So I didn't see it anywhere on here, but I read an article on my BlinkFeed the other day about Microsoft trying to get HTC to let users pick between android and WP8 or dual booting them on the One. What do you guys think? Not gonna happen? Really cool or really dumb?
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Valinx7 said:
So I didn't see it anywhere on here, but I read an article on my BlinkFeed the other day about Microsoft trying to get HTC to let users pick between android and WP8 or dual booting them on the One. What do you guys think? Not gonna happen? Really cool or really dumb?
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Not going to happen on the one and its a stupid idea. 1) I can make my phone look like wp8 on android, cant do the opposite. 2) wp8 is inferior to android for many reasons, including theming limitations.
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Not going to happen on the one and its a stupid idea. 1) I can make my phone look like wp8 on android, cant do the opposite. 2) wp8 is inferior to android for many reasons, including theming limitations.
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Well I still use a zune so I looked at windows phones for a bit, but my decision was made because, like you say, it's about as limited as the iJail
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I like WP8, but would never use it everyday because of one thing... App ecosystem. Apple and Android have all the apps I use on a daily basis. WP isn't even close. So, until/if they can get that whole thing going, no thanks!
Also, yeah, as far as I know, the customization is non existent on WP. I'll stay with a jailbroken iPhone and my soon to be s-off'd One.
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Uggggly. Why would anyone want to run W8... but that is just my opinion. It seems that Micro$oft has approached HTC about the possibility of running W8 on their Android phones. Lets hope that HTC, even in their cash strapped state, does not fall into the same temptation that Nokia did.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...to-ask-htc-to-put-windows-on-more-phones.html
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Uggggly. Why would anyone want to run W8... but that is just my opinion. It seems that Micro$oft has approached HTC about the possibility of running W8 on their Android phones. Lets hope that HTC, even in their cash strapped state, does not fall into the same temptation that Nokia did.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...to-ask-htc-to-put-windows-on-more-phones.html
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Why care if it dual boots? Consumer win choice...
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Why care if it dual boots? Consumer win choice...
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:thumbup: kinda what I was thinking
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You won't get good comparisons about wp8 on here. They hate it as much as the iPhone. I ran the hd7 for about a year and really enjoyed it. It was nice to just use a phone without trying to change every design element just because I could. And zone with zone pass was a much nicer program to deal with than iTunes. You could drag media to your phone via your computer and it would transfer automatically when the phone was idle. I gave it up because it was late to the lte game. At this point I'm so far in with the Android ecosystem it would be tough to switch though the Nokia 1020 is sweet.
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I started on WinMo 6.5 with the Dash, Dash 3G and Touch Pro 2 and was a fan. At the time, it was the only choice that included wireless sync (contacts, calendars without plugging in! whoa!) and tethering iirc.
I tried iOS briefly on iPod touches and hated it so got on the Android bandwagon early on. I like Android but it really only works for me if I am rooted and I can heavily customize the device and running something like CM or AOKP. Or at least heavily deSensed/deTouchWiz-ed. A year ago, I tried an HTC 8x and I was surprised that I preferred it to Android. Now, I am heading back to Android because the hardware is so much nicer on something like the HTC One. Heck, even the Samsung Galaxy S4 made me jealous (after I rooted it, lowered the DPI setting and had Xposed clean up the mess of a UI it ships with).
I would love it if my HTC One allowed me to run either Android or WP8 in a dual boot fashion. Knowing me, I'd switch back and forth, probably using WP8 while travelling because it seems to have better power management and Android when I need seemingly basic stuff that WP8 still doesn't support (high speed audio playback for example!!!). I doubt that it'll happen.
If HTC does make more WP devices it'll be because MS is making it a no-lose proposition (they can use the same basic devices and MS pays them a bunch to create variants and pays for the marketing of those variants) and without dual boot support which would just be too much of a nightmare to support officially.
Technically, I am sure it's feasible to do this, even with dual boot (just look at what the HD2 has been made to do -- a WinMo 6.5 device that runs Android, even 4.3, WP7/7.5 and with dual boot support) but it'd be bonkers to support unless they end up with a virtualized setup (probably with WP playing host to Android given MS's expertise with running hypervisors, see e.g. XBox One's virtualization features. Then again, why would MS build that?!).
I'd pay good money to get the flexibility to run either OS on something like the One. WP is a more refined, fluid experience than Android. But it just isn't as feature rich. I'd like the option of running either.
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World demands justice for Galaxy Nexus owner who 'beat' Windows Phone
I knew we had a fast phone and this proves it.
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Huh?
Sent from the future.
Thread of the decade.
http://www.talkandroid.com/102027-galaxy-nexus-owner-beats-windows-phone-in-windows-phone-challenge/
I use both and eash OS has it's strengths and weaknesses. I actually prefer WP to Android except for my dirty little shame: Every Nexus I get turns into a portable torrent box. And since I don't have a computer this is my all in one. And they did a fantastic job with Android Chrome, I must admit.
But this pissing contest **** has got to stop.
Why can't people except that in some areas on different OS's will always be better. Some hardware specs will always be better. That's life. Personally? I root for a three horse race. Each OS, Android, iOS, and WP all pushing and pulling to stay ahead.
The end result? The consumer wins.
Bravo sir.. bravo
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I am a Windows developer and I don't like metro stuff at all. Guess we are going to get stuck with it but I absolutely hat eto be forced into any UI...
I LOVE MY GNEX!
Does anyone actually by Windows Phones?
I think Microsoft really dropped the ball. They were one of the few in the mobile smartphone game with their windows mobile platform. It was a true multitasking device that was capable of doing almost anything.
Then the iPhone came out and basically did less then WM phones just made things prettier. Know instead of Microsoft stepping up their game with their age looking UI they just hung back for a while.
Then came Android, which almost feels like it would have been the natural succession for Microsoft except they just waited. So all of us WM phone users started to jump over to Android. Now we are so happy there, why would we want to even try a Windows phone.
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but I absolutely hat eto be forced into any UI...
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So, how many Windows Shell replacements have you done? Because you're basically forced into the current Windows look.
I agree, I hate metro, too, but you've been 'forced into a UI' for a long time.
im going to try this, any tips to which rom to use?
"no the gsII is faster"
bmstrong said:
I use both and eash OS has it's strengths and weaknesses. I actually prefer WP to Android except for my dirty little shame: Every Nexus I get turns into a portable torrent box. And since I don't have a computer this is my all in one. And they did a fantastic job with Android Chrome, I must admit.
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you don't have a computer but multiple $500 cell phones?
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you don't have a computer but multiple $500 cell phones?
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Yep. At any given time I tend to have three or so and swap back and forth. Right now? Main EDC is a stock GN with a back up 4s. The 900 is my next and I'm considering a SGS3. If the SGS3 has TW puked onto it, that's out. I sell the 4s and move into the 5. If I find a Titan 2 cheap I may grab one to play with it. (Forgot to mention I'm still looking for a Finny.)
I love Mobiles.
I had an interesting 'battle' with a windows rep today. I beat her hands down loading a webpage. She wasn't very happy.
But she did beat me updating a Facebook status.
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You guys have been hella help. Yesterday I traded in my gs3 for a Lumina 920. You guys have been a big help. This windows is going to take some getting used to but it is very fluid and amazing. Thanks guys for all your help. I will be back to android to get the wife a nexus 4. This Lumina 920 was 450 off contract. And the nexus 350. Awesome deals!
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Why would you trade those? Lack of apps on its own is enough for majority of people to stay away from Windows phone in current state, unless factory installed apps is sufficient for you
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Maybe he just wanted to try something different. Good luck with the new phone! I was also thinking about trying it out at some point.
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A good OS isn't good because of the number of apps. If that was the case I would prefer ios over Android.
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I said I traded it in but what I meant to say was I traded it in at nest buy got 250 credit then put 20p with it
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He will be back you'll see thats a ****y OS Period been there done that...
That Lumia seems like a nice phone...but its so heavy
I had a lumia 900 (well, technically still have it) and really liked the speed and fluidity of Windows Mobile. I think it is an excellent OS. I also think that the OP will enjoy having both OS's on hand to tinker with. I have iOS, WM and Android here and they are all fun to play with in their own right. Nothing wrong with trying the latest and greatest from a competitor out. :good:
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I had a lumia 900 (well, technically still have it) and really liked the speed and fluidity of Windows Mobile. I think it is an excellent OS. I also think that the OP will enjoy having both OS's on hand to tinker with. I have iOS, WM and Android here and they are all fun to play with in their own right. Nothing wrong with trying the latest and greatest from a competitor out. :good:
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each has their own charms, i just got an S3 after weighing my options(and carrier limitations)..and am quite pleased with My S3...WP8 just didnt have what i needed, but maybe next year
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A good OS isn't good because of the number of apps. If that was the case I would prefer ios over Android.
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...has-just-as-many-apps-as-ios-report-suggests/
I just bought a 920 as well. It is a pretty impressive phone so far. It takes some getting used but the lack of apps is the shot in the foot for that os. The live tiles is great imo. I am returning it cuz it made me miss my gs3 so much! I bounce between phones all the time but the gs3 is the only android i ever really fell in love with.
Yeah I really dint miss the flashing and constant. "what doesn't or does work" daily debacle. I will say this......this Nokia must have waaaaaay better radios. Data is a beast on this phone as well as GPS locks and such. And every app i
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Good luck! I had a WP7 phone and it just wasn't enough for my needs (limited apps on the app store being one of the major factors), but I do miss the stability and fluidity of that OS... if all you're looking for is a basic smartphone, Windows phones are actually really nice... Of course, most everyone here is looking to hack or modify their phone in some way, and for that, Windows phones kinda suck.
I wanna try Windows phones again. The last one I had was an old HTC one. I'm worried that I won't like it though.
Stock ICS on my S3
One Word: Microsoft
GF Has samsung focus windows phone 7. I couldn't ever switch to it. But hopefully windows phone 8 will gain in popularity.
Good luck.
I wanted to give windows another try so I got another, after a week with this phone is boring! Marketplace sucks, limited apps, no smart dailing, can't disable SMS notifications, the list goes on and on. (Damn you android you've spoiled me!)
Over is the best designed phone I've own thus far. I've fell in love with Zune desktop, but the player on the phone is so so, needs equalizing for better sound. Maybe I'll be Lumia 920 a try.
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I like L900. My second WP after HTC Trophy. I am just surprised to know that your music needs equalizer to sound better ? I never have any issues. Smart Dialing is there, you pin the person to the start screen for quick access. The Marketplace has good amount of apps ( and good apps ). Don't know if L920 will make your experience any better if you have so many complains about the platform.
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I wanted to give windows another try so I got another, after a week with this phone is boring! Marketplace sucks, limited apps, no smart dailing, can't disable SMS notifications, the list goes on and on. (Damn you android you've spoiled me!)
Over is the best designed phone I've own thus far. I've fell in love with Zune desktop, but the player on the phone is so so, needs equalizing for better sound. Maybe I'll be Lumia 920 a try.
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I totally agree with you...
I got my Lumia 900 while my Galaxy Note was on warranty repairs and just to see what was the deal with Windows Phone 7.5 (after many years since I last used Windows Mobile Professional) and at first it was a nice experience after using Android, but after 30 minutes I consumed the whole OS and found it very boring and lacking.
Yes, I think Android got us really spoiled...
Right now I'm just waiting for WP 7.8 just to check it out (I know, I'm not expecting much either), but I know I will sell this baby really soon!
If at least we could root it and modify it like the Lumia 800, then I might keep it. But since the AT&T Lumia 900 modding scene is pretty much defunct, i don't expect things to change for the good, so Craigslist is the way to go.
Cheers!
Rayan
Man I miss my galaxy note, I switched it for S3. I hope 7.8 features are nice.
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I like L900. My second WP after HTC Trophy. I am just surprised to know that your music needs equalizer to sound better ? I never have any issues. Smart Dialing is there, you pin the person to the start screen for quick access. The Marketplace has good amount of apps ( and good apps ). Don't know if L920 will make your experience any better if you have so many complains about the platform.
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Trust me if your're a music head you will tell the difference. Im not sure if its Lumia or windows music player but its real bland with a cool interface.
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I have several years HTC Trophy (since released) [and iPhone]
And for a long time waiting for update 7.8 and the Hebrew language and some more.. (which is not a problem to add)
Only they (HTC, MS) want us to buy a new device! And it's not going to happen!!
I stayed with the iPhone without a choice..
Bummer with you MS and HTC...
Apple - the only manufacturer to make "smartphone" an oxymoron!
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Apple - the only manufacturer to make "smartphone" an oxymoron!
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u are right, but ms is the first smartphone brand that pretends his customers to being idiots if trust they actually put people first...
no more wp = no more free betatasting and marketing sampling for a big major
and yes it is so sad... i like the new lumias (620 is really good for my money) but i cannot trust ms anymore... and maybe my next smartphone would be an alcatel idol ;D
Clear that IOS boring! There is no argument about this
as znial said, The motto of MS "put people first"!!..Yeah right maybe behind...
I also considering Android OS although it mess, but customizable.
Got my HTC phone for "free" can't complaint. I like the interface, even though less selections of phones. I understand your frustration, but actually, you can use the download tool to upgrade your phone by yourself. I did so to two of my HTC WPs, both I got for "free"(traded in two Windows mobile HTC phones that I can't sell at the time for most $10 maybe?) But that's it, I don't see any further updates for the first gen phones. It's petty that one of the phone has a pretty good hardware, but went obsolete the time it get to the market. You sure are amazed of the dynamic of the "smart"phone market.
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Got my HTC phone for "free" can't complaint. I like the interface, even though less selections of phones. I understand your frustration, but actually, you can use the download tool to upgrade your phone by yourself. I did so to two of my HTC WPs, both I got for "free"(traded in two Windows mobile HTC phones that I can't sell at the time for most $10 maybe?) But that's it, I don't see any further updates for the first gen phones. It's petty that one of the phone has a pretty good hardware, but went obsolete the time it get to the market. You sure are amazed of the dynamic of the "smart"phone market.
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All I have left to do (and for others) is to throw the device in the drawer :crying: the spent money, wait for a nice developer and frustrated, To do some magic ..
Oh and one more thing: I will never buy again....^
call me silly, but you say you won't buy into WP/MS and HTC because they want you to buy a new device..
yet, in order to switch to iOS, Android, Blackberry, etc you have to buy a new device..
call me silly but why not just buy into WP if you prefer it over the competition?
though, I do admit, MS boned us "beta testers" with WP7.
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call me silly, but you say you won't buy into WP/MS and HTC because they want you to buy a new device..
yet, in order to switch to iOS, Android, Blackberry, etc you have to buy a new device..
call me silly but why not just buy into WP if you prefer it over the competition?
though, I do admit, MS boned us "beta testers" with WP7.
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This principle of frustration...
I think most of the WP7 users were frustrated by MS, especially the guys with later hardware like HTC Titan II, which is a nice phone. But OS wise, the WP system is nice. I may soon go and buy an Andoid, but if there's a choice, I'd rather stay with WP for known performance/problems. Just lazy to switch OS, which means a lot changes.
I love my HTC Titan.
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I love my HTC Titan.
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Glad you like your Titan Dragonide. Just a question for you- how do you find the 3g reception? I too have a Titan with the Dynamics rom, but if I use any type of case the reception is very poor. I always use a case with my phones, but I can't with the Titan. Do you use a case? How do you rate the reception on 3g? I have no probs with wi fi reception as some seem to have. Thanks.
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Glad you like your Titan Dragonide. Just a question for you- how do you find the 3g reception? I too have a Titan with the Dynamics rom, but if I use any type of case the reception is very poor. I always use a case with my phones, but I can't with the Titan. Do you use a case? How do you rate the reception on 3g? I have no probs with wi fi reception as some seem to have. Thanks.
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Mine is an european Titan, just to be clear.
Titan rules
No, I don't have problems with the 3g reception.
I would rate my reception 4/5 ... just like the image
I am using the 17.5006.08.27_17.08.50.06U radio software.
Guess it could all depend on the network. Thanks for your reply.
People should remember that HTC has the easiest policy (to be bypassed) for all the chef in this forum, lol.
Just look at how tight Nokia lock their sh!t and how little support others phone from others OEM get from this forum (WP devices)...
Take your time, do your homework, i was and still be HTC homeboy, even though i am making sh!tty app and develop it on the 920, lol.
Lol I have a HTC titan waited for the wp7.8 update so much lol but it is almost nothing lol just the change in tiles in the home screen lol love my nexus 4 and MMX canvas 2 both are android
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Lol I have a HTC titan waited for the wp7.8 update so much lol but it is almost nothing lol just the change in tiles in the home screen lol love my nexus 4 and MMX canvas 2 both are android
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I don't like crappoid
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I don't like crappoid
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I like htc titan too wp too it is great can we transfer files using WiFi or Bluetooth
And I too have the 3G signal reception problem always switching between 3G and 2G
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Yes I'm done with HTC Windows Phones/ Windows Phones all together as well.
I just want to have a phone that my friends have, you know, have the apps everyone else can get... When I go to a movie theater and see an ad for an app, why is it never on Windows Phone... Why is my University's app not on Windows Phone.. Dishnetwork???
It's good that Nokia is at least trying to fix this, HTC just doesn't care.
Now iPhone or Android is the question. Sorry MSFT. Oh by the way you also f'd up Windows Live Messenger with that Skype merger crap.
closing this thread in before the flame
hello guys i have a Sony Xperia acro S but i have sold it, so i dont have it lol.
im interested in apple products because of its price when i want to sell it, i can still get high price, when i sell my acro S the price falls very fast,
the question is should i get Iphone 4s? im also interested in Windows Phone 8 because Microsoft is amazing.
and one more last thing, i will not buy android phone since i had it already but not satisfied
Trust me windows phone is bull****. And Apple is dependable. What you want from phone? I mean if I have a iPhone I can't modify as much as I need because it is close source so I won't go for iPhone. It depend on what you want.
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This isn't the right place to ask. Go to the Device sujection thread.
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Trust me windows phone is bull****. And Apple is dependable. What you want from phone? I mean if I have a iPhone I can't modify as much as I need because it is close source so I won't go for iPhone. It depend on what you want.
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i love to modify but i dont have the courage to take the risk, for example
HARD BRICK
the simplest way to think of mobile devices any more is:
Android is Windows
IOS is normal Apple
Windows Phone is Microsoft trying to copy Apple
Blackberry is...in trouble
While there are more 'open' offerings than Android, they haven't really received enough support yet to be a considered platform for anyone but developers.
Android gives by far the most options in terms of the hardware that runs it...think of it like the PC market
Apple keeps a closed approach on EVERYTHING, but for millions of people...that isn't a problem. The double edged sword is that you get only a handful of proprietary devices that run the software...That nature makes the hardware expensive for what you get...the phones are decently powerful, but you pay a lot more than you would for a similarly spec'd android device...
on the other hand though, you get working software...when you're supposed to...Apple pushes it out annually at a given date, and you get it without waiting...no Apple announces it, then your phone maker wants to f with it...then your carrier wants to f with it...and you wait 8 months for a software update...its scheduled, it happens, it works, and its over...
I don't have a whole lot of experience with windows phone yet, but its building momentum and doesn't seem all that bad...weirdly though, its a very very different business model than their Windows stance.
For me. I'll go with HTC One or if you want a feature packed phone buy the S4. Or simplicity, iPhone 5. Never go with a Windows phone or a BB device.
If you want a phone that won't drop down in the marker after a couple years get an s4 or an hug one
I would never resort to iPhone cause it's closed sourced
And windows phone does not have enough apps
Blackbery 10 is an interesting os but it doesn't have enough apps
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thanks for your opinion guys