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Will Ouya Have Android Launcher?

Hi everyone im thinking about buying an ouya but i wanted to know if you can acess the android launcher?
Thanks In advance!

Probably not. But since it's hackable I'm sure it's possible one way or another.
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Ryan Stampton said:
Hi everyone im thinking about buying an ouya but i wanted to know if you can acess the android launcher?
Thanks In advance!
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No they are using a modified version of ics with a completely customised front end as opposed to just a launcher that can be replaced.
However there will be modders who can make it access traditional android launcher and play store but no it won't officially and will only do so unofficially once people have had device to hack it.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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Yes it will
The odk has a launcher with framework. It is available on their website.

didn't they say its fully open source and rooted? im sure someone will bring different launchers to the console, maybe not a day after the release, but im pretty sure that will be possible. Now the question is, most of our launchers are touch-based, i can not imagine how you can use them with a gamepad.

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Chrizzly92 said:
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted? im sure someone will bring different launchers to the console, maybe not a day after the release, but im pretty sure that will be possible. Now the question is, most of our launchers are touch-based, i can not imagine how you can use them with a gamepad.
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Plug in a PS3 or Xbox controller to your Android device and you'll find out Most, if not all, launchers work with a controller. Hitting the navigation pad/stick moves from one icon to the next.

Chrizzly92 said:
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted?
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It's not fully open source.
http://www.ouya.tv/the-o-word/
Please note that we’re still working on releasing the source code for various elements of the ODK — and since some of it is compiled object code, you won’t have access (at least not today) to every single line we’ve written. We want to be sure things are in really great shape before we release code. Also, we will be holding back some sections of the code to preserve the security of OUYA, especially when it comes to payments for developers and gamers.
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It is fully rootable, but it doesn't come rooted.
For hackers: root it. Go ahead. Your warranty is safe. Even the hardware is hackable. Want to get inside? You’ll need a standard screwdriver and nothing more. Go to town. We have standard USB ports and Bluetooth, so you’ll even be able to create your own peripherals.
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So it looks like it will be some heavily modified android UI, like the original kindle fire?

It's not locked down in any way so I'm pretty sure someone will code a custom launcher for it. May not be ADW or NOVA but I am sure someone will make one.

i don't know that, but we can wait for the cm stock rom

Do you think they are ever gonna update it to android 4.1 or 4.2? Or is that just a waste.

Chrizzly92 said:
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted? im sure someone will bring different launchers to the console, maybe not a day after the release, but im pretty sure that will be possible. Now the question is, most of our launchers are touch-based, i can not imagine how you can use them with a gamepad.
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using a keyboard and mouse works well in any launcher so it wouldn't be to hard to work
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dwegiel said:
So it looks like it will be some heavily modified android UI, like the original kindle fire?
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looks like a hybrd of a cross bar system and the old style app menu, looked very nicely done though. is that the one you saw?

I could have sworn that an official from the team said something about stock launchers. The product is supposedly going to be launched with an easily unlocked mechanism for quick and powerful tweaking. This is supposed to be day one. Keep up on their blog, and ask for this on their social channels, my advice. They are definitely involved c:

Could the OUYA launcher be ported to an Android tablet or smartphone?

brakke97 said:
Could the OUYA launcher be ported to an Android tablet or smartphone?
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That's what I'm hoping on O.O it's no fun having all of the games I like to purchase in a tiny little folder. No es fun :c

Love android
I would love to play an android game on my TV console that too in an Android launcher, preferrably JB

I would pay if ADW, Nova or Apex created a OUYA specific launcher...
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If you want the ouya launcher download the SDK from OUYA.tv and install the framework and launcher via regular side load. Proven to work on the nexus 7 and I can vouch for the Nook tablet 16GB from first hand experience. Does not look good on a phone though. In order to run the latest addition you need android 4.1+
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I sideloaded Nova Launcher very easily onto my Ouya. No modification needed. Works great. Little difficult to navigate with the controller, but definitely doable. Can access your Ouya games there and everything. Much more smooth than the Ouya launcher, that's for sure.

[Dev] boot2gecko for the verizon galaxy nexus

First off, let me tell you that this is super sketchy right now. If you were looking for something stable, then leave. This is the exact opposite.
I am working to port mozilla's boot2gecko to the galaxy nexus, so before you ask, here's what works & what dosent:
Works:
Touchscreen
ADB
Wi-Fi
Firefox
Lockscreen
homescreen
...well yeah you get the point, but more importantly, what dosen't/partially works:
Cell service (1x, 3g, and 4g)
screenshot
camera only sometimes works
no softkeys
All resources are designed for hdpi, so everything's a bit small
Downloads:
Build 1 (9/3/12) http://goo.im/devs/jellybellys/toro/boot2gecko/b2g-toro-b1-dont-flash-in-recovery.zip
Build 1 MD5: d8e70323e56b4568f6c2d504d0cceab0
Build 2 (9/3/12) http://goo.im/devs/jellybellys/toro/boot2gecko/b2g-toro-b2-dont-flash-in-recovery.zip
Build 2 MD5: 9a2db2d4d0673b25b8dd01aab8d39e04
To do list:
Implement some sorta softkey thing
Fix cell service
Resize resources to about a 300 dpi
Fix screenshot
Low priority to do list:
Implement android apps and google play store
If you know something about developing android, or html5, pm/reply so you can help contribute.
Oh yeah, don't flash in recovery. Open up the zip and flash the img files in there. Back up your internal memory first because it'll be wiped.

I was just going to start this as I have lots free time at the moment. And was just going to start setting up my "environment" here in the next week. I'll be more then happy to help. I was thinking something in the way of html5 soft keys. At least a back button. I'm more then happy to hop on this band wagon. I need something to do with my time. And I have always wanted to build something custom for my phone.
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Awesome project, excited to try it out!

It's this even usable without softkeys?
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jorgonv said:
It's this even usable without softkeys?
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It's pretty unusable. I noticed the easiest way to get to the homescreen for now is to turn the screen off, then swipe to the left for the camera and it usually hotboots.

Rebooting is about the only way to back out of an app.
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jellybellys said:
It's pretty unusable. I noticed the easiest way to get to the homescreen for now is to turn the screen off, then swipe to the left for the camera and it usually hotboots.
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I think I'll hold off for a little while then, but it's looking good
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Not sure since I've never used this but if you aren't on data or wifi doesn't that basically make the phone useless since everything is a webapp? Or is that wrong?

Made a new build. All that's different is I attempted to implement a home button in the notification drawer, but failed. It doesn't do anything.

dmeadows013 said:
Not sure since I've never used this but if you aren't on data or wifi doesn't that basically make the phone useless since everything is a webapp? Or is that wrong?
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no it still works without wifi or data, it stores them on your phone.

letrain02 said:
no it still works without wifi or data, it stores them on your phone.
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Even things like phone calls?

dmeadows013 said:
Even things like phone calls?
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from what I have read yes. the phone "page"(like the buttons,etc) would be natively stored on your device like am offline webpage. I think there main objective is to make phone entirely run like a Web browser. and just like Web browsers they could read offline Web pages and perform actions.

dmeadows013 said:
Even things like phone calls?
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As far as I know, you can't make phone calls without a cellular connection.

jellybellys said:
As far as I know, you can't make phone calls without a cellular connection.
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Well of course. But you don't have to have a data connection for it to work. But I guess technically its all data? But if your on 1x data its not going use you internet to bring up your dialer it will be stored on your device
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letrain02 said:
Well of course. But you don't have to have a data connection for it to work. But I guess technically its all data? But if your on 1x data its not going use you internet to bring up your dialer it will be stored on your device
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This. Not particularly complicated here. dmeadows013- apps are written in HTML, but they are not loaded off the network everytime... we're looking at a concept just like webOS here. You have apps that are on the phone. They are just in web language based and rely heavily on the browser platform.

x.v_ said:
This. Not particularly complicated here. dmeadows013- apps are written in HTML, but they are not loaded off the network everytime... we're looking at a concept just like webOS here. You have apps that are on the phone. They are just in web language based and rely heavily on the browser platform.
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One main difference between webos and b2g is that the entire ui in b2g is written in HTML.

jellybellys said:
One main difference between webos and b2g is that the entire ui in b2g is written in HTML.
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Which in theory means 100% customization. Easily, and from the videos apparently on the fly. And cross platform easily. That is why the hope in nav keys is there.
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Oh man! Cool! I have been wanting to try this so bad... I hope we're able to get this working! Since a dB is working, do you need help testing stuff? Glad to help if I can... I'd really love to see a B2G / Firefox OS working on the gnex
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Why not use LMT Launcher or Button Savior in the interim instead of the softkeys? Just setup some gestures to close apps and to go back.

EvilDobe said:
Why not use LMT Launcher or Button Savior in the interim instead of the softkeys? Just setup some gestures to close apps and to go back.
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As far as I know, those won't run on b2g.

HOW TO: Increase Effective Resolution/Adjust PPI of your Note 2

Hey everybody
One of the most useful mods I have performed on my Note 2 is a PPI adjustment, which effectively increases the resolution of the screen. I'm not sure why this isn't more commonly discussed, because I think it really takes advantage of the phone's size and tablet-like qualities (especially with the new MultiView update, if that appeals to you). I know many users of the original Note did this mod, which is how I found out about it. I suspect that many other Note 2 users may not be aware of this trick...
WHAT IT DOES
It has the same effect as increasing one's monitor resolution - more content is able to be displayed on screen. If all the icons, text, menus, etc on your Note 2 just seem really BIG to you, this is the antidote.
Look at the two before and after screenshots attached. I would have posted them in line, but as a new user I am prohibited from doing so.
REQUIREMENTS
ROOTED Note 2 - there are other Howto's on XDA that cover this
ROM Toolbox Pro (other apps may work too, possibly including the free version of ROM Toolbox, but this is what I used)
HOW TO DO IT
Root your phone and install ROM Toolbox Pro. Go to the performance tab, and click "build.prop" editor. There will be two entries called "ro.sf.lcd_density"
Within each one, change the property value and the default value to 240. That's four numbers you're replacing. On the last change, go ahead and reboot. Done!
OTHER NOTES
With the original Note, it was common for this mod to break the Market. This is no longer the case. But, there are a few things that break to varying degrees. They're easy to fix though...
TouchWiz: The default launcher will not adapt to the new settings, and you will have a lot of blank space. Fix by installing another launcher. I use Nova.
The Clock app breaks completely. I replaced with Alarm Clock Plus.
The dialer, like TouchWiz, will remain small. You could replace with a custom dialer, but I actually left it as-is because a side effect is that it's really easy to use with one hand.
The Camera app has the same problem. Camera Zoom FX makes a good replacement.
the Samsung keyboard breaks, thus taking down handwriting input with it. Swype works fine, as does s-note.
Aside from those minor issues, everything has worked fine, including all the 3rd party apps I have.
Hope this is helpful to some of you guys.

Seriously, this phone is amazing at 240
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I have been using this since I first got my phone.
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This is great. One other app is the email app only takes half the screen on portrait. Really need to figure out how to install the AOSP JB Email app on here....

Another benefit is Swiftkey Tablet keyboard now does the split keyboard on landscape which is easier to type on.

The only problem is that you can't use the handwriting mode with the stylus with the ppi set to 240 because the Samsung keyboard keeps fc'ing. That's my only complaint so far with this phone is that the handwriting mode is tied to the Samsung keyboard.
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I had problems with apps saying they weren't compatible with my device... cleared data in the market app... still no dice. Any insight?
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I'm not real fond of the way the dialer looks so I'm using Go Contacts which has a pretty good dialer.
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mrush said:
I had problems with apps saying they weren't compatible with my device... cleared data in the market app... still no dice. Any insight?
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The market is probably filtering since at this resolution it is probably now considered an x-large device.
Really like this resolution, will need to use for a while to see which apps decide to crap out.

you can also edit the build.prop with root explorer. If you edit the it to be =160 it switched to tablet mode, but crashes a lot
=170 i think its still tablet and doesn't crash

firemedic624 said:
The only problem is that you can't use the handwriting mode with the stylus with the ppi set to 240 because the Samsung keyboard keeps fc'ing. That's my only complaint so far with this phone is that the handwriting mode is tied to the Samsung keyboard.
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This is true. I forgot to mention and will update the original post. Hopefully devs will fix at some point.

mhoepfin said:
The market is probably filtering since at this resolution it is probably now considered an x-large device.
Really like this resolution, will need to use for a while to see which apps decide to crap out.
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To be honest, with jelly bean letting us choose "tiny" text now and the screen size being so big, I'm not as inclined to change the Res on this thing anymore... in the past with my S2 that was the first thing i would do whenever I flashed a new rom.
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installed, set to 170, put on nova launcher, and downloaded a jellybean keyboard. so far so good, but how do I get the "hold home to bring up all running apps back" feature? It looks like Nova doesn't support this...

Dioscorus said:
installed, set to 170, put on nova launcher, and downloaded a jellybean keyboard. so far so good, but how do I get the "hold home to bring up all running apps back" feature? It looks like Nova doesn't support this...
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Hmm, which rom are you using? I have stock rooted with nova and this feature still works.

intelli78 said:
Hmm, which rom are you using? I have stock rooted with nova and this feature still works.
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I also have stock/rooted...

Fixed the dialer problem for me just got exdialer it work great and looks good too!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..

Technically the Galaxy Note II does have a higher screen res than the Galaxy S III since the Note 2 does not have a pentile display. Paranoid Android in the future will also let you completely customize the size of everything on your phone without messing up the market due to DPI issues.

weehooherod2 said:
Technically the Galaxy Note II does have a higher screen res than the Galaxy S III since the Note 2 does not have a pentile display. Paranoid Android in the future will also let you completely customize the size of everything on your phone without messing up the market due to DPI issues.
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Do you think PA will come to this phone? If so, it will be a great addition and will fit this device perfectly.
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anyone with issues sending MMS? I had taken a pic and tried to send MMS but got a unsupported file type or something like that and wont attach the picture. reverting back to 320dpi works.
hopefully the samsung keyboard will work with this in the future, it looks sooo much better with the dpi change .. specially with multi-view (although the menu and border of it doesnt stretch all the way across the screen).

bala gamer is hopefully going to take a shot at FIXING the bits that don't work right at 240dpi !! I especially hope he can fix the keyboard as I LOVE the keyboard.
for the multi window just drag the menu to the TOP OR BOTTOM edge and it displays correctly at 240dpi (the separator is not wide enough but thats not an issue)
Zoom FX is no good since it uses "smaller" images (really small) in burst mode NOT 8mp. I found that out the hard way after I shot some really nice shots and later discovered the res was so small it was useless to me

Nexus 7 native apps... How many?

Hi, Google playstore does not separate tablet apps from phone apps. How many tablet apps are there? I am afraid of buying android tablets for fear of apps that will just be scaled versions to fit on Android tablets.
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You have been brainwashed by the dark side. Apple scales apps, Android does not.
IPad Mini gives you a shrunken view of an IPad 2, because it keeps the same resolution on a smaller screen.
Android apps present a display that is appropriate for the screen size and resolution of the device.
What you are calling "phone apps" look perfectly fine on an Android tablet; correct sized icons and all.
Well coded apps will fill the display screen with appropriate information.
There are Google and Amazon tablets in stores in every city now. Go look at one and make your own decisions,
and don't just believe what you have heard from the dark side.

mrm43 said:
Hi, Google playstore does not separate tablet apps from phone apps. How many tablet apps are there? I am afraid of buying android tablets for fear of apps that will just be scaled versions to fit on Android tablets.
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There aren't as many tablet specific apps for Android as there are for the iPad. However, due to the nature of Android apps they "scale" really well. (They don't actually scale) Most well coded apps look just fine on any size screen.

I've never, ever, ever had a problem with this. That's just some nonsense gibberish put forth by the dark side in attempt to throw dirt at Android. And besides, we have widgets - most good ones will give you all the info you need before you even enter the app.

Also, Android apps adapt very well to your screen size and orientation. So if you're in portrait it will save space by not displaying a second panel, however when you flip it sideways the second panel, with more content, appears.
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Buy the tablet and when you go to play store the apps you see available will all run ok unless you see black line at top saying not compatible.
I have Sony arc and nexus7 which are using all same apps and can't see any probs with either.
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zolaisugly said:
Buy the tablet and when you go to play store the apps you see available will all run ok unless you see black line at top saying not compatible.
I have Sony arc and nexus7 which are using all same apps and can't see any probs with either.
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I'm using an Arc S for my phone & a Nexus 7 for my tablet and I've come across a a few apps that don't work on the N7, 2 are apps that I use quite often and that's the Amazon app (not the app store or kindle apps) and one is the app produced by the British Elite Ice Hockey Team that I follow, but luckily the screen size means that I can get all the info & more that was available in the Ice Hockey app via the teams own website & the leagues own website & the Amazon website is use able without needing the app. The rest are all apps that are phone/gsm/CDMA specific apps like messaging apps and the none HD Tegra version of Hockey Nations.
The Facebook & Twitter apps scale quite well to the larger screen size of the N7.
If you use Paranoid Android ROM's on your phone you can see the dynamic scaling of Android apps that let them adapt to different screen sizes by selecting Tablet mode and adjusting the screen dpi setting of apps.
Roland
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The Amazon shopping app (not the app app) is available on the Amazon app store. I use it a lot. App store app is broken on 4.2 but Amazon has promised a fix soon.
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deal breaker: no multi-window

I use multi-window a lot on my Note 3.
I thought it was an Android feature.
Apparently it's a proprietary software not an Android feature.

Ok. So what's the point? Omni will come for the find 7a and support multi windowww
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The point is to generate a healthy discussion.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're is a way to get multi-window on the find 7.
I looked up omniRom. It looks like but it'll require rooting. I don't like rooting.
I'm not trying to be contrarian.
I was literally about order the Find 7 (not 7a) but then realized I have to sacrifice multi-window.
I'm using MW right now. Reading chats in what's app & writing this.

You couldn't have read too much because you cannot order the 7 yet. They haven't even announced when you might be able to put in your pre order. The outfit making the screens has just gone into production which implies the wait will be at the least several more weeks and more likely later. They answered an email asking with an early June estimate.
As to being a deal breaker that's in your court. I won't own a phone without root myself, that is one of my deal breakers. We each make our choices...

No one asked you if it a deal breaker to you.
It's a deal breaker to people who require a multi-window feature.
Clearly we have identified oppo fanboys.
Pre-production fanboys at that lol.

I never said I was going to buy the phone and haven't made up my own mind. I find it a little disconcerting that the app storage is quite low and surprisingly it cannot be easily reformatted as I expected. Or at least previous offerings and the 7A cannot be easily repartitioned. I also am a bit surprised that they are not shipping on 4.4X since a pilot version of it would have been available to them quite a while ago. Considering the fact that they have just finished their latest skin for 4.3 you have to figure it may be a while before you see 4.4X on this phone.
As to your response I don't need to ask permission on a public forum to speak my mind and I don't care what you did or did not ask. My response was directly to the point, you have made your choice and its as valid as mine. It is as you say a deal breaker for you but you are the only person you speak for, others can speak for themselves. I also you use multi window which I will simply add if I decide to buy in here. Many will do the same meaning its not a deal breaker for them either. Course some don't use it and don't care. We all make our choices. Think before you type.

Have you tried "Multi Window - Multi Browsing" in the play store. I understand it is a partial solution only.
I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, nice (never used S-Pen ever except to try it) but wanted 4.4 so bought an Sony Xperia Ultra GPE (Now that could use multi-window). Went to a new HTC One M8 (a phone again).
I will pick up an Oppo Find 7 (not 7a) when available. Specs look great (and obviously I'm a gadget geek).
So I would say try the "Multi Window - Multi Browsing" app on the Note 3, just to kick the tires.

Thanks Rudolph.

Are you guys familiar with xposed framework? http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/xposed-modules/app-xmultiwindow-beta-1-0-2-omnis-t2641967
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Thanks j_Dutch
Hopefully it'll work well.

J_Dutch said:
Are you guys familiar with xposed framework? http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/xposed-modules/app-xmultiwindow-beta-1-0-2-omnis-t2641967
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I will definitely install exposed, and that's a great solution. (Doh). The issue with exposed is that it requires root. It is a good reason alone to root (but there are other good reasons as well).

Rudolpht said:
I will definitely install exposed, and that's a great solution. (Doh). The issue with exposed is that it requires root. It is a good reason alone to root (but there are other good reasons as well).
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People can correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are rooted the ability to deny apps root requests isn't that a security plus.
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I've got multi window running with xposed on my moto g. The screen size can't make the most of it but you can change the window sizes, swap them about etc
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Use omni. Has multi window built in.

MrColdbird said:
Use omni. Has multi window built in.
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Not on all versions, Moto G doesn't have it but you can get that version or another from closed, you choose.....
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MrColdbird said:
Use omni. Has multi window built in.
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Not yet, it's unofficial and not yet merged. I've been including it in the test builds but it won't be in nightlies.
(Why? Try using G+ when the device is in landscape... Or just do a portrait/landscape transition. Those are the two main issues that have prevented merging.)

....makes no sense to make a thread about this...

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There is sense.
I use multi window like hell on my note 3.
I won't even say once or twice a day.
I can say I use it most of the day because I use WhatsApp a lot.
So I continuously have whats app & RSS reader or the browser or youtube open at the same time.
I watch youtube while chatting. I cannot imagine having to leave youtube, go to whats app, write a reply, go back to youtuve, wait for buffering, watch 5 seconds, then go back to whats app, then back to YouTube, buffering. :silly::silly::silly:

CorruptedSanity said:
There is sense.
I use multi window like hell on my note 3.
I won't even say once or twice a day.
I can say I use it most of the day because I use WhatsApp a lot.
So I continuously have whats app & RSS reader or the browser or youtube open at the same time.
I watch youtube while chatting. I cannot imagine having to leave youtube, go to whats app, write a reply, go back to youtuve, wait for buffering, watch 5 seconds, then go back to whats app, then back to YouTube, buffering. :silly::silly::silly:
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So, just stick with your note 3 and leave us here playing with our device calmly.
We not really care about daily usage. We just play the device software.
When we getting boring with a rom, we change it to other rom. and that's it.
That is how the flasher live everyday. Never stick to one kind of features. lol :silly: