Let's start looking at battery differently? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Hello friends,
As you may or may not notice depending on your frequency here on xda, we have many people with wide results in the battery department, especially with leaks.
The problem is, these reports are simply not consistant. Posting "I lost 6% in 1" min does nothing for anyone. This post is not to make fun or to bash but to awaken potential ways to help each other.
If you are suffering from poor battery, grab this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Its called better battery stats and the dev is nice enough to allow it for free to xda members. One of its primary features in our case is tracking down wake locks and kernel wake locks. Instead of posting "my battery life is horrible" do some investigating. Try to find out why. Help out yourself, or hell, if Samsung or sprint are here, maybe you'll help them too.
Just a thought, but srzly, "battery life sucks" is no gud.
So as the leaks progress, feel free to share experiences. Help users help you with locks because I can assure some of your poor battery is not experienced by everyone. And if it is, then we can all determine why.
If you need help understanding the app or how to use it, and you can't figure it out from the apps in app help section then ask.

I've got to say, coming from the Evo 3D, this phone has way better battery life for me. I'm not one to pay close attention to battery stats, screen on time, etc. because I'm usually near a charger every where and hardly ever let it go below 40%. I completely understand what you're saying about the user reports though. My favorite is when a rom gets released, 1 hr later you get the "How is battery life?!" Hopefully members will take you're advice and start looking more closely at it and give better info
---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT

jayharper08 said:
I've got to say, coming from the Evo 3D, this phone has way better battery life for me. I'm not one to pay close attention to battery stats, screen on time, etc. because I'm usually near a charger every where and hardly ever let it go below 40%. I completely understand what you're saying about the user reports though. My favorite is when a rom gets released, 1 hr later you get the "How is battery life?!" Hopefully members will take you're advice and start looking more closely at it and give better info
---Jay--- Mobile moddin' from the E4GT
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Bolded has always been one of those things that made me get a good chuckle.
Good post OP, thanks for the link.

You can also check the "Show CPU Usage" in Developer setting" if you are on an ICS leak and want real time feedback...
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cds0699 said:
Bolded has always been one of those things that made me get a good chuckle.
"My favorite is when a rom gets released, 1 hr later you get the "How is battery life?!"
Good post OP, thanks for the link.
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+1 I would have to agree with that one myself but it also make me wonder what the heck is wrong with people...LOL
Also as stated previously when coming from a HTC device this is like almost having an extended battery but I will make reference in here of battery life in the future... thx

Yeah, I just came from the OG EVO 4G and it's like having an extra battery. I was looking at posts about bad battery life and chuckling to myself.
But I will install that app and track mine, if we/I can improve it then I'm all for it. Be nice if we can get a number of people on board so we have a good pool of stats to work with, might find something.
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I installed BBS but what exactly do I look for? How do I know what's killing my battery? This app just looks like a bunch of numbers and colored lines to me, lol.
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best rom/kernel for battery life?

I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Musik847 said:
I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Try a few....
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
nicholaschum said:
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
running the leaked 4.0.4 with the latest lean kernel and its the best battery life i have seen yet . All radios and bootloader updated as well. Lean kernel settings , hotplugx , 1200-350 , standard voltage that comes with the kernel
No one has made any sort of test or extensive trial of the kernel and rom combinations for best battery life.
For my usage franco.kernel nightly 98 is working perfectly well with Liquid rom, but that might be different for your uses, and it might be different because you like to undervolt, or overclock and undervolt, and you use different programs in the background. etc.. etc.. etc.
If you would like to know the best combo, try them all and do tests. Maybe write it all down and come back. Hopefully nobody would have changed their rom or kernels in the meantime.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
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Nah, it's about time this forum will get clustered with these kinds of posts because more people are buying the phone and think they are so important that they need to make a new thread dedicated to their phone. As said in my sig, I encourage people to use search whenever possible, but I'm not the kind of person to diss another person when they don't use it
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
WiredPirate said:
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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And this is exactly why this kind of thread is pointless.
X amount of ppl think Franco has good battery.
Someone posts here saying it doesn't.
Who is wrong? No-one.
Its all about the user. Plain and simple. Everyone's habits are different.
I wasn't dissing the guy, my first post said it all "try a few"
You will never know which kernel is the best until you try them yourself.
Half the fun of xda is flashing and trying new ****!
WiredPirate said:
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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Same for me, in addition to other problems when running his kernels
The best combination I have tried so far is BAMF Paradigm ROM and Popcorn kernel. Using the gali something or other governor with just a few changes to it speedup.
Ooookay, I wasn't going to reply to similar thread, but since no one seems to be throwing out suggestions, here's mine from yesterday. There's more in that thread.

[q] battery life

I looked to find a similar thread but i didnt see one.
I have been reading in different posts where people have mentioned how their battery life has been with combinations of roms and kernels. I would like to know everyones opinion and their results. From my test and observations, i lose around 10% and hour on my galaxy nexus (gsm version). I seem to get around the same amount of battery life if i use jb or a ics rom. I have seen people claiming they lose 5% an hour and even 1% an hour. Also if you would include any apps you use that seem to help with battery life. Thanks.
This is a small sample of battery life threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743724
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736354
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728855
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706602
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694788
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690913
also, this should go in QA.
please use search next time
Most of these threads are closed because no one wants to help. The thread gets closed before it has a chance to get going. Im trying to get a decent thread going where people post what works best for them. That isnt on here that ive seen. I know its a matter of process of elimination but im just curious.
they get abandoned because there are a billion "which rom/kernel get the best battery life' threads.
seriously. try them out.. there is no 'ZOMG THE BEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO EVAR!'
There's a reason why those threads ramble on then get closed. Battery life is extremely subjective.
I have tried them. I know what im doing with kernels and roms as far as testing and flashing. Im just curious what has worked out for other people. I am a flashaholic, i just think it would be interesting to see what other people are using.
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there's a reason why those threads ramble on then get closed. Battery life is extremely subjective.
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i should have named this something different. Im wanting to hear what everybodys using
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i should have named this something different. Im wanting to hear what everybodys using
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you'll hear every combination possible... so what was the point of the thread?
Zepius said:
you'll hear every combination possible... so what was the point of the thread?
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Precisely. Not to mention that a vast majority of the differences are just placebo effect.
zepius said:
you'll hear every combination possible... So what was the point of the thread?
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i know and thats what i want. The point of this thread is for people to post what they are using. Period.
Nevermind. I will create a new thread and reword it. Can this thread be closed?
and it will get closed.
read the response from the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27860169&postcount=4
As has been mentioned before, it's all personal preference. Something others have done in the past, that is welcomed, was testing each ROM/kernel for things like battery life, linpack scores or anything else measurable.
Thread Closed.

Battery life!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10m8gZKop9IPFhIsdMwjRxyXlpetCVwaemhNh27q8Pu8/viewform
just an example. 5 minutes in google docs. That will help me and other users. Is that really hard to make and attach to big main thread?
Stock is always best. I personally think the extra features in custom roms are worth the slightly less battery life.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
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Wow... Unless something is lost in translation, it sounds like you really aren't interested in what XDA-Developers is all about. While there are numerous knowledgeable folks here who will happily help others and answer questions, it's not a place to drop in and have people serve up just what you want to know on demand. If the answer to your question were truly a "cut and dried" affair, then you'd likely see some information in the Wiki listing "the best ROM / kernel combination for battery life", and all of the conversations and ROM / kernel experiments and tweaks relating to that topic would be moot. But that's simply not the case. "Best" will differ across users and configurations, depending on usage patterns, installed apps, strength of 3G / 4G / Wi-Fi signals throughout the user's day, etc. Whether or not you, personally, care about the feature sets that custom ROMs offer, most of the folks here do, in fact, care -- and that's why many of us are here. That's why the developers put in countless hours researching, developing, testing and tweaking their ROMs, kernels and utilities.
Finding "the best" will be a different search for each user, based on unique circumstances and interests. That's why it's so great that there are, in fact, so many choices here. But making the best use of the site requires that you be willing to read the discussions, do some searching, and then perhaps ask questions in various discussion threads that will help you find out what you hope to learn. If you're not willing to do that, and if you dismiss 90% of the development effort here as being pointless, I'd suggest that you probably won't find what you're looking for here.
Battery life is what it is on the Galaxy Nexus. I havent really seen THAT big of a difference with all the ROM/Kernel combos I have tried. Its the phone itself. If you have that big of a problem with it, I suggest getting an extended battery or a new phone.
You're right. You should take your questions to those forums. If you think any policies are going to change just because you complain about them you are clearly not the type of member XDA is intended for.
Jesus dude stay stock and quit wasting everyone's time with useless threads.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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Okay I just wasted my time for reading that....
hmmm..
What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
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Nobody tells you that you must try every ROM.
What's the difference of all the ROMs for Nexus:
- Another "ROM developer"
- Different features
- Different look
- Different experience
- Etc..
If you like to complain about the things then put even your thread to Q&A section!! -_-
I am using my modified STOCK Android ROM and battery life is great so stop complaining and use Android phone with stock Android OS or go to use iPhone with the same firmware which almost everyone iPhone user uses..
And also Battery life doesn't just depend of "Kernel", also many other things affects to battery life.
that was a difficult read. so i didn't
My suggestion go with a ROM that is pretty much stock AOSP, and not AOKP in your case. Stick with a ROM like KALO's that is just basically the AOSP Stock ROM with almost no mods, if you worried about battery life.
I mean we could tell you but we'd have to kill you and that's against the XDA rules.
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go buy a flip phone
First of all "castom" isn't even a word. It's CUSTOM. Second, it's not really a good idea for noobs to take it upon themselves to blast people like you just did. This is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Just because YOU think a ROM is useless doesn't make it so. And seriously, if a MOD thinks a thread needs to be closed, it's closed. Period. Again, just because YOU think it shouldn't be doesn't make it so. Finally, don't expect to be spoon fed here. It's not tolerated well, and "Tell me the best ROM" threads generally aren't either if I remember correctly. The best way to learn is to read read read. There is a wealth of info here. Most people figure out the best ROM for them by reading and testing.
Chill out and start educating yourself on what this forum is all about.
lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MTV6NXJQUHFCMTF1bTZtYjc5MXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
sorry guys. Found that.
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Lola.. this dude is funny.. Blasting people because he don't know to get good battery life instead of learning and trying different things.. Cm10.1 m2 and lean kernel. 3.5 screen on time Is plenty for me. Don't blast devs hard work that they do for free just because your lazy to learn.
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Wow he really went on a rant there. This place is full of great information. I say go buy a flip phone or be ready for some trial and error. Every phone is different, even if it is the same model every phone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. If you can spend a lot of time customizing then you can spend some time figuring out how to get better battery life.
3 to 4 hrs screen time for a phone that's got more CPU and ram than my first computer......not bad
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Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
Sandman-007 said:
Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
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You're about a month late to the chastising.
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b1337 said:
go buy a flip phone
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Flip phones are pretty nifty these days I hear!
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I have a rooted GNEX with CM 10.1 installed.
My phone gets very hot on the back side when I use the internet. Is there a solution to this? Also the battery life is not as good as it was on ICS.
Thanks.

Best cm10 ROM with great battery life

I'm running pacrom but battery life is not good.any ROM u guys recommend. With great battery?at least 3hrs screen time
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I've posted this at least ten times in other threads, but hands down, for me, it's Quantum rom by Pwncakes193.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390147
This rom is extremely stable and the developer puts a lot of hard work and time into it. If you try it and like it make sure to say that someone pointed you over there :laugh:
Oh, there's just one thing you can do for even better batter life, disable ROMdB Dev Tool which is a built in app that gives you notifications when a new update is available. For one reason or another, it can have a negative effect on battery life, so it's usually best to disable it and just check the forum for the updates, plus since the updates are up before they're pushed through the OTA updater. And for Google Settings turn off location reporting and location history.
Interesting...
Sorry folks,
ALL best rom threads get shuttered, as they become places for arguments over looks and feelings and although well intended initially, almost always spiral into troll conversation as "best" is a subjective term.
"best" is in the eye of the beholder, and is up to the individual users and their tastes.

[Q]Rom Summary

Hey guys, i am looking to have a new rom, i know this question was asked like 9999 times a day, but it could be very helpful if someone made a post with a summary of all the roms and their bonuses regarding other roms, that way people can join in and just look it up, pick what they need more for themselfs and use it, well ye most of them are the same but some does have better battery life, others better smooth and such. also a combination of rom+kernel info could help alot, most of the people dont even know what is our there and still using stock or some old stuff.
me for example, i was an AOKP since they release their first ROM for the GN, but now it looks like they died or something, so looking for something new and fresh that got a decent battery and smooth
The problem with these sort of topics is that they are too subjective. You really need to try one yourself and see if it suits your needs.
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i know what u mean i was a flashaholic back in the day when i had the time for it, but it cant be subjective if we see 5 people review the same ROM the same way, after all there are results to export to the community
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i know what u mean i was a flashaholic back in the day when i had the time for it, but it cant be subjective if we see 5 people review the same ROM the same way, after all there are results to export to the community
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Well most used is cyanogenmod. So if you arent a flashaholic thats probably the way to go.. But I still agree with the previous person..
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