I like using stackexchange, and today I just noticed this on forums.motorola.com, the best answer.
I feel like those conversations thread types make less cruft to scroll through when the "best answer" [if there is one] is right under the OP.
I see it being a useful feature for Q&A sub-forums, maybe not as much for Development threads. So maybe a checkbox, like "is this a question?": "Looking for a 'best answer'?"
HTTPS support on xda-developers?
Hi,
I'm thinking if HTTPS will be supported here It will be awesome if this feature is included as an option for users
thanks!
bhundven said:
I like using stackexchange, and today I just noticed this on forums.motorola.com, the best answer.
I feel like those conversations thread types make less cruft to scroll through when the "best answer" [if there is one] is right under the OP.
I see it being a useful feature for Q&A sub-forums, maybe not as much for Development threads. So maybe a checkbox, like "is this a question?": "Looking for a 'best answer'?"
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Ya thats a good idea, more like quora or polls
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I think each ROM should have its own section not just a thread. I find searching through 1000+ posts for one bit of info very hard work, and I bet others do as well. Search is good but unless you know the exact wording its not always the best option.
With each ROM having its own section each question will be in its own thread, making finding the answers to repeated questions much easier.
What say the masses ?
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interesting idea...but think not possible or..?
You know requesting new sections every day would be pain in the arse for moderators?
It's good as it is now.
When you have one sub-forum for each rom then you have a loooooooong list ... and thats not better then so
Questions shouldnt be in dev section - so there are only dev threads -> done
Question about an spezific rom can be posted in the rom thread.
I think this can be achieved through "Related Threads" (With some modification). So that once u open a thread from one developer all this threads in the same section apear at the bottom.
Just a wild idea
Maybe the mods can make the most useful/best roms sticky...
agree! very hard and sometimes slow to search through 10,000 posts .. it 's often a nightmare to follow the thread
yeahman45 said:
agree! very hard and sometimes slow to search through 10,000 posts .. it 's often a nightmare to follow the thread
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search button ftw?
howdid said:
search button ftw?
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even with search button.. e.g. you search for an issue on battery.. you see someone who asked the question... then i must scroll down(or move next page) to search if someone actually replied and gave a solution to the issue (assuming a there's a reply or solution to the question)... in between you have tons of other unrelated questions/replies/opinions/thanks etc... lol i think you know what i mean
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What say the masses ?
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The masses say no. We like asking the same questions all over again, or even better opening the new threads for every query we have.
Your idea is good but what you propose can't be done. It can't be avoided as it would be a forum utopia sort off. Google is more powerful than forum search. Good info doesn't necessarily have to come from XDA.
And for starters this thread is in totally wrong section.
How about a section for roms with sense and a section for roms without sense? or maybe section for ports from other devices and a section for "almost" stock roms. Mabye 2 - 4 subcategories would be a good idea. Another good idea would be that the cooks would use a specific format for the thread names like "Update/Date - Rom name - Version - Cook".
just my two cents in some bad english ^^
Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums and Read THIS
Moving to Q&A
[Q] "Request new forum rules" sticky or "Request new forum" forum?
Reading through all forum request posts and threads throughout this "About xda-developers.com" forum and "(requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins" thread I wondered whether it's time to create:
a sticky with "Request new forum rules" (ie. a sticky that explains what needs to be achieved before a new forum request is honored, like amount of requestees, anount custom ROMs built, first hacks, rooting, modding, etc. done)
a "Request new forum" forum, so admins and ops can easily spot new forum requests without having to cleanout and check existing Q&A forums like this one...
Regards,
Nika.
Especially Android is a very fast-growing OS with new great devices nearly every week and many not-so-mainstream phones and tablets besides HTC and Samsung and the rest that really should get some attention.
But I would never be completely satisfied with a product w/o root or Custom ROMs simply because I know that the manufacturer won't support it as long as the community would or I can't use essential stuff like Backups.
However I'm not quite talented with all the hacking and development stuff, so xda is my prime source for that.
After a little bit more than 3 years passive reading I had a first request but found quite a mess.
It seems like nobody knows where to request new forums and even the Mods say different things where to post. The only thing they say in common is that these posts are in the wrong section and are therefore being ignored.
In short words: a central, easy to find (been trying to find the 'right section' for quite some time) place for these kind of requests would be great! Thanks for your efforts
btw: I don't mean to criticise the Mods/Admins or the forum itself. I just want to share what I experienced as a not so noobish and not so active user
The new thread is here:
[Requests] Ask for new forums here
It is possible to add a "thread wiki" post below the original post?
Eg in slickdeals, you have a common wiki below the OP that people can add stuff
I feel like threads should have things like that...
OP might not have time to update his/her post with relevant info that an another user can add
It might be difficult trying to look through 100 pages of posts to figure out if someone has a similar problem(or through search), while it is easy for multiple people to maintain a common wiki that they can all edit
EG: http://slickdeals.net/f/4803408-Thi...ted-by-users-like-you?p=51265310#edit51265310
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It is possible to add a "thread wiki" post below the original post?
Eg in slickdeals, you have a common wiki below the OP that people can add stuff
I feel like threads should have things like that...
OP might not have time to update his/her post with relevant info that an another user can add
It might be difficult trying to look through 100 pages of posts to figure out if someone has a similar problem(or through search), while it is easy for multiple people to maintain a common wiki that they can all edit
EG: http://slickdeals.net/f/4803408-Thi...ted-by-users-like-you?p=51265310#edit51265310
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Interesting idea, not sure how adaptable it would be with the VBulletin software though. It might also be similar in effect to something I hear is going to be rolled out sometime soon, a post rating system so posts with more positive ratings will move to the top, and posts with enough negative ratings will be hidden.
I think though that the OP should either ask the mods to close the thread or hand it over to another user by contacting the forum admin if they don't have time to maintain their thread with important new information.
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Interesting idea, not sure how adaptable it would be with the VBulletin software though. It might also be similar in effect to something I hear is going to be rolled out sometime soon, a post rating system so posts with more positive ratings will move to the top, and posts with enough negative ratings will be hidden.
I think though that the OP should either ask the mods to close the thread or hand it over to another user by contacting the forum admin if they don't have time to maintain their thread with important new information.
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I mean small details: like "most commonly encountered problems and solutions", that the OP might have time to add or not
For a dev thread, I rather have the dev (most likely the OP) focus on developing and other people helping out in figuring out problems by common users... users can update the wiki on the un-resolved problems so that the dev can see, without having the dev to read the last 3 pages that were newly posted
you can see in the Slickdeals thread... 179 pages of posts... some of them are "useless" in saying "thanks for the deal", while some people have legitimate questions (like "is this phone quad band") that other users answered 10 pages after their post... having a wiki means common info will be presented clearly without having to dig through the thread, and anyone can update that, not just the OP <--- most important point
EDIT: Slickdeals uses vBulletin too, but customized plugins... there are probably open source plugins out there, just trying to dig through
EDIT2: i guess SD doesn't use pure vBulletin plugins for that... maybe some CMS system
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I mean small details: like "most commonly encountered problems and solutions", that the OP might have time to add or not
For a dev thread, I rather have the dev (most likely the OP) focus on developing and other people helping out in figuring out problems by common users... users can update the wiki on the un-resolved problems so that the dev can see, without having the dev to read the last 3 pages that were newly posted
you can see in the Slickdeals thread... 179 pages of posts... some of them are "useless" in saying "thanks for the deal", while some people have legitimate questions (like "is this phone quad band") that other users answered 10 pages after their post... having a wiki means common info will be presented clearly without having to dig through the thread, and anyone can update that, not just the OP <--- most important point
EDIT: Slickdeals uses vBulletin too, but customized plugins... there are probably open source plugins out there, just trying to dig through
EDIT2: i guess SD doesn't use pure vBulletin plugins for that... maybe some CMS system
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I guess the problem really is that the dev thread should not be used for support, but people insist on treating them that way. I think that there should be a "ROM XXXXX Support Thread" in the device Q&A forums and that is where such questions should go instead. Then there would be no problems with the restrictions since user support questions or bug reports without proper logging, details, attempted fixes, etc. would be moved from the dev thread into the support thread if they were able to post them there.
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I guess the problem really is that the dev thread should not be used for support, but people insist on treating them that way. I think that there should be a "ROM XXXXX Support Thread" in the device Q&A forums and that is where such questions should go instead. Then there would be no problems with the restrictions since user support questions or bug reports without proper logging, details, attempted fixes, etc. would be moved from the dev thread into the support thread if they were able to post them there.
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even in support threads... who would maintain the massive throve of info that many people would ask? the OP(most likely the dev himself who made the thread), or every user who wants to?
example.... if a lot of people post below us, makes it go into 5 pages... someone on page 3 found a plugin that does what it works.... does it make sense for that info to be posted just below my first post by anyone, or is it on me(the OP) to edit my first post "someone on page 3 found this info"?
This is actually an interesting idea. We are busy adding other new features but definitely will keep this in mind. Right now, we do already have a wiki and there is nothing stopping someone from creating a wiki page while adding their thread, and linking to it, but it would be nice to integrate that directly into the page.
bitpushr said:
This is actually an interesting idea. We are busy adding other new features but definitely will keep this in mind. Right now, we do already have a wiki and there is nothing stopping someone from creating a wiki page while adding their thread, and linking to it, but it would be nice to integrate that directly into the page.
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yeah, but it's definitely not as seamless as having it right below the original post
lemme see if there are any plugins to "stream" that wiki page into a post...
Came here to request this too. And precisely for the same reasons as the OP.
This would be immediately embraced.
I don't understand the "I'm not sure this would be adaptable with vBulletin" comment since slickdeals uses vBulletin.
http://www.qapla.com/mods/showthread.php/309-Wiki-Posts-for-VB4-by-BOP5-BETA
another vote for this.
i have been following a thread about about the development of 4.4 for the hisense sero 7 pro (randomblame, davepmer and others are awesome)
anyway it has a post count of nearly 1,000 and people come in and try the latest build, or just wanting to ask a question about the latest builds. the same questions get asked over and over. i don't really think its the fault of the person asking since who is going to read 1,000 posts just to see if his/her problem has been discussed.
I've noticed that whenever someone asks, "What ROM should I use?" the responses are either brusque (e.g. "Just install whatever and find what you like,") or unverifiable ("I've had okay luck with XYZ").
When I choose a ROM, the first thing I care about are the bugs. And yet, there is no single thread in the development forum that has a list of all the current ROMs, and a list of bugs. Some developers are very good with updating the first page of their thread, clearly listing the bugs, and yet for other ROMs, you have to dig until you get to post 1579 on page 157 to find that such-and-such functionality doesn't work.
Why doesn't anybody do this? Why isn't there a sticky at the top of the development forum that clearly lists the major ROMs in development, and keeps track of the main bugs? This makes selecting a ROM much, much easier.
Why don't you do it?
TSGM said:
I've noticed that whenever someone asks, "What ROM should I use?" the responses are either brusque (e.g. "Just install whatever and find what you like,") or unverifiable ("I've had okay luck with XYZ").
When I choose a ROM, the first thing I care about are the bugs. And yet, there is no single thread in the development forum that has a list of all the current ROMs, and a list of bugs. Some developers are very good with updating the first page of their thread, clearly listing the bugs, and yet for other ROMs, you have to dig until you get to post 1579 on page 157 to find that such-and-such functionality doesn't work.
Why doesn't anybody do this? Why isn't there a sticky at the top of the development forum that clearly lists the major ROMs in development, and keeps track of the main bugs? This makes selecting a ROM much, much easier.
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go ahead, ill definitely link it to those "which roms" threads.
um... you mean something like these?
Stickied in the GSM sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896
Stickied in CDMA sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399802
it's a really large task to do what you're suggesting... tracking all the features and bugs of every single ROM in development. you'll see that the person who started the CDMA sticky has abandoned the thread and it's now outdated and rather useless. that's pretty much what will happen at some point with any such thread if you want the detail you suggest.
TSGM said:
I've noticed that whenever someone asks, "What ROM should I use?" the responses are either brusque (e.g. "Just install whatever and find what you like,") or unverifiable ("I've had okay luck with XYZ").
When I choose a ROM, the first thing I care about are the bugs. And yet, there is no single thread in the development forum that has a list of all the current ROMs, and a list of bugs. Some developers are very good with updating the first page of their thread, clearly listing the bugs, and yet for other ROMs, you have to dig until you get to post 1579 on page 157 to find that such-and-such functionality doesn't work.
Why doesn't anybody do this? Why isn't there a sticky at the top of the development forum that clearly lists the major ROMs in development, and keeps track of the main bugs? This makes selecting a ROM much, much easier.
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ecs1984 said:
it's a really large task to do what you're suggesting... tracking all the features and bugs of every single ROM in development. you'll see that the person who started the CDMA sticky has abandoned the thread and it's now outdated and rather useless. that's pretty much what will happen at some point with any such thread if you want the detail you suggest.
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I see. Is there a way to make a sort of Wiki-type format where the developer will take the first step, and whenever people find a bug, they can report it?
All I'm saying is that in many ROMs, bugs are buried within the (often) dozens or even hundreds of pages of the thread.
I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody; I'm just asking whether there is a more efficient way to organize the information.
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right way to ask this, but when should we expect this forum to have grouped threads (i.e development and roms in one section, Q&A in another section, etc)? We are starting to build up a pretty good number of custom roms/kernels, and a few of them are getting lost in the pages as other questions and general posts come up.
Thanks Excited to see this community grow so fast so soon.
Hi, for now you can tap the color coded section at the top. IE. Development
I'm not sure of any other changes on the horizon...
dkcats3 said:
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right way to ask this, but when should we expect this forum to have grouped threads (i.e development and roms in one section, Q&A in another section, etc)? We are starting to build up a pretty good number of custom roms/kernels, and a few of them are getting lost in the pages as other questions and general posts come up.
Thanks Excited to see this community grow so fast so soon.
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I agree with us 100%. We need this so bad. Important questions are getting bumped out of view
@Burt Squirtz Are they important questions or dumb questions or posts about stuff that's been asked before but made a whole new post about? Like how many posts do we need stating that 11.2.7.7 is out? Or questions that simply require a quick Google search that will possibly yield a faster answer rather than waiting for someone to on here to post a response?
galaxys said:
Hi, for now you can tap the color coded section at the top. IE. Development
I'm not sure of any other changes on the horizon...
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There's no way to filter by category in the mobile app (that I can find).
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There's no way to filter by category in the mobile app (that I can find).
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Your probably correct, I don't use the mobile app, but check the mobile app thread for verification...