[Q] ARHD CID thing - HTC One X

So I get this new OneX, and as usual, I come here to find a good rom and all that
I find ARHD 31.3 to be good thing, nearest to Sense 5(actually, is sense 5) and I read all Mike's OP. But somethings bug me, as I've never seen them, or did them before.
Firstly, do I need to do the CID thing that's there like how to flash a JB ROM...? Is it ICS specific, like coming from ICS...? I don't know whether HOX came with ICS, cuz mine runs 4.1.2 and I'm on HBoot above 1.3, or whatever.
Secondly, Mike's ROM got an boot.img in itself, so why do I need to download the extra boot.img file..? I know we gotta flash boot.img separately again, but why providing it extra...? If its ROM related, then explain, if its got to do something with noobs, then consider query answered.
Third, why is Mike's ROM 700MB!!!! When the OTA is about just 300 mb...? Just kidding I don't care if its 700GB Just need first question answered.

If you received JB update via OTA your good to flash arhd 31.3.
Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.

maxilick said:
If you received JB update via OTA your good to flash arhd 31.3.
Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.
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the primary thing that bugs me is CID thing. surely by now, most of the HOX are running a JB ROM, so why does mike include all that confusing stuff in hi OP...? I'm no noob to android, and I've flashed my fair share of mods and ROMs, but this OneX is an exception. like i mentioned before, my hboot is 1.36.0000. my handset was manufactured in November. and yes the Sense5 update is trolling me, so I'm good to flash arhd now...?

alicarbovader said:
my hboot is 1.36.0000. my handset was manufactured in November. and yes the Sense5 update is trolling me, so I'm good to flash arhd now...?
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Yes, you are. Just go for it. My phone is on 31.2, with 1.36 hboot.

[email protected]|-|oR said:
Yes, you are. Just go for it. My phone is on 31.2, with 1.36 hboot.
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One more thing, will rooting and unlocking my HOX erase data on the sd partition too...? Cuz that kinda happened with my old htc desire and i wasn't too happy with that...

alicarbovader said:
One more thing, will rooting and unlocking my HOX erase data on the sd partition too...? Cuz that kinda happened with my old htc desire and i wasn't too happy with that...
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Didn't happen to me. You may be luckier
Seriously, while unlocking the bootloader, your data partition gets wiped, but system and sd card should remain untouched. Rooting, on the other hand has no impact to your phone's partitions.
With Desire it was different (had it too). I heard that One has the same situation.
With HOX things are like this...

[email protected]|-|oR said:
Didn't happen to me. You may be luckier
Seriously, while unlocking the bootloader, your data partition gets wiped, but system and sd card should remain untouched. Rooting, on the other hand has no impact to your phone's partitions.
With Desire it was different (had it too). I heard that One has the same situation.
With HOX things are like this...
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Got it unlocked and rooted. Now running ARHD for starters. Will soon be shifting to aosp

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Can't s-off alpharev

Hi guys I'm trying to s-off using alpharev ISO disc...it goes through the process then after rebooting stage 3 I get 4 lines that say unary operator expected ... I shut down pc and phone boots as usual...
I'm running rxmix s v1.1
maybe change to stock ROM and try s-off again
Yes like the post above switch to a ROOTED stock froyo rom worked for me, the reason your getting errors is because the rom you are running has probably got data2whatever, data++ ect... this affects the alpha rev process.
Ditto above. Alpharev doesn't work on a2sd or similar ROMs... Look back a couple pages and you'll see I started a thread with the same issue. I'm on IC GB a2sd+...
Once pc is repaired, I plan to load stock Telstra RUU and try again, then re-root...
bailz2506 said:
Hi guys I'm trying to s-off using alpharev ISO disc...it goes through the process then after rebooting stage 3 I get 4 lines that say unary operator expected ... I shut down pc and phone boots as usual...
I'm running rxmix s v1.1
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First, you better use USB stick instead of a disc, it is faster a more reliable.
Secondly, you won't be able to get s-off unless you flash either stock rom or AOSP rom ( oxygen worked for me without any problems).
mikeraul said:
First, you better use USB stick instead of a disc, it is faster a more reliable.
Secondly, you won't be able to get s-off unless you flash either stock rom or AOSP rom ( oxygen worked for me without any problems).
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+1, I s-off my phone with oxygen running on it.
ThaNx everyone for the help will try it that way and let you all no if it worked
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
thanks everyone for the help it worked fine now i have fully rooted and s-offed htc desire...now to get back into the flashing fun.
When the moderator reads this i have no problems if this thread is deleted thanks again
bailz2506 said:
thanks everyone for the help it worked fine now i have fully rooted and s-offed htc desire...now to get back into the flashing fun.
When the moderator reads this i have no problems if this thread is deleted thanks again
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Happy to hear
Hi folks. Writing this without any hope that someone is online at the moment.
I'm currently using alpharev to flash HBOOT on my htc desire. It has stucked on step 3 with two lines on phone's screen:
Aplharev SPLBOOT version 2.0
...
Normal NAND detected. Non-PVT4
and keeps hanging like that nearly an hour already.
The phone is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery and InserCoin 2.0.1 DATA2EXT ROM installed.
Did anybody have the same behaviour while flashing HBOOT?
Should I be patient and wait for some miracle to happen?
thanks in advance.
Are you S-Off already??
use the new S-OFF utility. It's a lot quicker and easier. Just make sure you uninstall HTC Sync, or at least make sure it isn't running.
777ace said:
Are you S-Off already??
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no...
just saw here an advice to wait for a long term and the to pull out the battery and reboot.
did as he said.
device is rebooting in fastboot mode...
will try to restore previous ROM from recovery mode...
n0vice said:
no...
just saw here an advice to wait for a long term and the to pull out the battery and reboot.
did as he said.
device is rebooting in fastboot mode...
will try to restore previous ROM from recovery mode...
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try it with the new utility.. it should work for you..
finally I've restored my previous ROM (and sh*tted a pile of bricks during this hour).
HBOOT screen says that my device is still S-ON. strange... maybe that's because of 'DATA2EXT' ROM onboard.
bortak said:
use the new "...revolutionary.io/" S-OFF utility. It's a lot quicker and easier. Just make sure you uninstall HTC Sync, or at least make sure it isn't running.
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thanks. I'll try it when my hands will stop shaking
You won't be able to alter HBoot without S-Off...
I am not sure how the new Utility that bortak linked to works, but I know that the "old" alpharev will not S-Off if you are using A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT type ROMs. You will need to flash stock RUU (do not use latest GB update RUU!!!), or one of the AOSP ROMs, such as Oxygen, before proceeding.
Once you have S-Off, you can go back and re-root, then upgrade your HBoot etc.
777ace said:
You won't be able to alter HBoot without S-Off...
I am not sure how the new Utility that bortak linked to works, but I know that the "old" alpharev will not S-Off if you are using A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT type ROMs. You will need to flash stock RUU (do not use latest GB update RUU!!!), or one of the AOSP ROMs, such as Oxygen, before proceeding.
Once you have S-Off, you can go back and re-root, then upgrade your HBoot etc.
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thanks. I'll follow your advice.
I'm still wondering, why TUT-makers didn't mention this A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT ROMs inconsistency.
I think this should be written in large letters on the first line for noobs like me
Lol, you're right on that!!
If you look on alpharev site, it is mentioned in the text, but VERY small!
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I missed it the first time also, had lots of dramas, and finally spotted that note after many frustrating hours. It should have been written in bright red, 72 cap at the top of screen!!
You need to use an a2sd Rom like lee Droid 2.5.
Alpha rev state this at start of web page using data2sd can cause problems.
Flash lee Droid 2.5 and try it again, you should be fine
Kind regards
John
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
It is being said on Alpharev website under "requirements".
Though I agree it should be said in tutorials too.
n0vice said:
thanks. I'll follow your advice.
I'm still wondering, why TUT-makers didn't mention this A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT ROMs inconsistency.
I think this should be written in large letters on the first line for noobs like me
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[Q] HTC Desire 2.3.3 Official Update Custom ROM?

Hi guys. Sorry if this is similar to another question in these Q&A sections but i've gone through so many threads that i'm sick to the bones and ready to blow.
I have the original HTC Desire S-LCD model (slightly slower people, please note it is NOT the S, Z or HD, you don't know how many times this happens) and i used the official update for 2.3.3 gingerbread from the HTC developer site. The thing is though, it's very buggy and the lack of space is annoying me. I managed to get S-Off and install Revolutionary recovery onto it.
(HBOOT version says 6.93.1002 (not sure why it has the 6 part) and it says "Bravo PVT3 Ship S-Off")
I tried using root programs but none of them worked on it. To flash another ROM do i have to root it or can i just flash from this stage? Also what ROM would you guys reccommend? I'm wanting one with the new sense 3.0 or even the HTC Desire S ROM with sense 2.1 and apps2sd. I'm constantly uninstalling and reinstalling apps co its always almost full.
Again, sorry if this is unneccessary spam that has been asked before but i'm tired, confused, sick and annoyed.
Thanks, Huzi.
And please for the love of god don't tell me to use the search bar. At least link me. Please?
You can get some cool ROMS here: http://www.cooldevs.com/ that include upto sense 3.5!
New ROM has be flashed from recovery. Always follow installation instructions when you flash a new rom. To find a good one, check the developers thread.
A good beginnersguide can be found here on XDA (Sticky in General section).
Swyped from ICS with Transparent XDA App
reboot into recovery (either through the bootloader, or by adb reboot recovery).
If you just get an exclamation mark in a triangle, you need to flash recovery. Look at my guide.
If you have a custom recovery, backup your rom (it's pretty self explanatory how), do a full format from mounts & storage (apart from your sd-card), then select flash zip from sd, and then choose a rom to flash. Don't ask which is best or what to recommend. It's all personal preference.
ROM's I frequent:
Cyanogenmod
MIUI XJ
I can recommend the noobs thread it tells you everything, I've used it many of times and you soon pick.up on stuff.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
MatDrOiD said:
New ROM has be flashed from recovery
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So what you're saying is that I don't need to root or create a goldcard or anything? As long as I have this custom recovery I can flash a new ROM?
Also another thing that worries me is the radio part of the ROM. That was the reason I had to send my phone back to HTC coz there was an error when it was at the ROM stage and wouldn't boot an OS after that.
Can I flash a new ROM without the radio or does that mean no calling etc?
And also does the radio have to be specific to my region and operator? (o2 uk)
(sorry about the long winded questions)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
huzi_a said:
So what you're saying is that I don't need to root or create a goldcard or anything? As long as I have this custom recovery I can flash a new ROM?
Also another thing that worries me is the radio part of the ROM. That was the reason I had to send my phone back to HTC coz there was an error when it was at the ROM stage and wouldn't boot an OS after that.
Can I flash a new ROM without the radio or does that mean no calling etc?
And also does the radio have to be specific to my region and operator? (o2 uk)
(sorry about the long winded questions)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yes, you don't need a goldcard to flash a new ROM. The radio doesn't affect the booting up of the OS, it just affects your network signal and anything else associated with the radio. The radio doesn't need to be flashed everytime you change ROM's. You can look here to see if you have the latest one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
The radios are not region specific
Thanks a lot for clarifying that. I think I'm gonna get started with a sense 3.0 ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
No problem bro hope you find a ROM to your liking. You could try this one its a 2.1+3.0 sense rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300224
You know what? Delete all tutorials. What's the point of having them, when suckers will jump to every n00b like superheroes and will re-write the same things all over again?
Terepin said:
You know what? Delete all tutorials. What's the point of having them, when suckers will jump like to every n00b like superheroes and will re-write the same things all over again?
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And let me ask you something. Is it such a crime to ask for help and give help? I've read through every tutorial i needed and still ran into problems. A store worker doesn't ignore you when you need something just coz people have asked before. By signing up to XDA you are automatically willing to help others or even help yourself when problems arise.
Revolutionary. Single word that fixes all. Instead, they gave you even recipes for secret cake! That's not helping, that's spamming.
grazy2266 said:
I can recommend the noobs thread it tells you everything, I've used it many of times and you soon pick.up on stuff.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Where is this noobs thread? Link Please.
Pardon my noobiness.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Maybe if it will has flashing lights and cool music n00bs will notice it...
Jesus sayd "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." and not "Kill the n00bs"
Two things:
1. Grammar FAIL!
2. I'm not their father.
Terepin, I just wanna say that I like your avatar. It adds character to your posts.
While thank you. I'm trying to do my best.

Urgent questions about Root + S-off

Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:
benno4403 said:
Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:
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root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah
Zinta said:
root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah
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hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
benno4403 said:
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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The bit where you can make it look like you never had a custom ROM and recovery installed.
On htcdev.com, there is an unlock method, but HTC have been known to invalidate their warranty for unlocked phones.
Your statutory rights are not affected, but it you'd have to go back to the retailer with problems (at least in the UK)
benno4403 said:
hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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When son you have to flash the boot.IMG for the ROMs using the computer. That means every time you want to flash a new ROM you have to use a computer also.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:
benno4403 said:
First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:
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Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
Tingelholm said:
Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay. thanks
I hope we might see a S-OFF for the one x in the near future then!
so to be clear, when I receive my phone tomorrow and want to install a custom ROM (for example android revolution)
I need to:
1. Root the phone
2. Install a custom recovery (like clockworkmod)
3. and then what?
because the description in the Android Revolution ROM topics states:
" You need:
HTC One X unlocked with htcdev.com (S-ON) or S-OFF <-- but I do not have to unlock it via htcdev to be able to install it?
ClockworkMod Recovery or 4EXT Touch Recovery (coming soon)
Firmware package from downloads section" <-- and does he mean by firmware package just ROM or?
sorry for all these questions but I am new to the One X and this other procedures
Thanks for the help and patience
You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).
BenPope said:
You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).
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Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.
benno4403 said:
Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.
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Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
Tingelholm said:
Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay thanks, I will check it out.
...or u take a look at THIS
Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.
PhoenixFx said:
Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.
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I think that only warranty connected with software not hardware
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX
Okay guys just received my one x.. so some of you suggest to wait before unlocking, rooting and flashing? (Just to test hardware or wait for soff?)
So are there many 'problem' phones?
Thanks guys
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app
I modded mine to my liking almost immediately, never looked back.
EDIT: Nevermind: got the token to work was something on the HTCDEV website
whynot66 said:
Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX
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It's like this: There are statutory rights. In addition to that there is a warranty. HTC are perfectly within their right to cancel a warranty, but your statutory rights continue.
In the UK, in practice, your rights are with the retailer, unless you purchased it on credit, in which case they stand with the finance company (in theory, but as a matter of practicality, hit up the retailer first).
Oh, IANAL.

[Q] CID, firmware, jellybean etc...

Hi all,
I have installed RD-MIUI Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...-bean-4-1-2-2-11-16-en-cm10-16-11-2012.17645/) on my HOX and it is working fine (a few bugs, but they are known).
My question is: why could I install it in the first place??? I didn't touch the hboot, but for many roms it looks like I need to upgrade it.
Why, for example; I am not supposed to be able to install Android Revolution HD 15?
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
My CID is HTCCN701 - so no firmware for it.
Can someone can explain to me how:
cid
hboot
kernel
rom
are related? And, although I understand the word and the wiki description, maybe a bit of explanation of what are concretely these entities, like which file is responsible for what, how these are layered, etc... I have a programming background, but I am still a bit lost concerning the architecture of android and its devices...
Thanks in advance!
froal said:
Hi all,
I have installed RD-MIUI Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...-bean-4-1-2-2-11-16-en-cm10-16-11-2012.17645/) on my HOX and it is working fine (a few bugs, but they are known).
My question is: why could I install it in the first place??? I didn't touch the hboot, but for many roms it looks like I need to upgrade it.
Why, for example; I am not supposed to be able to install Android Revolution HD 15?
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
My CID is HTCCN701 - so no firmware for it.
Can someone can explain to me how:
cid
hboot
kernel
rom
are related? And, although I understand the word and the wiki description, maybe a bit of explanation of what are concretely these entities, like which file is responsible for what, how these are layered, etc... I have a programming background, but I am still a bit lost concerning the architecture of android and its devices...
Thanks in advance!
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Upgrading the hboot is only required for Sense-based Jelly Bean ROMs. You will not require an upgraded Hboot to use AOSP/AOKP/CM10 based ROMs.
CID - basically just identifies region/carrier of phone
ROM - variations of the android OS, usually comes with custom software/tweaks etc.
Hboot - not too sure, but different versions have an effect on wifi, reception.
kernel - basically a component that serves as the bridge between software and hardware and allows them to communicate between each other.
tomascus said:
Upgrading the hboot is only required for Sense-based Jelly Bean ROMs. You will not require an upgraded Hboot to use AOSP/AOKP/CM10 based ROMs.
CID - basically just identifies region/carrier of phone
ROM - variations of the android OS, usually comes with custom software/tweaks etc.
Hboot - not too sure, but different versions have an effect on wifi, reception.
kernel - basically a component that serves as the bridge between software and hardware and allows them to communicate between each other.
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Just see the hboot as the BIOS on a pc
Guys, thanks for the clarification!
Another question though... How come I would need to upgrade my hboot (keeping the BIOS analogy) so that Jellybean-based Sense can be ran properly? Is that because Sense has access to low layers? From your explanation, I would have thought the kernel would do that job...
Indeed, if we compare to a PC, I usually don't need to upgrade my BIOS when I want to change my OS... Hence the reason why I am confused
Well the hboot (bootloader) part interacts with the kernel and this will talk with the rom....
Because the kernel and rom are updated with the new JB update, it needed an update from the hboot too so it can interact in correct way. I think this is the easiest way to explain it
hboot - kernel - rom.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG
I have been unclear about this as well (great question). This sounds like a good explanation (hey Marcel!). But I'm curious as to why my CID is HTC_203 and I'm on ARHD v15.0 and it says in the OP of that rom that I need to "upgrade my firmware" and when I look on the firmware thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376 it says that my CID should have hboot 1.31. So, apparently it's not absolutely necessary to have the latest firmware? My rom seems to be working fine. Also, if I now want to use an ICS rom, will my CID/firmware (hboot) be an issue?
Ugh, can't believe how much more complex this phone is compared to my old Nexus! lol (but it sure is beautiful!)
scott62185 said:
I have been unclear about this as well (great question). This sounds like a good explanation (hey Marcel!). But I'm curious as to why my CID is HTC_203 and I'm on ARHD v15.0 and it says in the OP of that rom that I need to "upgrade my firmware" and when I look on the firmware thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376 it says that my CID should have hboot 1.31. So, apparently it's not absolutely necessary to have the latest firmware? My rom seems to be working fine. Also, if I now want to use an ICS rom, will my CID/firmware (hboot) be an issue?
Ugh, can't believe how much more complex this phone is compared to my old Nexus! lol (but it sure is beautiful!)
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You have to check the hboot number if its higher as 1.12 then you have the JB hboot update. A JB rom will run on a lower hboot but that is only for the de-sensed roms !
And hboot number for ICS roms is irrelevant :thumbup:
MarcelHofs said:
You have to check the hboot number if its higher as 1.12 then you have the JB hboot update. A JB rom will run on a lower hboot but that is only for the de-sensed roms !
And hboot number for ICS roms is irrelevant :thumbup:
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Oh, wow. I see. :good:
Hboot can communicate with the hardware directly and controls all the security of the phone partitions.
Aside from booting the kernel
WiFi and other hardware bugs(dead sensors/sound and touch static electricity) were caused by incompatible hardware code between different hardware versions.
Edit: you only need to upgrade the hboot if you want to install a jb sense rom(stock or custom, restricted by sense+ software)
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Vcek said:
Hboot can communicate with the hardware directly and controls all the security of the phone partitions.
Aside from booting the kernel
WiFi and other hardware bugs(dead sensors/sound and touch static electricity) were caused by incompatible hardware code between different hardware versions.
Edit: you only need to upgrade the hboot if you want to install a jb sense rom(stock or custom, restricted by sense+ software)
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You mean I can flash a non-sense rom such as CM10 on my phone although I don't have a compatible cid?
From what i've read from the guide threads, you're supposed to have a cid similar to "HTC_001" or something like that to be able to flash a JB rom into the HTC one X. Am I wrong?
7ind said:
You mean I can flash a non-sense rom such as CM10 on my phone although I don't have a compatible cid?
From what i've read from the guide threads, you're supposed to have a cid similar to "HTC_001" or something like that to be able to flash a JB rom into the HTC one X. Am I wrong?
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Yeah. In fact, you're better off not upgrading hboot for non Sense JB.
BenPope said:
Yeah. In fact, you're better off not upgrading hboot for non Sense JB.
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Hmm, why is it better not to upgrade your hboot? (just curious)
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Yeah. In fact, you're better off not upgrading hboot for non Sense JB.
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Thanks! My night has just changed.
Would it be too much asking for the best CM10 rom link? I know they're there, but they're a bunch and I'm not really sure which I should flash.
Actually, I think I may flash this one: youtube. com/watch?v=elDvcVot7qo
Good enough?
Thanks again (Incredibly quick answer btw, I'm impressed)
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Hmm, why is it better not to upgrade your hboot? (just curious)
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Depending on which version you can go to, you might have problems. 1.33 and 1.36 should be ok, but with earlier versions you might find bugs.
Also, if you update it, for non Sense ROMs, you'll need a non standard boot.img, and at the moment, most of them don't work with GPS.
7ind said:
Thanks! My night has just changed.
Would it be too much asking for the best CM10 rom link? I know they're there, but they're a bunch and I'm not really sure which I should flash.
Actually, I think I may flash this one: youtube. com/watch?v=elDvcVot7qo
Good enough?
Thanks again (Incredibly quick answer btw, I'm impressed)
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i would personally go for the official CM10(4.1.2) nightlies at cyanogenmod.com because i don't mind flashing a daily new update(doesn't require wipe data). I had defy with CM10 and as fast as I noticed any bug it was fixed in the next day's release. But I don't recommend this if you are looking for a permanent rom.
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Depending on which version you can go to, you might have problems. 1.33 and 1.36 should be ok, but with earlier versions you might find bugs.
Also, if you update it, for non Sense ROMs, you'll need a non standard boot.img, and at the moment, most of them don't work with GPS.
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I would like to add that the chance of finding a security hole in newer hboots is smaller , and I bet that no one would want to miss applying an S-OFF exploit.
Vcek said:
i would personally go for the official CM10(4.1.2) nightlies at cyanogenmod because i don't mind flashing a daily new update(doesn't require wipe data). I had defy with CM10 and as fast as I noticed any bug it was fixed in the next day's release. But I don't recommend this if you are looking for a permanent rom.
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I would like to add that the chance of finding a security hole in newer hboots is smaller , and I bet that no one would want to miss applying an S-OFF exploit.
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Does GPS work on these nighties?
I just flashed the one that I mentioned and I've already gotten 3 reboots. Definitely not keeping it.
Gps should work if you didn't update the hboot.
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Vcek said:
Gps should work if you didn't update the hboot.
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I ****ed it up.
I was getting reboot after reboot so I tried restoring my stock rom from de clockwork mode. Now all I get is the HTC One X boot logo.
I forgot to move the stock boot.img from my phone to the pc and now I don't know how to push it from the phone to the pc without system.
Any ideas?
edit: alright, I really need some help right now. I'm freaking out. All I need is to send the stock boot.img I have on my backup to my pc so i can flash it via fastboot usb.
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I forgot to move the stock boot.img from my phone to the pc and now I don't know how to push it from the phone to the pc without system.
Any ideas?
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Mount the storage as USB from CWM.
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Mount the storage as USB from CWM.
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"E: Unable to open ums lunfile (No such file or di...)"
It's getting scary. I don't want my phone to die.
btw, I hit "mount usb storage", I guess that's what you told to me, right?
I think the problem may be usb debugging. Idk if i have it enabled.
edit: I pulled it of, flash the buggy cm10 rom again, put the other rom files in the SD car and enabled usb debugging. It's charging now, I'll flash this new rom later, maybe at 40%.

[Q] Trouble achieving S-Off

Howdy! Lemme preface all of this by saying that I'm less than a noob here....really inexperienced. Here's the background......
I rooted my DInc and I can't even remember which unrevoked tool I used. I was just reading along and punching commands and when the process was done I was rooted. I installed CWM successfully and flashed to CM7.2 which I've been running for quite some time. Lately I got an itch to try a JB ROM like infected, so when I looked into it, it clearly says I need S-off to accomplish that flash so I checked and realized I was S-on still.
At this point, I added the unrevoked-forever.zip to my sdcard root and tried to flash that ZIP by way CWM and i get these error messages:
E: unsupported radio version
E: update failed. Check/sdcard/soff.log
E: error in /sdcard/unrevoked-forever.zip (Status 42)
I am running Android version 2.3.7 and radio baseband version 2.15.10.12.20
Is this one of those things that I shouldn't be trying from CM7.2 and I should've dealt with before my initial flash to CM7.2?? Basically I'm totally freakin lost and in WAAAAY over my element, so any guidance would be duly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Scott
Just going to leave this right here...
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Read the page, tell me what your issue is, and we'll go from there.
PonsAsinorem said:
Just going to leave this right here...
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Read the page, tell me what your issue is, and we'll go from there.
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Sorry....i guess it pays to be extra thorough in the description of the problem. The link you left me is the one that I followed. I researched achieving S-Off on the DInc first and found this same page in my research. I followed the process and all went smooth right up until i started to flash the unrevoked-forever.zip from my sdcard via CWM. The aforementioned error messages came up on my phone and it said the process failed.
I thought it might be because the radio baseband versions that are list as "supported" do not match mine
smvogel73 said:
I thought it might be because the radio baseband versions that are list as "supported" do not match mine
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Sounds good to me. With the way HTC handles S-OFF, you don't really need it. I'd go the legit way and unlock your bootloader with HTCdev.
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Edit: and for the record, you're lucky you didn't brick your device. Reading the supported requirements and ignoring them is a good way to do it.
PonsAsinorem said:
Sounds good to me. With the way HTC handles S-OFF, you don't really need it. I'd go the legit way and unlock your bootloader with HTCdev.
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Edit: and for the record, you're lucky you didn't brick your device. Reading the supported requirements and ignoring them is a good way to do it.
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Yes thx....I'm gathering that! So this is where terminology gets so dang confusing for me. I didn't think unlocking my bootloader meant the same thing as achieving S-Off?? I already thought my bootloader was unlcoked, as I was able to flash CM7.2, which I didnt think I would be able to do if I had a locked bootloader. So wicked confused!!! And try as I miught to educate myself in these forums, I haven't located a sticky or guide that really thoroughly explains all the vernacular regarding android dev/modding/rooting/flashing/etc
So this other method will work with any radio baseband version then?? Or is it important to check compatibility there too??
What's the very top of your HBOOT say, UNLOCKED? Some more reading:
S-Off vs Unlocked, and flashing firmware
About Unlock and S-ON
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What's the very top of your HBOOT say, UNLOCKED? Some more reading:
S-Off vs Unlocked, and flashing firmware
About Unlock and S-ON
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It says "UNLOCKED" and below that it says "S-ON
Thank u for the materials too!
So after looking at those two links, it sure seems like not only is S-Off a potentially dangerous thing to do, it might also not even be necessary on the long-run. I say that carefully tho, as u just got thru telling me that flashing a new ROM against spec is a very dangerous thing to do and could potentially brick mu phone.
The ROM I'm looking to flash is Infection JB 4.2.2. The instructions say that if you're coming from. A non-AOSP ROM and are S-On that you've gotta extract boot.img and fastboot it after the ROM flash......whatever the heck that means???
smvogel73 said:
So after looking at those two links, it sure seems like not only is S-Off a potentially dangerous thing to do, it might also not even be necessary on the long-run.???
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Correct. Staying S-ON minimizes the danger. It locks your radio, and HBOOT, which are the main dangers.
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I say that carefully tho, as u just got thru telling me that flashing a new ROM against spec is a very dangerous thing to do and could potentially brick mu phone.???
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Not really ROM flashing, but radio and HBOOT flashing, which is what unrevoked-forever tweaks.
I'd try to flash it one more time. When you do, what, if anything, are you wiping? You should be doing a factory reset, system, and boot wipe/format, then flash the ROM.
If that doesn't work (it might not, it's been awhile since I've worked with S-ON devices), then we'll move on to S-OFF (if you want).
Oh no.....I didn't even attempt to flash the Infection JB ROM specifically because I was not able to achieve S-Off. Whether it was intended or not, yea.....u sufficiently scared me about bricking the phone if I'm not to spec per the developer.
Are u saying I should wipe and then try to flash this ROM despite still being S-On?
Up to you. Personally, if it were me, I would try flashing the ROM with S-ON. The inc is a very friendly device, as long as you don't try to break the HBOOT and/or radios. It is next to impossible to break those with S-ON.
If you want to go S-OFF instead, grab the latest supported radio from http://dinc.does-it.net/ and then do the unrevoked-forever.
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Up to you. Personally, if it were me, I would try flashing the ROM with S-ON. The inc is a very friendly device, as long as you don't try to break the HBOOT and/or radios. It is next to impossible to break those with S-ON.
If you want to go S-OFF instead, grab the latest supported radio from http://dinc.does-it.net/ and then do the unrevoked-forever.
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Well there you have it....I will trust your wisdom (as it is far supperior to my own) and I shall flash this ROM tonight!! I already have a nandroid backup of CM7.2 that Im running, as well as a Titanium backup of all my user apps/files.
Sincerest thanks for all your help!!
Hello. Im no expert but i think Cyanogenmod is aosp so you should be good.
I was where you were 2 yrs ago when I rooted my 1st phone: a friends froyo Dinc (ahhh...froyo). A few months ago I aquired my own and went to research how to root GB and everything has changed and is now vastly more complicated. Also I think every phone has a locked bootloader but not encrypted and I think Soff is extra security since I've only encountered it on htc phones. Anyway I've managed to get my inc to Soff but its still locked, idk how lol
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