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If you're lucky enough to have JellyBean on your GNex, check out this app

I was just watching the Google IO Keynote live stream (I know, everyone's ideal way to spend a nice afternoon), and I saw this company that was getting featured by Android called Ekata Systems who launched their app Tapestry at the show. It seems to be a synchronized slideshow between JB devices with some snazzy twists that I've never seen any app do. It works best when you're trying it with a friend/family member so there are at least two devices (phone and/or tablet) to highlight the features though. You can check out the interview here, and the app here.
Talk about bleeding edge...only available on Jelly Bean. It uses this new feature called WiFi Direct that creates a local P2P network between 1:N clients. I'm playing with it with my co-workers and it is pretty sweet.

Is it for sure only for JB? The image in the app info shows a GSII and a Droid RAZR.
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You've got a good eye! Since I have a JB Galaxy Nexus and an N7, I can see the app in Google Play. But my friends who run an older distribution, can't even search for the app in the app store. As far as I know it only runs on JB.

whatisreal7 said:
You've got a good eye! Since I have a JB Galaxy Nexus and an N7, I can see the app in Google Play. But my friends who run an older distribution, can't even search for the app in the app store. As far as I know it only runs on JB.
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ewwwww, you said app store

nonione said:
ewwwww, you said app store
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Thanks that made me laugh!

I tried the app w/ my wife, who has a GNex running JB, and I have a brand spank'n new N7. It was awesome seeing the phone control a slideshow on the bigger screen of the N7, and we were scrolling through her pictures. It is almost like a mobile power point slideshow. There is a nifty feature we discovered, where if you do a swipe gesture on the viewing device, the image downloads directly to the device...which is weird because my N7 was not connected to WiFi at the time. Anyone know how it could've gotten the file without being connected to a WiFi AP? I heard something about WiFi Director but don't know what that is.

I did a quick search, and WiFi Direct is essentially a P2P protocol over WiFi. It doesn't required a live WiFi AP connection, so it works pretty much anywhere. I don't think I've seen any app use WiFi Direct, so thought it was pretty neat.

@llforone said:
I tried the app w/ my wife, who has a GNex running JB, and I have a brand spank'n new N7. It was awesome seeing the phone control a slideshow on the bigger screen of the N7, and we were scrolling through her pictures. It is almost like a mobile power point slideshow. There is a nifty feature we discovered, where if you do a swipe gesture on the viewing device, the image downloads directly to the device...which is weird because my N7 was not connected to WiFi at the time. Anyone know how it could've gotten the file without being connected to a WiFi AP? I heard something about WiFi Director but don't know what that is.
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It's either WiFi direct or NFC

Not to squash innovation but doesnt Instagram already kinda suit the need? I clearly see the differences but I think its splitting hairs in the solution dept. New App, less community, faster death. Unless its truly compelling.

raerae28 said:
Not to squash innovation but doesnt Instagram already kinda suit the need? I clearly see the differences but I think its splitting hairs in the solution dept. New App, less community, faster death. Unless its truly compelling.
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Less community....watching the guy talk about it in his Google IO video...I think that is almost the point. It is not to go wide and online and asynchronous....but closer and more intimate and more synchronous. A completely different approach to the experience of photo sharing.

Wifi direct been available since ICS.

slayr76 said:
Wifi direct been available since ICS.
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But with no settings...
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Dude I was watching All About Android #69 last night, and guess who they did an exclusive feature on? @ ~10:45

That's one of the cool features of galaxy s3, share shot, was wondering when it will be out for all, and here it is.

Is this feature not available on the Nexus S? I tried the app, but it didn't seem to work. It does seem to work on my wife's Galaxy Nexus, but without a second device, it's hard to actually test/enjoy it.

Crittias said:
Is this feature not available on the Nexus S? I tried the app, but it didn't seem to work. It does seem to work on my wife's Galaxy Nexus, but without a second device, it's hard to actually test/enjoy it.
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Yeah, sounds like from the feedback of another member that the Nexus S, although running JB, doesn't support WiFi Direct so it may not work. Pretty sweet when you get it going though. Time to buy a Nexus 7 so you can hook up with your wife's GNex!

My sister-in-law got the JB update on her Sprint GNex phone and is trying out the app and having problems. Anyone else try downloading/using the app and have a Spring GNex w/ JB? Kindly advise if you're having problems using the app.

Crittias said:
Is this feature not available on the Nexus S? I tried the app, but it didn't seem to work. It does seem to work on my wife's Galaxy Nexus, but without a second device, it's hard to actually test/enjoy it.
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Crittias. I just got an auto-update notice a few days ago that Tapestry has updated, and supposed it supports all the way back to Gingerbread. Sharp move, since not everyone is going to have JellyBean devices, so with Gingerbread, 85%+ of Android users can finally use the app. Should come in handy this holiday season when using the app, since nobody else in my entire family has JellyBean. Cromagnons! =)

I want real tablet UI

Is it possible without needing to install a ROM? What I basically want is the ability to have the dockbar move to the bottom of the screen when I rotate it to landscape instead of staying on the short side like it currently does. I want my dockbar always along the bottom edge of the screen no matter what position I'm holding the tablet. Currently no launchers that I know of allow this as an option. Any ideas that don't involve ROMs?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418867
This should do that until a new mods gets released .
You have to be rooted for this mod to work.
Hope that helps.
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I don't think real tablet UI has a dock. And a launcher like apex would give you the option to disable the dock like in larger tablets.

if you want true tablet ui, buy an iPad mini

What exactly do you mean with real tablet UI - the failed UI experiment from google in the past?
The N7 has the current tablet UI.

TDO said:
What exactly do you mean with real tablet UI - the failed UI experiment from google in the past?
The N7 has the current tablet UI.
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The current N7 uses the phablet ui. He means the honeycomb like ui. Whether you consider it failed or not does not matter some (me included) prefer it.
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I prefer that tablet ui too... would love some insight if tablet ui is possible at all in a CarbonRom.

I like the Honeycomb look better as well. My biggest issue is that all of the apps from the play store are downloaded as the phone version, not the tablet version. I bought a tablet to have tablet apps, not phone apps - I don't care that the screen is only 7".

Honeycomb ui works fine for a tablet all operations takes place below the screen. Unlike this new ui were you always have to reach the notification area

Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....

stealthj said:
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
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Also a lot of wasted screen real estate on the N7 between the forced search bar and top & bottom bar.

stealthj said:
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
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You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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RyanTX said:
You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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Email the devs of the apps you buy and state your want to get a tablet version. easy peezy.
Revieww apps on the play store, state your opinion.
When people don't buy apps that devs spent lots of effort on, its discouraging.

stealthj said:
Email the devs of the apps you buy and state your want to get a tablet version. easy peezy.
Revieww apps on the play store, state your opinion.
When people don't buy apps that devs spent lots of effort on, its discouraging.
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It's nothing to do with the devs. It's the way the play store sees the nexus 7. USA today has a tablet version of their app. Directv has a tablet version. On the galaxy tab 8.9 for instance, I could get those. Maybe it's something to do with build.prop?
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RyanTX said:
It's nothing to do with the devs. It's the way the play store sees the nexus 7. USA today has a tablet version of their app. Directv has a tablet version. On the galaxy tab 8.9 for instance, I could get those. Maybe it's something to do with build.prop?
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OOoohhh I see I'm so sorry I misunderstood.
I saw that the USA app though says its for both phones and tablets. the direcTV one though , says not compatible with my device... of course we can always download the APK from somewhere but i think this calls for a petition to google to make sure we are getting the maximum experience on our devices.
the Wallet app I can understand, with the security thing and whatever but this? this is recidulous. and Now that You've mentioned it, I actally had a few apps on my nexus 10 which i cannot install on my nexus 7 (tablet apps)
weird right?

stealthj said:
OOoohhh I see I'm so sorry I misunderstood.
I saw that the USA app though says its for both phones and tablets. the direcTV one though , says not compatible with my device... of course we can always download the APK from somewhere but i think this calls for a petition to google to make sure we are getting the maximum experience on our devices.
the Wallet app I can understand, with the security thing and whatever but this? this is recidulous. and Now that You've mentioned it, I actally had a few apps on my nexus 10 which i cannot install on my nexus 7 (tablet apps)
weird right?
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Do you think we can edit the build prop or something to fool the play store into thinking we are using a nexus 10?
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tomarsenal said:
I don't think real tablet UI has a dock. And a launcher like apex would give you the option to disable the dock like in larger tablets.
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He's not talking about the launcher tablet ui. He's talking about the honeycomb style combines bar.
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RyanTX said:
You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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You DO get tablet apps if you want. Changes in DPI determine app layout. PA lets you choose DPI on an app to app basis without trashing your market. Meaning modifications to build.prop are broad and make your market think you are a tablet which for some apps is bad, so they don't do that.

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You DO get tablet apps if you want. Changes in DPI determine app layout.
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In most cases yes. However (for whatever reason) some companies/developers choose to publish two separate apps to the Play Store - one for phones and one for tablets, and unless your device is identified as a tablet the tablet version of the app is marked as incompatible (and the phone version doesn't include the tablet layout so it isn't available by dpi/layout changes).
Again, however, this is something that the app devs should be sorting - provide one apk that contains all layouts and the problem is solved (because then you can use PA or whatever to use whichever layout you like).

RyanTX said:
Do you think we can edit the build prop or something to fool the play store into thinking we are using a nexus 10?
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I think there was a patched playstore apk that removes country/device restrictrions.... I don't remember if it needed Xposed or not.... I forgetbut im pretty sure i used it before on one of my old phones

[Q] Parental Control

So I want to buy my 9 year old son a Nexus 7 after seeing how he uses my computer for his project research, school math challenges, etc. I also see the value of buying him appropriate books on Amazon as he has a requirement to read at least 20 minutes a day. Furthermore I also noticed how he takes our mobile devices, takes photos and experiments with various filters (to a point the mother uses one of his creation as her profile picture). That is the innocent and good side of things ....
I however cannot see any build in parental control functionality in Android that will assist me in keeping it as clean as possible in terms of content visibility on the Play Store, Internet browsing and managing time.
What are my options? I am willing to pay extra if needed if there is something a parent has used successfully.

I think you can create for him a limited profile, but being that I'm not sure, my youngest is 17
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z0phi3l said:
I think you can create for him a limited profile, but being that I'm not sure, my youngest is 17
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I cannot seem to find anything in that regard - this is very sad. I was hoping I can give him a Android based device but there seem to be no parental control function on Android (never mind anything build in). I keep on snooping around ...

One of the problems I also cannot seem to find anything is because I am using CM11 on my Samsung S3 which does not have the multi-user functionality (not to be confused with profiles).
http://asia.cnet.com/how-to-set-up-parental-controls-for-android-62222756.htm basically sums it up. So in other words I have to stay stock with 4.3 > otherwise I loose out.

There are Users or Profiles or something like that in Kit Kat. I don't have my tablet with me so I can't direct you how to do it. But yes you can make one for "Son's Name" and he can only access specific apps.

Cares said:
There are Users or Profiles or something like that in Kit Kat. I don't have my tablet with me so I can't direct you how to do it. But yes you can make one for "Son's Name" and he can only access specific apps.
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If I buy the Nexus 7 will I be able to upgrade to a official build of 4.4 or do I have to grab a custom ROM?

1-0-1 said:
If I buy the Nexus 7 will I be able to upgrade to a official build of 4.4 or do I have to grab a custom ROM?
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Should be no problem getting the OTA at this point.

Combined Nav/StatusBar from old Tablet UI on Nexus 7?

Hello everyone
I have found the layout of the tablet to be irritating in some ways at times. I really would love it if there was some way to get the older combined navigation and status bar at the. bottom of the screen with the nav bar over towards the left side and the clock and whatnot on the right side. I'm sure you all are aware of this layout by now or have at least seen it before.
example like this:
for http://tablet-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/GTab2.jpg
So I'm curious. instead of having a layout that simply looks like a big phone, can one get that older combined style on the Nexus 7 (2013) while still keeping its normal functionality like the quick settings tiles etc.
thanks.
sorry I'm passing out writing this so hope its all makes sense...
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This layout was removed in KitKat so it is only possible in JellyBean roms...

I heard that. I know a bunch of people were complaining when it was revealed that that was what Google decided to for the kit kat release. As I saw in a post from a while back on android authority among other sites.
So that being said, and apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way, it would seem there is some type of mod or xposed module or something that brings back this functionality. Maybe even a mod that was done on another device/kitkat ROM that could possibly be ported to the Nexus. Etc.
No such thing at this point?
I suppose I could always get a JellyBean ROM. I wonder what I should expect to lose by downgrading. I'll have to read up on the KitKat features not included in JellyBean and make a decision if it comes to that and there really is no mods.
Its a hard thing to search for, as I don't know how to refer to this UI. Apparently there is no name that differentiates the UI from the new KitKat UI, which is why I made this post.
Thanks Dexxon.
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deal breaker: no multi-window

I use multi-window a lot on my Note 3.
I thought it was an Android feature.
Apparently it's a proprietary software not an Android feature.

Ok. So what's the point? Omni will come for the find 7a and support multi windowww
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The point is to generate a healthy discussion.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're is a way to get multi-window on the find 7.
I looked up omniRom. It looks like but it'll require rooting. I don't like rooting.
I'm not trying to be contrarian.
I was literally about order the Find 7 (not 7a) but then realized I have to sacrifice multi-window.
I'm using MW right now. Reading chats in what's app & writing this.

You couldn't have read too much because you cannot order the 7 yet. They haven't even announced when you might be able to put in your pre order. The outfit making the screens has just gone into production which implies the wait will be at the least several more weeks and more likely later. They answered an email asking with an early June estimate.
As to being a deal breaker that's in your court. I won't own a phone without root myself, that is one of my deal breakers. We each make our choices...

No one asked you if it a deal breaker to you.
It's a deal breaker to people who require a multi-window feature.
Clearly we have identified oppo fanboys.
Pre-production fanboys at that lol.

I never said I was going to buy the phone and haven't made up my own mind. I find it a little disconcerting that the app storage is quite low and surprisingly it cannot be easily reformatted as I expected. Or at least previous offerings and the 7A cannot be easily repartitioned. I also am a bit surprised that they are not shipping on 4.4X since a pilot version of it would have been available to them quite a while ago. Considering the fact that they have just finished their latest skin for 4.3 you have to figure it may be a while before you see 4.4X on this phone.
As to your response I don't need to ask permission on a public forum to speak my mind and I don't care what you did or did not ask. My response was directly to the point, you have made your choice and its as valid as mine. It is as you say a deal breaker for you but you are the only person you speak for, others can speak for themselves. I also you use multi window which I will simply add if I decide to buy in here. Many will do the same meaning its not a deal breaker for them either. Course some don't use it and don't care. We all make our choices. Think before you type.

Have you tried "Multi Window - Multi Browsing" in the play store. I understand it is a partial solution only.
I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, nice (never used S-Pen ever except to try it) but wanted 4.4 so bought an Sony Xperia Ultra GPE (Now that could use multi-window). Went to a new HTC One M8 (a phone again).
I will pick up an Oppo Find 7 (not 7a) when available. Specs look great (and obviously I'm a gadget geek).
So I would say try the "Multi Window - Multi Browsing" app on the Note 3, just to kick the tires.

Thanks Rudolph.

Are you guys familiar with xposed framework? http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/xposed-modules/app-xmultiwindow-beta-1-0-2-omnis-t2641967
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Thanks j_Dutch
Hopefully it'll work well.

J_Dutch said:
Are you guys familiar with xposed framework? http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/xposed-modules/app-xmultiwindow-beta-1-0-2-omnis-t2641967
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I will definitely install exposed, and that's a great solution. (Doh). The issue with exposed is that it requires root. It is a good reason alone to root (but there are other good reasons as well).

Rudolpht said:
I will definitely install exposed, and that's a great solution. (Doh). The issue with exposed is that it requires root. It is a good reason alone to root (but there are other good reasons as well).
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People can correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are rooted the ability to deny apps root requests isn't that a security plus.
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I've got multi window running with xposed on my moto g. The screen size can't make the most of it but you can change the window sizes, swap them about etc
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Use omni. Has multi window built in.

MrColdbird said:
Use omni. Has multi window built in.
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Not on all versions, Moto G doesn't have it but you can get that version or another from closed, you choose.....
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MrColdbird said:
Use omni. Has multi window built in.
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Not yet, it's unofficial and not yet merged. I've been including it in the test builds but it won't be in nightlies.
(Why? Try using G+ when the device is in landscape... Or just do a portrait/landscape transition. Those are the two main issues that have prevented merging.)

....makes no sense to make a thread about this...

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There is sense.
I use multi window like hell on my note 3.
I won't even say once or twice a day.
I can say I use it most of the day because I use WhatsApp a lot.
So I continuously have whats app & RSS reader or the browser or youtube open at the same time.
I watch youtube while chatting. I cannot imagine having to leave youtube, go to whats app, write a reply, go back to youtuve, wait for buffering, watch 5 seconds, then go back to whats app, then back to YouTube, buffering. :silly::silly::silly:

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There is sense.
I use multi window like hell on my note 3.
I won't even say once or twice a day.
I can say I use it most of the day because I use WhatsApp a lot.
So I continuously have whats app & RSS reader or the browser or youtube open at the same time.
I watch youtube while chatting. I cannot imagine having to leave youtube, go to whats app, write a reply, go back to youtuve, wait for buffering, watch 5 seconds, then go back to whats app, then back to YouTube, buffering. :silly::silly::silly:
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So, just stick with your note 3 and leave us here playing with our device calmly.
We not really care about daily usage. We just play the device software.
When we getting boring with a rom, we change it to other rom. and that's it.
That is how the flasher live everyday. Never stick to one kind of features. lol :silly: