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Hello all,
So after updating my Lumia 710 from Rogers, in the "About" screen of the Diagnostic Tool I see that I am on FW revision 1600.3007.7740.11465. This is a few versions behind what seems to be the latest version out there for unlocked variants of the phone...
So I found this page:
http://www.wpcentral.com/hack-t-mobile-lumia-710-flash-windows-phone-os-8107-new-firmware
Which claims that they have flashed the latest Indian firmware (8107.12070) for the RM-803 variant of the phone onto the T-Mobile (RM-809) version. However I am somewhat reluctant to try flashing an RM-803 image onto an RM-809, especially due to the fact that they support different 3G bands. What do you guys think?
Alternatively, I can see in Navifirm+ that the latest available image for the RM-809 is the Australian 8107.12050, so that might be a safer choice?
This will be the first time I try to manually update a Windows Phone... So what do you guys think? I really want to update it since there are some GMail syncing issues on the build that I'm running now.
I updated my lumia 710 from rogers (RM-809) with the RM-803 indian rom 12070 with no problems! Nothing is missing and it's now unbranded If you follow this guide it's really simple!
Thanks, Simon!
After reading your post, I gave it a shot and everything seems to be working fine I wonder if we should be seeing any battery life improvements like the Lumia 800 users?
Just something I should mention, though: I unlocked my phone so that I could use it on Wind Mobile, but after going through the flashing process, the phone became locked again so I had to re-enter my unlock code.
I didn't know that it was even possible for a phone to become locked again, after already having been unlocked...
I am thinking about getting a Lumia 710, and I am really surprised that you guys were able to flash a firmware from another RM-### without bricking the phone.
I currently own the X7 (RM659) from the Rogers and I was told not to flash the Belle firmware from the X& (RM707) since the phone will get bricked.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the info.
Which software do you use to flash? Phoenix or WP7 requires other tools? Never mind I found the post detailing how to debrand it.
The weird thing is... I tried to downgrade from the Indian (RM-803) 1070 build to the Australian (RM-809) 1050 build, and I wasn't able to...
It seems there is a small battery bug (Diagnostic tool doesn't display battery info) so that's why I tried to install the Australian one instead.
Whenever the next update comes along, I hope I'll be able to switch back to an RM-809 build... It seems like the safe way to go.
xsever said:
I currently own the X7 (RM659) from the Rogers and I was told not to flash the Belle firmware from the X& (RM707) since the phone will get bricked.
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Normally you shouldn't... But the only reason I did it is because other people had successfully done it.
Also keep in mind that Symbian phones seem to be a little pickier - you can brick them just by trying to downgrade to the previous OS.
Edit: Well that's weird... My Battery Status randomly started working!
Edit #2: I just remembered I did a battery pull, so that may have had something to do with why it is fixed now...
I never knew it was possible to downgrade the OS for Nokia phones whether it is Symbian or WP.
Would an unlocked T-Mobile Lumia 710 work fine on the Rogers network? Do the GSM bands match?
It would indeed. The RM-809 model supports HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100. So it will work on any of the North American operators. (excluding the cdma operators like Verizon and Sprint, of course)
Actually, I bought my Lumia 710 from Rogers, unlocked it, and I am using it on Wind Mobile now (same hspa band as t-mobile).
Edit: I hope you're right about the downgrading thing, since that would mean that the reason I wasn't able to flash back to RM-809 was because of the fact that it's a downgrade, as opposed to something being messed up on the phone! I guess I'll find out when the next update comes along.
I am 100% sure you cannot downgrade Nokia firmwares without bricking the phone. I read about one method somewhere, but it was very complicated.
If I were you, I wouldn't be worried, now that you have the RM-803 firmware, next time there is an RM-803 update, you should be able to update via Zune/Nokia Suite without having to go through the method you used at the beginning of the post.
Now your phone is an RM-803 so Zune will recognize it as so and update it normally hence the beauty of debranding where you don't have to wait for operators.
Hello guys i'm new to the site.
I want it to ask if i could flash my lumia 710 (t-mobile US) with the RM-809 VAR T-MOBILE BLACK version that appears in navifirm.
my nokia is DLOAD. Would that be a problem?
kortvolker said:
Hello guys i'm new to the site.
I want it to ask if i could flash my lumia 710 (t-mobile US) with the RM-809 VAR T-MOBILE BLACK version that appears in navifirm.
my nokia is DLOAD. Would that be a problem?
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I was wondering that too.
Also, there's two T_Mobile 8773 fw's listed for each color phone. One appears to have been released 06/04/12. The other 05/29 . What's the differences?
Ok I just got a really sweet deal
150$ brand new in box unlocked Lumia 900 Black... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the only thing is...its branded to TelCel mexico
Are the roms in the dev sectoin interchangeable?
Will flashing another rom re-lock my device?
Also any idea why LTE would not show up on my device...its marked 4G
I got the right sim from my provider, and I am in an LTE area
THank you all in advance if you can provide me any insight regarding these questions
rob243 said:
Ok I just got a really sweet deal
150$ brand new in box unlocked Lumia 900 Black... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the only thing is...its branded to TelCel mexico
Are the roms in the dev sectoin interchangeable?
Will flashing another rom re-lock my device?
Also any idea why LTE would not show up on my device...its marked 4G
I got the right sim from my provider, and I am in an LTE area
THank you all in advance if you can provide me any insight regarding these questions
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Not sure about the interchangeable ROMs. But as far as I know Telcel don't sell Lumia 900s that supports LTE.
Heck, not even the iPhone 5 is LTE at the moment. However iPhone 5 can be upgraded to LTE with a software update.
Cheers,
Rayan
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Ok I just got a really sweet deal
150$ brand new in box unlocked Lumia 900 Black... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the only thing is...its branded to TelCel mexico
Are the roms in the dev sectoin interchangeable?
Will flashing another rom re-lock my device?
Also any idea why LTE would not show up on my device...its marked 4G
I got the right sim from my provider, and I am in an LTE area
THank you all in advance if you can provide me any insight regarding these questions
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If you have 4G on your screen it is LTE, if you see H is HSPA,
I have a Rogers Lumia 900 LTE from Canada, and I had a lot of connectivity issues, I loaded it with Telcel MX firmware and I can tell you its the best ROM available.
1.- Fixed all Connectivity issues
2.- APN settings, including MMS are automatically detected
3.- Removed all Rogers Branding (Rogers Lumia 900 doesn't have any branding on the exteriors, so after flashing with Telcel ROM its like a new factory unlocked device with no branding at all)
4.- Telcel ROM doesn't have any operator custom preloaded apps
5.- The only thing I was nervous was the disappearance on the LTE logo, but apparently they only replaced LTE and HSPA+II by 4G.
6.- Internet Sharing started working (Didn't work with Rogers Firmware with my current carrier CLARO)
There si another post that mention this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905734&page=2
Bottom line, stay with it, it works great!!
thanks alot
Thanks alot for this, I did notice that the telcel rom has no carrier branding, and after reading all your points concerning rogers rom I am definately staying with this one "if its not broke - don't fix it" very helpful post mods feel free to close this thread.
When you changed ROMs, did you run into a signature error? How did you overcome that? It seems some handsets are tied to their specific carrier -- short of upgrading with a same carrier ROM, the update fails with message 'problem with file signature'. or something along those lines.
Cheers
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When you changed ROMs, did you run into a signature error? How did you overcome that? It seems some handsets are tied to their specific carrier -- short of upgrading with a same carrier ROM, the update fails with message 'problem with file signature'. or something along those lines.
Cheers
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I have a Rogers phone that is unlocked and being used on Bell and it is flashed with this rom as well. I used Nokia Care Suite and got the rom through the data package manager. It flashed without any problems. There haven't been any updates through Zune yet so I don't know what will happen when 7.8 is released. If it doesn't do the update automatically I'll just update it again through Nokia Care Suite.
aquanaut88 said:
When you changed ROMs, did you run into a signature error? How did you overcome that? It seems some handsets are tied to their specific carrier -- short of upgrading with a same carrier ROM, the update fails with message 'problem with file signature'. or something along those lines.
Cheers
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Didn't happened anything like that to me, just looked for my RM in Data Package Manager downloaded the latest one and loaded it using Nokia Care Suite
Thanks... glad it at least works for the Rogers devices. I'm guessing there's something added to the AT&T versions which prevent swapping carrier ROMs, even within the same RM group.
I've tried modifying the product code both in the file names and within the files. Still fails with file signature error.
aquanaut88 said:
Thanks... glad it at least works for the Rogers devices. I'm guessing there's something added to the AT&T versions which prevent swapping carrier ROMs, even within the same RM group.
I've tried modifying the product code both in the file names and within the files. Still fails with file signature error.
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I have the same issue, maybe try flashing it to an earlier ROM from AT&T that doesn't have that limitation?
Doing a field exercise with my unit so it may be awhile before I get to try it myself.
I actually tried that a week ago... rolled AT&T rom back to 8112 (nothing earlier available on NaviFirm list). Same complaint.
Well here it is, i'm downloading now. Mostly EU and Finland...I'm in AU but going to try finland.
Hi i have a nokia lumia 900 from att can i download this rom ????
aggelosss5 said:
Hi i have a nokia lumia 900 from att can i download this rom ????
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Not until the at&t variants are released.
Rm-823 is released AT&T is an rm-808
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Has anyone tried installing the 823 onto the 808? i would be curious to know what happens or what the changes are? In a lot of industries, the model changes but the inards don't.
It will not flash the 823 to an 808. You can pick the rom, but when it tries to flash it barfs.
YEah in this case they are different hardware. from what i can figure the RM-823 has the GSM, 3G and HSDPA bands where the RM-808 has the 4G/LTE bands. In most cases Lumias have all radio and enabled by software but not so with the AT&T models.
so there are loads on there now which make me think that they are getting ready for roll out, would be a nice Chrimbo present.
2 Questions, if you see an EU variant for White, will it work with an EU phone? My current is
Type Designator RM-823
Model Name NOKIA Lumia 900
Product Code 059P5N9
Software Version 2175.2503.8779.12301
Next question is looking on xda etc I must be blind, I see lots of people say they are rocking 7.8 but can not how to get to it. Any pointers to a good post would be happily received.
Cheers
Just finished installing Software Version 2175.2905.8858.12480, Finland variant and apart from some confusion with the Finnish language (until I could change it to English) when first starting up it seems to be running fine.
So far all I've tested is connecting WiFi to my wireless network and then wirelessly tethering the phone to my laptop and it all seems to be working as it should.
Will do some more testing of various functions and let you know if there are any problems.
Now to setup my Home screen tiles properly (finally)
scottietohottie said:
so there are loads on there now which make me think that they are getting ready for roll out, would be a nice Chrimbo present.
2 Questions, if you see an EU variant for White, will it work with an EU phone? My current is
Type Designator RM-823
Model Name NOKIA Lumia 900
Product Code 059P5N9
Software Version 2175.2503.8779.12301
Next question is looking on xda etc I must be blind, I see lots of people say they are rocking 7.8 but can not how to get to it. Any pointers to a good post would be happily received.
Cheers
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Check here mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35452034&postcount=228
Also as long as it's an rm-823 and the country variant has the same bands as your country then your all good. Worst thing that can happen is your reception won't be as good if the variant you flash from does not have the same bands.
If it doesn't work well, just reflash a different one, all good
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Hi i have a nokia lumia 900 from att can i flash a diffrent variant 823 to my phone ??
aggelosss5 said:
Hi i have a nokia lumia 900 from att can i flash a diffrent variant 823 to my phone ??
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No. Not even when the RM-808 is out. It HAS to be the at&t version. Rogers won't flash on a at&t RM-808.
norgan said:
Also as long as it's an rm-823 and the country variant has the same bands as your country then your all good. Worst thing that can happen is your reception won't be as good if the variant you flash from does not have the same bands.
If it doesn't work well, just reflash a different one, all good
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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So I have tried to just flash it in the care suite, I have tried
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Learn-giffgaff-Top-Tips/HOWTO-Debrand-your-Nokia-Lumia-800-Giffgaffers-guide/td-p/2891451
All to no avail, I have checked the base bands the UK and Switzerland should be using the same bands, but I can not get it to work. Any ideas?
I am stuck
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Hi there
Can i flash this version 059P6G1: RM-823 VAR EU NO CV CYAN
My original version is this 059P6K7: Nokia 900 RM-823 Country Variant United Kingdom GB V3 CYAN
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Update
I flash it and everything is ok.
No BT share or any other goodies.
Only Start Screen
vangel161 said:
Hi there
Can i flash this version 059P6G1: RM-823 VAR EU NO CV CYAN
My original version is this 059P6K7: Nokia 900 RM-823 Country Variant United Kingdom GB V3 CYAN
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Update
I flash it and everything is ok.
No BT share or any other goodies.
Only Start Screen
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Did you simply download and flash? I cannot seem to get it to work as the number is different. :'(
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Scottie, untick automatic product selection
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7.8 App
successfully updating my 900 to 7.8..mine is from Singtel Singapore..and no..my variant is not out yet..but i just flash it using Sweden variant and all i can say is everything work like a charm.. except theres no Bluetooth file sharing and ringtone maker yet..i think, its unfinished rom @[email protected] using Windows 8 x64.
Ps: anyone getting their Lumia not recognize by the NCS, try this:
1. Install the driver from Programfiles/nokia/nokia care suit/ driver..install everything, be sure for ur x86 or x64.
2. Restart windows.
3. Avoid using any USB 3.0 when connecting ur phone to ur PC/Laptop.
Edit: as i read on some others article, theres someone that said their 7.8 have the Bluetooth file sharing and ringtone maker..and most of them using India variant..but, too lazy to flash again xD anyone care to try? and i dont think theres a big diffrent between variant, well im using Singapore set and successfully flash using Sweden variant, so theres no big diffrent between each other and basically..u can used any variant you like, except if u are on at&t as their Lumias have an LTE which diffrent from all of us
All you need is the windows driver on the root of that drivers directory. I confirmed it today if your system is 64bit install that if it's 32 just install that one.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7.8 App
norgan said:
All you need is the windows driver on the root of that drivers directory. I confirmed it today if your system is 64bit install that if it's 32 just install that one.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7.8 App
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hye there Norgan, u have Bluetooth file transfer on ur 7.8?
PS: after updating to 7.8, i tried to connect my Lumia to Zune, there appear some kind of weird problem. First, Zune give me an error which is " We can't connect you phone to the internet,but u still can manage/sync you phone to zune" and looks like zune can't recognize my Lumia storage anymore, the capacity and balance of my storage..just show 0.00..i unistall and install it back..now Zune give me diff error which is "Cant connect to your phone, disconnect it, restart it and Connect again". This just give me
Hi All,
Just a quick question. Haven't been able to get force the update to my Lumia 900 yet. (Australian, unlocked).
Could someone let me know if when doing an official upgrade whether you also get a firmware update.
If not I might just CAB update instead.
Thanks in advance.
Adam
adamsmith said:
Hi All,
Just a quick question. Haven't been able to get force the update to my Lumia 900 yet. (Australian, unlocked).
Could someone let me know if when doing an official upgrade whether you also get a firmware update.
If not I might just CAB update instead.
Thanks in advance.
Adam
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I'm not sure what you mean by "official upgrade," but I got my Lumia 900 upgraded to 7.8 and immediately there was a firmware upgrade from Nokia.
I did the disconnect method to download 7.8, and didn't see any firmware upgrade. What is the new firmware # and how do I get it if I don't have it?
I have Lumia 900 RM-823 and today (without disconnecting method) I updated my phone to WP 7.8.
After Microsoft's updates (8779 > 8783 > 8858), there was a Nokia update, which changed my firmware version to 2175.2905.8853.12440, so YES, there IS a firmware update. However it's lower than firmware that you get with NCS + NaviFirm method, which is 2175.2905.8858.12480.
In [CAB] Official WP7 Updates List up to WP 7.8 + ALL LANGUAGES complete + OEM updates it is called OEM update and I've just captured an URL to this file:
Code:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/12/oemupdate.cab.pks_dcd00799a4a516c3b8c88e439ce04aa1887ff436.cab
Cheers!
BXN said:
I have Lumia 900 RM-823 and today (without disconnecting method) I updated my phone to WP 7.8.
After Microsoft's updates (8779 > 8783 > 8858), there was a Nokia update, which changed my firmware version to 2175.2905.8853.12440, so YES, there IS a firmware update. However it's lower than firmware that you get with NCS + NaviFirm method, which is 2175.2905.8858.12480.
In [CAB] Official WP7 Updates List up to WP 7.8 + ALL LANGUAGES complete + OEM updates it is called OEM update and I've just captured an URL to this file:
Code:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/12/oemupdate.cab.pks_dcd00799a4a516c3b8c88e439ce04aa1887ff436.cab
Cheers!
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Hi BXN,
Fantastic, thanks for the info. That's exactly what I was looking to find out.
Thanks
Adam
adamsmith said:
Hi BXN,
Fantastic, thanks for the info. That's exactly what I was looking to find out.
Thanks
Adam
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Glad I could help. But remember, this particular CAB is for RM-823 only.
I don't know which variant is in Australia, but you can check it by looking at the bottom of your Lumia near the speaker:
static.arstechnica.net/2012/04/03/lumia_900_bottom-4f7b43b-intro.jpg
Cheers once again!
Lumia 900 RM808 Rogers version did NOT get any nokia updates, just the 3 OS updates...
BXN said:
Glad I could help. But remember, this particular CAB is for RM-823 only.
I don't know which variant is in Australia, but you can check it by looking at the bottom of your Lumia near the speaker:
static.arstechnica.net/2012/04/03/lumia_900_bottom-4f7b43b-intro.jpg
Cheers once again!
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No worries, mines the RM-823. I have another rom on it from Navifirm at the moment, but I want to put the correct one back on just in case.
We seem to be a bit behind here on getting the update pushed out and I don't want to sit and wait on 7.5. The start screen and double wide tiles make a massive difference!
Thanks again,
Adam
adamsmith said:
Hi All,
Just a quick question. Haven't been able to get force the update to my Lumia 900 yet. (Australian, unlocked).
Could someone let me know if when doing an official upgrade whether you also get a firmware update.
If not I might just CAB update instead.
Thanks in advance.
Adam
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I used the disconnect method and updated my 900, two OS updates were done and one nokia firmware was done, so yes there is a firmware update...
my HD7 only had 2 OS updates no firmware updates...
I called Nokia to verify after the update and they told me that my OS and firmware is latest and greatest....
I follow the most simple way..
1. connect 900 to PC
2. turn off the wifi on PC or disconnect the network cable on PC.
3. turn on wifi on phone
4. run update on zune
5. 5 sec later turn on airplane mode on your phone.
6. you will have a msg stating you have an new update, turn on the wifi or connect network cable on your PC and update you phone.
it takes few tries to get it right...
the 7.8 OS tiles arrangement is great as it leaves very little space on the right side of the home screen.
Hi guys, I still have a problem with Lumia 640 LTE. When I try to update to windows 10 mobile thru Updrage advisor, I get this message "Lumia 640 LTE "we are working with your mobile operator..". I try to update thru insider app but is impossible to find a build for my device. Obviously I have Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2 15165.177. Now I have a doubt: Is this phone officially supported to get W10M?
RM-1072_1047
TIM Mobile Operator (officially upgradable)
Sorry for bad english
debrand your device, use CV (country version firmware) for your device
download it from http://www.lumiafirmware.com/guid/059X170 (02177.00000.15184.36002)
instruction for flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515453
PS
in case you need to restore TIM branding, download this
http://www.lumiafirmware.com/guid/059X1Z4
I'll try as soon as possible. Do you know the cause of this problem?