Updating Nokia Lumia 710 RM-809 (T-Mobile/Rogers) - Windows Phone 7 General

Hello all,
So after updating my Lumia 710 from Rogers, in the "About" screen of the Diagnostic Tool I see that I am on FW revision 1600.3007.7740.11465. This is a few versions behind what seems to be the latest version out there for unlocked variants of the phone...
So I found this page:
http://www.wpcentral.com/hack-t-mobile-lumia-710-flash-windows-phone-os-8107-new-firmware
Which claims that they have flashed the latest Indian firmware (8107.12070) for the RM-803 variant of the phone onto the T-Mobile (RM-809) version. However I am somewhat reluctant to try flashing an RM-803 image onto an RM-809, especially due to the fact that they support different 3G bands. What do you guys think?
Alternatively, I can see in Navifirm+ that the latest available image for the RM-809 is the Australian 8107.12050, so that might be a safer choice?
This will be the first time I try to manually update a Windows Phone... So what do you guys think? I really want to update it since there are some GMail syncing issues on the build that I'm running now.

I updated my lumia 710 from rogers (RM-809) with the RM-803 indian rom 12070 with no problems! Nothing is missing and it's now unbranded If you follow this guide it's really simple!

Thanks, Simon!
After reading your post, I gave it a shot and everything seems to be working fine I wonder if we should be seeing any battery life improvements like the Lumia 800 users?
Just something I should mention, though: I unlocked my phone so that I could use it on Wind Mobile, but after going through the flashing process, the phone became locked again so I had to re-enter my unlock code.
I didn't know that it was even possible for a phone to become locked again, after already having been unlocked...

I am thinking about getting a Lumia 710, and I am really surprised that you guys were able to flash a firmware from another RM-### without bricking the phone.
I currently own the X7 (RM659) from the Rogers and I was told not to flash the Belle firmware from the X& (RM707) since the phone will get bricked.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the info.
Which software do you use to flash? Phoenix or WP7 requires other tools? Never mind I found the post detailing how to debrand it.

The weird thing is... I tried to downgrade from the Indian (RM-803) 1070 build to the Australian (RM-809) 1050 build, and I wasn't able to...
It seems there is a small battery bug (Diagnostic tool doesn't display battery info) so that's why I tried to install the Australian one instead.
Whenever the next update comes along, I hope I'll be able to switch back to an RM-809 build... It seems like the safe way to go.
xsever said:
I currently own the X7 (RM659) from the Rogers and I was told not to flash the Belle firmware from the X& (RM707) since the phone will get bricked.
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Normally you shouldn't... But the only reason I did it is because other people had successfully done it.
Also keep in mind that Symbian phones seem to be a little pickier - you can brick them just by trying to downgrade to the previous OS.
Edit: Well that's weird... My Battery Status randomly started working!
Edit #2: I just remembered I did a battery pull, so that may have had something to do with why it is fixed now...

I never knew it was possible to downgrade the OS for Nokia phones whether it is Symbian or WP.
Would an unlocked T-Mobile Lumia 710 work fine on the Rogers network? Do the GSM bands match?

It would indeed. The RM-809 model supports HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100. So it will work on any of the North American operators. (excluding the cdma operators like Verizon and Sprint, of course)
Actually, I bought my Lumia 710 from Rogers, unlocked it, and I am using it on Wind Mobile now (same hspa band as t-mobile).
Edit: I hope you're right about the downgrading thing, since that would mean that the reason I wasn't able to flash back to RM-809 was because of the fact that it's a downgrade, as opposed to something being messed up on the phone! I guess I'll find out when the next update comes along.

I am 100% sure you cannot downgrade Nokia firmwares without bricking the phone. I read about one method somewhere, but it was very complicated.
If I were you, I wouldn't be worried, now that you have the RM-803 firmware, next time there is an RM-803 update, you should be able to update via Zune/Nokia Suite without having to go through the method you used at the beginning of the post.
Now your phone is an RM-803 so Zune will recognize it as so and update it normally hence the beauty of debranding where you don't have to wait for operators.

Hello guys i'm new to the site.
I want it to ask if i could flash my lumia 710 (t-mobile US) with the RM-809 VAR T-MOBILE BLACK version that appears in navifirm.
my nokia is DLOAD. Would that be a problem?

kortvolker said:
Hello guys i'm new to the site.
I want it to ask if i could flash my lumia 710 (t-mobile US) with the RM-809 VAR T-MOBILE BLACK version that appears in navifirm.
my nokia is DLOAD. Would that be a problem?
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I was wondering that too.
Also, there's two T_Mobile 8773 fw's listed for each color phone. One appears to have been released 06/04/12. The other 05/29 . What's the differences?

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Debrand Nokia Lumia 900 ATT, still get FOTA's from Microsoft??

I want to buy a 900 in the US (i'm from the Netherlands) with an ATT lock on it.
Therefore I want to debrand the phone because the update by ATT aren't as good as it should be. When you unlock or debrand an Android phone for example you will not be able to get the FOTA updates, is this the same when you unlock or debrand your lumia 900 from ATT?
I've read that the branded ATT version isn't getting all the updates that Microsoft is doing, and because of that I want to debrand it.
I haven't found any information on the web so I am forsed to ask it here.
thx.
There is currently no way of "debranding" or dev unlocking the phone and no guarantee that there will be.
My HTC TITAN still has no bootloader available.
I would bet on fairly good support from AT&T on the Lumia...more so than normal from them.
That being....I have not recieved an update from AT&T for my Titian either....
If the international firmware is out, it is of course doable.
braaaii said:
I want to buy a 900 in the US (i'm from the Netherlands) with an ATT lock on it.
Therefore I want to debrand the phone because the update by ATT aren't as good as it should be. When you unlock or debrand an Android phone for example you will not be able to get the FOTA updates, is this the same when you unlock or debrand your lumia 900 from ATT?
I've read that the branded ATT version isn't getting all the updates that Microsoft is doing, and because of that I want to debrand it.
I haven't found any information on the web so I am forsed to ask it here.
thx.
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There is no way to set the mms apn right now.
Thanks for the reply's. I'm going to think about it than... Or wait.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA

Questions Lumia 900 TelCel

Ok I just got a really sweet deal
150$ brand new in box unlocked Lumia 900 Black... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the only thing is...its branded to TelCel mexico
Are the roms in the dev sectoin interchangeable?
Will flashing another rom re-lock my device?
Also any idea why LTE would not show up on my device...its marked 4G
I got the right sim from my provider, and I am in an LTE area
THank you all in advance if you can provide me any insight regarding these questions
rob243 said:
Ok I just got a really sweet deal
150$ brand new in box unlocked Lumia 900 Black... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the only thing is...its branded to TelCel mexico
Are the roms in the dev sectoin interchangeable?
Will flashing another rom re-lock my device?
Also any idea why LTE would not show up on my device...its marked 4G
I got the right sim from my provider, and I am in an LTE area
THank you all in advance if you can provide me any insight regarding these questions
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Not sure about the interchangeable ROMs. But as far as I know Telcel don't sell Lumia 900s that supports LTE.
Heck, not even the iPhone 5 is LTE at the moment. However iPhone 5 can be upgraded to LTE with a software update.
Cheers,
Rayan
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Ok I just got a really sweet deal
150$ brand new in box unlocked Lumia 900 Black... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the only thing is...its branded to TelCel mexico
Are the roms in the dev sectoin interchangeable?
Will flashing another rom re-lock my device?
Also any idea why LTE would not show up on my device...its marked 4G
I got the right sim from my provider, and I am in an LTE area
THank you all in advance if you can provide me any insight regarding these questions
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If you have 4G on your screen it is LTE, if you see H is HSPA,
I have a Rogers Lumia 900 LTE from Canada, and I had a lot of connectivity issues, I loaded it with Telcel MX firmware and I can tell you its the best ROM available.
1.- Fixed all Connectivity issues
2.- APN settings, including MMS are automatically detected
3.- Removed all Rogers Branding (Rogers Lumia 900 doesn't have any branding on the exteriors, so after flashing with Telcel ROM its like a new factory unlocked device with no branding at all)
4.- Telcel ROM doesn't have any operator custom preloaded apps
5.- The only thing I was nervous was the disappearance on the LTE logo, but apparently they only replaced LTE and HSPA+II by 4G.
6.- Internet Sharing started working (Didn't work with Rogers Firmware with my current carrier CLARO)
There si another post that mention this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905734&page=2
Bottom line, stay with it, it works great!!
thanks alot
Thanks alot for this, I did notice that the telcel rom has no carrier branding, and after reading all your points concerning rogers rom I am definately staying with this one "if its not broke - don't fix it" very helpful post mods feel free to close this thread.
When you changed ROMs, did you run into a signature error? How did you overcome that? It seems some handsets are tied to their specific carrier -- short of upgrading with a same carrier ROM, the update fails with message 'problem with file signature'. or something along those lines.
Cheers
aquanaut88 said:
When you changed ROMs, did you run into a signature error? How did you overcome that? It seems some handsets are tied to their specific carrier -- short of upgrading with a same carrier ROM, the update fails with message 'problem with file signature'. or something along those lines.
Cheers
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I have a Rogers phone that is unlocked and being used on Bell and it is flashed with this rom as well. I used Nokia Care Suite and got the rom through the data package manager. It flashed without any problems. There haven't been any updates through Zune yet so I don't know what will happen when 7.8 is released. If it doesn't do the update automatically I'll just update it again through Nokia Care Suite.
aquanaut88 said:
When you changed ROMs, did you run into a signature error? How did you overcome that? It seems some handsets are tied to their specific carrier -- short of upgrading with a same carrier ROM, the update fails with message 'problem with file signature'. or something along those lines.
Cheers
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Didn't happened anything like that to me, just looked for my RM in Data Package Manager downloaded the latest one and loaded it using Nokia Care Suite
Thanks... glad it at least works for the Rogers devices. I'm guessing there's something added to the AT&T versions which prevent swapping carrier ROMs, even within the same RM group.
I've tried modifying the product code both in the file names and within the files. Still fails with file signature error.
aquanaut88 said:
Thanks... glad it at least works for the Rogers devices. I'm guessing there's something added to the AT&T versions which prevent swapping carrier ROMs, even within the same RM group.
I've tried modifying the product code both in the file names and within the files. Still fails with file signature error.
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I have the same issue, maybe try flashing it to an earlier ROM from AT&T that doesn't have that limitation?
Doing a field exercise with my unit so it may be awhile before I get to try it myself.
I actually tried that a week ago... rolled AT&T rom back to 8112 (nothing earlier available on NaviFirm list). Same complaint.

[Q] How to flash RM-823 on my RM-808

Hi all!
I have a question.
Is there any chance, or is there anybody who succesfully flash RM-823 rom on RM-808.
Do you have any ideas how to change these number? I don't care about LTE, because I don't have it in my country, so I would be really grateful if you help me.
Thanks
Vasek
You can't. The 7.8 update should be on Navifirm soon.
Well but I also need it due to language. So I hope there must be some kind of way how to do it...via registry edit or smthg like that?.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
vasington1993 said:
Well but I also need it due to language. So I hope there must be some kind of way how to do it...via registry edit or smthg like that?.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
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Nope. It's the bootloader that's blocking you from doing it. You should be able to install languages with the cab sender, but I have no idea. Never done it.
vasington1993 said:
Hi all!
I have a question.
Is there any chance, or is there anybody who succesfully flash RM-823 rom on RM-808.
Do you have any ideas how to change these number? I don't care about LTE, because I don't have it in my country, so I would be really grateful if you help me.
Thanks
Vasek
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You don't care about the LTE, but your phone is an LTE device, so whether you care or not, still your phone is different from RM-823. You have to wait for your variant or buy a non-LTE phone so you can flash it right away. as far as i know, its not because of the number (eg: rm-823,rm-808), so even if you change the number, no you still can't flash the RM-823 variant. an LTE device require a different driver than RM-823.
ps: and yes, like exiva said, if your variant is out on navifrm, you gonna have to unlocked your bootloader to be able to flash the 7.8 update.
vasington1993 said:
Hi all!
I have a question.
Is there any chance, or is there anybody who succesfully flash RM-823 rom on RM-808.
Do you have any ideas how to change these number? I don't care about LTE, because I don't have it in my country, so I would be really grateful if you help me.
Thanks
Vasek
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Confirmed CAN NOT!
Cause I tried.
well, so when I flash the same bootloader as 823 has...it would be possible, but if I can't flash it, it is not.
MyOpicWorm - how did you try it and when did you end? What was the problem or error which you got please?
Thanks
kecil26 said:
You don't care about the LTE, but your phone is an LTE device, so whether you care or not, still your phone is different from RM-823. You have to wait for your variant or buy a non-LTE phone so you can flash it right away. as far as i know, its not because of the number (eg: rm-823,rm-808), so even if you change the number, no you still can't flash the RM-823 variant. an LTE device require a different driver than RM-823.
ps: and yes, like exiva said, if your variant is out on navifrm, you gonna have to unlocked your bootloader to be able to flash the 7.8 update.
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Yes it is, but it is also surely GSM mobile, because there are no LTE devices in our country. There is only GSM, so it must be also GSM, that was what I tried to say.
I don't care about it, because I don't need it. Understand?
vasington1993 said:
Yes it is, but it is also surely GSM mobile, because there are no LTE devices in our country. There is only GSM, so it must be also GSM, that was what I tried to say.
I don't care about it, because I don't need it. Understand?
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as far as i know, RM-808 is an LTE phone..if your phone is GSM, it should be RM-823..i dont know, mybe im wrong
If you can change the product code to one of RM-823, then you can flash 823 to 808 and vice versa. On Symbian device, I did a few times. However, I could not find any software which can change the product code for Luma 900 yet.
It would be superb if you find any software which can do it. I also googled and binged many pages, but can't find solution
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
vasington1993 said:
It would be superb if you find any software which can do it. I also googled and binged many pages, but can't find solution
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
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They are different hardware and it's not possible. nor would you want to really. why are you wanting to do this?
Cause I would like to have my language (0405-Czech) there. And I don't know how to do it.
I downloaded both roms via navifirm, but don't know what now. I also downloaded CAB file, but no chance how to send it to phone. Cab sender says that no update available...so any help please?
vasington1993 said:
Cause I would like to have my language (0405-Czech) there. And I don't know how to do it.
I downloaded both roms via navifirm, but don't know what now. I also downloaded CAB file, but no chance how to send it to phone. Cab sender says that no update available...so any help please?
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You can't install another firmware if it is not suitable for your device.
Upgrade it to 8858 and after you have to install all the updates your language until 8858.
Search your here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37384687postcount=1478
Good luck
kecil26 said:
as far as i know, RM-808 is an LTE phone..if your phone is GSM, it should be RM-823..i dont know, mybe im wrong
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The ATT Lumia does both 3G and LTE.
Even if you could flash the ROM on it, most likely = bricked phone due to different hardware

Crossflash Rom

Ok, so this is something I used to do on older (Symbian) Nokias all the time to 'debrand' them.
Had anybody tried to flash a ROM from Telcel Mexico onto an ATT Lumia 900? Why, because I want to get rid of the ATT branding, quite annoying to me and the Latin-American version are traditionally clean ROM straight from NOKIA. Obviously one would have to change the product code with NCS.
Any experiences?
Thanks

Nokia Lumia 900, RM-808 WP7.5 firmware 2175.1002.8112.12084

hi guys,
I have a Lumia 900, 059L6S0 RM-808 VAR ATT BLACK. I got this from my friend a couple of weeks back. He was facing the problem of battery drain because of the LTE connectivity issue. He has updated to 7.8 and now i do not have the option of doing the workaround of ##3282#, and toggle ENS(reboot).
I decided to downgrade to 7.5 and then try the workaround and then upgrade back to 7.8. Unfortunately, the oldest firmware i was able to get is the 2175.2301.8779.12223. I flashed that through NCS and then i found that the workaround is still not accessible.
Now i am looking for the 2175.1002.8112.12084 firmware which i believe can let me use the ENS toggle.
Am I right? If yes then where can i get that version of the firmware.
Let me state that, i have used NCS for store 5.0 2013.1.3.4. I am not able to get hold of the 2175.1002.8112.12084 for my product code though its available for other similar models.
Any help is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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