Best cm10 ROM with great battery life - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

I'm running pacrom but battery life is not good.any ROM u guys recommend. With great battery?at least 3hrs screen time
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I've posted this at least ten times in other threads, but hands down, for me, it's Quantum rom by Pwncakes193.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390147
This rom is extremely stable and the developer puts a lot of hard work and time into it. If you try it and like it make sure to say that someone pointed you over there :laugh:
Oh, there's just one thing you can do for even better batter life, disable ROMdB Dev Tool which is a built in app that gives you notifications when a new update is available. For one reason or another, it can have a negative effect on battery life, so it's usually best to disable it and just check the forum for the updates, plus since the updates are up before they're pushed through the OTA updater. And for Google Settings turn off location reporting and location history.

Interesting...

Sorry folks,
ALL best rom threads get shuttered, as they become places for arguments over looks and feelings and although well intended initially, almost always spiral into troll conversation as "best" is a subjective term.
"best" is in the eye of the beholder, and is up to the individual users and their tastes.

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Let's start looking at battery differently?

Hello friends,
As you may or may not notice depending on your frequency here on xda, we have many people with wide results in the battery department, especially with leaks.
The problem is, these reports are simply not consistant. Posting "I lost 6% in 1" min does nothing for anyone. This post is not to make fun or to bash but to awaken potential ways to help each other.
If you are suffering from poor battery, grab this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Its called better battery stats and the dev is nice enough to allow it for free to xda members. One of its primary features in our case is tracking down wake locks and kernel wake locks. Instead of posting "my battery life is horrible" do some investigating. Try to find out why. Help out yourself, or hell, if Samsung or sprint are here, maybe you'll help them too.
Just a thought, but srzly, "battery life sucks" is no gud.
So as the leaks progress, feel free to share experiences. Help users help you with locks because I can assure some of your poor battery is not experienced by everyone. And if it is, then we can all determine why.
If you need help understanding the app or how to use it, and you can't figure it out from the apps in app help section then ask.
I've got to say, coming from the Evo 3D, this phone has way better battery life for me. I'm not one to pay close attention to battery stats, screen on time, etc. because I'm usually near a charger every where and hardly ever let it go below 40%. I completely understand what you're saying about the user reports though. My favorite is when a rom gets released, 1 hr later you get the "How is battery life?!" Hopefully members will take you're advice and start looking more closely at it and give better info
---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
jayharper08 said:
I've got to say, coming from the Evo 3D, this phone has way better battery life for me. I'm not one to pay close attention to battery stats, screen on time, etc. because I'm usually near a charger every where and hardly ever let it go below 40%. I completely understand what you're saying about the user reports though. My favorite is when a rom gets released, 1 hr later you get the "How is battery life?!" Hopefully members will take you're advice and start looking more closely at it and give better info
---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
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Bolded has always been one of those things that made me get a good chuckle.
Good post OP, thanks for the link.
You can also check the "Show CPU Usage" in Developer setting" if you are on an ICS leak and want real time feedback...
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cds0699 said:
Bolded has always been one of those things that made me get a good chuckle.
"My favorite is when a rom gets released, 1 hr later you get the "How is battery life?!"
Good post OP, thanks for the link.
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+1 I would have to agree with that one myself but it also make me wonder what the heck is wrong with people...LOL
Also as stated previously when coming from a HTC device this is like almost having an extended battery but I will make reference in here of battery life in the future... thx
Yeah, I just came from the OG EVO 4G and it's like having an extra battery. I was looking at posts about bad battery life and chuckling to myself.
But I will install that app and track mine, if we/I can improve it then I'm all for it. Be nice if we can get a number of people on board so we have a good pool of stats to work with, might find something.
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I installed BBS but what exactly do I look for? How do I know what's killing my battery? This app just looks like a bunch of numbers and colored lines to me, lol.
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best rom/kernel for battery life?

I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Musik847 said:
I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Try a few....
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
nicholaschum said:
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
running the leaked 4.0.4 with the latest lean kernel and its the best battery life i have seen yet . All radios and bootloader updated as well. Lean kernel settings , hotplugx , 1200-350 , standard voltage that comes with the kernel
No one has made any sort of test or extensive trial of the kernel and rom combinations for best battery life.
For my usage franco.kernel nightly 98 is working perfectly well with Liquid rom, but that might be different for your uses, and it might be different because you like to undervolt, or overclock and undervolt, and you use different programs in the background. etc.. etc.. etc.
If you would like to know the best combo, try them all and do tests. Maybe write it all down and come back. Hopefully nobody would have changed their rom or kernels in the meantime.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
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Nah, it's about time this forum will get clustered with these kinds of posts because more people are buying the phone and think they are so important that they need to make a new thread dedicated to their phone. As said in my sig, I encourage people to use search whenever possible, but I'm not the kind of person to diss another person when they don't use it
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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And this is exactly why this kind of thread is pointless.
X amount of ppl think Franco has good battery.
Someone posts here saying it doesn't.
Who is wrong? No-one.
Its all about the user. Plain and simple. Everyone's habits are different.
I wasn't dissing the guy, my first post said it all "try a few"
You will never know which kernel is the best until you try them yourself.
Half the fun of xda is flashing and trying new ****!
WiredPirate said:
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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Same for me, in addition to other problems when running his kernels
The best combination I have tried so far is BAMF Paradigm ROM and Popcorn kernel. Using the gali something or other governor with just a few changes to it speedup.
Ooookay, I wasn't going to reply to similar thread, but since no one seems to be throwing out suggestions, here's mine from yesterday. There's more in that thread.

[Q] Best ROM ?

Hi i am absolutely new to flashs,mods and so on.
So my question is ... what ROM is probably the best in terms of speed, stability and especially USABILITY for my galaxy nexus GSM ??? and dont really like the stock ones, so maybe someone can suggest a really good custom one ....
pls help me !
kind regards from
3pikur
I prefer AOKP with Glados Kernel.
It has been said before that there is no "best" ROM, every user has different preferences and requirements in a ROM. Try them all.
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It has been said before that there is no "best" ROM, every user has different preferences and requirements in a ROM. Try them all.
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Realistically speaking, it is impossible for one to sit down and try every ROM. Because in order to fully experience the ROM you need to have it installed for a couple of days to conclude.
The best way to find the best 'ROM' is to look at the thread and read it's features. Read the first couple of posts, then start reading posts backwards. Like what you see? then try out the ROM.
Ok thanks Buddys ... i just try it out ... Maybe i find one fitting my imagination.
peace to y'all
Well i have tried a lot also spent some bucks getting things trying to get better and after all that i figured that nothing its better than a stock image rooted in the long way Google fix the glitches and bugs and the system its way more stable and reliable
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zephiK said:
Realistically speaking, it is impossible for one to sit down and try every ROM. Because in order to fully experience the ROM you need to have it installed for a couple of days to conclude.
The best way to find the best 'ROM' is to look at the thread and read it's features. Read the first couple of posts, then start reading posts backwards. Like what you see? then try out the ROM.
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Well its not impossible.. And you're right a few days of having each one installed is necessarily to draw a conclusion. What I meant was try them all that you find appealing. I wouldn't expect anybody to flash one that they didn't like the looks of just to "try them all" lol.
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Ok thanks Buddys ... i just try it out ... Maybe i find one fitting my imagination.
peace to y'all
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I'm sure you will there is plenty to choose from! Happy flashing.
msedek said:
Well i have tried a lot also spent some bucks getting things trying to get better and after all that i figured that nothing its better than a stock image rooted in the long way Google fix the glitches and bugs and the system its way more stable and reliable
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I prefer more customization than stock. I was on stock for months and finally got tired of it recently. I flashed AOKP and have really been enjoying all the extra options like the toggles and the custom batteries and such.
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Well its not impossible.. And you're right a few days of having each one installed is necessarily to draw a conclusion. What I meant was try them all that you find appealing. I wouldn't expect anybody to flash one that they didn't like the looks of just to "try them all" lol.
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Lol who knows. Someone might take the wrong way and actually download every single one of them and try them if they have the time to do so
No best rom. However, you can use this as a reference point: I am using AOKP b29 with Morfic's Trinity Kernel and all is smooth and great battery life.
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Lol who knows. Someone might take the wrong way and actually download every single one of them and try them if they have the time to do so
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I am quite sure there are plenty of people who have time to download and try each one of them...
I usually start by thinking of the specific options and customization that I want. From there just spend time looking at all of the roms available and if they contain what you want. If you can't find anything that way start flashing until you find what you want.
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zephiK said:
Realistically speaking, it is impossible for one to sit down and try every ROM. Because in order to fully experience the ROM you need to have it installed for a couple of days to conclude.
The best way to find the best 'ROM' is to look at the thread and read it's features. Read the first couple of posts, then start reading posts backwards. Like what you see? then try out the ROM.
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I flash every ROM that gets posted. I then record battery life and usability.
Impossible?
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SocialReject said:
I flash every ROM that gets posted. I then record battery life and usability.
Impossible?
Sent from the future.
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Not everyone has the leisure to do that because there are so many ROMs and kernel combinations. The chances of testing EVERY single little thing with the same variables such as reception, apps, background data, usage (heavy, moderate, minimum usage), these are just many of the variables that affect battery life.
By the time you complete that task, something newer will be out. It's like asking, "what's the best phone?" are we going to buy every single phone and try it? No.. we're going to look at user feedback and draw our own personal conclusions on which is the best for us because there is no best phone/ROM/kernel... the best one is the one that fits our personality.
No need to be a jerk.
Aopk will do you perfectly from what your saying. Give milestone 4 a flash, stable quick loads of customisable options for you to play with. No Lagg, excellent performance aswell as battery life.
Nothing else springs to mind in terms of stability, other good roms out there and cm9 however it's in builds with no milestone, so less stable.
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Ow yeh and flash Franco kernel milestone 2, brings excellent performance and brilliant battery life. Put em together and bang there you go
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...and cm9 however it's in builds with no milestone, so less stable.
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CM9 is ridiculously stable at the moment; they just have a different definition of "stable". That said, for people who like a plethora of customizations; it's not there yet.
As everybody points out, your choice of ROM is personal, so I'd just start flashing until you find one you love. Find a popular one (AOKP, Gummy, Code name, Tranquilice) and flash it. If you're in love, stick with it, if something bugs you, find another ROM that doesn't have that.
The nice part about Nandroid backups is that there is little risk of flashing something new, and you'll likely know within a few hours whether a given ROM is right for you, and can revert back easily.
For me, once I installed Gummy (Lean kernel), nothing else lasted more than a few hours on my phone. I may flash something else every so often, but I keep coming back. That's ROM love.
mudferret said:
CM9 is ridiculously stable at the moment; they just have a different definition of "stable". That said, for people who like a plethora of customizations; it's not there yet.
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That's true, I used it and it was very stable. Didn't use it for a long period though and as they are in nightlies still though they wouldn't be as stable. As you say though customisation wise its not there yet
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Battery life!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10m8gZKop9IPFhIsdMwjRxyXlpetCVwaemhNh27q8Pu8/viewform
just an example. 5 minutes in google docs. That will help me and other users. Is that really hard to make and attach to big main thread?
Stock is always best. I personally think the extra features in custom roms are worth the slightly less battery life.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
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Wow... Unless something is lost in translation, it sounds like you really aren't interested in what XDA-Developers is all about. While there are numerous knowledgeable folks here who will happily help others and answer questions, it's not a place to drop in and have people serve up just what you want to know on demand. If the answer to your question were truly a "cut and dried" affair, then you'd likely see some information in the Wiki listing "the best ROM / kernel combination for battery life", and all of the conversations and ROM / kernel experiments and tweaks relating to that topic would be moot. But that's simply not the case. "Best" will differ across users and configurations, depending on usage patterns, installed apps, strength of 3G / 4G / Wi-Fi signals throughout the user's day, etc. Whether or not you, personally, care about the feature sets that custom ROMs offer, most of the folks here do, in fact, care -- and that's why many of us are here. That's why the developers put in countless hours researching, developing, testing and tweaking their ROMs, kernels and utilities.
Finding "the best" will be a different search for each user, based on unique circumstances and interests. That's why it's so great that there are, in fact, so many choices here. But making the best use of the site requires that you be willing to read the discussions, do some searching, and then perhaps ask questions in various discussion threads that will help you find out what you hope to learn. If you're not willing to do that, and if you dismiss 90% of the development effort here as being pointless, I'd suggest that you probably won't find what you're looking for here.
Battery life is what it is on the Galaxy Nexus. I havent really seen THAT big of a difference with all the ROM/Kernel combos I have tried. Its the phone itself. If you have that big of a problem with it, I suggest getting an extended battery or a new phone.
You're right. You should take your questions to those forums. If you think any policies are going to change just because you complain about them you are clearly not the type of member XDA is intended for.
Jesus dude stay stock and quit wasting everyone's time with useless threads.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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Okay I just wasted my time for reading that....
hmmm..
What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
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Nobody tells you that you must try every ROM.
What's the difference of all the ROMs for Nexus:
- Another "ROM developer"
- Different features
- Different look
- Different experience
- Etc..
If you like to complain about the things then put even your thread to Q&A section!! -_-
I am using my modified STOCK Android ROM and battery life is great so stop complaining and use Android phone with stock Android OS or go to use iPhone with the same firmware which almost everyone iPhone user uses..
And also Battery life doesn't just depend of "Kernel", also many other things affects to battery life.
that was a difficult read. so i didn't
My suggestion go with a ROM that is pretty much stock AOSP, and not AOKP in your case. Stick with a ROM like KALO's that is just basically the AOSP Stock ROM with almost no mods, if you worried about battery life.
I mean we could tell you but we'd have to kill you and that's against the XDA rules.
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go buy a flip phone
First of all "castom" isn't even a word. It's CUSTOM. Second, it's not really a good idea for noobs to take it upon themselves to blast people like you just did. This is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Just because YOU think a ROM is useless doesn't make it so. And seriously, if a MOD thinks a thread needs to be closed, it's closed. Period. Again, just because YOU think it shouldn't be doesn't make it so. Finally, don't expect to be spoon fed here. It's not tolerated well, and "Tell me the best ROM" threads generally aren't either if I remember correctly. The best way to learn is to read read read. There is a wealth of info here. Most people figure out the best ROM for them by reading and testing.
Chill out and start educating yourself on what this forum is all about.
lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MTV6NXJQUHFCMTF1bTZtYjc5MXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
sorry guys. Found that.
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Lola.. this dude is funny.. Blasting people because he don't know to get good battery life instead of learning and trying different things.. Cm10.1 m2 and lean kernel. 3.5 screen on time Is plenty for me. Don't blast devs hard work that they do for free just because your lazy to learn.
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Wow he really went on a rant there. This place is full of great information. I say go buy a flip phone or be ready for some trial and error. Every phone is different, even if it is the same model every phone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. If you can spend a lot of time customizing then you can spend some time figuring out how to get better battery life.
3 to 4 hrs screen time for a phone that's got more CPU and ram than my first computer......not bad
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Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
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Sandman-007 said:
Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
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You're about a month late to the chastising.
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b1337 said:
go buy a flip phone
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Flip phones are pretty nifty these days I hear!
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I have a rooted GNEX with CM 10.1 installed.
My phone gets very hot on the back side when I use the internet. Is there a solution to this? Also the battery life is not as good as it was on ICS.
Thanks.

Whats the best rom for battery life on GS3?

Title says it all. Been struggling with battery life, and haven't been at xda in a whike, so what's the best rom from a battery stand point? Please share your experience.
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The thread which sits two spots right above your; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219
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You are a gentlemen and a scholar, but though I understand that it will never be the same and will be very different, my question is more to find out what roms users have found to give them good battery life. Some roms are more known for mods, others more known for stability, still others for battery life, so It's more of gauging what are the popular roms with users who have found good battery life, so I can test them out in my own uses Does that make sense?
Master Ramy said:
You are a gentlemen and a scholar, but though I understand that it will never be the same and will be very different, my question is more to find out what roms users have found to give them good battery life. Some roms are more known for mods, others more known for stability, still others for battery life, so It's more of gauging what are the popular roms with users who have found good battery life, so I can test them out in my own uses Does that make sense?
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Your last line is your own answer, because there is no two phones alike or two users who use their phone identically. "so I can test them out in my own uses"
So try the ones you want and answer that question for yourself. This exact question you asked has been asked at least 100 times a search would have yielded that answer for you and most treads where locked again because it's a mute point.
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Fair enough, I guess I also was wondering which of them have been the most popular and up to date, because between work and school, I can't have a non-functional device, I don't want to go out testing all the roms, but rather hear a couple recommendations and go with those first.
Anyway, Thats a fair point, So I will have to do a search and see what I can find. If you have any particular roms that you've enjoyed tho, feel free to PM me or post them here. Otherwise, mods feel free to lock this.
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Fair enough, I guess I also was wondering which of them have been the most popular and up to date, because between work and school, I can't have a non-functional device, I don't want to go out testing all the roms, but rather hear a couple recommendations and go with those first.
Anyway, Thats a fair point, So I will have to do a search and see what I can find. If you have any particular roms that you've enjoyed tho, feel free to PM me or post them here. Otherwise, mods feel free to lock this.
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The most popular roms will always be at the top of the listing development just because the threads get the most traffic. TPR The People's Rom is my personal choice it comes with Aroma Installer which gives you plenty of choices in apps and kernels.
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