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I know, I know, I know. I'm not paying, so I shouldn't complain.
However, I think we can agree that rapidshare is the opposite of efficient for ROM distribution.
Since I'm no coder myself, just an end user (with an engineering degree in telecoms), for me to set up a good solution myself doesn't exactly strike home eighter.
However, we have some VERY capable coders here. And we have a lot of end users with some bandwidth to share. Is there a chance we can set up an rss-based downloader (using bittorrent to distribute roms), and then simply tell regular downloaders to get the torrent file? (And thus save this site bandwidth and storage, and end users gray hairs over downloads that are SLOOOOOW). Setting up a Diamond "rom-farm" spread over the internet would solve a lot of problems. I know _I_ can prolly share half of my 8mbit (on average), and I think there are others out there who can share aswell, giving this group a good potential (and if we can get other groups to cooperate we can prolly increase bandwidth and spread over the internet).
Bittorrent is ideally suited to this work, especially if we have a few "always on" seeding-servers.
//Svein
This is a very good idea.
I'm on a 100MBit, so that won't be a problem.
I also have a spare dual opteron server lying around.
I've seen that tom (who has a Latvian hosting) also has some good bandwidth.
adwinp said:
This is a very good idea.
I'm on a 100MBit, so that won't be a problem.
I also have a spare dualopteron server lying around.
I've seen that tom (who has a Latvian hosting) also has some good bandwidth.
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What we basically need:
1. Someone with a *nix box on a low-latency (bandwidth isn't an issue, latency is) link, willing to run "our" tracker, and set up the needed accounts for uploads, and set up the tracker to rss-feed the seeder servers.
2. Several people willing to run seeder servers. These need bandwidth. The seeder servers should run in rss-fed full automatic mode.
From what I've seen (between the lines) in the posts on this forum, getting people willing to give bandwidth shouldn't be a problem. What we need is a decent tracker software (I'm open to any suggestions), and some template for setting up the seeder servers.
Am I missing anything? Who volunteers to make the tracker? (I can volunteer to run it, and to make sure latency is ... acceptable on the link. I'm a pedantic millisecond-centric ex netadmin. Ex because of health.)
//Svein
this is a great idea. If i can help in any way I will.
The dual opteron box I was talking about is running gentoo linux.
I will have to reconfig it though.
I can take care of most of the setup during the week-end (if I stay home don't go on the potential trip I planned).
Let's take care of all the suggestions via this thread / pm.
What a great idea
sskogen said:
What we basically need:
Am I missing anything? Who volunteers to make the tracker? (I can volunteer to run it, and to make sure latency is ... acceptable on the link. I'm a pedantic millisecond-centric ex netadmin. Ex because of health.)
//Svein
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I was a net admin for 4 years so I know how you feel.
^.^
Try testing adwinp.org and see if the latency suits your needs (it should; we are on a 10GBit backbone).
^.^
Well this seems promising! While this whole thing gets in place, as a sort of alpha tryout, how about using public trackers such as thepiratebay for example? And have a wiki page with up to date torrent links.
wow great idea =)
only suggestion here is maybe change the title of this thread xD
I uploaded torrents for the radios and Elite ROMs.
Links are available on the Diamond Radio wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_ExtractedRadioRoms
and the Diamond Elite ROMs wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Elite_ROMs
It should work.. normally... and be faster than rapidshare once we get seeders.
Time to flash Elite 3.0 now
If you already have the files, don't download them again! Just copy them to the torrent download directory, like that your torrent will be 100% complete and you will be able to seed and help others download faster.
Have added the 5 torrents to my local box.
//Svein
Torrent sharing is great. I'll help!
I was just wondering would anyone be interested in free file hosting for your ROM/s. What i ask in return is...well...donations...i may ask for a favour in return at a later date or something?
I'm giving chefs and application developers this as a way of saying thanks for all their hard work. That, plus im sick of the slow transfers of dodgy file share/hosting sites like rapid$hare and [email protected]
What you get:
-Free FTP account so you can upload your files with UNLIMITED storage/data transfers.
What you need to do:
Visit www.intertubes.info and read the front cover and shoot me an e-mail or PM on here and let me know why you deserve an account, and it will all be set up for you and i'll e-mail/PM you back with how to get started
At this stage i'll start with a limited number of seats.
lasterato said:
I was just wondering would anyone be interested in free file hosting for your ROM/s. What i ask in return is...well...donations...i may ask for a favour in return at a later date or something?
I'm giving chefs and application developers this as a way of saying thanks for all their hard work. That, plus im sick of the slow transfers of dodgy file share/hosting sites like rapid$hare and [email protected]
What you get:
-Free FTP account so you can upload your files with UNLIMITED storage/data transfers.
What you need to do:
Visit www.intertubes.info and read the front cover and shoot me an e-mail or PM on here and let me know why you deserve an account, and it will all be set up for you and i'll e-mail/PM you back with how to get started
At this stage i'll start with a limited number of seats.
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Thinks is a very good offer which I really appreciate however bl0w is doing exactly the same thing at the moment and is doing a fantastic job of this. I'm not sure wether there will be a demand for this as we are very happy with bl0w's services.
See what the other chef's say anyway. I guess you can't have enough mirrors!
Regards
Shaks
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Lasterato
Thinks is a very good offer which I really appreciate however bl0w is doing exactly the same thing at the moment and is doing a fantastic job of this. I'm not sure wether there will be a demand for this as we are very happy with bl0w's services.
See what the other chef's say anyway. I guess you can't have enough mirrors!
Regards
Shaks
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I'm willing to work side by side with bl0w, presuming that they're happy to do so...i haven't seen enough non-rapid$hare type links to be satisfied
Just thought I would say thanks to lasterato, also is this server based in Australia cause that would be tops for us aussies haha, also im with you on the NO CLEAN FILTER!!
Thanks again for your contribution!
luckyluke1137 said:
Just thought I would say thanks to lasterato, also is this server based in Australia cause that would be tops for us aussies haha, also im with you on the NO CLEAN FILTER!!
Thanks again for your contribution!
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Sadly no...they're like millions per month. I basically just had the site for some file-storage stuff, and though i'm not going to use it all. I usually get awesome speeds off it anyways. So it's a win win situation i say!
lasterato said:
Sadly no...they're like millions per month. I basically just had the site for some file-storage stuff, and though i'm not going to use it all. I usually get awesome speeds off it anyways. So it's a win win situation i say!
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I can offer 100Mbit hosting, yet there's no point in it since someone else is already doing a very good job at it.
My suggestion: You can always contat bl0w in order to rsync his server to yours, and that would be exactly this: mirroring.
Then again, what's the point in this, or even load balancing?
It's not like he gets overloads.
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adwinp said:
I can offer 100Mbit hosting, yet there's no point in it since someone else is already doing a very good job at it.
My suggestion: You can always contat bl0w in order to rsync his server to yours, and that would be exactly this: mirroring.
Then again, what's the point in this, or even load balancing?
It's not like he gets overloads.
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Very true...meh, will see if anything results from it
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Please write here - what candidate to hosting place or mirror you wanna see?
Whose have interesting kernel, or rom \ script \ app \ and need mirror for files without difficult access to share file service?
I have been "leeching" from XDA for a while now and I want to give something back to XDA.
I have a webhosting business. I am not really doing anything with it at this time. I was thinking about opening it up for XDA members for file hosting.
I HATE RapidShare and other "free" sites like it... I wouldnt do anything more than some banner ads on the site, maybe some GoogleAdSense... Nothing intrusive... I promise...
Would anyone use this COMPLETELY FREE SERVICE?
Im setting it up now, 100MB for RAR and ZIP, 50MB for CABS
www.FarBeyondHosting.com
That is a very nice idea! It would be great for this great site.
I join ya! - I absoluty HATE Rapidshare too, most of the time it's busy or I'll keep on countin' the seconds
The adds are no problem, when there aren't a lot - that is...
Most of the rom's are above 100mb though...
WC
Yep file limits may not be the best but its a great idea... thanks for sharing
I have to admit, I dont know what kind of files sizes are needed for the ROMS.
I have used the roms for the 8525, and the tilt, and now the Raphael/Fuze... And those are generally less than 100MB...
What would a good size be? 200? I have unlimited space on that server...
Thanks a lot
I think this is a good idea!
btw has anybody thought how many roms there are published here?
Lol, I was just coming to post the same topic, I have unlimited space and bandwidth if I need it, do you have any bandwidth limits?
I've started hosting files for the android/kaiser project but haven't moved out into the rest of the site so far.
My idea was to just register under a username (hopefully associated with your xda account) and upload your files without size limit (unless it's over 1GB?) and also provide a link for users to view all your posted files/ROMs etc.
Seeing you're already looking into this, maybe I'll still do it, maybe I won't :-D
BTW, thanks for giving back!
Well i have my own physical server in a UK datacenter. Physical as in if i wanted to i could go there and pick it up etc.
It's an intel xeon quad core server with 4gb ram and loads of space!
It's hosted on a dedicated 100mbit connection, with offsite backups located in the USA.
Those intrested ping fbdn.net we run ESXI so basically emulating OS's for better performance etc
I dont see a problem with hosting these files will check my datacenters TOS and AUP in a sec
Hi there.
Wouldn't it be nice if xda-developers ha a system for letting the users create torrents when they need to upload something? Many of the developers here use sites like rapidshare and similar to upload their stuff. I don't like those sites and would rather see that the uploaders used a torrent system.
I can create a separate torrent page for you if you like...
Great Idea
dongrif said:
Hi there.
Wouldn't it be nice if xda-developers ha a system for letting the users create torrents when they need to upload something? Many of the developers here use sites like rapidshare and similar to upload their stuff. I don't like those sites and would rather see that the uploaders used a torrent system.
I can create a separate torrent page for you if you like...
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You nailed it buddy..We need exactly the same !..I am using a 16 MBPS connection and it can't do jack since it seems the ISP is using some proxy kinda system and whenever I try and download...it says your Quota is finished.. Anyways, I hope we have such a system too..I won't mind uploading ROMS using Torrents to other users..
Niice Idea
would be pretty cool and lessen the need for mirrors
Torrents are associated with warez so I don´t think this idea will be moving forwards
We do the association with loading "sinful things" using torrents...so WE as in the general Internet Users started it..I feel that if we start using torrents for sharing ROMs etc..that perception..at least between XDA users will change..and how about Private Trackers...
Explanation as per one of the websites..Looks legit enough to me..
A private tracker is a tracker which allows only registered users to download torrents. The registered users are required to maintain a certain upload-to-download ratio and are banned if the ratio is too low. This ensures that the users don’t just leech the files but also seed them after downloading it completely, which in turn ensures that you get very fast download speeds.
bamit99 said:
We do the association with loading "sinful things" using torrents...so WE as in the general Internet Users started it..I feel that if we start using torrents for sharing ROMs etc..that perception..at least between XDA users will change..and how about Private Trackers...
Explanation as per one of the websites..Looks legit enough to me..
A private tracker is a tracker which allows only registered users to download torrents. The registered users are required to maintain a certain upload-to-download ratio and are banned if the ratio is too low. This ensures that the users don’t just leech the files but also seed them after downloading it completely, which in turn ensures that you get very fast download speeds.
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Sounds good to me
I've experimented with torrents as a distribution means, but it just doesn't work, as a huge %age of our users were in the UK, most with appalling upload speeds.
You can't expect people to seed a file to a 1:1 ratio if they are on a 30 KBps upload (absolute max), but 8 Mbps down... Bear in mind that at 30 KBps you would have your uploads saturated, so 10 KB/s is more realistic...
And XDA-Developers does not get involved in the distribution of ROMs, or their storage.
Hmm... To be fair my upload speed that I get is about 3kb/s where as download is about 200kb/s
So I won't be able to keep up that ratio
MacaronyMax said:
Hmm... To be fair my upload speed that I get is about 3kb/s where as download is about 200kb/s
So I won't be able to keep up that ratio
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No worries buddy.. I am sure out of 3 millions XDA Users, we will find a lot with a decent bandwidth Internet...
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Torrents are associated with warez so I don´t think this idea will be moving forwards
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Thats very inaccurate. Its just a means of acquiring "illegal" content. Thats like saying cars are associated with hit and runs so nobody should drive.
Ok you words are more precise
nvm, someone beat me to the torrent thing.
Anyway, if torrents were also web-seeded I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
AdrianK said:
nvm, someone beat me to the torrent thing.
Anyway, if torrents were also web-seeded I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
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Who would pay for the servers required for web seeding?
XDA won't get involved in distribution of ROMs, and as a server admin, I can assure you that I wouldn't want the traffic from a web seeding box on any of my servers... While it's all a lovely hypothetical idea, torrents just don't seem to be the best way to distribute ROMs. Someone ultimately has to upload the file to other peers at their broadband upload speed... Who's gonna wait an hour downloading a file from me, only to then have to seed to someone else? Starting them off would take ages
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Just wondering, never really been in the WM scene, and I was wondering how much roughlyin MB are the Roms?? For android they re 90MB on average, You could get like a stock cynageon rom only being 60mb and a full sense rom 110 ish lol
Thanks
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WM Energy ROM for Leo is about 170Mb but leaves you more free RAM than Android Froyo 2.2...
orb3000 said:
WM Energy ROM for Leo is about 170Mb but leaves you more free RAM than Android Froyo 2.2...
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Cool thanks
Im thinking I may take this project on, If your a knowledgeable person when ity comes to roms or ideally a dev and would like to be staff on a xda releases torrent site drop me a pm.
If there is allot of interest in this I may provide the site/server/webseeds
I know this is old news but I thought I could at least put my two cents in:
I have been on other private trackers that are closer to a .8:1 ratio. To help those with severely throttled uploads, couldn't we make it more like .1:1?
I am not a coder, but love what you guys do, and I use many of your solutions. I would love to have a way to contribute back on a consistent basis. I have a 1MB upload (which I realize isn't huge) and lots of HD space, and a computer that stays on 24/7. I figure those of us that have a decent upload will help those that can't share much back.
I'd like to say that I support this fully! One more advantage that needs to be listed would the ability to resume downloads and not need to restart corrupt ones!
Dear Admins,
I am writing to you on behalf of many users from Countries with slow and unreliable internet connections.
I'm having slow internet connection and the download stops mid way while downloading roms of 1GB+ sizes. What a frustrating waste of time and bandwidth!!
There are many people like me who are victims of these 1 GB+ sized roms. We want to try out these roms just as much as anybody else, but its really kills us to wait for 4 to 5 hours for the downlaod and then see it abort half way without a resume support. I want to reach out to Sr Devs and admins to switch to a resume supported file-hosts or something like torrents where all devs could create and upload their rom torrents. Downloading from torrent is much more convenient since there is a resume support.
If this is not the right section, please move the thread accordingly.
Thank you.
in actuall the roms are not of this much bigger size,,, but ur option seems to be gud :good:
I agree with you, sometimes downloads are quite long. the advantage of torrents is to download at any time, with no lost connection.
We actually include a torrent option for those who use the XDA Download system for their DevDB projects.
I think the reason why developers use their own option is so they can track the downloads of their rom.
I'm not sure if it is, but if it is possible in the centralized torrent hub, maybe the developers would definitely use it.
if it is possible, maybe the developers don't know bout this service and we need to get the word out there