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Bug tracker website? Would that help? (I'm offering)

Ok. Short story of what I want to do and why.
I am a developer and I feel that I don't contribute enough to this fantastic site and its users. After the recent unpleasantness I went away and thought about what it is that I could do to try and fix this. My idea is a site or section of the wiki built specifically to track bugs and issues in new roms (I was specifically thinking WMXL but there is no reason this can't be used for all of them).
I am currently working on my own XML based site with PHP5 driving and if people think it will be useful I'd write and host this service before I continued with my own site (hopefully before WMXL 0.30 is released).
I want to try and restrict the way people enter and search the information relating to problems with new roms and try to cut out the background noise. I was thinking about having fields such as ROM version (drop down list), radio version (text box), boot loader (drop down list), main program affected (text box), extent of interference (drop down list), description of problem (text area), how to reproduce error (mandatory text area!).
This will hopefully encourage more people to think about what might be causing the problem rather than just posting what they cant do and expecting someone else to work everything out. Forcing a description of how to recreate the problem will hopefully find most users not needing to post after they work it out, and if the recreation steps dont work then the post will be closed. Hopefully people will think enough that I will be able to moderate this forum (type thing) myself and maybe someone in another timezone (closer to the UK) can take care of it while im asleep.
No one can stop n00bs posting silly questions but hopefully we can reduce the amount this annoys everyone else.
Sorry it took so long to describe my idea.
Maz
UPDATE: STARTED!
I got started as soon as I'd got a couple of replies but I still need you all.
For the chef's and other brilliant people:
1. What info do you need with each ticket to try solve them?
2. Do you want to be the only one to close tickets? Or should the submitter be able to?
3. What info do you want to store for the roms to filter to the smallest pool of specific tickets?
For the users:
1. How do you want to be able to search this?
I DON'T ASK FOR DONATIONS! ALL I ASK IS THAT PEOPLE SEARCH BEFORE SUBMITTING!
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Bugzilla? yes please

This is a very good idea. In fact, I think that we need too a place to store the temporary fixes generated after each ROM publishing. It will be a good place for this too.

Good Idea.
It Would Help A Lot, Sounds Like Finding Answers Would Be Easier And Should Cut Down On The Hostile Atmosphere.
Cheers

Yes, very good idea.
This become easyest forum for everyone.

If it would be of any use, i can host this on one of our UK servers so we get very good speeds? I know 'iammaz' has said he can host it but he is in Australia so for the UK guys it might be a tad slow.
If not then no worries, but just trying to do my bit!

jaso2005 said:
If it would be of any use, i can host this on one of our UK servers so we get very good speeds? I know 'iammaz' has said he can host it but he is in Australia so for the UK guys it might be a tad slow.
If not then no worries, but just trying to do my bit!
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Cheers and I'm sure everyone appreciates the offer. My site is hosted in the US. At the moment this is being built as a module to my current CMS. Whether or not this adds too much overhead I won't know until I try. The problem will be if I use too much cpu time im sure it's against the ToS with my hosting company and they will shut me down.
I hope that I will have it built as a stand alone object by then and anyone else can take this and run this on php5 hosting or in fact I could run it as web services from my personal server at home.
Progress goes well. Just working on possible searching and indexing algorithms to make searching fast and useful.
Maz
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I can't believe I forget to type this.
http://maz.net.au/

Great idea

It's 2am. I'm piking for the night. I'm expecting a phone call at 7am tomorrow so will be back into it then for 5 or 6 hours. Hopefully will be almost done by the end of that.
I need to work out how you want to have logins work. I don't think i can make it authenticate against this forum (i havent tried integrating with vBulletin before). Do I allow open registration? do I try make it force you to register the same name but PM'ing the password to that username here? do i manually add people as they ask and restrict the group?
let me know in the next 6 hours or so.
Maz
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Badly styled CMS can be seen here. (new version looks so much better )
http://maz.net.au/

Open registration, but obviously grant privileges to those of us who classify as developers.

Olipro said:
Open registration, but obviously grant privileges to those of us who classify as developers.
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And super-user privileges for the chef's for bug tickets that apply to their cooked roms.
Maz
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hard at work again at http://maz.net.au/

Offer to Cookers

All this rapid share, yadda yadda is really getting old quick. If at least a few ROM Cookers are interested. I'll setup a space on my server to allow uploads that point back to an HTTP download section. You would be responsible for uploading the file, then posting a link here on XDA that would be a direct download link. The uploads would be handled by a passworded FTP account. I have about 400gig of download to spare per month, which should be more than enough for a bunch of Roms. Either reply here or send me a PM and we can talk.
I can also set it up, so that people can go to a root folder and find all the Roms and just pick the ones they want. Heck I can even store older Roms on the server so if someone wants an old one it will be up there.
1st point, there will be no warez posted.
2nd point, you must be a recognized cooker.
Well Cookers, drop a line and let me know.
It would end up being something like this, with each cooker having his own folder.
http://captfiero.com/videos

This has been done, before, twice.
And both times, the file disappeared, or the person did, within 4 days.

Well, not Jannaa's!!!! I use it aplace4u.biz and it's AMAZING!!

veyka said:
This has been done, before, twice.
And both times, the file disappeared, or the person did, within 4 days.
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The only reason I could see a person leaving is if Microsoft sent a letter saying they did not like people cooking the roms and throwing a hissy fit. I have went ahead and created the folder on my remote server and am uploading stuff right now. I have not made the ftp account for uploading, however I should be able to allow open access to what I have on there in about 2hrs.

Capt Fiero said:
The only reason I could see a person leaving is if Microsoft sent a letter saying they did not like people cooking the roms and throwing a hissy fit. I have went ahead and created the folder on my remote server and am uploading stuff right now. I have not made the ftp account for uploading, however I should be able to allow open access to what I have on there in about 2hrs.
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I hate rapidshare as much as the next non premium person, so i hope this gets off the ground. people don't even use aspupload, or whatever its called..

Ok the Basic is up, http://www.captfiero.com/romsYou will have to mouse over the file name if it is too long to show up, and then just look at your tool bar to see the entire name.
If anyone see's a file that should not be there. (copyrighted) Please let me know and I will remove it.
Also if a file is something "YOU" made or prefer me not to have up, let me know and I will remove it.
I will not make the upload address public so if you want files uploaded, you can send me a PM and I will upload it, or if you are an established cooker, I will give you direct upload settings.

hmm
I am sure my chef would love this feature, his connection sucks back home though, so if this is genuine I will start mirroring his stuff here too ... I guess the more mirrors the better, I been mirroring to 4shared and mediafire all this time... seems to work well
Just FYI tho, CRCinAU has at least around 100GB of traffic a day (may be he can correct me on this) ...

zocster said:
I am sure my chef would love this feature, his connection sucks back home though, so if this is genuine I will start mirroring his stuff here too ... I guess the more mirrors the better, I been mirroring to 4shared and mediafire all this time... seems to work well
Just FYI tho, CRCinAU has at least around 100GB of traffic a day (may be he can correct me on this) ...
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He said something like that somewhere.. If you think, most rom topics get 1k+ hits per day.. and say 100 download.. a 50 meg file, that's 5gig from nowhere..
And when a new rom is out..

Well I have 1200gig total traffic allowed, I use about 400gig a month for Videos and I want to keep about 400gig aside for spikes. That leaves me about 400gig to play with. I can't mirror the entire PPC world, but the latest roms and a few add ons would be fine.

heh - where abouts is this mirror located?
At the moment, my mirroring system is handling the load quite well - I have a total of 5 mirrors around the globe (1 x EU, 3 x US, 1 x AU) and the amount of traffic is much lower than it was a month ago on the one AU server because of the way things are spread out now.
The mirroring scripts will auto-detect where the user is and send them to the nearest server (or if we don't have a server near you, we randomly pick one to share the load).
You'll notice this is why I don't have direct links to anything anymore - it's all to my download script.
Even DeviceUpdate uses this script to custom-generate it's index based on where you are
That being said, as of my typing this, since 28th August, I've served:
Release 12.11 ROMs: 270 @ 40Mb each (10.8Gb)
Release 11.2 ROMs: 38 @ 41Mb each (1.55Gb)
Device Update Sessions: 1,235 (unknown download amount)
That's pretty good for less than 4 days
Some more mirrors would be nice - although mirrors in the US are probably not as helpful as the rest of the world... There's ~1Gb of content to be mirrored and count on ~100Gb per month of traffic in a lazy month.

FYI: Developers thread options: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388819

To my knowledge it is a US based server. I am personally in Canada however it seems that US hosts are far cheaper. I'll send ya a PM with the details.

Free File Mirror Hosting!

I was just wondering would anyone be interested in free file hosting for your ROM/s. What i ask in return is...well...donations...i may ask for a favour in return at a later date or something?
I'm giving chefs and application developers this as a way of saying thanks for all their hard work. That, plus im sick of the slow transfers of dodgy file share/hosting sites like rapid$hare and [email protected]
What you get:
-Free FTP account so you can upload your files with UNLIMITED storage/data transfers.
What you need to do:
Visit www.intertubes.info and read the front cover and shoot me an e-mail or PM on here and let me know why you deserve an account, and it will all be set up for you and i'll e-mail/PM you back with how to get started
At this stage i'll start with a limited number of seats.

lasterato said:
I was just wondering would anyone be interested in free file hosting for your ROM/s. What i ask in return is...well...donations...i may ask for a favour in return at a later date or something?
I'm giving chefs and application developers this as a way of saying thanks for all their hard work. That, plus im sick of the slow transfers of dodgy file share/hosting sites like rapid$hare and [email protected]
What you get:
-Free FTP account so you can upload your files with UNLIMITED storage/data transfers.
What you need to do:
Visit www.intertubes.info and read the front cover and shoot me an e-mail or PM on here and let me know why you deserve an account, and it will all be set up for you and i'll e-mail/PM you back with how to get started
At this stage i'll start with a limited number of seats.
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Lasterato
Thinks is a very good offer which I really appreciate however bl0w is doing exactly the same thing at the moment and is doing a fantastic job of this. I'm not sure wether there will be a demand for this as we are very happy with bl0w's services.
See what the other chef's say anyway. I guess you can't have enough mirrors!
Regards
Shaks

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Lasterato
Thinks is a very good offer which I really appreciate however bl0w is doing exactly the same thing at the moment and is doing a fantastic job of this. I'm not sure wether there will be a demand for this as we are very happy with bl0w's services.
See what the other chef's say anyway. I guess you can't have enough mirrors!
Regards
Shaks
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I'm willing to work side by side with bl0w, presuming that they're happy to do so...i haven't seen enough non-rapid$hare type links to be satisfied

Just thought I would say thanks to lasterato, also is this server based in Australia cause that would be tops for us aussies haha, also im with you on the NO CLEAN FILTER!!
Thanks again for your contribution!

luckyluke1137 said:
Just thought I would say thanks to lasterato, also is this server based in Australia cause that would be tops for us aussies haha, also im with you on the NO CLEAN FILTER!!
Thanks again for your contribution!
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Sadly no...they're like millions per month. I basically just had the site for some file-storage stuff, and though i'm not going to use it all. I usually get awesome speeds off it anyways. So it's a win win situation i say!

lasterato said:
Sadly no...they're like millions per month. I basically just had the site for some file-storage stuff, and though i'm not going to use it all. I usually get awesome speeds off it anyways. So it's a win win situation i say!
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I can offer 100Mbit hosting, yet there's no point in it since someone else is already doing a very good job at it.
My suggestion: You can always contat bl0w in order to rsync his server to yours, and that would be exactly this: mirroring.
Then again, what's the point in this, or even load balancing?
It's not like he gets overloads.
A.

adwinp said:
I can offer 100Mbit hosting, yet there's no point in it since someone else is already doing a very good job at it.
My suggestion: You can always contat bl0w in order to rsync his server to yours, and that would be exactly this: mirroring.
Then again, what's the point in this, or even load balancing?
It's not like he gets overloads.
A.
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Very true...meh, will see if anything results from it

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Torrents

Hi there.
Wouldn't it be nice if xda-developers ha a system for letting the users create torrents when they need to upload something? Many of the developers here use sites like rapidshare and similar to upload their stuff. I don't like those sites and would rather see that the uploaders used a torrent system.
I can create a separate torrent page for you if you like...

Great Idea
dongrif said:
Hi there.
Wouldn't it be nice if xda-developers ha a system for letting the users create torrents when they need to upload something? Many of the developers here use sites like rapidshare and similar to upload their stuff. I don't like those sites and would rather see that the uploaders used a torrent system.
I can create a separate torrent page for you if you like...
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You nailed it buddy..We need exactly the same !..I am using a 16 MBPS connection and it can't do jack since it seems the ISP is using some proxy kinda system and whenever I try and download...it says your Quota is finished.. Anyways, I hope we have such a system too..I won't mind uploading ROMS using Torrents to other users..

Niice Idea

would be pretty cool and lessen the need for mirrors

Torrents are associated with warez so I don´t think this idea will be moving forwards

We do the association with loading "sinful things" using torrents...so WE as in the general Internet Users started it..I feel that if we start using torrents for sharing ROMs etc..that perception..at least between XDA users will change..and how about Private Trackers...
Explanation as per one of the websites..Looks legit enough to me..
A private tracker is a tracker which allows only registered users to download torrents. The registered users are required to maintain a certain upload-to-download ratio and are banned if the ratio is too low. This ensures that the users don’t just leech the files but also seed them after downloading it completely, which in turn ensures that you get very fast download speeds.

bamit99 said:
We do the association with loading "sinful things" using torrents...so WE as in the general Internet Users started it..I feel that if we start using torrents for sharing ROMs etc..that perception..at least between XDA users will change..and how about Private Trackers...
Explanation as per one of the websites..Looks legit enough to me..
A private tracker is a tracker which allows only registered users to download torrents. The registered users are required to maintain a certain upload-to-download ratio and are banned if the ratio is too low. This ensures that the users don’t just leech the files but also seed them after downloading it completely, which in turn ensures that you get very fast download speeds.
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Sounds good to me

I've experimented with torrents as a distribution means, but it just doesn't work, as a huge %age of our users were in the UK, most with appalling upload speeds.
You can't expect people to seed a file to a 1:1 ratio if they are on a 30 KBps upload (absolute max), but 8 Mbps down... Bear in mind that at 30 KBps you would have your uploads saturated, so 10 KB/s is more realistic...
And XDA-Developers does not get involved in the distribution of ROMs, or their storage.

Hmm... To be fair my upload speed that I get is about 3kb/s where as download is about 200kb/s
So I won't be able to keep up that ratio

MacaronyMax said:
Hmm... To be fair my upload speed that I get is about 3kb/s where as download is about 200kb/s
So I won't be able to keep up that ratio
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No worries buddy.. I am sure out of 3 millions XDA Users, we will find a lot with a decent bandwidth Internet...

orb3000 said:
Torrents are associated with warez so I don´t think this idea will be moving forwards
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Thats very inaccurate. Its just a means of acquiring "illegal" content. Thats like saying cars are associated with hit and runs so nobody should drive.

Ok you words are more precise

nvm, someone beat me to the torrent thing.
Anyway, if torrents were also web-seeded I see no reason why it wouldn't work.

AdrianK said:
nvm, someone beat me to the torrent thing.
Anyway, if torrents were also web-seeded I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
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Who would pay for the servers required for web seeding?
XDA won't get involved in distribution of ROMs, and as a server admin, I can assure you that I wouldn't want the traffic from a web seeding box on any of my servers... While it's all a lovely hypothetical idea, torrents just don't seem to be the best way to distribute ROMs. Someone ultimately has to upload the file to other peers at their broadband upload speed... Who's gonna wait an hour downloading a file from me, only to then have to seed to someone else? Starting them off would take ages

***Off topic***
Just wondering, never really been in the WM scene, and I was wondering how much roughlyin MB are the Roms?? For android they re 90MB on average, You could get like a stock cynageon rom only being 60mb and a full sense rom 110 ish lol
Thanks

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WM Energy ROM for Leo is about 170Mb but leaves you more free RAM than Android Froyo 2.2...

orb3000 said:
WM Energy ROM for Leo is about 170Mb but leaves you more free RAM than Android Froyo 2.2...
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Cool thanks

Im thinking I may take this project on, If your a knowledgeable person when ity comes to roms or ideally a dev and would like to be staff on a xda releases torrent site drop me a pm.
If there is allot of interest in this I may provide the site/server/webseeds

I know this is old news but I thought I could at least put my two cents in:
I have been on other private trackers that are closer to a .8:1 ratio. To help those with severely throttled uploads, couldn't we make it more like .1:1?
I am not a coder, but love what you guys do, and I use many of your solutions. I would love to have a way to contribute back on a consistent basis. I have a 1MB upload (which I realize isn't huge) and lots of HD space, and a computer that stays on 24/7. I figure those of us that have a decent upload will help those that can't share much back.

I'd like to say that I support this fully! One more advantage that needs to be listed would the ability to resume downloads and not need to restart corrupt ones!

XDA Tracker

Hi!
I'm no developer, but wanna help all the good folks here at the forums. So I decided to set up a torrent tracker for all of you. Most developers are sharing their files via cyberlockers (like MediaFire, etc...) which is not really an option for some people. I thought a torrent tracker would be much easier and more efficient way for distributing the files (like ROMs, Themes).
Here is the link for the tracker: http://619media.hu/xdadev/
If you want to upload a file PM me for username and password.
Announce URL if you create a torrent file: http://619media.hu/xdadev/announce.php
I've uploaded zdzihu's xRecovery for the X10 as a test. If there are any problems, you can't download, etc. please PM me. I know, there will be some problems at the beginning, but I hope we can make it work.
Cheers,
DRuNKeN MaSTeR
@MODs: if this is not the appropriate forum for this thread please feel free to move it. Also, if the tracker conflicts with your rules, contact me.

That is a GREAT idea, does it happen to support HTTP seeding also? Because in addition to this it would also be awesome to have a kinda standard drop box that isnt like the other file dumpsters.

Hi!
Yup, supports HTTP seeding Currently only 5 simultaneous uploads with 100KB/s each, but I can take it higher if this catches on.
EDIT: RT supports 2 types of HTTP seeding:
- "Use BitTornado HTTP seeding specification: Relative location of file or directory, e.g. ../../files/file.zip" -> I can give limited space on my server for this type (about 30-40GB).
- "Use GetRight HTTP seeding specification: FTP/HTTP URL of file or directory, e.g. http://yourwebsite.com/file.zip" -> this everybody can use.

Bump! Nobody interested?

This is a GREAT idea!
You should discreetly pm some developers, as they probably haven't seen the thread

I'm with this. Just hang in there till word gets around about it. You've built it, now they will come

Of 'course people are interested. YOU DA MAN!
No Sieriously - Thanks so much.

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any torrent i create i just copy and paste a list of about 30 known working trackers into the settings of create torrent, works like a charm, no password bull, create & start seeding, put the .torrent up on forum or PM out... dont know why this would be needed....
http://inferno.demonoid.com:3416/announce
http://tracker2.istole.it:6969/announce
http://www.h33t.com:3310/announce
http://tracker.istole.it:80/announce
http://exodus.1337x.org/announce
http://nemesis.1337x.org/announce
http://genesis.1337x.org:1337/announce
http://tracker.publicbt.com/announce
http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce
http://tracker.torrentbay.to:6969/announce
http://cpleft.com:2710/announce
http://h33t.com:3310/announce
http://papaja.v2v.cc:6970/announce
http://tracker.desi6.com:7979/3paz2gybgymgo6aub7e9d3u15784ubfx/announce
http://tracker.packy.se:2710/announce
http://dttracker.debian.net:6969/announce
http://tracker.torrent.to:2710/announce
http://tracker.bitreactor.to:2710/announce
http://tracker.ccc.de/announce
http://umunu.com:1984/announce
http://opentracker.umunu.com:80/announce
http://p2p.lineage2.com.cn:6969/announce
http://PhoenixRG.no-ip.org:2710/announce
http://gdbt.3322.org:6969/announce
http://star-tw.no-ip.org/announce.php
http://exodus.desync.com:6969/announce
http://222.171.190.184:7000/announce
http://scene-project.com/announce.php
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Really cool idea. Will use it for my firmwares.

This is a great idea
This is a bloody good idea! I wish more of the ROM dev's would use it.

Eh not being a negative nancy but I thought mods already decided against using torrents for roms there's a thread in the about xda section for it
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA App

Bierce22 said:
Eh not being a negative nancy but I thought mods already decided against using torrents for roms there's a thread in the about xda section for it
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Torrents have a bad rap because of their association with...unsavory material, but the torrent protocol itself is actually a very efficient way of distributing large files to large numbers of people. Just look at big linux distro releases, ubuntu especially. It is simply a data transmission technology just like email, FTP, or HTTP in that they can be used to transfer files.
I for one would love to donate some of my bandwidth and seed things for XDA, at the very least everything I download and use if not setting up a seedbox.
Hopefully XDA seriously considers embracing torrents and encourages devs to upload to and users to seed on the official tracker in addition to the current methods (for n00bs or those who don't want to set up a torrent client). I'm sure everyone would appreciate not having to negotiate the megaupload-style sites with ads (and what about their uploaded content licensing?) only to get throttled bandwidth.

Sorry to say but the link to dl the app/prog is broken? Cheers

THis thread is 3 years old. XDA has it's own use of torrents through the DevDB projects.