are experiencing worse than that or constant lag I'd suggest they look at the apps they have installed, their configuration/settings, and what apps/processes they have removed/frozen/turned off.
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I totally agree.
Complainers seldom admit that they made mods to the device or that they have 10 screens with 50 widgets all running at the same time, they don't admit that they installed pirated software that may or may not contain viruses or that they installed an APK that was ported from an Asus tablet because they like the way the widget looks on another brand device.
To those people it's always the device and never the user.
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abdielol said:
On my sister's Nexus 10, for example, I notice Much smoother transitions and I've never had it crash.
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There's a ton of discussion about N10's lagging. Friends have them and I've used them and the more crap that's installed on them the more they too suffer from transition stutter. The more crap that's going on in the background the greater chance there is that there's going to be some type of drag or delay in the interface. And it's not about performance because the stuff we're talking about that lags is probably using a single-core of the CPU and a small chunk of RAM. And on a Nexus device you can't even blame it on TW.
While you and Sis may not have experienced lag on the N10 others have...
abdielol said:
I don't have any widgets , not even the stock Samsung ones. I also don't have much apps, nor any of the cumbersome SView or Motion controls on. I thought rooting and installing CleanRom would help and it really did, to some extent, but there is still some noticeable lag which, in my opinion, is unacceptable. As for the crashes, I don't know if I got a faulty unit since this is just day 3 of owning it. Maybe I'll return it and get another one, it may help with my lag too.
On my sister's Nexus 10, for example, I notice Much smoother transitions and I've never had it crash. I hate how even with empty home screens, there is noticeable slowness (sometimes) while changing home screens or opening the app drawer. I'm still skeptical about the crashes though, since I'm the only one getting them (it seems), so maybe it's just mine. I'll return it and get another one, so I can report back and see if these issues are somewhat fixed. Still, I feel bad that I spend so much on this and it feels slow compared to a more than a year old Nexus 10 with a much slower processor. I already removed all of the bloat, except the SPen stuff, because that was my main point for getting this tablet.
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You could have a defective unit..... Any chance that you could upload a video to show us what you are experiencing?
I had the Nexus 10 before my Note 2014. I like the Nexus 10 but the Note 2014 is blazing fast compared to the Nexus 10. The Nexus 10 was definitely laggy and my Note 2014 has been very smooth.
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I had the Nexus 10 before my Note 2014. I like the Nexus 10 but the Note 2014 is blazing fast compared to the Nexus 10. The Nexus 10 was definitely laggy and my Note 2014 has been very smooth.
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There wasn't really a GPU available when the N10 was released that was capable of handling a 2,560x1,600 display. Mali 604 was at its max thresholds and it showed.
The Mali 628 in the Exynos N10.1-14's is about 4 times more powerful.
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I don't have any widgets , not even the stock Samsung ones.
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Did you start noticing it when you got the tablet? Why didnt you exchange it? You probably got a lemon one.
kkretch said:
I totally agree.
Complainers seldom admit that they made mods to the device or that they have 10 screens with 50 widgets all running at the same time, they don't admit that they installed pirated software that may or may not contain viruses or that they installed an APK that was ported from an Asus tablet because they like the way the widget looks on another brand device.
To those people it's always the device and never the user.
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I've uploaded some screenshots
of my home screen and apps just for your pleasure. ALL of my apps I bought them on the play store, none of them are pirated. I am not a dumb android user that doesn't know how to handle his tablet. It's my device, not the user. Thanks for your input though!
BarryH_GEG said:
There's a ton of discussion about N10's lagging. Friends have them and I've used them and the more crap that's installed on them the more they too suffer from transition stutter. The more crap that's going on in the background the greater chance there is that there's going to be some type of drag or delay in the interface. And it's not about performance because the stuff we're talking about that lags is probably using a single-core of the CPU and a small chunk of RAM. And on a Nexus device you can't even blame it on TW.
While you and Sis may not have experienced lag on the N10 others have...
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I'm just telling you what I notice. If I factory reset both tablets right now, i KNOW that the nexus 10 would feel buttery smooth while my note 10 would still feel laggy. Even dragging apps around the home screen felt laggy here. Understand my frustration, i just paid premium price for something that could be a lot better in terms of speed. I'm just telling things from MY experience with both tablets, and my experience with the OLD nexus 10 felt smooth compared to my experience here. You believe whatever you want.
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You could have a defective unit..... Any chance that you could upload a video to show us what you are experiencing?
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It's just lagginess all around and the crashes aren't really predictable. I'm not going to be able to upload a video since I'm going to flash this to stock as soon as I get home so I can return it at best buy and get another one. My unit may be defective.
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Did you start noticing it when you got the tablet? Why didnt you exchange it? You probably got a lemon one.
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It was on a sealed box. I noticed when I opened it at home. It's just been 3 days since I got it. I'm returning it today and I'll report back.
Thanks to the ones of you that can see beyond fanboyism. Some take it so personal the minute you say the device feels laggy, feeling like you've insulted them personally or something. I'll report back when I get a new one.
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Well this is my experience so far.
I've had this thing since November. Not rooted, not debloated. I have a couple of widgets etc and using Nova launcher. Nothing out of the ordinary. Running that taiwanese firmware which is the latest one supposedly. Anyway, 95% of the time in my experience, I don't notice any lag whatsoever. Even with multiwindow where I've been reading a pdf on the first half and using papyrus on the second half to take notes, no lag. This thing is a beast and the battery life is pretty good. If I could root without losing warranty, it would be perfect.
One day I hope CM11 comes to this thing because it's already blazing fast, and I would love to have CM11 to make it as close to stock as possible.
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If I factory reset both tablets right now, i KNOW that the nexus 10 would feel buttery smooth while my note 10 would still feel laggy.
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I'd guess the Nexus would be smoother after a reset. The pinch zooming of home screens on the N10.1-14 isn't any faster whether it's factory fresh or with a ton of widgets (in my experience). I don't think the N10.1-14 is performing to the full capabilities of its h/w and think interim updates that would have helped were stopped to focus on the upcoming 4.4/M-UX update. But having said that there's a big difference between that and inferring it's a laggy mess as a couple of people here have tried to do. So you're saying that based on your experience you're hugely disappointed with the lag you're experiencing. I'm saying that 95% of the time with the exception being some transition lag (especially when a lot of background processes are going on) my N10.1-14 doesn't lag. Since neither of us can see what the other's talking about you can lose the righteous indignation because me and a couple of people here are posting experiences that may be different than yours.
Thanks to the ones of you that can see beyond fanboyism. Some take it so personal the minute you say the device feels laggy, feeling like you've insulted them personally or something. I'll report back when I get a new one.
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This isn't about you. People should buy what makes them happy and if you're not happy by all means return your N10.1-14 and get something that does make you happy. But you, one person sharing one experience, can lead to this...
xgreenlanternox said:
Heh - that's what I am hearing/reading a lot of and which is making me so hesitant. The device itself has great specs and should perform amazingly, but as we know, a device is also only as good as it's software and many people are saying the stock ROM/software is very buggy and laggy and does exactly what you are saying.
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You're entitled to your opinion but if the people that disagree with you are "fanboys" does that make you and others with a different opinion "haters?" I don't personally think so and think that the (constructive) sharing of differing opinions and experiences are healthy. Everyone here's a big boy or girl and don't need you or me to tell them how to draw conclusions and weed through posts. I post counterpoint to comments like yours sometimes to give people perspective; and whenever possible pics or videos to back up what I'm sharing. I could personally care less what people here do individually (after all, there's over 4M) and whether or not they buy a product I own or are pleased with my comments. But I've been thanked a lot so I must be doing something to help people.
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I'd guess the Nexus would be smoother after a reset. The pinch zooming of home screens on the N10.1-14 isn't any faster whether it's factory fresh or with a ton of widgets (in my experience). I don't think the N10.1-14 is performing to the full capabilities of its h/w and think interim updates that would have helped were stopped to focus on the upcoming 4.4/M-UX update. But having said that there's a big difference between that and inferring it's a laggy mess as a couple of people here have tried to do. So you're saying that based on your experience you're hugely disappointed with the lag you're experiencing. I'm saying that 95% of the time with the exception being some transition lag (especially when a lot of background processes are going on) my N10.1-14 doesn't lag. Since neither of us can see what the other's talking about you can lose the righteous indignation because me and a couple of people here are posting experiences that may be different than yours.
This isn't about you. People should buy what makes them happy and if you're not happy by all means return your N10.1-14 and get something that does make you happy. But you, one person sharing one experience, can lead to this...
You're entitled to your opinion but if the people that disagree with you are "fanboys" does that make you and others with a different opinion "haters?" I don't personally think so and think that the (constructive) sharing of differing opinions and experiences are healthy. Everyone here's a big boy or girl and don't need you or me to tell them how to draw conclusions and weed through posts. I post counterpoint to comments like yours sometimes to give people perspective; and whenever possible pics or videos to back up what I'm sharing. I could personally care less what people here do individually (after all, there's over 4M) and whether or not they buy a product I own or are pleased with my comments. But I've been thanked a lot so I must be doing something to help people.
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I'm not sure how I got involved in the middle of this - I have had nothing good or bad personally to say about the device. I am just sharing what I've read from consumer/tech reviewers. I just worry because just as many people are saying that it is laggy as not. I understand there are different factors for this, but I am not super tech saavy with tablets either and just want a good experience right out of the box. While screen transition being slightly laggy isnt much of a big deal to me, what is this going to translate into when I play games, or do resource intense functions? I just don't want to spend $550.00 on something I am not going to be happy with. I also don't want to have to root anything to reach it's full potential because there goes my warranty.
Hi fellow G3ers,
I have had the device for just over a week and I must say I am very unhappy with it.
Not sure if I just have rotten luck with devices but I've had 2 Nexus 5, both of which had problems either rooted or not and no matter what custom ROM I had installed and now the G3.
I am experiencing severe battery drain, a major lag on many applications and just generally not happy with it.
Here is a quick video of my 5 biggest disappointments of the device:
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Hi fellow G3ers,
I have had the device for just over a week and I must say I am very unhappy with it.
Not sure if I just have rotten luck with devices but I've had 2 Nexus 5, both of which had problems either rooted or not and no matter what custom ROM I had installed and now the G3.
I am experiencing severe battery drain, a major lag on many applications and just generally not happy with it.
Here is a quick video of my 5 biggest disappointments of the device:
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well, you either love it or hate it!
for me is the best device i had so far, comin from galaxy S4, take some time pal, remove bloatware, get a root, there are plenty solutions for lag around here... new firmware 10g does draining more battery( UK version) but give it a week and probably a new update will come out, if dont wanna wait just get another KDZ like the one from Germany apparently is far better than UK one, and try it, if that doesnt help then go back to nexus
misiokicio said:
well, you either love it or hate it!
for me is the best device i had so far, comin from galaxy S4, take some time pal, remove bloatware, get a root, there are plenty solutions for lag around here... new firmware 10g does draining more battery( UK version) but give it a week and probably a new update will come out, if dont wanna wait just get another KDZ like the one from Germany apparently is far better than UK one, and try it, if that doesnt help then go back to nexus
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Hey,
Actually getting an S5 because of the overall package, like Amoled, dev support and various other things like IP certification.
I might try and play around with other KDZ's but really disappointing overall to have had such a bad experience with supposedly such an amazing phone.
Never played with s5... But i wanted a bigger screen in smaller package i would say.. And i really started to hate samsung for this Knox.. wait till the the phone gets unlocked and you'll see what devs will cook for this device!
I'm very happy with mine. The battery life is the best when idle. I also avarage around 6 SOT so Thats pretty freaking good to me.
Performance side, zero lag. None. I have the 3gb version which is maybe why. I would never buy a 2gb of ram phone anymore simply because something tells me its going to be the minimum from now on and 3gb recommended for future versions of android.
Design its the best and most efficient of all phones. Awesome camera. Great natural looking screen and plenty bright. Brighter than the s4. Its just a good all around package. S5 would best it if it wasn't for the design and over saturated screen though.
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Hey Everyone,
Curious to know if anyone has buyers remorse over making the switch to this device from another device?
Does anyone ever run the phone within the confines of the original OS?
What is your real world expectation 6 months from now with this device?
How long do you plan on keeping the device?
What is the most important everyday feature that is a keeper & deal breaker?
How has the form factor impacted the way you look at phones in terms of the screen size vs the size of the device?
Also as a side note. Have anyone ever worked with a fully calibrated monitor like a Eizo or a Ben-Q?
Or for industry folks, any panasonic or Sony broadcast monitors? The correlation being those monitors have the same look at least to my eyes.
Finally have you ever acquired a device that you did not initially have buyers remorse?
I have the phone myself. I am just curious to what the community at large is vibing at the moment...
I'm happy with the G3 especially the screen and camera. I jumped to the G3 from the LG Flex. Nice that the T-Mobile G3 comes with a unlocked bootloader and I'm sure development will be good with time. I'm a phone junkie and usually just keeps phones around 6 months. Jump helps with that.
Sometimes I DO regret getting this phone. It's a good phone, but it's just not the earth shattering, mega phone I was hoping for. Even rooted with no bloatware, i still experience lag, freezes, and subpar battery life. Also, maybe it's just my device, but I'm really not impressed with the screen at all. The blacks seem way too "milky", and i really can't see the difference between this and a 1080 screen, except for when I look at certain photos or videos.
The camera is nice for a 13mp shooter. That's really the main positive.
I returned it after 2 weeks. To many performance trade offs for the QHD screen. Once the more powerful phones hit later this year (Shamue and Note 4) the G3 will struggle. Although that's why the Prime is being released.
Curious what other 5.5" screen are you comparing it to?
Me too returned it after 2 weeks, and the reason was just the screen, everything else is great.
First, couldn't stand this yellowish tinted screen and the poor blacks, and second because of the lag/stuttering
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
As I never used dual window, I can't say if it lags there...
Most annoying was the stuttering to me, and this happened nearly everywhere, transitions, scrolling...
But Lg will fix it sooner or later I guess.
As I wrote, the main reason for returning it was the display...
grifter9931 said:
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
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Some people have the G3 lag some don't. I don't notice any lag. From what I read on here the lag is simple fix by changing the launcher and or a setting or two. Removing bloat helps too.
My screen is bight and battery is good enough for me. I guess I was lucky and got a good G3.
As far as the G3 being a "wow" phone it's not but I think those days are over for phones. I was going to wait for the Note 4 but after seeing the leaked pictures I think I'm glad I didn't.
Got the D855 32GB..
All I can say is, I'm so glad i didn't put much attention on others negative opinion about the device...
We all knew it come's with QHD display before buying it, I don't get why too many about it...
As of me, I'm very happy with it... Coming from nexus 7 2013, my criteria for next device was, at least 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage with external (a 64gb internal w/o ext is also okay)... Just saying by the way. =)
There are always those people who have remorse after buying a device by the way..
I've come from an iPhone 4S!:silly:
I bought the International version with 32GB and the 3GB ram (F400S) and I've not found it laggy at all, even with the all the Korean bloatware apps on there.
The main reason I purchased it was because I was so impressed with the LG G2 that I bought for my wife a few months back, just loved the design and screen.
Hopefully when the "Ints" get their bootloader unlocked and we can nandroid backup and get some cool roms (come on PardusHD!) then it should run even smoother.
The battery life isn't as good as I expected, but then I'm usually charging using a USB port (500mAH) so it will take ages and I've hardly ever had it at 100%:laugh: but it's way better than the iPhone 4s battery life.
I'm a little disappointed in the screen, I don't find it as "bright" as the Samsung S ones, I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%.
Overall design is nice and it's very light. I'm not a fan of big screens, but then that's the way they're all heading nowadays....
flapmio said:
I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%
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Sole reason of fast battery discharge
I don't have this phone yet but I know the 32g has 3 gigs of ram and the 16 has 2 gigs. Might be why some suffer lag. Make sure when comparing you specify which version folks
Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
I don't have buyer's remorse exactly, but I'm not thrilled with the device in every way. I like the camera a lot better than the one on my HTC One M7, and the G3 battery life is better than my M7. That's really it. My M7 felt snappier in every way, and the screen looked better. Once the Nexus 6 comes out I will likely sell the G3 and pick one up. I just can't stand all this locked bootloader nonsense and the lack of development that occurs as a consequence.
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
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TY I am trying to recreate the stutter as we speak... Interesting stuff
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Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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I noticed a few myself. I wonder why the reviewers did not mention the stuttering.....
I have been using Galaxy S3 for the last 2 years, along side 7000 mAh zerlolemon battery.
overall my experience with it, considering it was my first smartphone, was OK.
but now I'm looking for:
a bigger screen & a good looking one! (5.5"+)
better camera (S3's camera sucked!)
better speakers & sound quality overall (i watch YouTube a lot at work, some /movies/TV show as well)
newer & less laggy hardware (S3 is just to old, although i run custom roms on it!).
removable battery & SD card storage.
the LG G3 seems to answer all of my wishes from a new smartphone. but i read about a lot of bugs & defects complaints using google search, which scares me a bit!
what do you guys think? would love to hear your opinions, which will be more valid then online reviews of short use since you had the phone for longer time! good & bad stuff.
I probable will buy the 32GB storage unite, since it has bigger ram & the extra 16G will do only good since the camera files will be heavier compared to the S3!
thanks in advance .
I had used S3 for nearly 2 years as my daily driver and it was a pretty good piece because of it's customizability. But, recently I received the G3 as a birthday gift and even though it's design and hardware impressed me, i felt like something is missing. Sure, it has that beautiful screen, sexy curves, overall amazing design, and an amazing camera but the UI tends to stutter a lot which is really wierd considering the amount of power the snapdragon could deliver. It should have been a child's play, but apparently it isn't. Also, the display has an exagerated software applied sharpening, which to this day i still can't see the benefit of it making your fonts at different sizes look ugly. Furthermore, the hardware gets sometimes so hot from simple tasks making it simply unbeareable for your hands.
When i encountered ocasional lag with my S3 i understood that I was asking too much from an old hardware, but i never expected a new-gen phone to behave like this. We will have to wait and see what improvements the custom roms could bring to the table.
If you spend a lot of time watching and listening videos, the speaker does it's job honorably while the so called premium headphones felt less dynamic than the S3's. At this point, the M8 could be a better deal it's only downside being the display size (- 0.5'' ).
To be honest, I still dont know what to say. I guess i have big expectations from a flagship.
I strongly suggest trying the phone before buying it.
Since S3 is only phone you had any upgrade will be good. Just choose what do you prefer in phone. Htc for speakers, G3 for screen, samsung for water resistance. Battery life and performance are pretty much same for all of them. Try them out all and you will see which one suits you best
I used to have S3 too, only thing I miss is very black screen. But that's about it. G3 is better in every way.
If you dont care about your phone being outdated fast, you can also get Z3
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I myself have switched recently from S3 LTE to the G3.
On the S3 a lot was possible with mods, ROMs and solutions from this great community :good: , it was and is a great phone.
My impressions on the G3 in comparison to S3 LTE are:
+ good speed and responsitivity
+ larger screen is nice
+ input handling (touch screen) seems more responsive to me
+ good signal qualities
+ excellent battery life
- community much less developed (no wonder, its pretty new and bump! is just out)
- wireless charging much more fidgety
- considerable more bulk (well, can't have it all )
- display is not as crisp and bright as with S3
Overall I am happy with the new phone and not looking back.
Axel
Great summary ccs16rocks. My feelings are exact to yours. In order to reduce many of the issues you identified, I had to root, modify, etc but this has not fixed all of the issues. I've changed my framework to ART and launcher to Nova, disabled all animations, scaling, etc. as well to help with stutter and slow downs, that helped dramatically.
After all of the work that I've put into the phone, there are still some things that I cannot fix or improve and I don't think they can be.
-Camera speed: I'm used to iPhone 5/6 performance/speed. There are apps that can speed up shooting, but none can reach the speed of an iPhone. Luckily there are tons of apps out there, if you have the time to try them and find the right one. I've been through a bunch so far and The apps that do work well (speed/performance), usually don't have any other features that seem practical to have integrated into the app. (video, square, panorama, etc)
-Battery life: I'm using a variety of tools/task killers/etc to minimize what's running, eating battery life or slowing the phone down. This varies and I can't seem to find a real solution to extending battery life any longer other than just not using the phone :laugh:
That being said, I'm happy with the phone. The hype over the quality of the camera is odd to me though. Primarily because it's nice, but it isn't that great. Maybe it's better than other Android camera phones?
Another major concern is, with all the rooting/hacking/modding I've done to get the phone to operate more efficiently, I'm curious as to how I can upgrade to Lollipop when it comes out, since LG G3 handsets are getting it soon
Just want to thank everyone who replied .
after reading your comments, i decided to stay with the current S3 and skip the LG G3. although it's specification sound perfect for me, i just don't want to risk getting a new phone with all this possible bugs and defects! I will just wait until the note 4 or nexus 6 drop to a normal price in my country, don't mind waiting 6+ month for that. it's not like the S3 is a bad device, it does the job well enough for now.
If you read enough stuff on the internet ALL phones have stuff wrong with them - To me the G3 has some minor software hic ups with its launcher, nothing that makes it worth not buying.
Make sure not to buy the 16GB version, because the lag is REAL. The colleague from the USA might be delighted with the their 32GB beasts, but as for european costumer who are offered only the 16 giggs... Id be better without it. Seriously guys the europeen version is crap without any serious modifications!
The G3 is a wonderful device. As well I just wanted to say not everybody's phone laggs. I've had my G3 since launch and I only experienced very minimal lag and once I rooted and made a few small changes in trickster mod it's been nothing but good times.
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Make sure not to buy the 16GB version, because the lag is REAL. The colleague from the USA might be delighted with the their 32GB beasts, but as for european costumer who are offered only the 16 giggs... Id be better without it. Seriously guys the europeen version is crap without any serious modifications!
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In EU 32GB with 3Gb RAM version is also available.
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In EU 32GB with 3Gb RAM version is also available.
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Well its not available in SPAIN and Bulgaria carriers.
Hi. Im in the Army and found out Im going to Afghanistan soon. I am looking for an android tablet/hybrid (not looking for a Surface) to hold me over until I we get things set up and I can have my wife ship my gaming laptop over (which is why i dont want a Surface, as I already have a windows device). what I need it to do: read comics, read ebooks, watch videos (by that I mean mostly 1080p 10bit x265 HEVC videos), play games, and skype. ok, the comics, ebooks, and skype dont need much hardware for that, but the videos and games need a good processor. So far I've read the wifi sucks...and other say that the wifi doesnt suck, that it has issues playing games and others say there isnt an issue playing games, etc. Can someone give me their opinion on if this would meet all my needs. Thanks for your help.
howdy, this would meet all your needs, wifi only has issues if you are at a distance from access point and seems to only affect in higher bandwidth internet connections. (hasnt had any effect on mine but im less then 30 meters from AP with adsl connection).
the screen ratio is really good for reading comic etc, wide screen movies have bars but most tablets do this, these days
performance wise this is still the strongest android tablet on the market, will run everything no problem
battery life is pretty good on this tablet too easy get 11 hours screen time over a 3-5 day period on a single charge.
ive said this before but i have owned every major android tablet release from nexus 7 onward and normally get disappointed and sell after a few months but the pixel c really has given me no regrets and would highly recommend it
Thanks for your response. I do like 4:3 ratio-type tablets better than wide-screen for books and comics. I doubt where I'm going there'll be high bandwidth Internet anyway. Lol
Ive had zero issues with mone from the beginning so i dont really know how much i can add. The screen is great and battery life is superb. Its done everything ive wanted.
I bought one and it's to be delivered tomorrow. I'm coming from a Nexus 9, which I really like, but wanted a change. If for some reason the Pixel C is not what you were looking for, the Nexus 9 is a really good device that will easily do what you seem to want to do with a tablet, plus they've really come down in price lately.
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I bought one and it's to be delivered tomorrow. I'm coming from a Nexus 9, which I really like, but wanted a change. If for some reason the Pixel C is not what you were looking for, the Nexus 9 is a really good device that will easily do what you seem to want to do with a tablet, plus they've really come down in price lately.
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I actually was looking at the Nexus 9 with its keyboard as a 2nd option. saw them for decent prices on Amazon. but, im pretty sure im gonna get the Pixel now since it is new and hoping that Google keeps improving it with updates.
It's a great device, get it.
In my opinion, it's a device that's not ready for prime time. There are issues or have been issues with almost every facet of this tablet from build quality to touchscreen issues to display quality to keyboard support and still currently major wifi issues. One of the reasons I cannot recommend the device. For now, the best android tablet is the tab s2 9.7 inch, you get the 4:3 display, a super amoled screen which makes reading easier. A stable device with fast wifi speeds and one of the lightest tablets out there. For extended all day battery life, keep the display brightness on 40 to 50% and all battery life concerns are solved. You will get all day battery life with this setting. There is also microsd card support if you want added memory.
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I think the no BS answer is that you are rolling the dice. If it works for you, it's an excellent device, although the keyboard is (still) a little glitchy. If it doesn't, you'll be in Afghanistan coping with a device giving you stupid problems. Have a good backup system.
Since I just applied another software update a few minutes ago (March 1 security patch), I will add that the reason I rolled the dice on the Pixel C was exactly that -- the promise of future software updates and the hope that the initial glitches that have been plaguing some people would eventually be fixed. I just read an Anandtech article saying that the Feb update fixed many of the touchscreen issues they were having, which is good news.
on 5Ghz wifi, and no problems. Wifi range is predominately determined by the Wifi router, not the Wifi device...
I really like the Pixel C. However it's the wrong size/format for single handed traditional tablet use. But it sounds like you have already decided to get it with the keyboard, so thats not an issue.
The hardware build quality is amazing, I think you will be pleased with it. make sure to get the latest OTAs it makes a huge difference to the device.
Bought in Dec with the keyboard or whenever it came out and ended up sending it back. It didn't seem ready for prime time. Laggy and stuttery screen pick up.
Excellent build quality for both the tab and the keyboard.
Just purchased with the discount and updated to the latest 6.01 and its great. Very responsive so far, with none of the initial issues. Never had wifi issues but am not far from the router, so likely why.
Didn't get the keyboard this time as overall the two together it was quite heavy, it had no backlit keys and disconnecting from the tab always made me feel like I was going to scratch the screen. Likely wouldn't of happened but didn't feel right. As well as I didn't think it was worth the £120.
@jeebugorn - Not sure if you ever got it, but perhaps also consider Remix OS running on your Pixel C.
Here are the download links and the tutorial on how to flash:
Pixel C: http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/pixelc
Nexus 9: http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/nexus9
Tutorial on how to flash onto your device:
https://jide.zendesk.com/knowledge/a...rand_id=449827
Thanks!
I really, really like the Pixel C. I like it so much that I hope my 4th one works. The first one died after one day. The second one died after several months. The third one died after one hour.
I've been debating whether I should actually keep the next replacement when it arrives or sell it while it's still sealed in the box and get something else.
I don't mean to hate on the product or on Google. There must be a large majority of people who just get them and use them without any big issues.
If it doesn't die it's a terrific device. Despite my exasperating experience I'm still going to give it one more go because I don't know of a better tablet I'd get instead.
Mine works fine, but I mostly use it to read comics, so my main concern was the screen - and for an LCD it is amazing. I'd love to upgrade to a tablet with AMOLED display in the future. One thing I have noticed though is that it is strangely sluggish - my Note 4 (having almost the same resolution and older SoC) seems much, much faster. I don't know, maybe WiFi is the reason? But it seems to be doing OK.
The keyboard is quite bad though, I end up using a Logitech bluetooth keyboard instead most of the times.