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[Q] Should I get it?

Here's a little background, on Saturday I got a Galaxy S and it was screwed(No 3 button modes), I got another SGS and it had the same issue. Not to mention that its GPS was a bit screwed. Now I'm not being against SGS, its an awesome phone and honestly I'm a bit skeptical for switching after my 6 hour experience with the phone but I need another phone.
Now I'm thinking the next best option, HTC Desire. I need a ROMable phone with good community around it, the phone itself needs to be fast(Or with the ability to be fast), the touch needs to be good(Very important, I'm used to an iPod Touch, so I want a touch experience close to the iTouch, I mean snappy, quick and accurate). I know it has a relatively bad Multi-Touch but is it really that bad? Does it support 3-point or greater touches?
Also how is the gaming experience on it? I know it has a weaker GPU than Desire but is it absolutely bad?
Note : The comparison/experience need not be from stock ROM, it can be from any ROM as long as it is available in the wild.
EDIT : Also how is the screen if Desire when compared to SGS, iTouch 3G(iPhone 3GS)? I know its a bit smaller than SGS but would it make a difference?

Multi touch is a no, it's 2 point only I believe...
Still best phone I've had, better than iPhone 3GS IMO - not used the SGS but have heard a number of bad things about it
Best thing you can do is have a go on one, then you can make up your own mind

I'd still like some opinions before I go into the store. The problem is here you actually don't get to try it before purchasing it, stores are skeptical due to the theft.
How is the touch experience in general?

I came from an HD2 and it was night and day compared to that in terms of the screens!! I'd say it's comparable to the iPhone 3GS in terms of text input but as I've not properly used an iPhone I can't say more than that. I've had no issues with the touch personally, I'd say it's a blinding phone and best I've ever used

Have you tried playing games on the Desire? Is it good in terms of gaming?

Only game I've played is Angry Birds and for that it's fine - end of the day it's a phone so I use it as one (email, calls, SMS) so can't comment more than that

Dragooon123 said:
Have you tried playing games on the Desire? Is it good in terms of gaming?
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Gaming is fine - if the controls are appropriate for the Desires touch screen. I've no problems with games like Nova, Skies of Glory, Dungeon Hunger, Angry Birds etc.
As to the GPU, yes it is weaker than the one in the Galaxy S, but to be honest when I do play I can't say I can really notice it. It certainly isn't a bad GPU, it's just not as fast as the PowerVR GPU in the Samsung and iPhones.
That being said, if phone gaming was only of my primary requirements, I would probably buy an iPhone anyway, though the gap is definitely narrowing!
Regards,
Dave
P.S. Note that two points is still more than one, so it does have multi-touch!

If anyone even dares to suggest me iPhone in this thread I'll shoot them in an instance . Not that it is a bad phone, I've decided to not go with it.
Multi-touch aside, is the normal touch application good? Is the screen accurate and responsive? I'm talking about the problems faced with touch screens such as applying too much pressure for it to recognize a command, the screen not being responsive etc. Especially in typing.
Is their really a big difference between 3.7" and 4.0" screen? Also, is the screen on Desire good when compared to other high-end handsets(Xperia, Galaxy, iPhone)?
Also, what are the chances for it to be completely bricked? Not that I'd intentionally do something bad(I'm quite good at flashing I guess, I've flashed my dad's Herald numerous times).
Also the most important thing, how is the GPS? I plan on using MyTracks with it to record tracks for 4-6 hours. Basically my dad is documenting the locality with photos and he goes on for 4-6 hours every day taking photos and 360 degree panoramas of different places. We'd like to Geotag them but my camera doesn't support it, so we plan on tracking it with MyTracks and then patching it with Apple's Aperture.

MyTrak as in Snooper? I work for them!!
General touch screen is just as good as an iPhone - it's a capacitive screen so little contact is needed to use and I've had no problems with it at all. Colours are vibrant too (but I've got an AMOLED screen, new ones tend to have the SLCD screen which is slightly less vibrant apparently)
The 3.7" screen's fine to view and a lot easier in the hand than my old HD2 (although it was a nice unit to use - shame about WM6.5)

My Tracks, as in Google's My Tracks. It records your GPS movement for a desired amount of time.
How is the screen's test? My biggest complain with HTC's Herald was that the screen could break very easily, is the screen on Desire strong? Can it stand scratches from objects like keys, coins or sharp objects? Is it drop-friendly?

I've a Martin Fields protector on mine and it's in its official case at all times when not in use but it is a glass screen so is still strong. I never have it in a pocket with anything else as a precaution, though

[Q] Xperia Play touchscreen

Hey guys, i'm in the market for a new phone and I choose the xperia play, i will be purchasing it soon, but before then, i have a question about the touchscreen. How responsive is it compared to the ipod touch's touchscreen? The reason i say this is because i'm coming from an LG Voyager so besides my ipod touch, i dont have a lot of prior experiece with touchscreen devides and I want my experience to favorable and not something that's laggy and unresponsive and like the lg voyager's touchscreen can be. Thank you for the help you guys.
PS. For those of you saying that i should just go to the verizon store and try it for myself, i have indeed done this, but I didn't have enough time to form a good opinion about whether or not it was good.

The touch screen on the play is great, in fact I actually prefer it to my Itouch , honestly I wouldent worry about it feels great to me

Awesome! Thank you very much! Just the answer I was looking for, i was going to ask more questions, but there's nothing I can think of at the moment lol.

I have tried my friends' iPhones but I can't form a solid comparison with the Xperia Play in terms of touchscreen. Yeah, indeed, the iPhone's touchscreen is sensitive, but it could be a safe statement too that the Xperia Play has a very sensitive and responsive touchscreen. It's capacitive so it registers even the slightest touch possible and the UI response is very smooth, thanks to Gingerbread.
I haven't had any trouble with its touchscreen yet (being unresponsive or so) but c'mon dude, comparing it with the LG Voyager you say!?!? OMG what a MISMATCH! The Voyager is damn old and has a resistive touchscreen. That could be the reason why you're saying it's not that responsive. Resisitive touchscreens prefer to be pressed down for the action to be registered unlike capacitive ones that detect finger movement over the screen.
PS: There is big difference between resistive and capacitive touchscreens. You should read them HERE to avoid mismatch.

Just don't put the phone to a couch or pillow and try to use plays touchscreen. It's strange, it becomes unresponsive and weak, but it's OK on the table (you have to put more pressure on your fingers).
Onhand its great.
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I have the play and it's awesome.
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narflynn619 said:
I have tried my friends' iPhones but I can't form a solid comparison with the Xperia Play in terms of touchscreen. Yeah, indeed, the iPhone's touchscreen is sensitive, but it could be a safe statement too that the Xperia Play has a very sensitive and responsive touchscreen. It's capacitive so it registers even the slightest touch possible and the UI response is very smooth, thanks to Gingerbread.
I haven't had any trouble with its touchscreen yet (being unresponsive or so) but c'mon dude, comparing it with the LG Voyager you say!?!? OMG what a MISMATCH! The Voyager is damn old and has a resistive touchscreen. That could be the reason why you're saying it's not that responsive. Resisitive touchscreens prefer to be pressed down for the action to be registered unlike capacitive ones that detect finger movement over the screen.
PS: There is big difference between resistive and capacitive touchscreens. You should read them HERE to avoid mismatch.
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I understand the difference, i was just stating that i am coming from a voyager and resistive touchscreens suck.

not only is the screen nice and sensitive (and looks tasty too), it has 4 point multi touch (which i had no idea about until i ran a multi touch test) which is very accurate and makes apps like google maps so awesomely easy to use, it's amazing!!
i get a bit excited about the screen on the play as i came from the x10 with glitchy dual touch

It's probably the same as the iphone.. I don't notice a difference between them. But when I turned on my old htc touch... Omg lol never realized how hard I had to press the screen to get it to response before
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jwk94 said:
Hey guys, i'm in the market for a new phone and I choose the xperia play, i will be purchasing it soon, but before then, i have a question about the touchscreen. How responsive is it compared to the ipod touch's touchscreen? The reason i say this is because i'm coming from an LG Voyager so besides my ipod touch, i dont have a lot of prior experiece with touchscreen devides and I want my experience to favorable and not something that's laggy and unresponsive and like the lg voyager's touchscreen can be. Thank you for the help you guys.
PS. For those of you saying that i should just go to the verizon store and try it for myself, i have indeed done this, but I didn't have enough time to form a good opinion about whether or not it was good.
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Coming from 3 years of using the iPhone, the Play is a HUGE improvement.

Multitouch upto two fingers is ok
But the screen goes mumbo jumbo when more than 2 fingers are used :S
Some serious touch issues have also been noted when the phones charging
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Thank you everyonee for the helpful responses, I can't wait to get my play!

I never found it unresponsive while charging or while setting it down anywhere. It's quite nice to use. Only downside I've found is it gets less accurate if you fingers get all sweaty.

I think Gingerbread really brings alot of smoothness and responsiveness to the overall touch screen experience on the play and I must say in comparison to other phones it's damn smooth. I've seen people with dual core phones be impressed with my Play considering the specs for it are now considered outdated.

ammarcool12 said:
Multitouch upto two fingers is ok
But the screen goes mumbo jumbo when more than 2 fingers are used :S
Some serious touch issues have also been noted when the phones charging
Sent from my R800i using XDA Premium App
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I think you have a dodgy Play as mine isn't like that at all,

Gamepad Durability

How is everyone's gamepad holding up and how long have you been using the phone?
I was playing Marvel vs. Capcom last night and forgot how hard I like to mash the controls! Maybe because the phone's smaller than an actual controller, I feel like it's so much more delicate.
Let me know if anyone's buttons have begun to stick, break, or just quit working and being responsive.

its a really solid gamepad for me, ive had mine for just under a year now and ive played heaps of games, emulators, ps1 games etc
there has been no sticking or breaking for me, just for a few games there have been issues because im on the ICS beta

ttiimm said:
its a really solid gamepad for me, ive had mine for just under a year now and ive played heaps of games, emulators, ps1 games etc
there has been no sticking or breaking for me, just for a few games there have been issues because im on the ICS beta
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You just mean compatibility issues on ICS, right?

Are we talking about the gamepad and the buttons or ICS here ?

It's pretty damn durable.
I've dealt with Windows Mobile, iOS, Windows Phones and other Droids... needless to say, having BUTTONS was such a damn relief that I went on a fighting game frenzy (I kid you not when I say I've played almost every fighter released in the past 20 years)... and the Xperia PLAY's been taking it like a champ.

I saw a article once where sony claimed that you could beat the hell out of the gamepad (to an extent) and it would still work.
As for mine, the only thing wrong with it is the scratches caused by sliding up and down
All buttons work fine for me, and i bash them a lot, only had since christmas though

Perfect, this is just what I wanted to hear. Looks like I can mash away then!
I'm so surprised at how good the controls feel, especially the D-pad. They have such a nice click to them and still feel good rolling forward and back (Hadouken!)

Solar.Plexus said:
Perfect, this is just what I wanted to hear. Looks like I can mash away then!
I'm so surprised at how good the controls feel, especially the D-pad. They have such a nice click to them and still feel good rolling forward and back (Hadouken!)
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I agree. All the buttons click nicely when pressed. Sony Ericsson did a very good job !

Honestly, the only complaint I have at all is that my hands cramp from holding the small device and pushing buttons quickly. But what can I expect, it's not a controller, it's a phone.
My hands probably wouldn't cramp as much if I didn't make Megaman dash-jump every step he takes...

The gamepad itself is durable, but the flex cable inside the slider sure as hell isn't.

the Xperia Play gamepad it's tough i guess
mine works like a clockword :good:
but the slider of this device feels frail

kgtau said:
the Xperia Play gamepad it's tough i guess
mine works like a clockword :good:
but the slider of this device feels frail
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My slider on my xperia play is weird. Sometimes if i slide my xperia play closed it shuts itself off.

I think its pretty durable slider seems pretty good give ls a reasuring clack when it slides open and close the only think I could complain about the gamepad is the L/R triggers after 6 months of my second play (first I dropped down the toilet) the R trigger seems alot weaker than the L because of heavy fifa and FPS gaming but love this phone would like a xp2 but thats a different topic ..
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Gamepad still works great. Still got that clickiness to it but the slider is a bit loose still not a problem though as everything works.

chery2k said:
My slider on my xperia play is weird. Sometimes if i slide my xperia play closed it shuts itself off.
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maybe the spring is loose ?
ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
I think its pretty durable slider seems pretty good give ls a reasuring clack when it slides open and close the only think I could complain about the gamepad is the L/R triggers after 6 months of my second play (first I dropped down the toilet) the R trigger seems alot weaker than the L because of heavy fifa and FPS gaming but love this phone would like a xp2 but thats a different topic ..
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:laugh: you dropped it down to the toilet ?
geez, how did it happen :laugh:
btw my L / R buttons works fine
the L / R button feels almost the same like DualShock 3 controller L2 / R2 , really love it
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Gamepad still works great. Still got that clickiness to it but the slider is a bit loose still not a problem though as everything works.
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yeah me too
i thought it's just my xperia play have that slider problem

Yeh I was playing mc3 put it above the toilet on the box thingy went to wash my hands and bam I see it bubblin away in my pee thank god for the free 3 month insurace!! I got a pretty good deal for myxplay got a free xbox with it aswell! And it doesn't bother me about the l/r thingi was just being picky trying to pick afault in my beloved play
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WILDBLOOD worst controls ever

Im getting so annoyed with this game wildblood it has to have the worst controls ive ever experienced on a android game which is such a pity cos the game itself is great but its always at that crucial moment when the stupid camera spin completly out of control and you all ways end up looking the wrong way.....but all ways at the time you need to shoot an arrow or sum crap it gets sooo friggin annoying.
and a pad controller doesnt work with the arrow...... coincidence eh
edit>: god damn worst controls ever!

Agreed. The touch screen controls are jittery and not smooth. I was at a part with a HUGE cross bow and shooting a slew of oncoming enemies... all you do is aim and fire... well it wasn't so easy. It lacks fine control. It seemed it would get in the general area around the enemy then stop... and skip around... and not respond.
Typically when I need fine motor control, you can rock your thumb but it seems this game doesn't see this. It requires an actual swipe and won't pick up the swipe until your finger moved X amount of pixels. So if you need to fine adjust over 5 pixels, but it won't pick up a swipe till 15px, it jumps to the other side of the enemy.
Gameloft is the GREATESTEST GAME DEVELOPER EVER AND EVER AND FOREVER! There must be something wrong with all of my Nexus devices and Samsung tabs because Gameloft could never ever screw anything up.

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Agreed. The touch screen controls are jittery and not smooth. I was at a part with a HUGE cross bow and shooting a slew of oncoming enemies... all you do is aim and fire... well it wasn't so easy. It lacks fine control. It seemed it would get in the general area around the enemy then stop... and skip around... and not respond.
Typically when I need fine motor control, you can rock your thumb but it seems this game doesn't see this. It requires an actual swipe and won't pick up the swipe until your finger moved X amount of pixels. So if you need to fine adjust over 5 pixels, but it won't pick up a swipe till 15px, it jumps to the other side of the enemy.
Gameloft is the GREATESTEST GAME DEVELOPER EVER AND EVER AND FOREVER! There must be something wrong with all of my Nexus devices and Samsung tabs because Gameloft could never ever screw anything up.
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exactly. and whats with multiplayer? the ranking system is non existent, and you can only advance in multiplayer by playing single player over n over again? wtf? and the noobs in multiplayer that just stand with crossbow suck

[SOLVED] [Q] How big of Downgrade would it be? (Wanting to Switch Device)

Hi All,
I'm thinking of Switching from a LG G2, Whilst I LOVE the big screen getting to the top left requires a little hand juggling and Is actually causing a bit of pain trying to stretch without hand juggling.
Would It be wise If you had a choice? They are very similar spec'd devices.
Difference is Camera, Screen size/red and Battery.
Would I still get the same daily battery life - I play some games but Mostly Reddit, Instant Messaging (Hangouts/Telegram), A bit of video watching on Youtube & TwitchTV plus Music listening via Spotify.
Do you think I would cope with the Loss of screen space whilst watching Youtube/TwitchTV?
Many thanks,
J93.

J93 said:
Hi All,
I'm thinking of Switching from a LG G2, Whilst I LOVE the big screen getting to the top left requires a little hand juggling and Is actually causing a bit of pain trying to stretch without hand juggling.
Would It be wise If you had a choice? They are very similar spec'd devices.
Difference is Camera, Screen size/red and Battery.
Would I still get the same daily battery life - I play some games but Mostly Reddit, Instant Messaging (Hangouts/Telegram), A bit of video watching on Youtube & TwitchTV plus Music listening via Spotify.
Do you think I would cope with the Loss of screen space whilst watching Youtube/TwitchTV?
Many thanks,
J93.
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Camera and Battery on Z1C are absolutely fantastic. And you'll get a waterproof phone too. When I was getting mine, G2 was my alternative, but found the screen too big for my preference (ease of use). However, as I know with computer screens and TVs, 'downgrading' is always hard at first, but eventually you'll get used to it.
Just a warning about the ASF on the screen, which can get scratched easily, so you might want to consider Z3C or a tempered glass screen protector (my advice), which cost £3-£10.
Btw. I find the screen large enough for watching videos on the go - used to watch Netflix on my commute, but I guess it's always better on a larger screen.

SalsaleroDominguez said:
Camera and Battery on Z1C are absolutely fantastic. And you'll get a waterproof phone too. When I was getting mine, G2 was my alternative, but found the screen too big for my preference (ease of use). However, as I know with computer screens and TVs, 'downgrading' is always hard at first, but eventually you'll get used to it.
Just a warning about the ASF on the screen, which can get scratched easily, so you might want to consider Z3C or a tempered glass screen protector (my advice), which cost £3-£10.
Btw. I find the screen large enough for watching videos on the go - used to watch Netflix on my commute, but I guess it's always better on a larger screen.
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Thanks!
I ultimately did just go for it and choose the Z3C due to Front facing speakers, It certainly is smaller but I'm sure over the week I'll get accustomed to the slightly smaller screen.
The Z3C came with a screen protector and I purchased the Smart case with it